Ron_Artest 2,496 Posted 17 hours ago Merry Christmas! No new wars! Peace in Earth! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,634 Posted 16 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Merry Christmas! Are you Pro-ISIS now? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 170 Posted 16 hours ago “I warned these t*rrorists that if they did not stop the slaughtering of Christians, there would be hell to pay, and tonight, there was.” “Merry Christmas to all including the dead t*rrorists, of which there will be many more if their slaughter of Christians continues.” 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 170 Posted 16 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Are you Pro-ISIS now? It’s incredible the position they will take because of their TDS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,443 Posted 14 hours ago I think it’s long over due, I don’t think Christmas Day was the right decision, but it did need to be done, a month ago, or two, but trump is a fool. Who calls Epstein friend. Merry Christmas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,204 Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Are you Pro-ISIS now? Gutter only has one religion, and it's TDS. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,277 Posted 14 hours ago Choosing Christmas Day to drop bombs and then bragging about it. How far the morals of this nation have fallen. Here’s a reminder of what decent people once did on Christmas, even during a brutal war. Quote On Christmas Eve 1914, in the dank, muddy trenches on the Western Front of the first world war, a remarkable thing happened. It came to be called the Christmas Truce. And it remains one of the most storied and strangest moments of the Great War—or of any war in history. British machine gunner Bruce Bairnsfather, later a prominent cartoonist, wrote about it in his memoirs. Like most of his fellow infantrymen of the 1st Battalion of the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, he was spending the holiday eve shivering in the muck, trying to keep warm. He had spent a good part of the past few months fighting the Germans. And now, in a part of Belgium called Bois de Ploegsteert, he was crouched in a trench that stretched just three feet deep by three feet wide, his days and nights marked by an endless cycle of sleeplessness and fear, stale biscuits and cigarettes too wet to light. “Here I was, in this horrible clay cavity,” Bairnsfather wrote, “…miles and miles from home. Cold, wet through and covered with mud.” There didn’t “seem the slightest chance of leaving—except in an ambulance.” At about 10 p.m., Bairnsfather noticed a noise. “I listened,” he recalled. “Away across the field, among the dark shadows beyond, I could hear the murmur of voices.” He turned to a fellow soldier in his trench and said, “Do you hear the Boches [Germans] kicking up that racket over there?” “Yes,” came the reply. “They’ve been at it some time!” The Germans were singing carols, as it was Christmas Eve. In the darkness, some of the British soldiers began to sing back. “Suddenly,” Bairnsfather recalled, “we heard a confused shouting from the other side. We all stopped to listen. The shout came again.” The voice was from an enemy soldier, speaking in English with a strong German accent. He was saying, “Come over here.” One of the British sergeants answered: “You come half-way. I come half-way.” What happened next would, in the years to come, stun the world and make history. Enemy soldiers began to climb nervously out of their trenches, and to meet in the barbed-wire-filled “No Man’s Land” that separated the armies. Normally, the British and Germans communicated across No Man’s Land with streaking bullets, with only occasional gentlemanly allowances to collect the dead unmolested. But now, there were handshakes and words of kindness. The soldiers traded songs, tobacco and wine, joining in a spontaneous holiday party in the cold night. Bairnsfather could not believe his eyes. “Here they were—the actual, practical soldiers of the German army. There was not an atom of hate on either side.” And it wasn’t confined to that one battlefield. Starting on Christmas Eve, small pockets of French, German, Belgian and British troops held impromptu cease-fires across the Western Front, with reports of some on the Eastern Front as well. Some accounts suggest a few of these unofficial truces remained in effect for days. For those who participated, it was surely a welcome break from the hell they had been enduring. When the war had begun just six months earlier, most soldiers figured it would be over quickly and they’d be home with their families in time for the holidays. Not only would the war drag on for four more years, but it would prove to be the bloodiest conflict ever up to that time. The Industrial Revolution had made it possible to mass-produce new and devastating tools for killing—among them fleets of airplanes and guns that could fire hundreds of rounds per minute. And bad news on both sides had left soldiers with plummeting morale. There was the devastating Russian defeat at Tannenberg in August 1914 and the German losses in the Battle of the Marne a week later. By the time winter approached in 1914, and the chill set in, the Western Front stretched hundreds of miles. Countless soldiers were living in misery in the trenches on the fronts, while tens of thousands had already died. Then Christmas came. Descriptions of the Christmas Truce appear in numerous diaries and letters of the time. One British soldier, a rifleman named J. Reading, wrote a letter home to his wife describing his holiday experience in 1914: “My company happened to be in the firing line on Christmas eve, and it was my turn…to go into a ruined house and remain there until 6:30 on Christmas morning. During the early part of the morning the Germans started singing and shouting, all in good English. They shouted out: ‘Are you the Rifle Brigade; have you a spare bottle; if so we will come half way and you come the other half.’” “Later on in the day they came towards us,” Reading described. “And our chaps went out to meet them…I shook hands with some of them, and they gave us cigarettes and cigars. We did not fire that day, and everything was so quiet it seemed like a dream.” Another British soldier, named John Ferguson, recalled it this way: “Here we were laughing and chatting to men whom only a few hours before we were trying to kill!” Other diaries and letters describe German soldiers using candles to light Christmas trees around their trenches. One German infantryman described how a British soldier set up a makeshift barbershop, charging Germans a few cigarettes each for a haircut. Other accounts describe vivid scenes of men helping enemy soldiers collect their dead, of which there was plenty. One British fighter named Ernie Williams later described in an interview his recollection of some makeshift soccer play on what turned out to be an icy pitch: "The ball appeared from somewhere, I don't know where... They made up some goals and one fellow went in goal and then it was just a general kick-about. I should think there were about a couple of hundred taking part.” German Lieutenant Kurt Zehmisch of the 134 Saxons Infantry, a schoolteacher who spoke both English and German, also described a pick-up soccer game in his diary, which was discovered in an attic near Leipzig in 1999, written in an archaic German form of shorthand. “Eventually the English brought a soccer ball from their trenches, and pretty soon a lively game ensued,” he wrote. “How marvelously wonderful, yet how strange it was. The English officers felt the same way about it. Thus Christmas, the celebration of Love, managed to bring mortal enemies together as friends for a time.” Gradually, news of the Christmas Truce made it into the press. “Christmas has come and gone—certainly the most extraordinary celebration of it any of us will ever experience,” one soldier wrote in a letter that appeared in The Irish Times on January 15, 1915. He described a “large crowd of officers and men, English and German, grouped around the [dead] bodies, which had been gathered together and laid out in rows.” The Germans, this British soldier said, “were quite affable.” Just how many soldiers participated in these informal holiday gatherings has been debated; there is no way to know for sure since the ceasefires were small-scale, haphazard and entirely unauthorized. A Time magazine story on the 100 anniversary claimed that as many as 100,000 people took part. Merry Christmas and may we all embrace peace and good will to all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,587 Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, dogcows said: Choosing Christmas Day to drop bombs and then bragging about it. How far the morals of this nation have fallen. Here’s a reminder of what decent people once did on Christmas, even during a brutal war. Merry Christmas and may we all embrace peace and good will to all. That was when two Christian factions were fighting. Christmas means nothing to terrorists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,277 Posted 14 hours ago Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: That was when two Christian factions were fighting. Christmas means nothing to terrorists Or our president Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,036 Posted 14 hours ago Wait. It's only a problem because it was done on Christmas? If we had done it any other day you libs would be okay with it? Well I certainly hope we didn't disrupt any Muslim Christmas celebrations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,277 Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, Strike said: Wait. It's only a problem because it was done on Christmas? If we had done it any other day you libs would be okay with it? Well I certainly hope we didn't disrupt any Muslim Christmas celebrations. If your enemy’s religion (or lack thereof) is an excuse for violating your principles? Then you don’t really believe your religion. The dozens of hateful tweets from our President and the timing of this attack tell us he doesn’t believe in Christianity. He just sees Christmas as a time for 8 year old girls to call him so he can hit on them. And to answer your question specifically, there used to be a sense of decency where we would pause even a brutal war for Christmas. I guess based on the 2 responses so far, we have a few people who don’t believe in that level of human decency anymore. Christmas is just another day off of work where we can watch half a dozen sporting events while our leader insults half the country and drops bombs in Africa. Trump went from promising to stop the war on Christmas… to starting a war. On Christmas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,587 Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, dogcows said: Or our president You vote for the party of happy holidays. Spare me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,448 Posted 11 hours ago Choosing Christmas as the day someone chooses to bomb the fk out of people... I can't help but applaud the decision to choose this day to defend Christians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,587 Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Choosing Christmas as the day someone chooses to bomb the fk out of people... I can't help but applaud the decision to choose this day to defend Christians. He thinks we should have waited til tomorrow so more Christians could die. He loves them islamists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,496 Posted 7 hours ago 9 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Are you Pro-ISIS now? 8 hours ago, Mr Fantasy said: It’s incredible the position they will take because of their TDS 7 hours ago, jerryskids said: Gutter only has one religion, and it's TDS. Yes, I support terrorism because I'm against bombing another country on Christmas day. And I'm the one that is deranged. Zero self awareness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,269 Posted 7 hours ago Should have done it the entire month of Ramadan. He really needs to hit Somalia hard and get our money. Maybe New Year’s Day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,496 Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Choosing Christmas as the day someone chooses to bomb the fk out of people... I can't help but applaud the decision to choose this day to defend Christians. Groups monitoring violence say there is no evidence to suggest that Christians are being killed more than Muslims in Nigeria, which is divided roughly evenly between followers of the two religions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,496 Posted 7 hours ago Trump said he defeated isis in 2019. Oh well, I guess Biden reconstituted isis, so now he has to defeat them again. More wars! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,496 Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: You vote for the party of happy holidays. Spare me The guy who previously said he wants all is troops home is now good with bombing people on Christmas. Funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,458 Posted 6 hours ago It’s dumb to criticize acts of war for happening on holidays. I do think they chose Christmas intentionally as a news dump though since a lot of people aren’t paying attention. MAGA of course will fall in line with whatever daddy does, but I can’t imagine this is going to sit well with independents. And before anyone tries to say “bUt wHy Do YoU cArE aBoUt GaZa?”, the difference is the US is funding that “senseless killing” (quote from @blick in a previous thread). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,269 Posted 6 hours ago I hope they gave the operation a cool name like Operation Santa’s Sleigh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,062 Posted 6 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Groups monitoring violence say there is no evidence to suggest that Christians are being killed more than Muslims in Nigeria, which is divided roughly evenly between followers of the two religions. Yes it’s all made up. “Groups”. lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,496 Posted 6 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yes it’s all made up. “Groups”. lol. Nigeria itself has denied the Christian genocide lie by Trump, just as south Africa has. You'd think by now you would realize that Trump lies to you constantly, but you like being lied to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 170 Posted 6 hours ago CAIR says everything is A-OK for Christians in Nigeria Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,062 Posted 6 hours ago Just now, Ron_Artest said: Nigeria itself has denied the Christian genocide lie by Trump, just as south Africa has. You'd think by now you would realize that Trump lies to you constantly, but you like being lied to. Yeah. He just decided to start bombing. And the heads of Nigeria and SA? Surely you’re kidding, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,062 Posted 6 hours ago Just now, Mr Fantasy said: CAIR says everything is A-OK for Christians in Nigeria Muslim Brotherhood too. Can you imagine giving the government of South Africa any credence? TDS loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,496 Posted 6 hours ago Global Christian genocide! Kill all non believers! It's a cult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,062 Posted 6 hours ago Gutterboy thinks South Africa and Nigeria are next to each other. Get a map or a globe. What a maroon. It’s a four day drive. 6 hour flight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,496 Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Gutterboy thinks South Africa and Nigeria are next to each other. Get a map or a globe. What a maroon. It’s a four day drive. 6 hour flight. Are you still drunk? Where did I say those 2 countries are next to each other? Bruh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,657 Posted 5 hours ago God bless Trump and God bless the USA. No matter the opposition to America, liberals will always side with the foe. Yesterday it was Somalia , today it’s Nigeria. Fock off you anti- America, anti-Christian pieces of shiot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,458 Posted 5 hours ago lol at the sheep that actually think this is about protecting Christians 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,496 Posted 5 hours ago Just now, TimHauck said: lol at the sheep that actually think this is about protecting Christians It's amazing how stupid they are. Truly amazing. We're saving Christians, we're saving Americans from drugs. Can't wait until we invade Greenland to save the reindeer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,062 Posted 5 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: It's amazing how stupid they are. Truly amazing. We're saving Christians, we're saving Americans from drugs. Can't wait until we invade Greenland to save the reindeer. It’s all about Trumps ego I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blick 44 Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: It’s dumb to criticize acts of war for happening on holidays. I do think they chose Christmas intentionally as a news dump though since a lot of people aren’t paying attention. MAGA of course will fall in line with whatever daddy does, but I can’t imagine this is going to sit well with independents. And before anyone tries to say “bUt wHy Do YoU cArE aBoUt GaZa?”, the difference is the US is funding that “senseless killing” (quote from @blick in a previous thread). I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. I think I said something the effect that I support any president of any party to use American influence around the world to stop senseless killing. I stand behind that and stand behind this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,729 Posted 4 hours ago The gifts just keep coming! #bestchristmasever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,277 Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Choosing Christmas as the day someone chooses to bomb the fk out of people... I can't help but applaud the decision to choose this day to defend Christians. Nothing represents the teachings of Jesus better than bombing people on his birthday. Trump proved he’s not a real Christian, and everybody cheering for him proves the same about themselves. The party that used to claim it was based on Christian values has proven once and for all that they care nothing about those values. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,269 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, dogcows said: Nothing represents the teachings of Jesus better than bombing people on his birthday. Trump proved he’s not a real Christian, and everybody cheering for him proves the same about themselves. The party that used to claim it was based on Christian values has proven once and for all that they care nothing about those values. You still have time to self deport and collect $3,000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,204 Posted 4 hours ago I learned from AI which learned from Al Jazeera that while Boko Haram often targets Christians for mass genocide, they also occasionally kill Muslims too, so it is complex and nuanced! and the affects both, so it is the same! also Trumpf! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,458 Posted 4 hours ago 18 minutes ago, blick said: I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. I think I said something the effect that I support any president of any party to use American influence around the world to stop senseless killing. I stand behind that and stand behind this. So you’re not a fan of the IDF I take it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,204 Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So you’re not a fan of the IDF I take it? He said senseless killing. Perhaps you meant Hamas, which hides under schools, churches, and hospitals when they aren't raping and burning innocent women and children. But... IDF killed a journalist who might not have been working with Hamas. And blew up an ambulance. It's the same! Moral equivalency! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites