***Official Greenland Thread*** Trump Announces Tariffs on 8 European Nations Over Greenland Dispute

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After Venezuela, Greenland looks like his next target. From NYT subscriber content:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/06/us/politics/rubio-trump-greenland.html

Rubio Tells Lawmakers Trump Wants to Buy Greenland

Secretary of State Marco Rubio has told lawmakers that President Trump plans to buy Greenland rather than invade it, while Mr. Trump has asked aides to give him an updated plan for acquiring the territory, U.S. officials said on Tuesday.

Mr. Rubio made his remarks in a briefing on Monday with lawmakers from the main armed services and foreign policy committees in both chambers of Congress. The same day, Mr. Trump told aides to deliver an updated plan.

The congressional briefing was focused on Venezuela, but lawmakers raised concerns about Mr. Trump’s intentions on Greenland given aggressive remarks this week by the American president and a top aide, Stephen Miller, two officials said.

Mr. Rubio did not go into detail on what he meant by buying Greenland. Mr. Trump spent decades in New York as a real estate developer, and one of his top diplomatic envoys, Steve Witkoff, comes from the same background. Mr. Trump has coveted Greenland since his first term.

Greenland is a sparsely populated, autonomous territory that falls under the sovereign boundaries of Denmark, a member of NATO. Denmark established colonial control over Greenland in the 18th century, and allowed it to become autonomous in the 20th century.

On Tuesday, leaders of six NATO nations joined with Mette Frederiksen, the prime minister of Denmark, to issue a remarkable joint statement pushing back against Mr. Trump’s assertions that the United States should take over Greenland. The nations that aligned with Denmark were Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Poland, all of which are close allies of the United States.

“Security in the Arctic must therefore be achieved collectively, in conjunction with NATO allies including the United States, by upholding the principles of the U.N. Charter, including sovereignty, territorial integrity and the inviolability of borders,” they said. “These are universal principles, and we will not stop defending them.”

“Greenland belongs to its people,” they added. “It is for Denmark and Greenland, and them only, to decide on matters concerning Denmark and Greenland.”

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, said Mr. Trump had not ruled out a U.S. invasion of Greenland

.“President Trump has made it well known that acquiring Greenland is a national security priority of the United States, and it’s vital to deter our adversaries in the Arctic region,” she said in a statement. “The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the U.S. military is always an option at the commander in chief’s disposal.”

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[squistion 2,719]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

What is so funny, outside of the fact you are no longer posting under your alias of Mr Fantasy?

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[Hardcore troubadour 16,252]

I’ve been to Greenland. Landed there on the way back from Norway. 

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This one if for @edjr

 

[seafoam1 3,598]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

After Venezuela, Greenland looks like his next target. From NYT subscriber content:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/06/us/politics/rubio-trump-greenland.html

 

Take a step back peanut.

 

[thegeneral 3,837]

32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ve been to Greenland. Landed there on the way back from Norway. 

Scouting the LZ’s for our sea invasion headed up by Rear Admiral OrangePoopyPants?

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Sure that this is the official Greenland thread?

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[weepaws 3,485]

Is this now the official, official Greenland thread? 

[SaintsInDome2006 888]

14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ve been to Greenland. Landed there on the way back from Norway. 

That’s cool!

[SaintsInDome2006 888]

Greenland is Denmark, which came to our defense after 9/11/01. They are strong allies.

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15 hours ago, squistion said:

Secretary of State Marco Rubio has told lawmakers that President Trump plans to buy Greenland rather than invade it, while Mr. Trump has asked aides to give him an updated plan for acquiring the territory, U.S. officials said on Tuesday.

Rubio keeps trying to shoehorn this derangement into something that sounds like a normal administration. Trump is completely deranged & disconnected from his own State Department, & Stephen Miller is ranting at him within earshot constantly feeding his delirium.

[Fnord 2,718]

Things sure have ratcheted up since the Jack Smith video testimony became public. Nothing about this Greenland debacle makes any sense whatsoever. Trump is saber rattling without having any reason to do so:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/07/world/europe/trump-greenland-denmark-us-defense-pact.html

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President Trump has ridiculed Denmark’s dog sled teams in Greenland.

He has cited mysterious Chinese and Russian ships prowling off the coast.

He seems increasingly fixated on the idea that the United States should take over this gigantic icebound island, with one official saying the president wants to buy it and another suggesting that the United States could simply take it. Just a few days ago, Mr. Trump said: “We need Greenland from the standpoint of national security.”

But the question is: Does the United States even need to buy Greenland — or do something more drastic — to accomplish all of Mr. Trump’s goals?

Under a little-known Cold War agreement, the United States already enjoys sweeping military access in Greenland. Right now, the United States has one base in a very remote corner of the island. But the agreement allows it to “construct, install, maintain, and operate” military bases across Greenland, “house personnel” and “control landings, takeoffs, anchorages, moorings, movements, and operation of ships, aircraft, and waterborne craft.”

It was signed in 1951 by the United States and Denmark, which colonized Greenland more than 300 years ago and still controls some of its affairs.

“The U.S. has such a free hand in Greenland that it can pretty much do what it wants,” said Mikkel Runge Olesen, a researcher at the Danish Institute for International Studies in Copenhagen.

“I have a very hard time seeing that the U.S. couldn’t get pretty much everything it wanted,” he said, adding, “if it just asked nicely.”

But buying Greenland — something that Secretary of State Marco Rubio told lawmakers on Tuesday was Mr. Trump’s latest plan — is a different question.

Greenland does not want to be bought by anyone — especially not the United States. And Denmark does not have the authority to sell it, Dr. Olesen said.

“It is impossible,” he said.

In the past, Denmark would have been the decider. In 1946, it refused the Truman administration’s offer of $100 million in gold.

Today, things are different. Greenlanders now have the right to hold a referendum on independence and Danish officials have said it’s up to the island’s 57,000 inhabitants to decide their future. A poll last year found 85 percent of residents opposed the idea of an American takeover.

Greenland’s prime minister, Jens-Frederik Nielsen, has repeatedly scoffed at the idea of being bought, saying this past week, “Our country is not for sale.”

The relatively short, straightforward defense agreement between the United States and Denmark was updated in 2004 to include Greenland’s semiautonomous government, giving it a say in how American military operations might affect the local population. The roots of the agreement go back to a partnership forged during World War II.

At that time, Denmark was occupied by the Nazis. Its ambassador in Washington, cut off from Copenhagen, took it upon himself to strike a defense agreement for Greenland with the United States. (The island is part of North America, along the Arctic Ocean and close to Canada’s coast.)

 

The fear was that Nazis could use Greenland as a steppingstone to America. The Germans had already established small meteorological bases on the island’s east coast and relayed information for battles in Europe. American troops eventually ousted them and established more than a dozen bases there with thousands of troops, landing strips and other military facilities.

After World War II, the United States continued to run some bases and a string of early warning radar sites. As the Cold War wound down, the United States closed all of them except one. It’s now called the Pittufik Space Base and helps track missiles crossing the North Pole.

The Danes have a light presence, too: a few hundred troops, including special forces that use dog sleds to conduct long-range patrols. In recent months, the Danish government has vowed to upgrade its bases and increase surveillance.

After American special forces captured Nicolás Maduro, the president of Venezuela, from a safehouse last week, Mr. Trump seemed emboldened. Stephen Miller, a top aide, then claimed that Greenland should belong to the United States and that “nobody’s going to fight the United States” over it. Danish and Greenlandic anxiety skyrocketed.

On Tuesday night, Danish and Greenlandic leaders asked to meet with Mr. Rubio, according to Greenland’s foreign minister. It’s not clear if or when that might happen.

Tensions between Mr. Trump and Denmark’s prime minister, Mette Frederiksen, have been steadily rising, as Mr. Trump pushes to “get” Greenland, as he puts it, while Ms. Frederiksen refuses to kowtow to him.

Just a few days ago, Ms. Frederiksen cited the 1951 agreement, saying, “We already have a defense agreement between the Kingdom and the United States today, which gives the United States wide access to Greenland.” She urged the United States “to stop the threats” and said an American attack on Greenland would mean the end of the international world order.

European leaders issued their own statement on Tuesday, also citing the 1951 agreement and saying, “Greenland belongs to its people.”

Analysts said that if the United States tried to use the defense pact as a fig leaf to send in a lot of troops and try to occupy Greenland, that wouldn’t be legal either.

According to the 2004 amendment, the United States is supposed to consult with Denmark and Greenland before it makes “any significant changes” in its military operations on the island. The 2004 amendment, which was signed by Gen. Colin L. Powell, who was then the secretary of state, explicitly recognizes Greenland as “an equal part of the Kingdom of Denmark.”

Peter Ernstved Rasmussen, a Danish defense analyst, said that in practice, if American forces made reasonable requests, “the U.S. would always get a yes.”

“It is a courtesy formula,” he said. “If the U.S. wanted to act without asking, it could simply inform Denmark that it is building a base, an airfield or a port.”

That’s what infuriates longtime Danish political experts. If Mr. Trump wanted to beef up Greenland’s security right now, he could. But there has been no such official American request, said Jens Adser Sorensen, a former senior official in Denmark’s Parliament.

“Why don’t you use the mechanism of the defense agreement if you’re so worried about the security situation?” he said, adding: “The framework is there. It’s in place.”

But Greenland’s strategic location is not the only thing that has attracted Mr. Trump’s inner circle. The enormous island has another draw: critical minerals, loads of them, buried under the ice. Here, too, analysts say, the United States doesn’t need to take over the island to get them.

Greenlanders have said they are open to doing business — with just about anyone.

 

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1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Under a little-known Cold War agreement, the United States already enjoys sweeping military access in Greenland. Right now, the United States has one base in a very remote corner of the island. But the agreement allows it to “construct, install, maintain, and operate” military bases across Greenland, “house personnel” and “control landings, takeoffs, anchorages, moorings, movements, and operation of ships, aircraft, and waterborne craft.”

It was signed in 1951 by the United States and Denmark, 

Trump doesn’t make deals, he breaks them, including his own. Trump made a deal with Venezuela just this spring. He broke it.

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[Hardcore troubadour 16,252]

We’re gonna have that land. 

[cyclone24 1,980]

Wait, wait wait let me guess. The liberals on here complaining about it. I know I took a wild guess there without reading first, but I’m gonna guess they’re gonna whine about it. It’s kind of their default setting.

[squistion 2,719]

From NYT subscriber content:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/14/us/trump-news#section-332871333

Denmark and Greenland left a meeting with Vance and Rubio with no agreement.

Denmark, Greenland and the United States have a “fundamental disagreement” over the future of the territory in the North Atlantic, Lars Lokke Rasmussen, the Danish foreign minister, said on Wednesday after a meeting with top Trump administration officials.

The meeting in Washington — hours after President Trump said the United States “needs Greenland” — was the first among the three governments to discuss Mr. Trump’s desire to buy or take the semiautonomous Danish territory.

Mr. Rasmussen and Vivian Motzfeldt, the Greenland foreign minister, met with Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Afterward, Mr. Rasmussen called the discussion “frank” and “constructive” even as he underscored that Denmark has no interest in changing the status quo.

“Our perspectives continue to differ,” he said. “The president has made his view clear. And we have a different position.”

But, he said, there was also progress: The governments will form a working group, likely within weeks, to try to find a path forward that accommodates Mr. Trump’s security concerns, without violating the territorial integrity of the Danish kingdom or the Greenlanders’ right to self-determination.

And while the Americans did not apologize or back down from Mr. Trump’s threats, Mr. Rasmussen said that he hoped the governments could begin to “take down the temperature” after more than a year of trading barbs on social media instead of meeting face to face.

“We, therefore, still have a fundamental disagreement, but we also agreed to disagree,” he said. “We will, however, continue to talk.” 

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https://x.com/polymarket/status/2011551766538830301?s=46
 

thats not a no by any means….

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1 hour ago, squistion said:

From NYT subscriber content:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/14/us/trump-news#section-332871333

 

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Trump Refuses to Rule Out Military Action Against NATO Ally Denmark Over Greenland

 

[wiffleball 4,800]

Good Lord, what an effing idiot. 

 

[seafoam1 3,598]

17 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Good Lord, what an effing idiot. 

 

Yeah, gutterboy ain't that sharp. 

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[cmh6476 1,197]

I'm hearing the Dodgers are in discussions to purchase Greenland. .

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From my friend Grok:

Trump Threatens 10% Tariffs on Eight European Nations Unless Denmark Sells Greenland

Last updated 39 minutes ago

 

The proposed 10% tariffs, starting February 1 on imports from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the UK, the Netherlands, and Finland, would jump to 25% on June 1 until Denmark agrees to sell Greenland.

 

Trump argues the U.S. needs the Arctic island for national security, including a 'Golden Dome' missile defense system, and claims Denmark can't defend it properly amid interest from China and Russia.

 

Reactions split sharply, with supporters cheering the 'America First' stance and critics in Europe protesting that Greenland is not for sale, as markets watch for trade fallout.

 

This story is a summary of posts on X and may evolve over time. Grok can make mistakes, verify its outputs.

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2 minutes ago, squistion said:

From my friend Grok:

Trump Threatens 10% Tariffs on Eight European Nations Unless Denmark Sells Greenland

Last updated 39 minutes ago

 

The proposed 10% tariffs, starting February 1 on imports from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the UK, the Netherlands, and Finland, would jump to 25% on June 1 until Denmark agrees to sell Greenland.

 

Trump argues the U.S. needs the Arctic island for national security, including a 'Golden Dome' missile defense system, and claims Denmark can't defend it properly amid interest from China and Russia.

 

Reactions split sharply, with supporters cheering the 'America First' stance and critics in Europe protesting that Greenland is not for sale, as markets watch for trade fallout.

 

This story is a summary of posts on X and may evolve over time. Grok can make mistakes, verify its outputs.

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Just now, squistion said:

 

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3 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

I'm hearing the Dodgers are in discussions to purchase Greenland. .

They can have Greenland, but leave Tarik Skubal alone. I'm sick of the five focking clubs that use the rest of the league as their collective farm system.

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Denmark no bueno 

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[HellToupee 2,395]

What kind of ghouls are the Danes

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,252]

Fly some Haitians there. 

[Voltaire 5,554]

I may as well put this out there.

When we elected Trump, I could have given you a couple dozen good solid reasons and Greenland wouldn't have registered a blip.

There's probably good reasons to get it; I'll give him the benefit of the doubt about Russian and Chinese activity in the Arctic Circle. Alright fine, make a play for it.

The Danes are NATO allies. I don't think the Europeans carry their share of the security burden in the alliance but that's another story. I want to make it clear that not ruling out military force when negotiating with an ally is horrible. These are friendly democratic nations, you treat them honorably and with respect. 

I like Trump and if he thinks buying Greenland is important, I can warm up to the idea. I see the point he's making. But even if successful, I do not endorse the way he conducting the Greenland negotiations with Denmark. By all means make your offer to Denmark; make an offer directly to the Greenland  people. But leave the military option off the table. He's poisoning goodwill in Europe for no reason by doing so and giving them a legitimate complaint IMO.