NFL Next Coach Fired Odds

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Just now, MikeMatt said:

Yes. They (players and media) love him. He’s not going anywhere in year one. 

Even if they go 0 and 16, they can take Arch at #1 

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36 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Can Aaron Glenn survive New York if the Jets suck big ass?  

They went with Justin Fields at QB and weren't good last year.  Not sure what people want.  Takes time, need more than 1 offseason to get your guys and change stuff.   

If anyone should know this it should br Lions fans.  Campbell went 3-13-1 his first year as HC in Detroit.   Maybe they should have jumped the gun and canned him.

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Players and whoever liking him aside.  It matters but just put that to the side.  

What sort of stable franchise goes out and plucks a hot coordinator to change the culture of a loser franchise and says halfway in, "well ya know this didnt work, lets try it again"?   Not saying the Jets are stable, but what mentality is that?  What exactly were expectations?  Its 3 games.  Survive?  Its year 1 of trying to change the Jets.  What magic fairy dust do people think coaches have?

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Players and whoever liking him aside.  It matters but just put that to the side.  

What sort of stable franchise goes out and plucks a hot coordinator to change the culture of a loser franchise and says halfway in, "well ya know this didnt work, lets try it again"?   Not saying the Jets are stable, but what mentality is that?  What exactly were expectations?  Its 3 games.  Survive?  Its year 1 of trying to change the Jets.  What magic fairy dust do people think coaches have?

I agree 100%.   Gotta give him more time.  And if the media and players like him, then yeah he's probably OK.   But the NY Media is brutal.  But listening to you guys, sounds like hes gonna stick around

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3 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I agree 100%.   Gotta give him more time.  And if the media and players like him, then yeah he's probably OK.   But the NY Media is brutal.  But listening to you guys, sounds like hes gonna stick around

The NY media being brutal is completely overblown.  Nobody reads the papers anymore and all of the sports talk outlets have relationships with the teams.  The days of Dicck Young are over. 

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10 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I agree 100%.   Gotta give him more time.  And if the media and players like him, then yeah he's probably OK.   But the NY Media is brutal.  But listening to you guys, sounds like hes gonna stick around

He will.  If he doesnt, then it is just another example of terrible franchises being sporadic with zero direction.  

Sure the defense is not playing very well.  But they narrowly lost to Pitt.  They then lost to possibly thr best team in the league.  Then lost by 2 at Tampa, a good team.  This with Fields as your starter and the backup having to start by 3rd game.   Most people would have expected an 0-3 start with that schedule, unless they pulled out a Pitt week 1 win.  Pitt isnt great but they are a .500 type team.  A better squad than the Jets.  

I get how their defense has performed is a reflection on him.  But its a process.  He needs to gather his type guys and the guys in place are learning a whole new system.  Letting Rodgers have that stat line isnt a good look.  But then they play Bills, reigning MVP Allen, a top 3ish team for the last several years.  Then Baker whos offenses have hummed and are considered a top idk 10 team in the league at least.  No person on earth expected thrm to be better than 1-2 right now.  And most would have picked against them in each game predicting an 0-3 start.  

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8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The NY media being brutal is completely overblown.  Nobody reads the papers anymore and all of the sports talk outlets have relationships with the teams.  The days of Dicck Young are over. 

Ok...That's just what I heard.   So if that's not the case anymore, then there's that

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4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

He will.  If he doesnt, then it is just another example of terrible franchises being sporadic with zero direction.  

Sure the defense is not playing very well.  But they narrowly lost to Pitt.  They then lost to possibly thr best team in the league.  Then lost by 2 at Tampa, a good team.  This with Fields as your starter and the backup having to start by 3rd game.   Most people would have expected an 0-3 start with that schedule, unless they pulled out a Pitt week 1 win.  Pitt isnt great but they are a .500 type team.  A better squad than the Jets.  

I get how their defense has performed is a reflection on him.  But its a process.  He needs to gather his type guys and the guys in place are learning a whole new system.  Letting Rodgers have that stat line isnt a good look.  But then they play Bills, reigning MVP Allen, a top 3ish team for the last several years.  Then Baker whos offenses have hummed and are considered a top idk 10 team in the league at least.  No person on earth expected thrm to be better than 1-2 right now.  And most would have picked against them in each game predicting an 0-3 start.  

But if they go 1-10 or something.   You will feel the same?

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9 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

He will.  If he doesnt, then it is just another example of terrible franchises being sporadic with zero direction.  

Patriots fired Mayo after one season. After 3 games he was 1 and 2 and the team had 1 turnover and 13 penalties.

With Vrabel the team is 1 and 2 with 6 turnovers and 27 penalties

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Just now, supermike80 said:

But if they go 1-10 or something.   You will feel the same?

Whats the difference between 1-10 or 3-8?  A better draft pick?  Sign me up for the 1-10 at that point.  

Most people had the Jets as the 4th best team in their division this season.  

You spend an offseason, do research, scout, settle on a direction and pick Glenn.  Then after less than 1 season you bail?  That would basically say that the people in charge of decisions have no clue what they are doing and it took less than a year to believe they are wrong.  You have to do your homework, decide what is best, and do it.   Zero confidence in doing their job.  Thr Bills took super raw Josh Allen from Wyoming before Josh Rosen and many people said "wrong josh".  Josh was thrust into a non talented offense.  Wasnt very good.  Should they have said welp, we made a mistake, lets not let anything play out and move quicker rather than wait too long to admit our mistake?  I get players vs coaches are different, but its really not all that different.   

Like I said earlier, Dan Campbell went 3-13-1 his first season.  

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3 minutes ago, edjr said:

Patriots fired Mayo after one season. After 3 games he was 1 and 2 and the team had 1 turnover and 13 penalties.

With Vrabel the team is 1 and 2 with 6 turnovers and 27 penalties

Mayo did seem not up to the task and was basically grandfathered into that job.  Yea there is one that may have worked out.  But franchises cant live like that.  There are exceptions, like if the coach looks totally ij over their head and is unorganized, and drives everyone to hate him quick.  Or Urban Meyer situation.  

There are exceptions.  But you cant do your homework, feel youve picked then best guy you could, then can them that quick.  If Jets fired Glenn, how attractive is thay job?  That only drives away interest in that job.  So now you go get some other coordinator and what if he starts 2-8 next season?  Can him too?  Keep canning guys until you find someone who can start 6-4 with Justin Fields at QB?  Its bizarre to me.  But there are always exceptions, much of which stems from things people like us cant see from outside the building.  

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7 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Whats the difference between 1-10 or 3-8?  A better draft pick?  Sign me up for the 1-10 at that point.  

Most people had the Jets as the 4th best team in their division this season.  

You spend an offseason, do research, scout, settle on a direction and pick Glenn.  Then after less than 1 season you bail?  That would basically say that the people in charge of decisions have no clue what they are doing and it took less than a year to believe they are wrong.  You have to do your homework, decide what is best, and do it.   Zero confidence in doing their job.  Thr Bills took super raw Josh Allen from Wyoming before Josh Rosen and many people said "wrong josh".  Josh was thrust into a non talented offense.  Wasnt very good.  Should they have said welp, we made a mistake, lets not let anything play out and move quicker rather than wait too long to admit our mistake?  I get players vs coaches are different, but its really not all that different.   

Like I said earlier, Dan Campbell went 3-13-1 his first season.  

Yes...But, and I am not doing research here but pretty sure I am right, there have been coaches fired after once season a few times in the NFL.

The Lions are a bad example anyway.  yes, Campbell is showing he's a pretty good coach.  But the Lions tend to hang on to coaches, GM's etc way way too long in their history

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Bad teams hire coaches that then get to coach bad rosters.  It takes more than 1 season to go from not talented at all, to a good roster.  Bill Walsh isnt coaching some of these rosters to the playoffs in year 1.  

On paper I dont think the Jets are a rock bottom roster.  But its a loser franchise.  It takes at least some time to get it going other direction.  

Jets have 2 narrow losses out of 3 with a schedule that reads like probably 0-3.  Theyve had Justin focking Fields and Tyrod at QB.  I know I know, Fields is everyones favorite QB. Hes amazing and all that.  

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Just now, supermike80 said:

Yes...But, and I am not doing research here but pretty sure I am right, there have been coaches fired after once season a few times in the NFL.

The Lions are a bad example anyway.  yes, Campbell is showing he's a pretty good coach.  But the Lions tend to hang on to coaches, GM's etc way way too long in their history

Oh there has been.  Id wager that most are loser franchises that annually suck.  

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26 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Ok...That's just what I heard.   So if that's not the case anymore, then there's that

It used to be.  Everyone is friends now. They keep blaming the Giants issues on the coaches and gm’s instead of the guys hiring them. Do you know there are two Mara’s that “work” for the GM? Yup. Three of the owners work in the front office. And Steinbrenner said Cashman is like family. Tough NY press my ass. 

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Kyle Shannahan went 6-10 thrn 4-12 his first 2 years in SF.  They should have canned him.  I know hes not perfect, but hell whats many playoff appearances, nfc championship games, SB appearances.  Maybe if they would have canned him and started over quick with Joe Blow, theyd have 3 SB rings by now.  Nevermind he has an offense that is almost QB proof.   Nevermind he made Mr Irrelevant into a rich man in a couple years.  

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It used to be.  Everyone is friends now. They keep blaming the Giants issues on the coaches and gm’s instead of the guys hiring them. Do you know there are two Mara’s that “work” for the GM? Yup. Three of the owners work in the front office. And Steinbrenner said Cashman is like family. Tough NY press my ass. 

I appreciate info from someone actually in the know.  

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On 9/8/2025 at 11:03 AM, edjr said:

Brian Callahan +1600

And we’re off and running 

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12 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

And we’re off and running 

Jonathan Gannon has shot up to +800, losing in historically bad fashion to the team that just fired their coach.

And the Cards have a full blown QB controversy.  Well, nobody thinks Brissett is the long term answer, but it's clear (yet again) that Kyler Murray is NOT the answer.

Any decent QBs in the 2026 draft?   

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47 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Any decent QBs in the 2026 draft?

Not really. 2027 is projected to be a huge QB draft.