Congress extends Obamacare subsidies

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The House passed a multi-year extension of Obamacare subsidies. The Senate is expected to follow suit.

Why didn’t the GOP just do this in September to avoid the shutdown?  That’s literally the only thing Dems were asking for. 

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Trumps America, losing.  

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6 hours ago, dogcows said:

The House passed a multi-year extension of Obamacare subsidies. The Senate is expected to follow suit.

Why didn’t the GOP just do this in September to avoid the shutdown?  That’s literally the only thing Dems were asking for. 

Probably because neither side wants to let the other side think they're winning. Look at the federal gas tax as an example. That's been at 18.4 cents per gallon since 1993 when it was raised from 14.1 cents. In following years, when we needed money to keep the infrastructure up-to-date, if a Republican suggested raising it, Democrats would say no way, it's a regressive tax on the poor. If Democrats suggested raising it, Republicans would say 'no new taxes'

 

 

 

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These dudes and dudettes want to keep their jobs

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Once again, the "Affordable Care Act" wasn't affordable without tax payer funded subsidies. 

So it wasn't focking affordable in the first place. 

You fockin morons will believe anything you're told. 

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15 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Once again, the "Affordable Care Act" wasn't affordable without tax payer funded subsidies. 

So it wasn't focking affordable in the first place. 

You fockin morons will believe anything you're told. 

That's about it. However, for those with extremely low income, it is affordable. Of course someone else picks up the tab.

 

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29 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

That's about it. However, for those with extremely low income, it is affordable. Of course someone else picks up the tab.

 

So I get to pay for my medical and the rest of these lazy focks' too! 

Yeah,  we told you idiots. 

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VETO it!

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5 minutes ago, NorthernVike said:

VETO it!

He’s going to replace it with beautiful health care. The plan will be available in two weeks!

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27 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

So I get to pay for my medical and the rest of these lazy focks' too! 

Yeah,  we told you idiots. 

That's the way it's always been unfortunately. Just like when my dad's father was in the nursing home for the last six months of his life. He had to pay like $3000 a month, the other guy in the room had every chance in life but pissed it all away. The county (a.k.a. taxpayers) picked up his tab.

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10 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

That's the way it's always been unfortunately. Just like when my dad's father was in the nursing home for the last six months of his life. He had to pay like $3000 a month, the other guy in the room had every chance in life but pissed it all away. The county (a.k.a. taxpayers) picked up his tab.

Sorry to hear that… If we had universal healthcare they both would have gotten the care without paying $3k a month. Not sure why this country still refuses to use this proven system used by just about every developed nation on earth.

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10 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

That's the way it's always been unfortunately. Just like when my dad's father was in the nursing home for the last six months of his life. He had to pay like $3000 a month, the other guy in the room had every chance in life but pissed it all away. The county (a.k.a. taxpayers) picked up his tab.

Yup. That’s the sad truth. You got money you pay. You don’t we pay. 

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2 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

That's the way it's always been unfortunately. Just like when my dad's father was in the nursing home for the last six months of his life. He had to pay like $3000 a month, the other guy in the room had every chance in life but pissed it all away. The county (a.k.a. taxpayers) picked up his tab.

Meanwhile,  my dad,  a lifelong public servant, lays in the hospital in a coma. They will milk his savings and give free medical care to illegals. 

And shitdicks will wonder why we want mass deportations. 

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1 minute ago, dogcows said:

Sorry to hear that… If we had universal healthcare they both would have gotten the care without paying $3k a month. Not sure why this country still refuses to use this proven system used by just about every developed nation on earth.

lol. Canada has it. They recommend something besides a nursing home. 

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You can’t have a welfare state and mass migration.  It can’t work. 

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Let them die in the streets!!

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Not going to stop The Blue Wave.

We take over, impeach and toss this despicable president.

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As of right now 5 million names have been purged from the voter rolls nationwide thanks to Tom Fitton and the patriots at Judicial Watch. I’ve never felt better about donating to a cause. 

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26 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Meanwhile,  my dad,  a lifelong public servant, lays in the hospital in a coma. They will milk his savings and give free medical care to illegals. 

And shitdicks will wonder why we want mass deportations. 

Sorry to hear that  

It ain't right! 

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34 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Meanwhile,  my dad,  a lifelong public servant, lays in the hospital in a coma. They will milk his savings and give free medical care to illegals. 

And shitdicks will wonder why we want mass deportations. 

Sorry about your dad.

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28 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Sorry to hear that… If we had universal healthcare they both would have gotten the care without paying $3k a month. Not sure why this country still refuses to use this proven system used by just about every developed nation on earth.

I'll ask you the same thing I asked you the last time you brought up universal healthcare. Who's going to pay for it ?

That 3K per month when my grandfather was in the nursing home, is now between 10 K & 14 K per month. I can't even begin to comprehend how much it would cost to give 'free' nursing home care to all those in need ?

It sounds wonderful, no doubt about that, but as a nation, we're already 38 trillion in debt, & have another 175 trillion in current/future unfunded liabilities for Social Security and Medicare.

I once read that if you took the top 15% richest people/families in the US, Took all their savings/equities, all real estate, all personal items, etc. It would run our government for about 5 months. What would we do once that was gone ?

Unless you believe in modern monetary theory, which in a nutshell says that 'anything that is technically feasible is financially affordable, because a government that creates its own currency can borrow in that currency and then pay off the resulting debt by creating more of it' has to be one of the most asinine theories I've ever heard of.

Not surprising in the least that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are proponents. Creating money out of thin air to pay the bills, then creating more when the bills come in the following month isn't reality, it's a focking fairytale at best. 

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11 hours ago, easilyscan said:

Sorry to hear that  

It ain't right! 

 

11 hours ago, HellToupee said:

Sorry about your dad.

Thanks fellas. 

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11 hours ago, easilyscan said:

I'll ask you the same thing I asked you the last time you brought up universal healthcare. Who's going to pay for it ?

That 3K per month when my grandfather was in the nursing home, is now between 10 K & 14 K per month. I can't even begin to comprehend how much it would cost to give 'free' nursing home care to all those in need ?

It sounds wonderful, no doubt about that, but as a nation, we're already 38 trillion in debt, & have another 175 trillion in current/future unfunded liabilities for Social Security and Medicare.

I once read that if you took the top 15% richest people/families in the US, Took all their savings/equities, all real estate, all personal items, etc. It would run our government for about 5 months. What would we do once that was gone ?

Unless you believe in modern monetary theory, which in a nutshell says that 'anything that is technically feasible is financially affordable, because a government that creates its own currency can borrow in that currency and then pay off the resulting debt by creating more of it' has to be one of the most asinine theories I've ever heard of.

Not surprising in the least that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are proponents. Creating money out of thin air to pay the bills, then creating more when the bills come in the following month isn't reality, it's a focking fairytale at best. 

The thing is, we already pay for it, it’s just not acknowledged.

We actually pay more than any other developed nation for healthcare. A huge reason for that is all the insurance companies making massive profit on our premiums.

Psychologically, folks seem to get more annoyed when the payment goes to the government than to a private insurance company. But those companies are in it for themselves, not us. And they are rolling in dough by overcharging and denying coverage as often as possible.

This system bled my grandfather’s finances dry after he had a stroke. I want it changed so that getting sick when you’re old doesn’t lead to losing your life AND your life’s savings.

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Sorry for all the stories about getting the wrong end of the stick with this.  And don't mean to put salt on the wound.  But you're also paying for wealthy early retirees healthcare. I'll be getting a decade or more of this cheap insurance before Medicare and only stand to benefit more with extended subsidies.  

I don't feel bad at all though, I paid more in taxes than 99% of the people in the US will in their lifetime during my working years.  Just getting some of it back now.  

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Anybody got a good link to exactly what's in the house passed bill?

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13 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Sorry for all the stories about getting the wrong end of the stick with this.  And don't mean to put salt on the wound.  But you're also paying for wealthy early retirees healthcare. I'll be getting a decade or more of this cheap insurance before Medicare and only stand to benefit more with extended subsidies.  

I don't feel bad at all though, I paid more in taxes than 99% of the people in the US will in their lifetime during my working years.  Just getting some of it back now.  

Very true, and even Warren Buffet gets social security payments every month.

I say if we’re gonna have a Medicare tax and spend it on old people, just raise that tax a bit and have it for all ages.

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4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Very true, and even Warren Buffet gets social security payments every month.

I say if we’re gonna have a Medicare tax and spend it on old people, just raise that tax a bit and have it for all ages.

My post was specifically about wealthy early retirees. Not old people.  

And Warren Buffet is just taking back some of HIS money that HE paid in. 

I say we get rid of spending money on those that don't contribute. 

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11 minutes ago, Horseman said:

My post was specifically about wealthy early retirees. Not old people.  

And Warren Buffet is just taking back some of HIS money that HE paid in. 

I say we get rid of spending money on those that don't contribute. 

None of which goes against what I’m suggesting.

I don’t think it makes sense to have govt-paid care for the old and the poor only (Medicare and Medicaid). Just have it for everybody. It’s already costing us a lot; it should be available to us all.

If you’re poor in the U.S., you get help. If you’re rich, life is great. But if you’re in the middle, it feels like you’re just working to tread water.

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4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

None of which goes against what I’m suggesting.

If you’re poor in the U.S., you get help.

Read much?

20 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I say we get rid of spending money on those that don't contribute. 

 

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2 hours ago, dogcows said:

The thing is, we already pay for it, it’s just not acknowledged.

We actually pay more than any other developed nation for healthcare. A huge reason for that is all the insurance companies making massive profit on our premiums.

Psychologically, folks seem to get more annoyed when the payment goes to the government than to a private insurance company. But those companies are in it for themselves, not us. And they are rolling in dough by overcharging and denying coverage as often as possible.

Let's not forget the role of for-profit health care companies. They play a massive role in this clusterfuck.

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On 1/9/2026 at 2:53 PM, dogcows said:

The House passed a multi-year extension of Obamacare subsidies. The Senate is expected to follow suit.

Why didn’t the GOP just do this in September to avoid the shutdown?  That’s literally the only thing Dems were asking for. 

Where are you getting the BOLD from?  The senate isn't going to pass a blanket 3 year extension.  

Nothing to see here. Yet.  The senate would have to develop a compromise plan, get enough to agree and convince Trump to sign it.   

So to answer your question:  More of the same, nothing getting done.  

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They should keep Obamacare 100% the same but rename it Trumpcare. Don would love it and call it the greatest most beautiful HC plan ever. He’s very vain and sort of a dimwit.  

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53 minutes ago, MDC said:

They should keep Obamacare

It's very popular in Fishtown