NFL Now Admits Buffalo Bills Overtime Pass Was A Catch, NOT Denver Broncos Interception

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[Big Guy 1,440]

DO OVER!!!

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[Big Guy 1,440]

The Bills should sue the NFL!

maybe then they'll get their shix together

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27 minutes ago, edjr said:

 

Cooks left the Saints, joined the Rams, enjoyed the most tragically wrong call in NFL history just to go to the worst Super Bowl, & now fate has bit him in the ass.

[TBayXXXVII 2,699]

Are they wrong though?  Doesn't the NFL say that if you're making a catch in the process of going to the ground, you have to maintain possession throughout the play?  Well, Cooks didn't do that.

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2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Are they wrong though?  Doesn't the NFL say that if you're making a catch in the process of going to the ground, you have to maintain possession throughout the play?  Well, Cooks didn't do that.

The fact that it didn't go to replay is so far beyond - it had to be fixed..

[Hawkeye21 2,481]

It was an interception.  If the ball came out any other way it would've been ruled incomplete.  Why can't people comprehend this?

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

It was an interception.  If the ball came out any other way it would've been ruled incomplete.  Why can't people comprehend this?

His knee was down. donk

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2 minutes ago, edjr said:

His knee was down. donk

He didn't complete the catch.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,282]

The NFL did the same thing to the Giants in the 2002 playoffs. Hey NFL, take your apology and shove it up your ass. 

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3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He didn't complete the catch.

  You do realize the NFL has come out and said the call was incorrect?

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11 minutes ago, edjr said:

The fact that it didn't go to replay is so far beyond - it had to be fixed..

Sure, they should've replayed it... I thought all changes of possession were automatically replayed.  I still don't think they change it.  Like I said, they've hammered in everyone's head, that if you're going to the ground in the process of making a catch, you need to maintain possession throughout.  Cooks didn't do that.  They even say that you need to "make a football move".  What move did he make?  He went to the ground.  There was no "football move".

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It looks like to me he had possession when his knee hit the ground. The defender took it after that. 

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1 minute ago, edjr said:

  You do realize the NFL has come out and said the call was incorrect?

They would be wrong according to what they deem to be a catch.  If the ball came out and landed on the ground instead of it being in the defender's hands, they would have called it incomplete.

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The NFL did the same thing to the Giants in the 2002 playoffs. Hey NFL, take your apology and shove it up your ass. 

The reason why we even have these "catch" rules was because Tampa got screwed in 1999 NFC Championship game.

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2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Sure, they should've replayed it... I thought all changes of possession were automatically replayed.  I still don't think they change it.  Like I said, they've hammered in everyone's head, that if you're going to the ground in the process of making a catch, you need to maintain possession throughout.  Cooks didn't do that.  They even say that you need to "make a football move".  What move did he make?  He went to the ground.  There was no "football move".

You’d make a great NFL referee. No understanding of the rules.

Best part is that it was a turnover, which is supposed to be automatically reviewed… and it wasn’t.

[Mike Honcho 5,608]

I watched the video, saw that made different rulings in other games, but exactly where did the NFL admit to being wrong? 

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9 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The reason why we even have these "catch" rules was because Tampa got screwed in 1999 NFC Championship game.

I remember that. The only saving grace for Teams like the Bucs and Giants is they have won. I’m not gonna deny the Giants caught some breaks But it sucks worse for fans of the Bills that are still looking for one. 

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3 minutes ago, dogcows said:

You’d make a great NFL referee. No understanding of the rules.

Best part is that it was a turnover, which is supposed to be automatically reviewed… and it wasn’t.

It was reviewed, but quickly.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

It was reviewed, but quickly.

By who. The Denver coach?

Another disgraceful showing by NFL officials.

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Just now, dogcows said:

By who. The Denver coach?

Another disgraceful showing by NFL officials.

Reviews are done at their central command center in NY.

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1 minute ago, dogcows said:

You’d make a great NFL referee. No understanding of the rules.

Best part is that it was a turnover, which is supposed to be automatically reviewed… and it wasn’t.

I said it should've been reviewed.

But, in the NFL rules, what I said in the post you quoted, is there.  It's letter "c":

"c) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, clearly performs any act common to the game (e.g., extend the ball forward, take an additional step, tuck the ball away and turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so."

Cooks didn't do that.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,282]

I’d be ok with them doing away with instant replay. 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’d be ok with them doing away with instant replay. 

I think if they're going to replay stuff, everything should be reviewable... even penalties.

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3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I think if they're going to replay stuff, everything should be reviewable... even penalties.

I’d have a couple of eyes in the sky that can make calls. Quickly. Remember what the goal of IR was? If ten guys are sitting in a bar and they all see the bad call then correct it. Otherwise let’s move on with the game 

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25 minutes ago, edjr said:

  You do realize the NFL has come out and said the call was incorrect?

I have yet to find where the NFL came out and said the call was incorrect.  Can you provide this?

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That was a pick. I don't know why there's any controversy over this

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As I said in the other thread after....doesnt have to be a catch.   But just go back and watch Worthy "catch" the ball vs the Bills last year.  Just google worthy catch vs bills.  

You cant pay refs to look at slow mo replays and come to 2 different conclusions on those.  Its not a subjective call.  

We need the league and refs to understand what they call a catch before fans and players.  

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Thornton Melon said:

That was a pick. I don't know why there's any controversy over this

Yep.  It was the football equivalent of Thunderdome - "Two man enter, one man leave" and Denver left with the ball.  

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27 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I watched the video, saw that made different rulings in other games, but exactly where did the NFL admit to being wrong? 

The Adams catch had similarities.   Yet different calls.  Like I said doesnt have to be a catch.  But you cant just have different calls for the same plays.

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4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

The Adams catch had similarities.   Yet different calls.  Like I said doesnt have to be a catch.  But you cant just have different calls for the same plays.

I don't know which catch you're talking about, and am not going to go look for it, but couldn't the call on THAT play have been wrong and the call in the Broncos game been right?

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46 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He didn't complete the catch.

What did you think of Adams in the Bears game.  Different in a way. Did he complete the catch?  And didnt they take time to review it?  

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4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

The Adams catch had similarities.   Yet different calls.  Like I said doesnt have to be a catch.  But you cant just have different calls for the same plays.

Kind of similar but easy to distinguish.  Adams caught the ball before he went down and was down before the ball came out.  I'm a huge Bears fan and can admit that it was a catch.

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

What did you think of Adams in the Bears game.  Different in a way. Did he complete the catch?  And didnt they take time to review it?  

I knew it was a catch as soon as I saw the replay.  No arguments. 

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

I don't know which catch you're talking about, and am not going to go look for it, but couldn't the call on THAT play have been wrong and the call in the Broncos game been right?

Yes.  But if we are paying refs or some dork in NY to review plays in slow mo and come up with 2 different calls...

Then its not a fan or player problem not understanding the rules.  The league clearly doesnt know what a catch is.  Point is you cant have 2 different calls fotlr the same stuff, especially when you are focking looking at a review.   

 

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43 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

They would be wrong according to what they deem to be a catch.  If the ball came out and landed on the ground instead of it being in the defender's hands, they would have called it incomplete.

It felt like an interception. If they would’ve called that a catch, I would’ve felt like they might’ve been right by the letter of the law, but it certainly felt like an interception.

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Kind of similar but easy to distinguish.  Adams caught the ball before he went down and was down before the ball came out.  I'm a huge Bears fan and can admit that it was a catch.

Cooks was down.  Many shots of a knee down.  Whats different?  Adams made a football move?  Thats a football move yet a guy can drop a ball after 2 steps and they call in incomplete not a fumble?  

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You guys have plenty of time on your hands.  

"Worthy playoff catch vs Bills"

"Adams int catch"

They come right up.