squistion 2,385 Posted Monday at 07:39 PM It is looking more and more likely this will happen. From my friend Grok: Trump's White House Meeting Fails to Prevent Government Shutdown Deadline Last updated 42 minutes ago President Donald Trump convened with congressional leaders including House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer at the White House on September 29, 2025, in an effort to pass a continuing resolution before the October 1 funding deadline, but the discussions ended without agreement. Republicans advocate for a clean spending bill maintaining current funding levels, while Democrats insist on extending enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies set to expire on December 31, which could otherwise lead to premium increases for millions. A potential shutdown would furlough 2.3 million federal workers, close national parks, delay veterans' benefits, and halt economic data releases like the upcoming jobs report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,899 Posted Monday at 07:40 PM Dems keep tripping over their own two feet. Keep it coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,271 Posted Monday at 08:54 PM Did they get suspended from fftoday? If not, Yawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,072 Posted Monday at 08:56 PM Schumer wants free healthcare for every illegal in the country. Doesn’t care about citizens or federal employees. It’s just that important to him 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,599 Posted Monday at 09:10 PM 10 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Schumer wants free healthcare for every illegal in the country. Doesn’t care about citizens or federal employees. It’s just that important to him This is just ridiculous. Just look to California and how they did this; completely bankrupted the state healthcare system in a very short time. Now they want to ask people over 65 to go back to work to pay for it; along with a few other "options." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,072 Posted Monday at 09:14 PM I would have more respect for the democrat party if they tried to do this for American citizens , I ‘d be against it, but the disregard for citizens to take care of illegal aliens is disgusting From JD Vance .@VP: Democrats are willing to shut down the federal government because we won't give them $1.5 trillion (including taxpayer-funded free health care for illegals). We're simply not going to do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,845 Posted Monday at 09:17 PM Schumers shutdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,385 Posted Monday at 09:53 PM 55 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Schumer wants free healthcare for every illegal in the country. Doesn’t care about citizens or federal employees. It’s just that important to him No he doesn't, that is a lie. But carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,315 Posted Monday at 11:26 PM 1 hour ago, squistion said: No he doesn't, that is a lie. But carry on. Lying again Squissy Trump took to Truth Social with a post announcing he would refuse to negotiate unless Democrats “agree to the principles in this letter.” Those “principles” included a slate of anti-trans measures — from bans on transgender healthcare to nationwide sports restrictions. By digging in, Trump has turned the shutdown fight into a test of whether Democrats will hold the line for their trans and queer constituents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,271 Posted yesterday at 12:26 AM Shut it down, shut it down. Let’s hit the reboot button Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,978 Posted yesterday at 10:36 AM Republicans own the house, the Senate, and the white house. Govt shutdown? Democrats fault 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,472 Posted yesterday at 11:05 AM Shut it down. I say it every single time no matter who is in charge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,072 Posted yesterday at 12:15 PM from Brenden Dilley ” The Schumer shutdown is going to go down as the biggest middle finger to Americans in the history of government. He's not advocating or negotiating for the middle class, registered democrats, or some forgotten group of America. Instead he's negotiating for illegal aliens.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,978 Posted yesterday at 12:21 PM Oh well if Brendan dilley said that then it has to be true 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,845 Posted yesterday at 12:37 PM Imagine a shutdown because the democrats want more money for trans surgeries ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,978 Posted yesterday at 12:39 PM 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Imagine a shutdown because the democrats want more money for trans surgeries ? Is that what AM talk radio is saying? I would be against that too. Imagine being dumb enough to believe that? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,072 Posted yesterday at 12:41 PM Let’s shut the government down because you won’t give illegals free healthcare as well as the rest of the freebies. Schumer’s shutdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,385 Posted yesterday at 12:42 PM 25 minutes ago, HellToupee said: from Brenden Dilley ”The Schumer shutdown is going to go down as the biggest middle finger to Americans in the history of government. He's not advocating or negotiating for the middle class, registered democrats, or some forgotten group of America. Instead he's negotiating for illegal aliens.” And Trump isn't negotiating at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,978 Posted yesterday at 12:55 PM 13 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Let’s shut the government down because you won’t give illegals free healthcare as well as the rest of the freebies. Schumer’s shutdown funding for trans surgeries - check free healthcare for illegals - check What other lies are you guys swallowing this morning? Free Bus rides for MS-13 members to the voting booth? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,072 Posted yesterday at 01:31 PM 34 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: funding for trans surgeries - check free healthcare for illegals - check What other lies are you guys swallowing this morning? Free Bus rides for MS-13 members to the voting booth? Schumer’s shutdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,711 Posted yesterday at 01:32 PM 52 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Is that what AM talk radio is saying? I would be against that too. Imagine being dumb enough to believe that? HT knows it’s fake. He just lies a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,072 Posted yesterday at 01:39 PM Using their own words…… Schumer’s Shutdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,822 Posted yesterday at 01:46 PM Tragic that the parks won't have workers for a couple of weeks. And I heard it's all because schumer wants money to bus MS-13 members to voting booths. SAD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,072 Posted yesterday at 01:50 PM Just now, nobody said: Tragic that the parks won't have workers for a couple of weeks. And I heard it's all because schumer wants money to bus MS-13 members to voting booths. SAD No don’t give cover to the democrats. It’s because they want to give illegals free healthcare. Schumer is going along to save his own scalp , he actually doesn’t want this but will give in to the radicals to keep his gravy train running Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,385 Posted yesterday at 02:02 PM 8 minutes ago, HellToupee said: No don’t give cover to the democrats. It’s because they want to give illegals free healthcare. Schumer is going along to save his own scalp , he actually doesn’t want this but will give in to the radicals to keep his gravy train running Quit repeating that lie. From Google: Republican figures have accused Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and Democrats of seeking to provide free healthcare to undocumented immigrants, specifically during recent 2025 budget negotiations However, Democrats, including House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, deny this accusation and state that their proposals do not include healthcare for undocumented immigrants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,978 Posted yesterday at 02:05 PM The truth is that democrats are holding firm on ACA subsidies and reversing medicaid cuts. Republicans will never give in on this. So we have a shutdown. Republicans will blame democrats, democrats will blame republicans, regular people will suffer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,212 Posted yesterday at 02:07 PM 18 hours ago, Strike said: Dems keep tripping over their own two feet. Unfortunately this is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,072 Posted yesterday at 02:08 PM 5 minutes ago, squistion said: However, Democrats, including House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, deny this accusation and state that their proposals do not include healthcare for illegal aliens This is a lie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,212 Posted yesterday at 02:09 PM Personally I absolutely am in favor of giving undocumented immigrants access to free healthcare. But Democrats are not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,072 Posted yesterday at 02:11 PM 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Personally I absolutely am in favor of giving undocumented immigrants access to free healthcare. But Democrats are not. Disgusting. You want to treat illegals better than fellow citizens. Truly disgusting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,385 Posted yesterday at 02:13 PM 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: This is a lie No it isn't. Show me a link that proves that that the proposals from Democrats in this shutdown situation include healthcare for illegal aliens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,453 Posted yesterday at 02:15 PM Our government is a dumpster fire. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,212 Posted yesterday at 02:21 PM 6 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Disgusting. You want to treat illegals better than fellow citizens. Truly disgusting I don’t. I want them to have access to minimal healthcare. Otherwise they are a public health risk. It’s not rocket science and it’s not disgusting either. I don’t want to deport them because I believe that they are overall a net economic benefit (and a cultural benefit but that’s a different issue) and I don’t want them spreading diseases. So they need to have minimal healthcare. Pretty simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,441 Posted yesterday at 02:21 PM 5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Our government is a dumpster fire. If only they could contain it to our own gov't it wouldn't be so painful. They've set most of the world ablaze politically and economically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,441 Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM 31 minutes ago, HellToupee said: No don’t give cover to the democrats. It’s because they want to give illegals free healthcare. Schumer is going along to save his own scalp , he actually doesn’t want this but will give in to the radicals to keep his gravy train running This is bullshit. Stop lying. This is about AMERICANS losing the healthcare that THEY need. Once again, the Dems stepping up to try to help the working class, but are too dumb to be able to get the message across. Of course it doesn't help that the news sources many Americans consume (Fox, Newsmax, etc.) won't ever cover a news story with a potentially positive spin for Democrats, so you just keep hearing the lies. The funding that your party is trying to take away will have disastrous outcomes for millions of Americans. I'm okay with a few illegals getting care if it means we're taking care of our own. Are you? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,212 Posted yesterday at 02:40 PM 13 minutes ago, Fnord said: This is bullshit. Stop lying. This is about AMERICANS losing the healthcare that THEY need. Once again, the Dems stepping up to try to help the working class, but are too dumb to be able to get the message across. Of course it doesn't help that the news sources many Americans consume (Fox, Newsmax, etc.) won't ever cover a news story with a potentially positive spin for Democrats, so you just keep hearing the lies. The funding that your party is trying to take away will have disastrous outcomes for millions of Americans. I'm okay with a few illegals getting care if it means we're taking care of our own. Are you? Agree with this but shutting down the government to try to achieve this is a loser. When has it ever worked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,212 Posted yesterday at 02:48 PM Democrats will lose this battle because when shutdowns occur the public ALWAYS blames the side that makes demands. Not almost always. Always. This isn’t rocket science either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,441 Posted yesterday at 02:50 PM 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Agree with this but shutting down the government to try to achieve this is a loser. When has it ever worked? I don't know. Never, maybe? It's discouraging how inept the Dems are right now. Weak, clueless idiots. When we need the opposite. FFS they could cure cancer and famine in one fell swoop and still figure out a why to be vilified for it. I'm back to waffling on the shutdown. If the message that Dems are doing the right thing here, and the Reps are doing the absolute opposite can't get out, what's the point? Let's just avoid the shutdown and let the chips fall at the end of the year when a few million people lose all their healthcare. Maybe we just need to wait for folks to really feel the pain. Maybe we need a hurricane to flatten half of Alabama to show voters the outcomes that are in store for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,978 Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Democrats will lose this battle because when shutdowns occur the public ALWAYS blames the side that makes demands. Not almost always. Always. This isn’t rocket science either. The democrat party is a dumpster fire. Trump owns everything and people largely believe whatever lies he says. As someone who respects the truth, it's quite disheartening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites