ICE shooting (murder?) in Minnesota of Alex Pretti

[thegeneral 3,889]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yes it happened.  Because this guy brought a gun.  And then all you lefties screamed "2nd Amendment!!!!"

Walking around in this situation with a gun is pretty dumb. If you are playing the political game of whatabout however it’s a pretty bad look here. These cops again went way overboard. In this case they disarmed the guy then killed him.

Donald realizes this has gotten out of hand and will calibrate the message for all his fans in short order.

[TimHauck 3,571]

9 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yes it happened.  Because this guy brought a gun.  And then all you lefties screamed "2nd Amendment!!!!"

I’m not sure what your gotcha attempt is here.  Are you in favor of that law in California?  

Regardless, guns are not currently banned at protests in Minnesota.  If they were then it would be fair to criticize Pretti for bringing one.  But they’re not, so it’s not fair to criticize him for bringing one.  And if you do you should acknowledge that Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn’t have brought one either (I’m fine with both).  Edit: actually I retract my earlier statement about it probably not being a bad idea, I think they should be allowed because then it’s just the bad guys who have guns.

 

[Mike Hunt 342]

Rioters trashed a Home2home hotel.  Employees had to barricade themselves in the building.

 

Walz needs to get control of the rioters and tell them to stay home.

[Ron_Artest 2,899]

21 minutes ago, Strike said:

AG of Minnesota argues for restrictions on guns at political rallies:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24/gov.uscourts.ca9.1862ff85-768c-4f01-8cad-d60381885b24.26.0.pdf

You can't make this stuff up!!!!

lil Strike got his new talking point email this morning

[Engorgeous George 2,415]

49 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Sounds like Noem & Bovino just got pushed aside.

Probably not a bad thing.  If she needs a new gig she can dog sit my neighbors dogs.  Those beasts are a nuisance.  Alternatively she can work in my home as a maid, but soon, before her face slips any further.

[SaintsInDome2006 928]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,310]

Facebook? Me? I know I have won when TDS Ron just makes it up. 

[Ron_Artest 2,899]

Walz probably offered him an award

[BrahmaBulls 1,026]

Walz Taco'd

[League Champion 1,998]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

Walz probably offered him an award

A Tampon? 

[avoiding injuries 1,695]

These are the people we’re arguing with. 
https://x.com/defiantls/status/2015842168691466746?s=46

[HellToupee 2,448]

20 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

These are the people we’re arguing with. 
https://x.com/defiantls/status/2015842168691466746?s=46

shouting medic like she’s playing battlefield 

[HellToupee 2,448]

This pink hat guy sounds like the average geek lib to me

 

[SaintsInDome2006 928]

28 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

These are the people we’re arguing with. 
https://x.com/defiantls/status/2015842168691466746?s=46

There’s some debate about what happened here.

I’m not sure where “Kim Katie USA” with the AI avatar & “anti-communist warrior” motto is determining the woman picked up a flashbang because it’s not evident from the video.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,310]

24 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

This pink hat guy sounds like the average geek lib to me

 

Gutterboy and Rusty use the same rhetoric. I hope they see how juvenile they look when they do. 

[Gladiators 2,057]

1 hour ago, avoiding injuries said:

These are the people we’re arguing with. 
https://x.com/defiantls/status/2015842168691466746?s=46

[SaintsInDome2006 928]

Actual Republican.

[dogcows 1,516]

2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Sounds like Noem & Bovino just got pushed aside.

Leavitt confirmed that Bovino is out of MN, replaced by Homan.

Trump wrote a conciliatory message on Truth Social, praising Tim Walz.

This is a massive failure and huge embarrassment for the administration. Idiotic MAGA clowns here defending it though! LOLOL

[Hardcore troubadour 16,310]

17 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Leavitt confirmed that Bovino is out of MN, replaced by Homan.

Trump wrote a conciliatory message on Truth Social, praising Tim Walz.

This is a massive failure and huge embarrassment for the administration. Idiotic MAGA clowns here defending it though! LOLOL

I thought we were cultists? 

[SaintsInDome2006 928]

22 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Leavitt confirmed that Bovino is out of MN, replaced by Homan.

Trump wrote a conciliatory message on Truth Social, praising Tim Walz.

This is a massive failure and huge embarrassment for the administration. Idiotic MAGA clowns here defending it though! LOLOL

Thank you. Bovino leaving is a miracle.

[dogcows 1,516]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I thought we were cultists? 

The talking points didn’t filter down through your podcasts and Twitter accounts yet. For now, it’s just the administration surrendering and you guys haven’t been given the next pile of rhetoric to spew. I give it a few hours to a few days before you’re all on the same page again.

[Fnord 2,758]

Hopefully Walz can take some of the fraud money that found its way into his pockets and hand Homan a couple hundred large. That'll make him go away.

[Fnord 2,758]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

The talking points didn’t filter down through your podcasts and Twitter accounts yet. For now, it’s just the administration surrendering and you guys haven’t been given the next pile of rhetoric to spew. I give it a few hours to a few days before you’re all on the same page again.

It'll be spun as a capitulation from Walz.

[thegeneral 3,889]

1 hour ago, dogcows said:

Leavitt confirmed that Bovino is out of MN, replaced by Homan.

Trump wrote a conciliatory message on Truth Social, praising Tim Walz.

This is a massive failure and huge embarrassment for the administration. Idiotic MAGA clowns here defending it though! LOLOL

Bovino focked up way too much on TV and the dressing like a Nazi wasn’t helping.

I didn’t see Trump’s message but am shocked he would say anything nice about Walz.

WSJ blasting Trump today. Republicans all over the place saying this is out of hand. Donald knows a political loser and this is quickly becoming just that, already was mildly but this one could really get stink on it.

[League Champion 1,998]

Pretti wasn't carrying his concealed carry license at the time of his crime. You have to have it on you whenever carrying. 

[dogcows 1,516]

A veteran and patient of Alex Pretti remembers him with fondness and sadness.

https://people.com/alex-pretti-patient-recalls-being-comforted-and-helped-by-late-nurse-exclusive-11892119

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When Alex Pretti appeared on the local news, Minneapolis Air Force veteran Sonny Fouts immediately recognized him. Just two weeks ago, Pretti was the ICU nurse who cared for Sonny, 71, all night after a major surgery.

“I’m saddened,” Sonny tells PEOPLE of Pretti's death. “I’m saddened to the deepest part of my heart.”

Sonny and his significant other, Kimberly Fouts, met Pretti, 37, on Jan. 12, when the 71-year-old underwent a descending aorta aneurysm repair procedure at the VA Medical Center, where the nurse was employed.

 

[thegeneral 3,889]

6 hours ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Can you tell us what a lezzie looks like so we can understand general?

Bovino yanked from Minneapolis. And you just learned who he was too. 

[Ron_Artest 2,899]

Trump bent the knee to walz.  He knows he's focked.

[SaintsInDome2006 928]

Someone should sound the gajallarhorn as Bovino leaves town.

[Engorgeous George 2,415]

3 hours ago, Fnord said:

Hopefully Walz can take some of the fraud money that found its way into his pockets and hand Homan a couple hundred large. That'll make him go away.

How can I get my mouth to that trough?

[Engorgeous George 2,415]

25 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Someone should sound the gajallarhorn as Bovino leaves town.

Barrup Baruuup.

[Engorgeous George 2,415]

2 hours ago, League Champion said:

Pretti wasn't carrying his concealed carry license at the time of his crime. You have to have it on you whenever carrying. 

A violation which should result in the revocation of his license, not his death.  Of course the reason behind the requirement is in an attempt to prevent misundersdtandings taht might result in negative interactions, including death.

[SaintsInDome2006 928]

Videos and witness statements shed new light on moments leading up to Alex Pretti shooting

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One of the earliest accounts of the start of the protest comes from an unnamed witness who filed a declaration in federal court in support of an ongoing case against the Department of Homeland Security over its immigration crackdown.

That witness, a children’s face-painter who lives in Minneapolis’ Whittier neighborhood where the shooting took place, described getting ready for work when first hearing protesters’ whistles at about 8:50 a.m., records show.

In the filing, the witness recounted driving to the corner of Nicollet Avenue and West 26th Street, toward the sounds, and saw several federal agents and about 15 protesters gathered – including Pretti, whom the witness said was “acting to help traffic move more smoothly.” ICE agents were “surrounding cars and punching car windows,” the witness wrote.

In a statement on X, DHS said that agentsin the area “were conducting a targeted operation in Minneapolis against an illegal alien wanted for violent assault.”

Nilson Barahona, another witness, told CNN that he was at Glam Doll Donuts on the same street when someone fleeing federal agents ran into the restaurant. The donut shop staff quickly locked the doors, and when agents couldn’t get inside, they turned their attention to “those who were outside, who had come to help,” Barahona said. Outside the restaurant, Barahona said observers began making noise and blowing their whistles.

A video recorded by someone nearby and analyzed by CNN shows a group of about ten federal agents gathered outside the donut store, while observers including Pretti watch from across the street. About three minutes before the shooting, two officers walk across the street, confronting Pretti and other observers in nearly the same spot where he was later shot dead.

One officer, wearing a dark-colored jacket and light-brown beanie, is seen placing a hand on Pretti’s torso and pushing him backwards out of the street as Pretti records with his phone. “Do not touch me,” Pretti shouts at the officer, adding, “I am out of the traffic… you are the one who is in the traffic.”

About two minutes before the shooting, agents are seen pinning another observer to the ground and then leading them away. Pretti, who is standing nearby and still holding his phone, appears to yell, “leave her alone!”

Multiple bystander recordings show what happened next, according to CNN’s analysis. Pretti is seen waving traffic by on the street before shouting at an officer, who then approaches him and pushes another female observer. After Pretti moves between the officer and the woman, the officer sprays him with a chemical irritant and pulls him to his knees.

At least six other agents quickly gather, with officers standing over Pretti and pushing him to the ground as he appears to resist them, leading to a scrum on the street. The agent in the light-brown beanie who had pushed Pretti in the earlier video is seen standing nearby.

Another agent, wearing a gray jacket, can be seen from some camera angles reaching into the pile of other officers and retrieving a weapon that seems to match the firearm, DHS says Pretti possessed, before walking away. About a second later, the first of a total of 10 shots ring out, leaving Pretti’s body lying on the ground.

“They shot him so many times,” the witness wrote in the declaration. “I don’t know why they shot him. He was only helping. I was five feet from him and they just shot him.”<<<

- This is an excellent analysis of 9 different videos of the scene of the incident.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,310]

3 hours ago, dogcows said:

The talking points didn’t filter down through your podcasts and Twitter accounts yet. For now, it’s just the administration surrendering and you guys haven’t been given the next pile of rhetoric to spew. I give it a few hours to a few days before you’re all on the same page again.

I used the word “ excessive” yesterday to describe this shooting. Was there a talking point for that? 

[League Champion 1,998]

4 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

the woman picked up a flashbang 

She did. 

WTF was she thinking?