Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 47 Posted October 25, 2014 What are your expectations knowing that PT and Robinson are both out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pee-diddy 27 Posted October 25, 2014 6 receptions-68 yards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted October 25, 2014 Outlook MUCH improved with the news of Robinson out. Starting as flex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saints1 4 Posted October 25, 2014 6 receptions-68 yards That sounds about right but I think he's got a real good shot at one score. So in PPR he's a nice flex start for sure. In standard leagues I think he out scores Cooks or at least gets more touches. Keep waiting for Cooks to get free and bust a long TD but hasn't happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted October 25, 2014 I had him and waived him in PPR like 2 weeks ago. The guy that picked him up plays me this week, and I still think it's hard to start him. Even in PPR, if you have good backs already ... hard even to flex this guy, and that's why I waived him. His floor is too low. Still not enough touches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 267 Posted October 25, 2014 I had him and waived him in PPR like 2 weeks ago. The guy that picked him up plays me this week, and I still think it's hard to start him. Even in PPR, if you have good backs already ... hard even to flex this guy, and that's why I waived him. His floor is too low. Still not enough touches. .. had 9 targets last week, went 6/61 with them. that's 12 ppr, which is none too shabby as i said in an earlier thread, Payton will run his scripted offense, and this kid IS now PT .... simple enough. Ingram/Khiry are no threat to Cadet's role, he will get that ppr/checkdown/screen/dumpoff burn. bank on that. a gimpy Graham helps him more, and you can be sure it will be a shootout Sunday night ... this kid will get his Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxdog 23 Posted October 25, 2014 .. had 9 targets last week, went 6/61 with them. that's 12 ppr, which is none too shabby as i said in an earlier thread, Payton will run his scripted offense, and this kid IS now PT .... simple enough. Ingram/Khiry are no threat to Cadet's role, he will get that ppr/checkdown/screen/dumpoff burn. bank on that. a gimpy Graham helps him more, and you can be sure it will be a shootout Sunday night ... this kid will get his 100% agree......GB is ranked 31st vs the rush, Cadet posted decent numbers last 3-weeks even with Thomas in the lineup ...If Saints fall behind in a shootout, forget Ingram and a cloud of dust, Cadet will be more involved in a all out air-show...........Cadet is one of the best waiver-wire pickups this week..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted October 25, 2014 Many of you guys assume all leagues have 1 point per reception, but many leagues have .5 per reception and of course many leagues are standard, which I think is better because what good is a reception without any yards? Nevertheless, the logic here is that the way Green Bay is playing, they may abandon the run quickly and use Cadet more in check downs. Even without the points per reception he will get the yards, in fact as many yards catching as many get rushing. As always, the question remains- will he go to the house with one or more of these catches or draws? I think he can because G B is soft here. Looking at this from another perspective, he is more valuable this week than most back up runners like Jeremy Hill, Randle, or even Starks. He should be good for 70 yards and the possibility of a TD is there. If you are weak at the flex, he certainly looks better and safer than guys like Hunter, Cooks, and even Reuben Randle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 267 Posted October 25, 2014 Many of you guys assume all leagues have 1 point per reception, but many leagues have .5 per reception and of course many leagues are standard, which I think is better because what good is a reception without any yards? - i am always sure to point out PPR delineation in my chatting up of players ... all 3 leagues i'm in are PPR, so there ya go. guys who play in different scoring systems need to adjust projections/production accordingly ... i think we all realize that uniform scoring parameters are not a given across the board Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglesfreak 10 Posted October 25, 2014 What if you had both Ingram and Cadet in PPR..Who do you start? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted October 25, 2014 What if you had minus one per reception, that way a guy wouldn't get any points unless it was over ten yards? Would that suit your fancy? I would totally play that, but my league is PPR and like I said, my opponent is not likely to start him. He wouldn't make my starting lineup, either. How could it get any better for him than this week? That's why I waived him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted October 25, 2014 What if you had both Ingram and Cadet in PPR..Who do you start? I'm in the same circumstance. I have Ingram in now but I may switch over. Cade'ts floor seems a little higher as he's likely to secure some catches but Ingram is likely get early down work and could secure a few of his own...and probably any goal line. Tough call for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted October 25, 2014 As an aside I don't even see Cadet in the weekly projections here. That should be revisited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted October 25, 2014 The saints just may try to play clock control with ingram to keep rogers off the field. I doubt it matters though since as soon as the packers get the ball they are going to score. Stupid fudge packers and their fudge packery way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted October 25, 2014 i need a huge game from cadet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted October 25, 2014 Not sure it's the right call but I'm sticking with Ingram. They will try and keep the packers off the field and he's a better TD bet. If they fall behind big though that'll likely be all cadet. Game flow may determine this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted October 25, 2014 can you play both, or do you have better rb2/flex options Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted October 25, 2014 ^ Hmm that's not a terrible idea. Forte isn't going anywhere but I could bench K. Wright for Cadet. I have Harvin on the bench too. PPR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted October 25, 2014 i like cadet over wright, not sure about how much love harvin's gonna get this week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 20 Posted October 26, 2014 I just dropped Antone Smith for him. With Jennings hurt / on a bye...I'll roll with Cadet. It's either him or Bryce Brown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njacinto 4 Posted October 26, 2014 For my flex, I need to choose between Cadet or Forsett tomorrow in my PPR... I can visualize Forsett getting more touches and more yards, but for some strange reason, I visualize Cadet turning a short screen pass into a TD in the 3rd quarter (I got this Darren Sproles flashback going in my mind)... Leaning towards Cadet... I'll sleep on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted October 26, 2014 For my flex, I need to choose between Cadet or Forsett tomorrow in my PPR... I can visualize Forsett getting more touches and more yards, but for some strange reason, I visualize Cadet turning a short screen pass into a TD in the 3rd quarter (I got this Darren Sproles flashback going in my mind)... Leaning towards Cadet... I'll sleep on it. that's a tough one, can't believe i'm saying that. I think after seeing forsett continually get pulled at the GL i'd almost lean cadet here. though cadet could face a similar problem with ingram. dam. prob what pushes me over the edge is the likelihood of a much higher scoring game with NO/GB than bmore/cincy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kolp 9 Posted October 26, 2014 I benched Gio for him. Hoping for a shoot out tonite and wasn't feeling the matchup for Gio today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted October 27, 2014 This was a game-flow problem. Who would have expected GB to be blown out and NO have to run Ingram down their throat all night. I have always hated messing with Sean Payton RB's. He gave Cadet one touch in the second half....even when the game was outta hand. Ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted October 27, 2014 thanks for nothing cadet, you pos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted October 27, 2014 Pretty rediculous that 2nd half. I thought after the first half he was headed toward a solid game then he managed to end up with less points than he had with more backs to compete with. Its odd he never gets carries only catches. Will likely drop him this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted October 28, 2014 just realized the saints play on Thursday@Carolina. maybe that's why they were limiting cadet in the 2nd half so he's fresh? perhaps they plan on using him more Thursday. though it would have made more sense to rest ingram in that 2nd half rather than cadet. unless they plan on a different gameplan against Carolina that would include less ground and pound? I think I may hold and perhaps flex cadet for this week's game with Thomas/robinson out again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackjohn 31 Posted October 28, 2014 Dropped Cadet for Randle tonight. If Murray stays healthy, I'll swap back again. I also think the saints were kinda saving Cadet for Thursday. But I've been wrong a lot this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdon 28 Posted October 28, 2014 just realized the saints play on Thursday@Carolina. maybe that's why they were limiting cadet in the 2nd half so he's fresh? perhaps they plan on using him more Thursday. though it would have made more sense to rest ingram in that 2nd half rather than cadet. unless they plan on a different gameplan against Carolina that would include less ground and pound? I think I may hold and perhaps flex cadet for this week's game with Thomas/robinson out again. I don't know... I would be resting Ingram if I was resting someone... my takeaway is that the saints offense has a runnig role and a pass recieving back role... cadet is a receiver and not much more. Shiiit look at Ingrams games this year: when he plays he is a boss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted October 29, 2014 What if you had minus one per reception, that way a guy wouldn't get any points unless it was over ten yards?. Ohhh, I like it... I like it!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 20 Posted October 30, 2014 Anyone starting Cadet? I either have to start him, Gray, or pick up Rainey. Picking up Rainey would mean dropping Cadet or Gray. Thought? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted October 31, 2014 Pierre and Khiry are both inactive and cadet should be well rested due to lack of use in the 2nd half sunday night. Carolina giving up a lot of points to rbs esp pass catching backs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 20 Posted October 31, 2014 Pierre and Khiry are both inactive and cadet should be well rested due to lack of use in the 2nd half sunday night. Carolina giving up a lot of points to rbs esp pass catching backs. Basically relying on him for catches, and it is a PPR which is the only reason considering starting him. Have a feeling Ingram will get the bulk of the work again. Tough call on what to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted October 31, 2014 Decided I'm starting him tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted October 31, 2014 he seems underutilized to me. gets good yardage anytime he touches it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted October 31, 2014 So glad I dropped him after I bought in last week & started in my flex......and then he cost me the game last week by .06 points. Sean Payton has a woody for Ingram right now, and why not? He is running like an animal. Cadet, talent notwithstanding, is an afterthought...even with Pierre and Khiry out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted October 31, 2014 So glad I dropped him after I bought in last week & started in my flex......and then he cost me the game last week by .06 points. Sean Payton has a woody for Ingram right now, and why not? He is running like an animal. Cadet, talent notwithstanding, is an afterthought...even with Pierre and Khiry out. baffling his usage. got more work when they had more rb's available. I've had no fortune at all with waiver rbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites