JagFan 165 Posted July 21 I heard this afternoon on SXM that CMC is battling tendinitis in his Achilles again…same as last year this time. Not finding any corroborating info online. You all hearing anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 732 Posted July 21 Haven't heard anything but positive vibes around McCaffrey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 165 Posted July 22 2 hours ago, Mike FF Today said: Haven't heard anything but positive vibes around McCaffrey. Thanks Mike. It was Jeff Ratcliffe talking about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 756 Posted July 22 18 hours ago, JagFan said: Thanks Mike. It was Jeff Ratcliffe talking about it. I remember reading something of this too. I got no link. dont remember where I read it. I couldnt even tell you if it was a reputable source. it was on my list of things to research as draft day approached. I'm drafting late in nearly all my keeper leagues so even if hes left unprotected its unlikely he would fall to me. so for that reason I didn't really follow up on this report to see if there is any merit to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaChup 233 Posted July 23 McCaffrey's Mom says McCaffrey is her favorite player and she would draft him #1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 756 Posted July 23 16 hours ago, LaChup said: McCaffrey's Mom says McCaffrey is her favorite player and she would draft him #1. is your nickname 'Master of the obvious'??? just curious..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,685 Posted July 23 CMC and DND are only 1 letter apart 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 165 Posted July 24 22 hours ago, kutulu said: CMC and DND are only 1 letter apart Ok, that’s pretty dang funny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,786 Posted July 30 he's the ultimate league winner, league loser pick right now. If he is 80% of prime CMC, getting him near the end of round 1, start of round 2 is robbery. If the issues crop up, you'll be in a tremendous hole considering the other really good options available in that area. He's going too low for his upside but too high for his risk. The risk alone should have him probably going after JT, Kyren and such. Of course if you go the CMC route, you can do you best to ensure you draft Guerrendo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 756 Posted July 30 2 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: he's the ultimate league winner, league loser pick right now. If he is 80% of prime CMC, getting him near the end of round 1, start of round 2 is robbery. If the issues crop up, you'll be in a tremendous hole considering the other really good options available in that area. He's going too low for his upside but too high for his risk. The risk alone should have him probably going after JT, Kyren and such. Of course if you go the CMC route, you can do you best to ensure you draft Guerrendo. 100%. if you're a gambler, this is the ultimate fantasy football bet. but I'd say if there is a player out there that gives you a 30% chance to win the championship. most people will roll the dice. Normally I'd give him 50-60%% but there are reports hes nursing some sort of injury. These health issues lingering dont bode well for a player who already has a bit of a bad injury history. so I'm dropping that to 30% I am fully willing to revise if a report comes out confirming he is fully healthy. but I think this is where he is at. given risks, he should be a 2nd round pick but He likely goes late in round 1 to someone who maybe doesnt place a lot of weight on injury risk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,215 Posted July 30 My 14 team non ppr, I have Barkley #1 CMC #2. Not just my rb rankings , but overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,786 Posted July 30 8 minutes ago, weepaws said: My 14 team non ppr, I have Barkley #1 CMC #2. Not just my rb rankings , but overall. doesn't seem prudent. while CMC could lead even standard scoring leagues in ppg, so much of his value is as a receiver... plus there are backs who can easily produce as much or more than him who don't have his wear and tear (Bijan, Gibbs) By all means if you pick 2nd and Barkely is gone, pick CMC. He might win you your league.... Just seems like a weird risk when there are younger, fresher, just as productive options available. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,215 Posted July 30 I have Gibbs third, and Robinson fourth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,032 Posted Tuesday at 09:05 PM Bijan Gibbs Barkley Jeanty Henry J. Taylor Achane Hampton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 756 Posted Wednesday at 03:28 PM On 7/30/2025 at 2:44 PM, WhiteWonder said: doesn't seem prudent. while CMC could lead even standard scoring leagues in ppg, so much of his value is as a receiver... plus there are backs who can easily produce as much or more than him who don't have his wear and tear (Bijan, Gibbs) By all means if you pick 2nd and Barkely is gone, pick CMC. He might win you your league.... Just seems like a weird risk when there are younger, fresher, just as productive options available. he might. but he might lose your league too. if picking on the end of round 1 thats where I'd consider taking him. Hes probably gone by that point but I suspect in some formats he will still be on the board at that point. most likely in standard leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,786 Posted Wednesday at 03:40 PM 8 minutes ago, Ray_T said: he might. but he might lose your league too. if picking on the end of round 1 thats where I'd consider taking him. Hes probably gone by that point but I suspect in some formats he will still be on the board at that point. most likely in standard leagues. Yes I agree. The guy is saying CMC is his #2. That's a big leap of faith (no pun intended)... I guess the only thing i'll say is if you're drafting 2nd and CMC is the top guy on your personal projections, you won't be getting him in round 2 so you gotta do what you gotta do. There is a little bit of FF where people blindly follow ADP to a fault. Now if ADP says you can get a guy 3 rounds later, then you should hold off. But if ADP says a guy is 8-10 picks later, you have to get your player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,699 Posted Wednesday at 06:48 PM On 7/30/2025 at 10:05 AM, WhiteWonder said: he's the ultimate league winner, league loser pick right now. If he is 80% of prime CMC, getting him near the end of round 1, start of round 2 is robbery. If the issues crop up, you'll be in a tremendous hole considering the other really good options available in that area. He's going too low for his upside but too high for his risk. The risk alone should have him probably going after JT, Kyren and such. Of course if you go the CMC route, you can do you best to ensure you draft Guerrendo. You could easily get guerrendo, so he shouldn't be a league loser. You could also get my favorite rookie sleeper Corey Kiner, but mum's the word on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 756 Posted Wednesday at 06:51 PM 3 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: Yes I agree. The guy is saying CMC is his #2. That's a big leap of faith (no pun intended)... I guess the only thing i'll say is if you're drafting 2nd and CMC is the top guy on your personal projections, you won't be getting him in round 2 so you gotta do what you gotta do. There is a little bit of FF where people blindly follow ADP to a fault. Now if ADP says you can get a guy 3 rounds later, then you should hold off. But if ADP says a guy is 8-10 picks later, you have to get your player. totally. I never follow ADP to the letter. I have my own rankings that I work on myself. I use ADP as a general guideline in terms of when I expect a player to go (plus or minus a few picks) so when I look at my top 3 or 4 players on the board and if one looks like there is a chance he slides to my next pick that player gets left. and if he does slide to the next pick I get a steal. so ADP is useful that way because sometimes at certain points in the draft you can get both of the players you are wanting if things fall the right way. so In my rankings I have one column for where I rank the player. one for their most up to date ADP. then when I find out what draft slot I'm picking out of, I highlight the players I mostly expect to be on the board for each pick. on occasion (usually in the mid or later rounds) a player ranked higher will fall significantly. if it looks too good to be true, If I have my computer handy I do a quick double check to see if there is a reason. but usually those end up being good picks too. either way, no draft list is perfect. mine isnt, yours isnt, and neither is the draft list provided by any website you can think of. I do use the fftoday rankings because I usually dont have to do too many modifications to it. I have found their rankings to usually be reasonably close to my own. That way when I modify the rankings to suit my own needs I dont have a ton of work to do on it. but that is my own preference. in theory any ranking by any online website will do. and its better to pick a site whose opinions on players is similar to your own so you dont have to do too many modifications to the rankings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,215 Posted Wednesday at 07:40 PM I do have my Rbs ranked 1. Barkley, 2 Mccaffery , right now he’s been going 8th pick and earlier, in my 14 team non ppr league I don’t know when I will draft for another week, but the top eight slots have been selected by the first 10 people that picked. So it doesn’t look good for me, but if I had the#2 pick and Barkley went first, I would take Mccaffery. This is my favorite time of the year for ff, getting prepared for my two drafts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 256 Posted Wednesday at 08:56 PM 5 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: I guess the only thing i'll say is if you're drafting 2nd and CMC is the top guy on your personal projections, you won't be getting him in round 2 so you gotta do what you gotta do. There is a little bit of FF where people blindly follow ADP to a fault. Now if ADP says you can get a guy 3 rounds later, then you should hold off. But if ADP says a guy is 8-10 picks later, you have to get your player. Sometimes you shouldn't blindly follow your personal projections either. While CMC certainly has a reasonable shot at being the #1RB, the age and durability risk is what has driven his ADP down to the bottom half of the first round. Why take on that risk at #2? Trade down if that's allowed, otherwise taking him at #2 just allows someone else to get better value in the bottom half of round 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 165 Posted Wednesday at 10:41 PM 1 hour ago, Showboat said: Sometimes you shouldn't blindly follow your personal projections either. While CMC certainly has a reasonable shot at being the #1RB, the age and durability risk is what has driven his ADP down to the bottom half of the first round. Why take on that risk at #2? Trade down if that's allowed, otherwise taking him at #2 just allows someone else to get better value in the bottom half of round 1. This is the age old debate every year about some player. There’s always an elite talent with red flags. The sad truth is that any player risks injury every time they step on the field. Last year the debate was CMC, hence this debate, and D Henry because of his age and wear. Sometimes the risk pays off like Henry, and sometimes risk was really worse than anyone knew like CMC. I agree CMC is risky that high, but he could outperform even the #2 pick. You really just have to go with your gut feeling, and if that’s taking CMC 5-6 spots higher than his ADP I wouldn’t criticize it. Some could argue that pushing CMC down to the back half of round 1 IS letting someone get a stud that late. I tend to lean RB over WR and I can tell you the only WR I’d consider over him is Chase. Chase isn’t going to reproduce last years numbers. Having him at #1 is chasing last years numbers, and that’s never a good idea. I personally have them ranked as Bijan, Gibbs, Saquan, CMC, Chase as my top 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,786 Posted Wednesday at 11:41 PM 2 hours ago, Showboat said: Sometimes you shouldn't blindly follow your personal projections either. While CMC certainly has a reasonable shot at being the #1RB, the age and durability risk is what has driven his ADP down to the bottom half of the first round. Why take on that risk at #2? Trade down if that's allowed, otherwise taking him at #2 just allows someone else to get better value in the bottom half of round 1. Umm. Yeah that was pretty much the point of my post and if you read my previous response about CMC second overall I think you’d have a better understanding. I was not agreeing with picking him there, just musing that sometimes holding tight to adp means you will miss out on a player you’re very high on. If we marry ourselves to “value” based on adp we might as well just go on auto draft. of course if there is an opportunity to trade down and get something in return, that’s great. But if it’s not really an option and you truly value a 10-14 adp player as the best on your board, go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,786 Posted Wednesday at 11:46 PM 1 hour ago, JagFan said: This is the age old debate every year about some player. There’s always an elite talent with red flags. The sad truth is that any player risks injury every time they step on the field. Last year the debate was CMC, hence this debate, and D Henry because of his age and wear. Sometimes the risk pays off like Henry, and sometimes risk was really worse than anyone knew like CMC. I agree CMC is risky that high, but he could outperform even the #2 pick. You really just have to go with your gut feeling, and if that’s taking CMC 5-6 spots higher than his ADP I wouldn’t criticize it. Some could argue that pushing CMC down to the back half of round 1 IS letting someone get a stud that late. I tend to lean RB over WR and I can tell you the only WR I’d consider over him is Chase. Chase isn’t going to reproduce last years numbers. Having him at #1 is chasing last years numbers, and that’s never a good idea. I personally have them ranked as Bijan, Gibbs, Saquan, CMC, Chase as my top 5. In PPR I’m probably taking Bijan, Gibbs, Barkley, Chase, Lamb and JJ before I’m considering CMC. St Brown possibly as well. but cmc is someone to really watch closely because if he is healthy, with the losses of Deebo and Aiyuk for at least a bit of time, CMC could be an absolute beast in ppr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 756 Posted yesterday at 12:52 AM 1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said: In PPR I’m probably taking Bijan, Gibbs, Barkley, Chase, Lamb and JJ before I’m considering CMC. St Brown possibly as well. but cmc is someone to really watch closely because if he is healthy, with the losses of Deebo and Aiyuk for at least a bit of time, CMC could be an absolute beast in ppr. true. I think the big red flag is there has been some reports that he is dinged up already. Not sure how good the source is. but if considering him, this is something I would want to research thoroughly. this is the type of player where doing your research can give you a better idea of whether hes worth the risk. Personally I find the risks with him to be too high to consider taking him in the early part of round 1. once we get past pick 8 or 9 hes a guy you at least want to think about.... but I likely dont take him unless I'm drafting at(or near) the turn and hes still on the board. Thats where I value the guy. That likely means hes not gonna be on any of my teams this year and if that is the case, I'm ok with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 165 Posted yesterday at 03:33 AM Shout out to the Jets fans pimping B Hall as the #2 pick last year based off of 2 outlier games in 23! The AARON writing was all over the wall of that disaster in the making this time last year. It’s going to be what it’s going to be, and CMC will define the fate of many teams this year. Be it from the 2 spot, or the 12 spot. It’s officially FF season. Let’s go!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,215 Posted 14 hours ago I remember going into last seasons draft, I was saying how great J Jacobs was going to be, is ADP was really good, many disagreed, he was better than I thought. I use my own rankings for a reason, more reliable than using the ADP. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 998 Posted 9 hours ago Without ever looking at adp... I would've guessed CMC's adp be about mid-3rd rd. Shows what I know. Clearly I'm not the gambler. He could fall to the 4th rd and honestly I wouldn't draft him. It's not just the injury risk... does he even still have the juice that once made him great coming off that injury and given his age? Maybe, but nobody knows. That's a two-fer risky. Not interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the spanker 28 Posted 8 hours ago 21 hours ago, Ray_T said: true. I think the big red flag is there has been some reports that he is dinged up already. Not sure how good the source is. but if considering him, this is something I would want to research thoroughly. this is the type of player where doing your research can give you a better idea of whether hes worth the risk. Personally I find the risks with him to be too high to consider taking him in the early part of round 1. once we get past pick 8 or 9 hes a guy you at least want to think about.... but I likely dont take him unless I'm drafting at(or near) the turn and hes still on the board. Thats where I value the guy. That likely means hes not gonna be on any of my teams this year and if that is the case, I'm ok with that. Curious to know your reference stating he's already dinged up? I don't see that anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites