What's with all the conservatives cancelling people?

[Mark Davis 417]

16 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

This here post is important and, at least for me sums all of this up. In a strange way Gutterboy is right. The First Amendment is a cornerstone to our beliefs.  If, big If, the United States government pressured ABC to take Jimmy Kimmel off the air for lying, I have a problem with it as well.
 

I can also walk and chew gum at the same time. The incredible gall to all the sudden be free speech absolutist when over the past 15 years anyone who questioned….damn near anything you disagreed with was canceled.  Half of the things deemed “misinformation” turned out true. You cheered, you mocked, had zero problem with so called “cancel culture”.  Now just one lowly night show host loses a job and yall show your azz.  Not a life but a show.  Jimmy Kimmel is free to say whatever he wants. Charlie Kirk is dead, with two little kids wondering why.  Go fock yourselves. 

Yep.  Honestly I think Kimmel was on his way out anyway.  If he was making them a lot of money, this wouldn't have happened.  We don't know, but based on ratings, contracts they'd have to pay, his show was likely losing money and this gave them an excuse to end it. 

However, the FCC should stay out of it.  While I don't agree with Kimmel, I don't like even the perception that the government is involved.  If you believe in your position, you gain more from someone like Kimmel spouting off the short side of a 20/80 issue than you ever do by removing him.  Let him speak, same for Ilhan Omar.  I feel like the more they speak, the better it is for people who believe as I do.  If you believe your position is right, open discussion about it should only strengthen it.

[Ron_Artest 1,904]

8 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

This here post is important and, at least for me sums all of this up. In a strange way Gutterboy is right. The First Amendment is a cornerstone to our beliefs.  If, big If, the United States government pressured ABC to take Jimmy Kimmel off the air for lying, I have a problem with it as well.
 

I can also walk and chew gum at the same time. The incredible gall to all the sudden be free speech absolutist when over the past 15 years anyone who questioned….damn near anything you disagreed with was canceled.  Half of the things deemed “misinformation” turned out true. You cheered, you mocked, had zero problem with so called “cancel culture”.  Now just one lowly night show host loses a job and yall show your azz.  Not a life but a show.  Jimmy Kimmel is free to say whatever he wants. Charlie Kirk is dead, with two little kids wondering why.  Go fock yourselves. 

Appreciate your attempt at discourse.  Probably the best way you can honor Kirk.

Let me point out a few things...

1) There is no "if".  Kimmel was fired after Brendan Carr said he will take action if he's not.  "Easy way or hard way".  Disney chose the easy way.  To follow up, Trump celebrated, said more is coming, and said it should be illegal to talk negative about him.  The US govt is pressuring the media to remove speech they don't like. 100%

2) it's not about Kimmel.  I don't think many people actually watch Kimmel.  He's just the latest.  Universities, law firms, tech, media, trump is assaulting the first amendment all over this country and it's getting worse.  We need to take a stand.

3) The "left" did not kill Kirk, a crazy murderer did.  When you blame half the country for the actions of one lunatic you've lost, especially when 99% of those people object to his murder.

4) I am against cancel culture, always have been.  Cancel culture is not a "left" thing.  Bud light, tractor supply, target, both sides.  It's all silly IMO, but it's still not unconstitutional.

Would be interested in continuing a healthy debate if you're interested.  Can provide sources for most of what I've said.

[Ron_Artest 1,904]

8 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

Yep.  Honestly I think Kimmel was on his way out anyway.  If he was making them a lot of money, this wouldn't have happened.  We don't know, but based on ratings, contracts they'd have to pay, his show was likely losing money and this gave them an excuse to end it. 

However, the FCC should stay out of it.  While I don't agree with Kimmel, I don't like even the perception that the government is involved.  If you believe in your position, you gain more from someone like Kimmel spouting off the short side of a 20/80 issue than you ever do by removing him.  Let him speak, same for Ilhan Omar.  I feel like the more they speak, the better it is for people who believe as I do.  If you believe your position is right, open discussion about it should only strengthen it.

In the end it's all about money.  It's better for Disney financially to avoid legal fees and to remain on the good side of the govt for future revenue prospects. This is why most entities have bowed to trump.

Disney got into a battle with the govt in Florida.  It's didn't end well. They used to be principled.  Now they just do whatever is in the best interest of the shareholder.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,758]

37 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Appreciate your attempt at discourse.  Probably the best way you can honor Kirk.

Let me point out a few things...

1) There is no "if".  Kimmel was fired after Brendan Carr said he will take action if he's not.  "Easy way or hard way".  Disney chose the easy way.  To follow up, Trump celebrated, said more is coming, and said it should be illegal to talk negative about him.  The US govt is pressuring the media to remove speech they don't like. 100%

2) it's not about Kimmel.  I don't think many people actually watch Kimmel.  He's just the latest.  Universities, law firms, tech, media, trump is assaulting the first amendment all over this country and it's getting worse.  We need to take a stand.

3) The "left" did not kill Kirk, a crazy murderer did.  When you blame half the country for the actions of one lunatic you've lost, especially when 99% of those people object to his murder.

4) I am against cancel culture, always have been.  Cancel culture is not a "left" thing.  Bud light, tractor supply, target, both sides.  It's all silly IMO, but it's still not unconstitutional.

Would be interested in continuing a healthy debate if you're interested.  Can provide sources for most of what I've said.

You’re back on your meds! Keep it up! 

[Ron_Artest 1,904]

Trump is saying that they could use Rico charges against protesters. Guys, This is a full-on assault against freedom of speech. You need to recognize this.

[Ron_Artest 1,904]

 

Those four women saying very bad words inflicted terror on the president

[Dizkneelande 1,136]

11 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

Yep.  Honestly I think Kimmel was on his way out anyway.  If he was making them a lot of money, this wouldn't have happened.  We don't know, but based on ratings, contracts they'd have to pay, his show was likely losing money and this gave them an excuse to end it. 

However, the FCC should stay out of it.  While I don't agree with Kimmel, I don't like even the perception that the government is involved.  If you believe in your position, you gain more from someone like Kimmel spouting off the short side of a 20/80 issue than you ever do by removing him.  Let him speak, same for Ilhan Omar.  I feel like the more they speak, the better it is for people who believe as I do.  If you believe your position is right, open discussion about it should only strengthen it.

I like you and think you are one of the better posters here. Me, I’m a total a-hole and don’t want to give an inch to these people. FCC rules in general require that local stations must broadcast in the public interest. Broadcasters do not have the full first amendment rights the rest of us have. 

Federal Communications Commission v. Pacifica Foundation, 438 U.S. 726 (1978), was a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court that upheld the ability of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to regulate indecent content sent over the broadcast airwaves.

Because of the pervasive nature of broadcasting, it has less First Amendment protection than other forms of communication. The F.C.C. was justified in concluding that Carlin's "Filthy Words" broadcast, though not obscene, was indecent, and subject to restriction.

I am perfectly fine with the FCC applying pressure to broadcasters that are wholly partisan in what they serve the public. 

[jonnyutah 459]

7 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Appreciate your attempt at discourse.  Probably the best way you can honor Kirk.

Let me point out a few things...

1) There is no "if".  Kimmel was fired after Brendan Carr said he will take action if he's not.  "Easy way or hard way".  Disney chose the easy way.  To follow up, Trump celebrated, said more is coming, and said it should be illegal to talk negative about him.  The US govt is pressuring the media to remove speech they don't like. 100%

2) it's not about Kimmel.  I don't think many people actually watch Kimmel.  He's just the latest.  Universities, law firms, tech, media, trump is assaulting the first amendment all over this country and it's getting worse.  We need to take a stand.

3) The "left" did not kill Kirk, a crazy murderer did.  When you blame half the country for the actions of one lunatic you've lost, especially when 99% of those people object to his murder.

4) I am against cancel culture, always have been.  Cancel culture is not a "left" thing.  Bud light, tractor supply, target, both sides.  It's all silly IMO, but it's still not unconstitutional.

Would be interested in continuing a healthy debate if you're interested.  Can provide sources for most of what I've said.

This has all been debunked. 

[jonnyutah 459]

15 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

Yep.  Honestly I think Kimmel was on his way out anyway.  If he was making them a lot of money, this wouldn't have happened.  We don't know, but based on ratings, contracts they'd have to pay, his show was likely losing money and this gave them an excuse to end it. 

However, the FCC should stay out of it.  While I don't agree with Kimmel, I don't like even the perception that the government is involved.  If you believe in your position, you gain more from someone like Kimmel spouting off the short side of a 20/80 issue than you ever do by removing him.  Let him speak, same for Ilhan Omar.  I feel like the more they speak, the better it is for people who believe as I do.  If you believe your position is right, open discussion about it should only strengthen it.

Then we need to change the laws. 

[Ron_Artest 1,904]

3 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

This has all been debunked. 

No it hasnt

[League Champion 1,919]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

No it hasnt

Have you been cancelled? Apparently not, because you're still here. 

I know many conservatives who have been cancelled in this very Forum for speaking the truth. 

[seafoam1 3,273]

6 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

This has all been debunked. 

All of it. 

[BrahmaBulls 857]

6 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

This has all been debunked. 

Gutter is a known liar right up there with Schochet.

[TimHauck 3,156]

On 9/18/2025 at 1:33 PM, TimHauck said:

Rumeysa Ozturk

 

On 9/19/2025 at 1:07 PM, TimHauck said:

^cancelled by the conservative government for her speech 

 

[Voltaire 5,396]

I don't like that the head of the FCC put himself in the role of weighing in on what Kimmel said. I don't think the FCC should have that role because we all saw how it had been abused about 1000x worse by the Biden regime.

Since they do have that power, and since Kimmel was one of the biggest advocates for that power being used against people he disagreed with, he and his advocates who were quiet when it was used against everyone else are hypocrites and can go fock themselves.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot and the Dems and their cancel culture cheerleaders are all taking an opposite position to what they advocated for nine months ago, maybe we can finally get the knee-jerk censors from Team Satan on board with a bipartisan bill eliminating the role of the FCC to patrol speech.

But they were such insufferable jerk a$$holes for many years, it wouldn't be so bad to make them feel the heat for more than a few days. 

I dunno. Whatever. Democrats are such worthless focking sh*t human beings. Now that they finally know what it's like, its nice to see some sense has been beaten into them and they're forced to take the right's position on something. 

I still thing its best to strike while the opportunity present. I'm fully aware from the last ten years that the left is full of sh*t with their newfound appreciation for the first amendment, its all crocodile tears with them. They really couldn't give a sh*t and they'll revert back to mass censorship the moment they are back in office. Instead of beating them with their own stick, no matter how much fun it is, its best for the country to throw the stick away. 

We know who the Dems are. The Dems were uniformly cheering on Gollum's censorship fanaticism when they possessed the ring. it's best us Frodos to throw the damn thing in the Mordor fires while we have it in our possession.

Be the party of the country's best interest and strip the FCC of the power to regulate speech during this window while the Dems are willing to get on board. IMO Trump's FCC shouldn't use Biden tactics. 

[Dizkneelande 1,136]

17 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I don't like that the head of the FCC put himself in the role of weighing in on what Kimmel said. I don't think the FCC should have that role because we all saw how it had been abused about 1000x worse by the Biden regime.

Since they do have that power, and since Kimmel was one of the biggest advocates for that power being used against people he disagreed with, he and his advocates who were quiet when it was used against everyone else are hypocrites and can go fock themselves.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot and the Dems and their cancel culture cheerleaders are all taking an opposite position to what they advocated for nine months ago, maybe we can finally get the knee-jerk censors from Team Satan on board with a bipartisan bill eliminating the role of the FCC to patrol speech.

But they were such insufferable jerk a$$holes for many years, it wouldn't be so bad to make them feel the heat for more than a few days. 

I dunno. Whatever. Democrats are such worthless focking sh*t human beings. Now that they finally know what it's like, its nice to see some sense has been beaten into them and they're forced to take the right's position on something. 

I still thing its best to strike while the opportunity present. I'm fully aware from the last ten years that the left is full of sh*t with their newfound appreciation for the first amendment, its all crocodile tears with them. They really couldn't give a sh*t and they'll revert back to mass censorship the moment they are back in office. Instead of beating them with their own stick, no matter how much fun it is, its best for the country to throw the stick away. 

We know who the Dems are. The Dems were uniformly cheering on Gollum's censorship fanaticism when they possessed the ring. it's best us Frodos to throw the damn thing in the Mordor fires while we have it in our possession.

Be the party of the country's best interest and strip the FCC of the power to regulate speech during this window while the Dems are willing to get on board. IMO Trump's FCC shouldn't use Biden tactics. 

[seafoam1 3,273]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

Timhack replying to not 1 but 2 of his stupid posts. 

Tripling down on stupidity is what the hack and the liberal collective do on a daily basis.

[Dizkneelande 1,136]

 

[Gepetto 1,421]

Didn’t Imus get cancelled for saying some woman had nappy hair? Pretty sure. I don’t know who or what organization pressured for that firing. They cried racism.

[Ron_Artest 1,904]

@Voltaire can you give me an example where Biden used the FCC to pressure a network to remove talent under threat of losing their broadcast license?

[Voltaire 5,396]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

@Voltaire can you give me an example where Biden used the FCC to pressure a network to remove talent under threat of losing their broadcast license?

Here's how the Biden regime treated Facebook regarding COVID, a left leaning media outlet: 

There was already rampant censorship going on in left wing media. It started with Alex Jones, for obvious reasons, but once they got his pelt on the wall, it never stopped. Then the next level targets were racist fruitcakes like Richard Spencer and Nick Fuentes. OK. The onion rings kept getting pulled back. QAnon went. Keep going. Milo was a jerk, but a very talented jerk, he wasn't a liar or racist and his level or snark would have mostly been acceptable here at Mike's FFT but right out at FBG because FBG is/was run by sh*theads. Milo is a drobeski tier personality and the first time they really started entering mainstream conservative content. And they just kept right on going. Regular content like Stephen Crowder, Lauren Southern, and Brittney Pettibone were banned. I presume Jordan Peterson getting banned on Twitter was the final straw for Elon Musk, who initiated his purchase of that platform while news of his ban was still being digested. This was the first chink in their oppression.

Roseanne and Gina Carono were getting the axe, Tucker Carlson got fired, Tulsi Gabbard was placed on a no fly list. President Trump's twitter account was blocked and he was hit with a slew of bullsh*t legal cases. People getting de-banked, de-platformed left and right. Attacks on advertisers on those not banned. More specifically to your question, how involved was the Biden administration in this top down, bottoms up, attack from the side full court press of censorship from the left.  It was all an amorphous blob of left wing censorship overreach where one had was washing the other. The real "threat to democracy", unlike trump's overreach which at worst is 1/1000th as bad. 

So pardon me for not giving a sh*t about the left's crocodile tears.

[Ron_Artest 1,904]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

Here's how the Biden regime treated Facebook regarding COVID, a left leaning media outlet: 

There was already rampant censorship going on in left wing media. It started with Alex Jones, for obvious reasons, but once they got his pelt on the wall, it never stopped. Then the next level targets were racist fruitcakes like Richard Spencer and Nick Fuentes. OK. The onion rings kept getting pulled back. QAnon went. Keep going. Milo was a jerk, but a very talented jerk, he wasn't a liar or racist and his level or snark would have mostly been acceptable here at Mike's FFT but right out at FBG because FBG is/was run by sh*theads. Milo is a drobeski tier personality and the first time they really started entering mainstream conservative content. And they just kept right on going. Regular content like Stephen Crowder, Lauren Southern, and Brittney Pettibone were banned. I presume Jordan Peterson getting banned on Twitter was the final straw for Elon Musk, who initiated his purchase of that platform while news of his ban was still being digested. This was the first chink in their oppression.

Roseanne and Gina Carono were getting the axe, Tucker Carlson got fired, Tulsi Gabbard was placed on a no fly list. President Trump's twitter account was blocked and he was hit with a slew of bullsh*t legal cases. People getting de-banked, de-platformed left and right. Attacks on advertisers on those not banned. More specifically to your question, how involved was the Biden administration in this top down, bottoms up, attack from the side full court press of censorship from the left.  It was all an amorphous blob of left wing censorship overreach where one had was washing the other. The real "threat to democracy", unlike trump's overreach which at worst is 1/1000th as bad. 

So pardon me for not giving a sh*t about the left's crocodile tears.

So Biden didn't use the power of the FCC to silence anyone, got it.

Also outside of the Facebook stuff, nothing you described was done by the govt.

That's the difference 

[Mike Honcho 5,357]

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Here's how the Biden regime treated Facebook regarding COVID, a left leaning media outlet: 

There was already rampant censorship going on in left wing media. It started with Alex Jones, for obvious reasons, but once they got his pelt on the wall, it never stopped. Then the next level targets were racist fruitcakes like Richard Spencer and Nick Fuentes. OK. The onion rings kept getting pulled back. QAnon went. Keep going. Milo was a jerk, but a very talented jerk, he wasn't a liar or racist and his level or snark would have mostly been acceptable here at Mike's FFT but right out at FBG because FBG is/was run by sh*theads. Milo is a drobeski tier personality and the first time they really started entering mainstream conservative content. And they just kept right on going. Regular content like Stephen Crowder, Lauren Southern, and Brittney Pettibone were banned. I presume Jordan Peterson getting banned on Twitter was the final straw for Elon Musk, who initiated his purchase of that platform while news of his ban was still being digested. This was the first chink in their oppression.

Roseanne and Gina Carono were getting the axe, Tucker Carlson got fired, Tulsi Gabbard was placed on a no fly list. President Trump's twitter account was blocked and he was hit with a slew of bullsh*t legal cases. People getting de-banked, de-platformed left and right. Attacks on advertisers on those not banned. More specifically to your question, how involved was the Biden administration in this top down, bottoms up, attack from the side full court press of censorship from the left.  It was all an amorphous blob of left wing censorship overreach where one had was washing the other. The real "threat to democracy", unlike trump's overreach which at worst is 1/1000th as bad. 

So pardon me for not giving a sh*t about the left's crocodile tears.

 

She wasn't put on a No-Fly list-she was put on a list for a short time because her flights automatically triggered it.

Reports surfaced in late 2024 that Tulsi Gabbard was briefly placed on the Transportation Security Administration's (TSA) "Quiet Skies" list, which prompted additional airport security screenings. She claimed this was politically motivated, while anonymous sources stated it was triggered by an algorithm based on her travel patterns. She was reportedly removed from the list after less than two weeks. 

 

 

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Details of the incident

• The list: Gabbard was placed on the "Quiet Skies" list, a program that monitors travelers who are not on a traditional terrorist watch list but are deemed to pose a potential security threat based on behavioral patterns or travel history.
• Source of the information: The issue was brought to light by whistleblowers from the Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS) in August 2024, according to statements from congressional members like Tim Burchett and James Comer.
• Gabbard's claim: She asserted that her placement on the list was an act of political retaliation by the Biden administration, specifically linking it to her criticism of then-candidate Kamala Harris on Fox News.
• TSA's account: Officials familiar with the "Quiet Skies" program contradicted Gabbard's claim, stating she was flagged by an algorithm based on her international travel and foreign connections, not her public statements. They also said she was removed automatically after a short period, not due to her public complaint.

 

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[Mike Honcho 5,357]

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Here's how the Biden regime treated Facebook regarding COVID, a left leaning media outlet: 

There was already rampant censorship going on in left wing media. It started with Alex Jones, for obvious reasons, but once they got his pelt on the wall, it never stopped. Then the next level targets were racist fruitcakes like Richard Spencer and Nick Fuentes. OK. The onion rings kept getting pulled back. QAnon went. Keep going. Milo was a jerk, but a very talented jerk, he wasn't a liar or racist and his level or snark would have mostly been acceptable here at Mike's FFT but right out at FBG because FBG is/was run by sh*theads. Milo is a drobeski tier personality and the first time they really started entering mainstream conservative content. And they just kept right on going. Regular content like Stephen Crowder, Lauren Southern, and Brittney Pettibone were banned. I presume Jordan Peterson getting banned on Twitter was the final straw for Elon Musk, who initiated his purchase of that platform while news of his ban was still being digested. This was the first chink in their oppression.

Roseanne and Gina Carono were getting the axe, Tucker Carlson got fired, Tulsi Gabbard was placed on a no fly list. President Trump's twitter account was blocked and he was hit with a slew of bullsh*t legal cases. People getting de-banked, de-platformed left and right. Attacks on advertisers on those not banned. More specifically to your question, how involved was the Biden administration in this top down, bottoms up, attack from the side full court press of censorship from the left.  It was all an amorphous blob of left wing censorship overreach where one had was washing the other. The real "threat to democracy", unlike trump's overreach which at worst is 1/1000th as bad. 

So pardon me for not giving a sh*t about the left's crocodile tears.

Alex Jones was not censored by left wing media, he was found liable for defamation, one of the limits of free speech, so you might want to try and find some better examples. And Tucker cost his company 700 million for repeatedly lying---most people would get fired for that. 

[seafoam1 3,273]

Liberals pretending they didn't start cancel culture and foster it's growth over the past many years is hilarious. They are so stupid. 

[jonnyutah 459]

Surely all your attempts to explain why it is (d)ifferent will work this time. 

[Mike Honcho 5,357]

I'm actually amused by the crying about cancel culture.  People using their Freedom of Speech and buying power to say what they still for and what they will not.  

[Voltaire 5,396]

You guys are focking head-up-your-ass idiots. I don't know why I keep thinking I can attempt productive conversations with lemmings, when I have so very little time to waste on you to begin with. I've a million other things to do. I can't even enjoy the Green Bay tank job properly.

[TimHauck 3,156]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So Biden didn't use the power of the FCC to silence anyone, got it.

Also outside of the Facebook stuff, nothing you described was done by the govt.

That's the difference 

Yup.  And even with the Facebook/Twitter stuff, they could and did say no.   Zuck claims his people got yelled at, but didn’t say anything about being threatened.

[Mike Honcho 5,357]

16 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

You guys are focking head-up-your-ass idiots. I don't know why I keep thinking I can attempt productive conversations with lemmings, when I have so very little time to waste on you to begin with. I've a million other things to do. I can't even enjoy the Green Bay tank job properly.

I for one will miss you making up "facts".