US Federal Government Shutdown Thread

[squistion 2,504]

 

[HellToupee 2,187]

9 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

More lies by the biggest liar on the boards. Why wont the democrats pass the CR?

[Ron_Artest 2,183]

9 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

More lies by the biggest liar on the boards. Why wont the democrats pass the CR?

Not a lie, bozo.

Republican Sen. John Thune blasts Democrats over SNAP, shutdown https://share.google/V9xSf6CeRyE3GMaPn

[The Real timschochet 7,402]

The Democrats have won this battle in terms of public opinion…so far. But that’s not going to last IMO. Very soon it’s going to be “a plague on both your houses” with Dems being blamed as much as Republicans. 

I think the Dems should at this point consider voting for the CR. They can explain to the base that they didn’t want to see people lose their SNAP benefits. The base will be angry but it will quickly be forgotten because (1) the health care premiums will go up and the public will nearly unanimously blame the GOP (2) prices will continue to rise and the public will nearly unanimously blame the GOP (3) if Democrats do this it will immediately force Johnson to open the House which means a vote on Epstein which will cause that scandal to rise to the forefront again. 

I think the Dems have gained as much as they can out of this shutdown and should now appear to be the adults in the room. Just my take and they don’t listen to me. 

[seafoam1 3,407]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The Democrats have caused damage to this country.

Agreed. They are losers..

[squistion 2,504]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The Democrats have won this battle in terms of public opinion…so far. But that’s not going to last IMO. Very soon it’s going to be “a plague on both your houses” with Dems being blamed as much as Republicans. 

I think the Dems should at this point consider voting for the CR. They can explain to the base that they didn’t want to see people lose their SNAP benefits. The base will be angry but it will quickly be forgotten because (1) the health care premiums will go up and the public will nearly unanimously blame the GOP (2) prices will continue to rise and the public will nearly unanimously blame the GOP (3) if Democrats do this it will immediately force Johnson to open the House which means a vote on Epstein which will cause that scandal to rise to the forefront again. 

I think the Dems have gained as much as they can out of this shutdown and should now appear to be the adults in the room. Just my take and they don’t listen to me. 

Tim, you want the Democrats to do a Neville Chamberlain and capitulate hoping that Republicans will keep there promise will be willing to discuss keeping Obamacare after the government shutdown is over, but that won't happen. 

[The Real timschochet 7,402]

Just now, squistion said:

Tim, you want the Democrats to do a Neville Chamberlain and capitulate hoping that Republicans will keep there promise will be willing to discuss keeping Obamacare after the government shutdown is over, but that won't happen. 

Of course it won’t happen. But if it doesn’t it only makes the Republicans look worse. If the Dems open the government back up and the Republicans then refuse to negotiate on ACA then the Dems are blameless. Politically it’s a win win. On the other hand if the Dems continue to hold out at some point the public is going to blame them too. Do you see? I don’t believe you Chamberlain analogy is applicable in this instance. 

[seafoam1 3,407]

I hope the democrat's shutdown goes through Trump's whole term. 

[squistion 2,504]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course it won’t happen. But if it doesn’t it only makes the Republicans look worse. If the Dems open the government back up and the Republicans then refuse to negotiate on ACA then the Dems are blameless. Politically it’s a win win. On the other hand if the Dems continue to hold out at some point the public is going to blame them too. Do you see? I don’t believe you Chamberlain analogy is applicable in this instance. 

And how many folks will lose or won't be able to afford their healthcare as a result? And Chamberlain is applicable IMO because compromise or appeasement doesn't work with a dictator. 

[seafoam1 3,407]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

And how many folks will lose or won't be able to afford their healthcare as a result? And Chamberlain is applicable IMO because compromise or appeasement doesn't work with a dictator. 

Liberals should go back to work. Agreed.  

[thegeneral 3,577]

Flying to New York next week, then Mexico City, then Dallas the following weeks. You focking dopes better have the air traffic controllers and TSA working.

[Ron_Artest 2,183]

14 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Flying to New York next week, then Mexico City, then Dallas the following weeks. You focking dopes better have the air traffic controllers and TSA working.

Hopefully not ewr.  It's a sh1t show

[HellToupee 2,187]

29 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Flying to New York next week, then Mexico City, then Dallas the following weeks. You focking dopes better have the air traffic controllers and TSA working.

Good luck with that bro

[thegeneral 3,577]

4 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Good luck with that bro

I saw Newark was shutdown or very much slowed today. 

[thegeneral 3,577]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Hopefully not ewr.  It's a sh1t show

Yep. Prefer it over JFK but not when these dudes aren’t getting paid.

[The Real timschochet 7,402]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

And how many folks will lose or won't be able to afford their healthcare as a result?

They’re going to lose it anyhow. 

[squistion 2,504]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

They’re going to lose it anyhow. 

Better to go down fighting, doing the right thing as a matter of principle. rather than throw in the towel like Chamberlian did and hope for the best. 

[The Real timschochet 7,402]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Better to go down fighting, doing the right thing as a matter of principle. rather than throw in the towel like Chamberlian did and hope for the best. 

I get it but there are other factors to consider. Republicans are willing to let people go without SNAP benefits. Personally I’m not. I don’t like seeing anyone suffer. I would rather have the Dems give in, and see people fed, and deal with the fallout later on. But that’s just me. 

[HellToupee 2,187]

34 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Republicans are willing to let people go without SNAP benefits.

This is on the dems. Full stop as you would say

[BrahmaBulls 919]

56 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I get it but there are other factors to consider. Republicans are willing to let people go without SNAP benefits. Personally I’m not. I don’t like seeing anyone suffer. I would rather have the Dems give in, and see people fed, and deal with the fallout later on. But that’s just me. 

Squis is party over literally anything.

[Ron_Artest 2,183]

Now that Trump has caved on China I wouldn't be shocked to see him cave on the shutdown.  Democrats will get one year of ACA subsidies with a promise* to negotiate more Medicaid funding.  Deal complete Monday morning.

[squistion 2,504]

 

[Meglamaniac 786]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

Yea Polls

[SaintsInDome2006 635]

On 10/30/2025 at 5:46 AM, Ron_Artest said:

Now that Trump has caved on China I wouldn't be shocked to see him cave on the shutdown.  Democrats will get one year of ACA subsidies with a promise* to negotiate more Medicaid funding.  Deal complete Monday morning.

Oh no, Trump treats Americans much worse than our enemies and adversaries. Xi, who created the Wuhan Virus, steals our jobs & has nuclear missiles pointed at us, is his friend, but Americans who don’t agree with him are terrorists & journalists are enemies of the people.

[SaintsInDome2006 635]

3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Yea Polls

I agree here. This is the usual thing where Trump sits on his usual ~40% support (here 33%) & uses it as leverage. Plus he’s a lame duck now, he doesn’t really care, & his main goal is he’s trying to break the Congress as an institution.

[Meglamaniac 786]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I agree here. This is the usual thing where Trump sits on his usual ~40% support (here 33%) & uses it as leverage. Plus he’s a lame duck now, he doesn’t really care, he’s trying to break the Congress as an institution here.

OK

[Grace Under Pressure 161]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I agree here. This is the usual thing where Trump sits on his usual ~40% support (here 33%) & uses it as leverage. Plus he’s a lame duck now, he doesn’t really care, & his main goal is he’s trying to break the Congress as an institution.

MAGA cult aka the gullible rubes. Ruining the country. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,420]

4 hours ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

gullible rubes

Great band name 

[The Real timschochet 7,402]

5 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Oh no, Trump treats Americans much worse than our enemies and adversaries. Xi, who created the Wuhan Virus, steals our jobs & has nuclear missiles pointed at us, is his friend, but Americans who don’t agree with him are terrorists & journalists are enemies of the people.

I think I have the solution. 

Democrats need to name a dictator. It could be Gavin Newsom, AOC, Mamdani- doesn’t matter who. We announce that from now on all authority will be from this one person. For show we could even arrest a few critics, imprison them. We’ll stage big parades in honor of Our Leader. 
 

Trump will be our slave. He’ll immediately give us everything we want. This is brilliant; how can it fail? 

[Maximum Overkill 2,420]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It could be Gavin Newsom, AOC, Mamdani-

And you wonder why you lost in 2024?? 

[Fnord 2,501]

3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

And you wonder why you lost in 2024?? 

Because of dipshits like you that are so hopelessly partisan they won't allow a scrap of sanity to reach them?

We know.

[The Real timschochet 7,402]

7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

And you wonder why you lost in 2024?? 

We could name you as our dictator. Or me. It doesn’t matter. The point is we need to have a dictator for Donald Trump to love us and do what we want. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,420]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

We could name you as our dictator

I accept 

[SaintsInDome2006 635]

30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think I have the solution. 

Democrats need to name a dictator. It could be Gavin Newsom, AOC, Mamdani- doesn’t matter who. We announce that from now on all authority will be from this one person. For show we could even arrest a few critics, imprison them. We’ll stage big parades in honor of Our Leader. 
 

Trump will be our slave. He’ll immediately give us everything we want. This is brilliant; how can it fail? 

All kidding aside if we get out of this thing the precedents being set are potentially quite dangerous.

[Meglamaniac 786]

57 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Because of dipshits like you that are so hopelessly partisan they won't allow a scrap of sanity to reach them?

We know.

pot meet kettle, but you know this is why the Dems lost

[Meglamaniac 786]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think I have the solution. 

Democrats need to name a dictator. It could be Gavin Newsom, AOC, Mamdani- doesn’t matter who. We announce that from now on all authority will be from this one person. For show we could even arrest a few critics, imprison them. We’ll stage big parades in honor of Our Leader. 
 

Trump will be our slave. He’ll immediately give us everything we want. This is brilliant; how can it fail? 

better yet, you could move to another country and cry there

[Meglamaniac 786]

36 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

All kidding aside if we get out of this thing the precedents being set are potentially quite dangerous.

also

the sky is falling

[SaintsInDome2006 635]

3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

also

the sky is falling

Sure, all a question of values. I mean the guy oversaw a pandemic that he said wasn’t happening, leading to a million American deaths & a crashed economy, but hey let’s give it another whirl!

[Meglamaniac 786]

6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Sure, all a question of values. I mean the guy oversaw a pandemic that he said wasn’t happening, leading to a million American deaths & a crashed economy, but hey let’s give it another whirl!

sorry your guy/gal lost, try to hang on for 3 more years without driving yourself crazy with TDS

[SaintsInDome2006 635]

50 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

sorry your guy/gal lost, try to hang on for 3 more years without driving yourself crazy with TDS

Ha right, what I just said notwithstanding. The sky actually did fall.