Democrats in the wrong fight- don’t shut down the government

[The Real timschochet 7,203]

The Democrats continue to be such idiots. So politically inept. I have predicted over and over that there will be blue wave in 2026 but the Dems could also blow it. They’re so bad at this. 

The latest is this political shutdown. The Dems are absolutely right from their perspective that the Republican budget is horrendous. Trump refuses to negotiate. Trump says if they go through with the shutdown he’ll start firing people left and right. The Democrat base is demanding that they better not give in an inch. 

The public won’t care about the issues involved. As always they will blame the party that instigated the shutdown. They will blame the Dems. Part of this is because the Democrats are led by Chuck Schumer  and Hakan Jeffries who are, let’s be honest, wussies. They look weak and they are weak. The most likely result is 3 weeks of shutdown and the Dems will cave. And look worse than before. 

This is not the battle you want. Dems should agree to the budget and look towards 2026. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,634]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

The Democrats continue to be such idiots.

Been like that my whole life... why stop now?

[TBayXXXVII 2,634]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Part of this is because the Democrats are led by Chuck Schumer  and Hakan Jeffries who are, let’s be honest, wussies. They look weak and they are weak. The most likely result is 3 weeks of shutdown and the Dems will cave. And look worse than before. 

This is the whole Democrat party.  They actually, really don't care one bit about the people they pretend to.  Their ONLY objective is to create victims in this country so that there will always be a class of people to fight for (even though they never actually fight... they just yell and scream).  Again, another reason why this is the worst political party the planet has ever seen.

[squistion 2,380]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

The Democrats continue to be such idiots. So politically inept. I have predicted over and over that there will be blue wave in 2026 but the Dems could also blow it. They’re so bad at this. 

The latest is this political shutdown. The Dems are absolutely right from their perspective that the Republican budget is horrendous. Trump refuses to negotiate. Trump says if they go through with the shutdown he’ll start firing people left and right. The Democrat base is demanding that they better not give in an inch. 

The public won’t care about the issues involved. As always they will blame the party that instigated the shutdown. They will blame the Dems. Part of this is because the Democrats are led by Chuck Schumer  and Hakan Jeffries who are, let’s be honest, wussies. They look weak and they are weak. The most likely result is 3 weeks of shutdown and the Dems will cave. And look worse than before. 

This is not the battle you want. Dems should agree to the budget and look towards 2026. 

So just capitulate?

SMH.

[squistion 2,380]

 https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1971018603710304512

Trump has reportedly instructed federal agencies to prepare to MASS fire employees if there is a government shutdown. Basically, he is claiming that he doesn’t want a government shutdown while planning to massively fire people if we do have a government shut down.

By the way, this is directly From project 2025

 

[supermike80 2,045]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The Democrats continue to be such idiots. So politically inept. I have predicted over and over that there will be blue wave in 2026 but the Dems could also blow it. They’re so bad at this. 

The latest is this political shutdown. The Dems are absolutely right from their perspective that the Republican budget is horrendous. Trump refuses to negotiate. Trump says if they go through with the shutdown he’ll start firing people left and right. The Democrat base is demanding that they better not give in an inch. 

The public won’t care about the issues involved. As always they will blame the party that instigated the shutdown. They will blame the Dems. Part of this is because the Democrats are led by Chuck Schumer  and Hakan Jeffries who are, let’s be honest, wussies. They look weak and they are weak. The most likely result is 3 weeks of shutdown and the Dems will cave. And look worse than before. 

This is not the battle you want. Dems should agree to the budget and look towards 2026. 

To my point earlier.   These are the leaders of your party.  More Jasmine Crockett please!

[Maximum Overkill 2,311]

14 minutes ago, squistion said:

By the way, this is directly From project 2025

This is awesome  

[Meglamaniac 735]

19 minutes ago, squistion said:

 https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1971018603710304512

Trump has reportedly instructed federal agencies to prepare to MASS fire employees if there is a government shutdown. Basically, he is claiming that he doesn’t want a government shutdown while planning to massively fire people if we do have a government shut down.

By the way, this is directly From project 2025

 

Do you need your binky

[Voltaire 5,406]

The Dems don’t have any leverage. The GOP has the votes to roll them -and do. Whatever they do seems unlikely to work. It’s likely best for them to take the punches and attack the GOP for any perceived overreach.
 

I think letting the GOP win on trannies in women’s spaces to both let sanity prevail and take the massive club tha is that issue off the table would make sense. Instead they are going all in on it and primarying Scott Evil… er … Seth Moulton.

[The Real timschochet 7,203]

8 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The Dems don’t have any leverage. The GOP has the votes to roll them -and do. Whatever they do seems unlikely to work. It’s likely best for them to take the punches and attack the GOP for any perceived overreach.
 

 

For once I agree with you. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,825]

Meh

[supermike80 2,045]

I really cant process the dems position until their leader Jasmine responds

[Voltaire 5,406]

45 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I really cant process the dems position until their leader Jasmine responds

Even that likely won't work until after 60 minutes edits it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,825]

Governors race in New Jersey a dead heat.  Yeah, that New Jersey.  

[lickin_starfish 1,988]

There won't be a government shutdown. Red and Blue are on the same team, putting on a show for us peasants. They will come up with a last minute deal and act like they are heroes, just like always.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,302]

Blue wave in 2026. Good luck after the left celebrated Charlie Kirk's death.

[Fnord 2,429]

18 hours ago, Voltaire said:

The Dems don’t have any leverage. The GOP has the votes to roll them -and do. Whatever they do seems unlikely to work. It’s likely best for them to take the punches and attack the GOP for any perceived overreach.

In the old days this would be the correct approach. In this situation however, we have like a third of the country that refuses to believe that anything this admin does could ever be construed as overreach. Literally everything is justified. Just read through the posts celebrating the righteous power grab.

I've always thought gov't shutdowns were stupid. I still do. But I cannot think of a better reason for it than what their reason is: preserving healthcare for US citizens (assuming they're being honest about it ).

This country is already fuct. Shut it down, let Trump fire everybody, stage an epic game of chicken between these supremely awful parties. Let it burn. Maybe the public will finally wake up and vote all the bastards out.

[Fnord 2,429]

8 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Blue wave in 2026. Good luck after the left celebrated Charlie Kirk's death.

We're still over a year out. Trump has plenty of time to fock up even more stuff. We ain't seen nothin yet.

[The Real timschochet 7,203]

I listened to Chuck Schumer on Meet the Press this morning. He is so weak, so awful, so unconvincing. 

I get the argument being made by @Fnord and others. I really do. This shutdown is the only way for Democrats to defy Trump for at least another year. I get the desire to “let it all burn down”. 
 

Except that won’t happen. Because with Schumer the Democrats just don’t have the leadership to carry this fight through to the end. What will happen instead is that shutdown will start, Trump will start firing people, and Schumer will cave after a few weeks. It’s entirely predictable. Conservatives will cheer Trump, independents will blame the Democrats, and the Democratic base will be infuriated and start primarying anyone who goes along with Schumer which will jeopardize next years elections. It’s entirely predictable. 

[HellToupee 2,058]

On 9/25/2025 at 5:55 PM, squistion said:

By the way, this is directly From project 2025

I voted for this

[supermike80 2,045]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I listened to Chuck Schumer on Meet the Press this morning. He is so weak, so awful, so unconvincing. 

I get the argument being made by @Fnord and others. I really do. This shutdown is the only way for Democrats to defy Trump for at least another year. I get the desire to “let it all burn down”. 
 

Except that won’t happen. Because with Schumer the Democrats just don’t have the leadership to carry this fight through to the end. What will happen instead is that shutdown will start, Trump will start firing people, and Schumer will cave after a few weeks. It’s entirely predictable. Conservatives will cheer Trump, independents will blame the Democrats, and the Democratic base will be infuriated and start primarying anyone who goes along with Schumer which will jeopardize next years elections. It’s entirely predictable. 

Has the democrat leader Crockett weighed in yet?  Considering how much you love her, i assume you will follow her leadership on this issue

[thegeneral 3,449]

I haven’t followed this at all. Why can’t the Republicans get what they want again? Super majority in the Senate?

They always pass something at the last minute so am just assuming this will be the same.

Last one of these was because Dems had the numbers and Trump shot himself in the foot IIRC

[The Real timschochet 7,203]

18 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Has the democrat leader Crockett weighed in yet?  Considering how much you love her, i assume you will follow her leadership on this issue

I like her for her snappy comments about Trump. She’s got spunk, and unlike Lou Grant, I like spunk.  I enjoy listening to her. 
 

But she’ll never be the leader of the Democrats and I wouldn’t want that. Her political positions are too leftist for me. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

 I like spunk.  
 

Not surprised but no need to post about your fetishes here. 

[supermike80 2,045]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I like her for her snappy comments about Trump. She’s got spunk, and unlike Lou Grant, I like spunk.  I enjoy listening to her. 
 

But she’ll never be the leader of the Democrats and I wouldn’t want that. Her political positions are too leftist for me. 

So who is the democrat leader?  AOC? Schumer?  She gets a lot of press.  Who you got?  Gavin?

Or maybe still Harris for you?

[The Real timschochet 7,203]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

So who is the democrat leader?  AOC? Schumer?  She gets a lot of press.  Who you got?  Gavin?

Or maybe still Harris for you?

The Democrats are essentially leaderless and will be until they nominate a new candidate for President sometime in early 2028. Until then, the two closest we have to leaders is Schumer and Hakim Jeffries. Which is like currently having Jake Browning and Carson Wentz as your quarterbacks. It’s not preferred. 

[supermike80 2,045]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

The Democrats are essentially leaderless and will be until they nominate a new candidate for President sometime in early 2028. Until then, the two closest we have to leaders is Schumer and Hakim Jeffries. Which is like currently having Jake Browning and Carson Wentz as your quarterbacks. It’s not preferred. 

Omg i totally forgot about Jeffries!

Lol. Yeah.  Back him

[Hardcore troubadour 15,825]

7 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Omg i totally forgot about Jeffries!

Lol. Yeah.  Back him

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