Heritage Foundation backs Tucker after backlash for Nick Fuentes interview

[TimHauck 3,302]

He reiterates that criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism, I know some here seem to disagree with that.

 

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I don't know who any of these people are. 

[seafoam1 3,409]

anyone care? 

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

anyone care? 

@TimHauck does.

[TimHauck 3,302]

24 minutes ago, Strike said:

@TimHauck does.

Republicans know they need the votes of Fuentes’s followers.  They tried canceling him, but he’s uncancelable.  Seems like they’re now trying to see if they can turn him into slightly less of a POS.

I do think this statement from the Heritage Foundation is yet another realization from influential Republicans that more and more voters on the right, especially younger ones, are not fans of the Israeli government, and especially the US funding them.

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From what I’m seeing (N=1), the popularity of Fuentes is growing. 

[seafoam1 3,409]

so basically, no one cares. Got it. 

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23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Republicans know they need the votes of Fuentes’s followers.  They tried canceling him, but he’s uncancelable.  Seems like they’re now trying to see if they can turn him into slightly less of a POS.

I do think this statement from the Heritage Foundation is yet another realization from influential Republicans that more and more voters on the right, especially younger ones, are not fans of the Israeli government, and especially the US funding them.

That lefty Looney tried to cancel him permanently. You know, like they do when they dont like somebody's opinions. 

[TimHauck 3,302]

13 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

That lefty Looney tried to cancel him permanently. You know, like they do when they dont like somebody's opinions. 

Link to that person being a leftist?  As you can see there are many on the right that don’t like Fuentes as well (rightfully so of course).

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Link to that person being a leftist?  As you can see there are many on the right that don’t like Fuentes as well (rightfully so of course).

cool story. 

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Link to that person being a leftist?  As you can see there are many on the right that don’t like Fuentes as well (rightfully so of course).

Recent history shows that right leaning people don't try to murder those with whom they disagree ideologically. 

That seems to be a predominantly leftist tactic these days. That isn't disputable. 

 

 

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Thanks for confirming the OP is a useless troll

[TimHauck 3,302]

9 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Recent history shows that right leaning people don't try to murder those with whom they disagree ideologically. 

That seems to be a predominantly leftist tactic these days. That isn't disputable. 

 

 

Yes it is disputable.  I’m not saying they were righties but there is less evidence that Tyler Robinson, Thomas Crooks and Joshua Jahn for example were “leftists” than there is evidence that Vance Boelter was a righty.  And of course the fact that Boelter, and the MAGA dude that attacked a Mormon church just to name a couple recent examples,  exist, are counter to your whole argument.

Also, kinda the entire reason that Tucker was getting backlash is that many on the right don’t want to accept Fuentes as “one of them” (again, rightfully so).  If there is one guy that “agrees politically” with a lot of stuff on the right that mentally ill righties might want to kill, it’s Fuentes.

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24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes it is disputable.  I’m not saying they were righties but there is less evidence that Tyler Robinson, Thomas Crooks and Joshua Jahn for example were “leftists” than there is evidence that Vance Boelter was a righty.  And of course the fact that Boelter, and the MAGA dude that attacked a Mormon church just to name a couple recent examples,  exist, are counter to your whole argument.

Also, kinda the entire reason that Tucker was getting backlash is that many on the right don’t want to accept Fuentes as “one of them” (again, rightfully so).  If there is one guy that “agrees politically” with a lot of stuff on the right that mentally ill righties might want to kill, it’s Fuentes.

The fact that you had to dismiss three examples for what you perceive to be "lack of evidence" to support your one "example", and another nutjob, suggests I'm completely right. 

Especially given the fact that the resurgence in politically motivated assassination attempts was begun by people opposed to right leaning ideology. 

Political violence is a tool of the left. If that has resulted in outliers on the right participating in the same despicable behavior, you can chalk it up to a "play by their rules" attitude by those who have had enough of the buIIshit. 

 

ETA: Plenty of Conservatives despised Obama, I dont remember any attempts on his life. 

Plenty of Liberals despised W. Short of one goat focker throwing a couple of sandals at him, I dont remember his life being threatened. 

Political violence is a renewed phenomenon in this country. And it was renewed by the left. 

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12 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

The fact that you had to dismiss three examples for what you perceive to be "lack of evidence" to support your one "example", and another nutjob, suggests I'm completely right. 

Especially given the fact that the resurgence in politically motivated assassination attempts was begun by people opposed to right leaning ideology. 

Political violence is a tool of the left. If that has resulted in outliers on the right participating in the same despicable behavior, you can chalk it up to a "play by their rules" attitude by those who have had enough of the buIIshit. 

Why do you put “example” in parentheses?  Please tell me you’re not an “aPpOiNtEd By WaLz” guy.

So when a righty commits a crime for what can be considered a political reason (IMO, attacking Mormons is just as “political” as allegedly attacking someone for being anti-trans), they’re written off as a “nutjob,” but if a lefty (or at least, someone that the right claims is a lefty) does it, they are representative of the entire left. The hypocrisy is stunning.  Then the blaming the left for a righty committing a politically motivated assassination is a nice touch.  Right out of the @TBayXXXVII playbook.

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Why do you put “example” in parentheses?  Please tell me you’re not an “aPpOiNtEd By WaLz” guy.

So when a righty commits a crime for what can be considered a political reason (IMO, attacking Mormons is just as “political” as allegedly attacking someone for being anti-trans), they’re written off as a “nutjob,” but if a lefty (or at least, someone that the right claims is a lefty) does it, they are representative of the entire left. The hypocrisy is stunning.  Then the blaming the left for a righty committing a politically motivated assassination is a nice touch.  Right out of the @TBayXXXVII playbook.

Let me be clear on this, I think anybody who kills, or tries to kill, anybody, for any reason other than self defense, is a focking nutjob. They're mentally focked up and deserve to be removed from society, permanently. 

I never said these nutjobs were representative of the entire American left. I merely stated that they are responsible for the resurgence in politically motivated violence. 

I don't see how you can credibly argue against that, although I know you'll try. 

Recent history will prove you wrong, however. 

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Just now, 5-Points said:

Let me be clear on this, I think anybody who kills, or tries to kill, anybody, for any reason other than self defense, is a focking nutjob. They're mentally focked up and deserve to be removed from society, permanently. 

I never said these nutjobs were representative of the entire American left. I merely stated that they are responsible for the resurgence in politically motivated violence. 

I don't see how you can credibly argue against that, although I know you'll try. 

Recent history will prove you wrong, however. 

When are you claiming that this “resurgence” started?

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3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

When are you claiming that this “resurgence” started?

2017. When James Hodgkinson shot up Steve Scalise and the Republicans while they were practicing for a Congressional baseball game. 

It had been a few decades since the U.S. had seen a politically motivated assassination attempt up to that point. At least as far as I remember. 

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7 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

2017. When James Hodgkinson shot up Steve Scalise and the Republicans while they were practicing for a Congressional baseball game. 

It had been a few decades since the U.S. had seen a politically motivated assassination attempt up to that point. At least as far as I remember. 

And what other leftist assassination attempts were made in 2018-2023?

I just tried searching in general and I see:

2018 MAGA dude mails pipe bombs which targeted multiple Democrats

2019 white supremacist Christopher Paul Hasson plotted to kill Democrats 

2020 pro-Trump, anti-Obama self-described “antifeminist” attempts to kill Obama-appointed judge, killing her son

2022 assassination attempt on Dem Louisville mayor, but by a BLM dude (so a point for you here)

2024 Trump x2 - I’ll give you Routh, but even he was mostly just crazy on one issue and was a previous Trump voter.  Crooks is really still TBD (well probably never will be determined at this point)

So yeah, I disagree that “the left is responsible for the resusurge in politically motivated violence.” Seems like you have both a selective memory and a bias in declaring that if someone tries to kill a conservative they must be a leftist (but seemingly not the same attitude when someone tries to kill a Democrat).  It’s also interesting you start in 2017 even though there were multiple plots to kill Obama as well as the assassination attempt on Gabby Giffords prior to that, although similar to Crooks, the guy who shot Giffords may not have been really either left or right.

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Hack triggered again!  

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Hack triggered again!  

Just proving @5-Points wrong, but what else is new 

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12 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Let me be clear on this, I think anybody who kills, or tries to kill, anybody, for any reason other than self defense, is a focking nutjob. They're mentally focked up and deserve to be removed from society, permanently. 

I never said these nutjobs were representative of the entire American left. I merely stated that they are responsible for the resurgence in politically motivated violence. 

I don't see how you can credibly argue against that, although I know you'll try. 

Recent history will prove you wrong, however. 

Gabby GIffords was like 8 years before that and I think that dude wasn't either side of the political aisle. 

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1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Gabby GIffords was like 8 years before that and I think that dude wasn't either side of the political aisle. 

Yea that’s my understanding.  Possibly similar to Crooks.

[The Real timschochet 7,405]

Only criticism of Israel that comes from liberals is anti-semitism. Criticism of Israel from conservatives is perfectly fine. 
 

Get it right @TimHauck

[TimHauck 3,302]

27 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Only criticism of Israel that comes from liberals is anti-semitism. Criticism of Israel from conservatives is perfectly fine. 
 

Get it right @TimHauck

Well Fuentes of course is as he admits.  But a lot of conservatives have been saying that Tucker, and now the Heritage Foundation, are anti-semitic as well

 

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14 hours ago, avoiding injuries said:

From what I’m seeing (N=1), the popularity of Fuentes is growing. 

Yeah, that’s exactly the problem.

- No doubt Trump meeting with this neonazi was a major boost to his profile.

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7 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Gabby GIffords was like 8 years before that and I think that dude wasn't either side of the political aisle. 

 

7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Yea that’s my understanding.  Possibly similar to Crooks.

So that wasn't politically motivated, right? Dude was just a psycho. 

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7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Just proving @5-Points wrong, but what else is new 

The next time you prove me wrong will be the first time. 

 

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23 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Republicans know they need the votes of Fuentes’s followers.  They tried canceling him, but he’s uncancelable.  Seems like they’re now trying to see if they can turn him into slightly less of a POS.

I do think this statement from the Heritage Foundation is yet another realization from influential Republicans that more and more voters on the right, especially younger ones, are not fans of the Israeli government, and especially the US funding them.

Bullshiite  You are projecting. The GOP  knows how to fend off and isolate the far right from power, most won’t even engage with them at all. We’re colorblind going for the minority vote to undermine your team, and the race baiters like Fuente are on the outside looking in. And that zoo gets much more toxic than him.
 

Meanwhile, you should look in the mirror. , On the left, it’s impossible to go too far left and not have the mainstream left welcome and capitulate to them. That’s why the center is moving to us while you guys lurch off deep into criminal Marxist terrorist pedo land.

Sh1t humans are only welcomed and empowered on the left while the corporate left media’s search for actual racists and Nazis on a he right turns up nothing. Fuentes is the outside looking in border, persona non grata.

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1 hour ago, 5-Points said:

 

So that wasn't politically motivated, right? Dude was just a psycho. 

What politically motivated assassination attempts occurred from the left between 2017-2023, except for the attempt to kill the Louisville mayor?  Because I named 3 from the right.   I’m not saying the right is primarily responsible, but the left isn’t.

[Voltaire 5,478]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What politically motivated assassination attempts occurred from the left between 2017-2023, except for the attempt to kill the Louisville mayor?  Because I named 3 from the right.   I’m not saying the right is primarily responsible, but the left isn’t.

Aaron Danielson comes to mind. Meanwhile Andy Ngo was badly beaten twice and may well of died if he had not gone into hiding for reporting on antifa. Antifa mostly engages in property crime and low level violence so that sympathetic prosecutors can let them off.

[Voltaire 5,478]

13 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Deep Thoughts on Usha Vance & people named Vivek.

Check your link again please. I get a 'page doesn't exist' message.

[TimHauck 3,302]

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Bullshiite  You are projecting. The GOP  knows how to fend off and isolate the far right from power, most won’t even engage with them at all. We’re colorblind going for the minority vote to undermine your team, and the race baiters like Fuente are on the outside looking in. And that zoo gets much more toxic than him.
 

Meanwhile, you should look in the mirror. , On the left, it’s impossible to go too far left and not have the mainstream left welcome and capitulate to them. That’s why the center is moving to us while you guys lurch off deep into criminal Marxist terrorist pedo land.

Sh1t humans are only welcomed and empowered on the left while the corporate left media’s search for actual racists and Nazis on a he right turns up nothing. Fuentes is the outside looking in border, persona non grata.

I didn’t say they were giving him power, I said they want his follower’s votes.  But to ensure that they are most certainly “capitulating to him.”  Tucker giving him a softball interview of course an obvious example.

Saying the left is lurching into pedo land is ironic considering the current situation with the Epstein files…

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

I didn’t say they were giving him power, I said they want his follower’s votes.  But to ensure that they are most certainly “capitulating to him.”  Tucker giving him a softball interview of course an obvious example.

Saying the left is lurching into pedo land is ironic considering the current situation with the Epstein files…

The term "Minor Attracted Persons" and the people lecturing us all to use it was coined ny the crowd you run, in order to understand them non-judgmentally, lift the stigma, and soothe the burden of their persecution and suffering. We've always called them and seen them as sickos degenerates,, perverts, and freaks, want them to stay as far away from children as possible, and if they act on their urges, throw them in prison for a long time.

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3 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Check your link again please. I get a 'page doesn't exist' message.

Looks like he edited or retweeted. I’ll repost.

[SaintsInDome2006 641]

Fuentes on Usha Vance & people named Vivek.

- This guy’s worse than Duke’s old public profile. 
- Just change the of the party already, leave Lincoln & the great GOPers out of this disgusting mess.

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7 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Fuentes on Usha Vance & people named Vivek.

- This guy’s worse than Duke’s old public profile. 
- Just change the of the party already, leave Lincoln & the great GOPers out of this disgusting mess.

See. This is exactly my point. You won’t find any Republican anywhere who talks like this. Zero. We shut out our lunatics.

Meanwhile every Marxist, every Hamas supporter, every trans lunatic, every black racist…. Not a single one is ostracized from the Democratic Party. They’re invited to all the cocktail parties. It is impossible to be so far left that the Democratic Party won’t embrace you. Look at the warm treatment left wing media honored Assata Shakur’s memory when she passed away ten minutes ago.

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7 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

See. This is exactly my point. You won’t find any Republican anywhere who talks like this. Zero. We shut out our lunatics.

Meanwhile every Marxist, every Hamas supporter, every trans lunatic, every black racist…. Not a single one is ostracized from the Democratic Party. They’re invited to all the cocktail parties. It is impossible to be so far left that the Democratic Party won’t embrace you. Look at the warm treatment left wing media honored Assata Shakur’s memory when she passed away ten minutes ago.

Well except that Fuentes was received by Trump, just got boosted by Carlson, & - actually WTH - the Heritage Foundation for seemingly no reason at all felt the need to have its Director paper over his association with both Carlson & Trump.

About your 2nd point, I think it needs to be pointed out one of those people is in the Trump administration & very high up, Tulsi Gabbard. 
 

But as for the rest of it - historically speaking what happens is that the extreme right & extreme left attempt to create societal breaches by forcing normal people to make a choice. And they will shout things like ‘see the Nazis!’ & ‘look at the Marxists!’ & then that justifies whoever prevails to do whatever the hell they want to do. Of course it would help a hell of a lot for your point, which I broadly agree with, if people like Miller, Martin & Gabbard weren’t running the administration & people like Fuentes & Carlson weren’t weaving alongside of it. You want norms, support norms.

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1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

See. This is exactly my point. You won’t find any Republican anywhere who talks like this. Zero. We shut out our lunatics.

Meanwhile every Marxist, every Hamas supporter, every trans lunatic, every black racist…. Not a single one is ostracized from the Democratic Party. They’re invited to all the cocktail parties. It is impossible to be so far left that the Democratic Party won’t embrace you. Look at the warm treatment left wing media honored Assata Shakur’s memory when she passed away ten minutes ago.

You think Fuentes is being ostracized?  That’s cute.

[TimHauck 3,302]

Roberts’ chief of staff (people are saying he wrote the script) was reassigned then resigned after this.

Also apparently some interns at the Heritage Foundation agree with Fuentes.

https://nypost.com/2025/11/03/us-news/heritage-foundation-in-revolt-over-tucker-carlson-defense-after-controversial-nick-fuentes-interview-footsie-with-literal-nazis/