Hey Newbie, still think Krapernick isn't black balled?

[Bert 1,091]

 

WAS?

 

I guess someone should sign Ladainian Tomlinson.

 

LT's lowest YPC ever was 3.7

 

Rice was 3.1 his last year. SIGN HIM UP!

If Rodgers or Brady did what Kap did they would be signed in a heart beat because they have hall of fame talent. Ray was the same way. Parcells let that drug addict kid focker do what ever the hell he wanted because he was a hall of fame talent. If you are good owners will put up with the BS. If you are mediocre they are not going to put up with the BS. End of story.

[NewbieJr 540]

 

But was okay with Ray Lewis on the team post accessory to murder

 

 

stop embarrassing yourself.

Ray Lewis was already on the team and was/is one of the fans' favorite players. ooops.

[edjr 5,567]

"Blackballed" implies that the owners sat around a dark, cigar-smoky room and agreed that nobody would sign him. Which isn't the case. In this case all of the owners have drawn the same conclusion to date. It's just a semantics argument at this point, with edjr being on the wrong end.

 

black·ball

ˈblakˌbôl/Submit

verb

past tense: blackballed; past participle: blackballed

reject (someone, usually a candidate applying to become a member of a private club)

That means newbie is blackballed from the sanctuary

[NewbieJr 540]

"Blackballed" implies that the owners sat around a dark, cigar-smoky room and agreed that nobody would sign him. Which isn't the case. In this case all of the owners have drawn the same conclusion to date. It's just a semantics argument at this point, with edjr being on the wrong end.

I'm just shocked that Edjr is dumb enough to think that these owners would neglect signing someone they think could help them reach their goal. Just to be part of some imaginary racist pact.

[NewbieJr 540]

He used this same theory when his idol, Barry Bonds, was no longer worth the headache to teams. If you want to be a distraction, it helps to be good. If you're going to be a huge distraction, you're going to have to be great. Simple as that.

[edjr 5,567]

Ray Lewis was already on the team and was/is one of the fans' favorite players. ooops.

 

HA HA HA

 

 

Ray Lewis of the Baltimore Ravens is charged with fatally stabbing two men near an Atlanta nightclub in 2000

Ray Lewis officially signs 7-year contract with Ravens 2009

 

 

 

 

I guess he had a never ending contract too, forcing them to keep him on the team

[edjr 5,567]

Buncha white dudes think this isn't blackballing.

 

Solid

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

Philadelphia Eagles sign Colin Kaepernick 1-year 1.9 million

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...

 

 

Oh sh!t!

[Bert 1,091]

Buncha white dudes think this isn't blackballing.

 

Solid

Another delusional Boston sports fan.

 

Solid

[porkbutt 861]

how about this... if jamis winston did same thing right now...would he be "blackballed"?

[porkbutt 861]

Philadelphia Eagles sign Colin Kaepernick 1-year 1.9 million

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...

 

 

Oh sh!t!

you just scared the livin' sh;t out of me

[listen2me 23 1,542]

Kap has like 3 out of 6 seasons under 60%. The other 3 barely above 60%.

 

He isnt good. His numbers are ok. But his upside sucks. He is still a 1 read run around guy who you have to create an offense for.

 

Not saying Cutler is better but he has ran Gase's offense recently and wont bring a circus to town.

 

Call it blackballed if you want...I just think owners and head coaches dont care to deal with a circus of questions and media.

[edjr 5,567]

Another delusional Boston sports fan.

 

Solid

 

I'm from Boston, I am supposed to be racist.

 

make up your focking mind

[edjr 5,567]

Kap has like 3 out of 6 seasons under 60%. The other 3 barely above 60%.

 

He isnt good. His numbers are ok. But his upside sucks. He is still a 1 read run around guy who you have to create an offense for.

 

Not saying Cutler is better but he has ran Gase's offense recently and wont bring a circus to town.

 

Call it blackballed if you want...I just think owners and head coaches dont care to deal with a circus of questions and media.

 

 

Passer Rating Leaders - Qualified

 

1 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 373 534 69.9 4,944 9.26 76 38 7 37 117.1 309

2 Tom Brady, QB NE 291 432 67.4 3,554 8.23 79 28 2 15 112.2 296

3 Dak Prescott, QB DAL 311 459 67.8 3,667 7.99 83 23 4 25 104.9 229

4 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB 401 610 65.7 4,428 7.26 66 40 7 35 104.2 277

5 Drew Brees, QB NO 471 673 70.0 5,208 7.74 98 37 15 27 101.7 326

6 Sam Bradford, QB MIN 395 552 71.6 3,877 7.02 71 20 5 37 99.3 258

7 Kirk Cousins, QB WSH 406 606 67.0 4,917 8.11 80 25 12 23 97.2 307

8 Derek Carr, QB OAK 357 560 63.8 3,937 7.03 75 28 6 16 96.7 262

9 Andrew Luck, QB IND 346 545 63.5 4,240 7.78 64 31 13 41 96.4 283

10 Marcus Mariota, QB TEN 276 451 61.2 3,426 7.60 60 26 9 23 95.6 228

11 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 328 509 64.4 3,819 7.50 72 29 13 17 95.4 273

12 Ryan Tannehill, QB MIA 261 389 67.1 2,995 7.70 74 19 12 29 93.5 230

13 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 388 594 65.3 4,327 7.29 73 24 10 37 93.3 270

14 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 353 546 64.7 4,219 7.73 59 21 11 41 92.6 264

15 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 364 563 64.7 4,206 7.47 86 18 8 41 91.8 263

16 Alex Smith, QB KC 328 489 67.1 3,502 7.16 80 15 8 28 91.2 233

17 Colin Kaepernick, QB SF 196 331 59.2 2,241 6.77 65 16 4 36 90.7 187

18 Tyrod Taylor, QB BUF 269 436 61.7 3,023 6.93 84 17 6 42 89.6 202

19 Philip Rivers, QB LAC 349 578 60.4 4,386 7.59 59 33 21 36 87.9 274

20 Carson Palmer, QB ARI 364 597 61.0 4,233 7.09 80 26 14 40 87.2 282

21 Jameis Winston, QB TB 345 567 60.8 4,090 7.21 45 28 18 35 86.1 256

22 Eli Manning, QB NYG 377 598 63.0 4,027 6.73 75 26 16 21 86.0 252

23 Trevor Siemian, QB DEN 289 486 59.5 3,401 7.00 76 18 10 31 84.6 243

24 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 436 672 64.9 4,317 6.42 95 20 15 33 83.5 270

25 Carson Wentz, QB PHI 379 607 62.4 3,782 6.23 73 16 14 33 79.3 236

26 Blake Bortles, QB JAX 368 625 58.9 3,905 6.25 51 23 16 34 78.8 244

27 Case Keenum, QB LAR 196 322 60.9 2,201 6.84 65 9 11 23 76.4 220

28 Cam Newton, QB CAR 270 510 52.9 3,509 6.88 88 19 14 36 75.8 234

29 Brock Osweiler, QB HOU 301 510 59.0 2,957 5.80 53 15 16 27 72.2 197

30 Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB NYJ 228 403 56.6 2,710 6.73 57 12 17 19 69.6 194

 

 

 

A Lot Of Players Have A Problem With Ryan Fitzpatrick Being In The NFL

 

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/08/03/ryan-fitzpatrick-tampa-bay-bucs-called-out-nfl-players

 

 

 

You can keep denying the truth. Doesn't change it.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Why did he retire because no one wanted him?

he's better for Miami's system. Kaperneks dumb but athletic q.b. style lasts 1 to 2 years in this league. Once the dumb but athletic qbs have been game planned against its over for them.

[Cruzer 1,992]

how about this... if jamis winston did same thing right now...would he be "blackballed"?

If Dak takes the Kapernick knee Week 1, and Jerry cut him - Steve Bisciotti is on the phone with Prescott trying to woo him to Baltimore ASAP.

[listen2me 23 1,542]

Yeah 59% in thr pass happy cant touch anyone 7 on 7 league. That sucks. Just because he takes no chances has 1 read and doesnt throw many picks doesnt mean much. Tyrod takes care of the ball because he doesnt use the whole field. Bills with a solid roster have went no where.

 

Again not saying Cutler is good what so ever. But wrong situation to march over. Gase and Cutler are butt buddies. If it was a different team then maybe people could talk.

 

Maybe he is blackballed like Tebow eventually was. But lets not act like he is good what so ever.

[Bert 1,091]

 

 

 

Passer Rating Leaders - Qualified

 

 

A Lot Of Players Have A Problem With Ryan Fitzpatrick Being In The NFL

 

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/08/03/ryan-fitzpatrick-tampa-bay-bucs-called-out-nfl-players

 

 

 

You can keep denying the truth. Doesn't change it.

 

Where did Ryan disrespect the country, make racist remarks and become the biggest none sports story in sports for weeks on end?

[edjr 5,567]

Where did Ryan disrespect the country, make racist remarks and become the biggest none sports story in sports for weeks on end?

 

your racism is showing

 

Why didn't San Fran cut him immediately?

 

Would have nipped this whole thing in the bud

[NewbieJr 540]

Philadelphia Eagles sign Colin Kaepernick 1-year 1.9 million

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...

 

 

Oh sh!t!

Although this is just a joke, if Carson Wentz suffers a season ending injury, I could see the Birds kicking the tires. If a team is in dire need of a quarterback, suddenly the 'blackballing' will be over. Supply and demand. Funny how that works.

[Mike Honcho 4,035]

I'm just shocked that Edjr is dumb enough to think that these owners would neglect signing someone they think could help them reach their goal. Just to be part of some imaginary racist pact.

 

 

Disagree. For the most part the owners are businessman first and if Kaep and while signing him probably doesn't hurt your team, your gate or your ratings...the sponsors feel it in terms of product boycotts and bad publicity, and they start walking from team sponsorships. That's why it took so long to sign him, Steve Bisciotti was worried about all the local ad dollars that headache might cost him.

[NewbieJr 540]

 

 

Disagree. For the most part the owners are businessman first and if Kaep and while signing him probably doesn't hurt your team, your gate or your ratings...the sponsors feel it in terms of product boycotts and bad publicity, and they start walking from team sponsorships. That's why it took so long to sign him, Steve Bisciotti was worried about all the local ad dollars that headache might cost him.

I agree with everything you said except the first word. You do agree with me.

[Bert 1,091]

 

your racism is showing

 

Why didn't San Fran cut him immediately?

 

Would have nipped this whole thing in the bud

How is it racism? As an owner I am not about to risk sponsor dollars over a mediocre player.

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

edjr substituting for Sho today?

[vuduchile 1,941]

"Blackballed" implies that the owners sat around a dark, cigar-smoky room and agreed that nobody would sign him. Which isn't the case. In this case all of the owners have drawn the same conclusion to date. It's just a semantics argument at this point, with edjr being on the wrong end.

Right. I highly doubt all owners made a secret pact to keep him out of the league.

[NewbieJr 540]

edjr substituting for Sho today?

definitely one of his most embarrassing moments. He's getting slaughtered here.

[listen2me 23 1,542]

Why did Tebow quit getting chances after he won a playoff game and had a winning record?

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

Why did Tebow quit getting chances after he won a playoff game and had a winning record?

 

He got white mailed, duh.

[Bert 1,091]

 

He got white mailed, duh.

[edjr 5,567]

Why did Tebow quit getting chances after he won a playoff game and had a winning record?

 

 

no teams brought Tebow into Camp after his playoff season He was given multiple chances

 

Kap hasn't even made it into a camp yet.

[Bert 1,091]

 

 

no teams brought Tebow into Camp after his playoff season He was given multiple chances

 

Kap hasn't even made it into a camp yet.

God is less controversial than racist misinformation about cops?

[cyclone24 1,814]

God is less controversial than racist misinformation about cops?

This.....times a million.

[WhiteWonder 2,172]

Ed...

 

someone mentioned Ray Lewis and you responded talking about Ray Rice, just an FYI.

 

 

 

but back to our Ray Rice convo, you are dead on. Rice was not worth the headache, despite the effort he put in to better himself in the public eye because he was an almost 30 year old RB with tons of mileage and coming off a terrible season.

 

Kaepernick is not a game changing QB anymore.

 

While I agree that Kaepernick is better than many back-ups and may be worthy of a 2nd string job, no team whose starter is WORSE is likely in a position where signing Kaepernick to the team will benefit them in any way.

 

I'll use my Jets as an example. Why would they wan't to bring in Kaepernick, after all the Tebow nonsense and after getting rid of most of their veterans in an obvious move to clean house and go young? Their players will play hard but the organization doesn't want to win this year. So even though Kaepernick is better than McCown, Petty, Hackenberg... what would winning an extra 2-3 games accomplish for the Jets? McCown is there as stable veteran leadership for Petty and Hackenberg who likely wont amount to anything but you still want a veteran in the QB room. Kaepernick doesn't really fill that leadership role.

 

So if he doesn't fill a leadership role, brings potential baggage and doesn't offer legitimate playoff hopes to teams with lesser starting QBs then why does he need to have a job?

[listen2me 23 1,542]

Would Kap demand decent money if he were a backup? O4 would he sign any deal? Seems like he would be an expensive backup and it is already preseason.

[edjr 5,567]

Ed...

 

someone mentioned Ray Lewis and you responded talking about Ray Rice, just an FYI.

 

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=467740&p=5992368

[kilroy69 994]

It is quite simple. If he was being blackballed the NFLPA would be stepping in and filing a lawsuit on his behalf. Their only job is to back their players. Do you see such a lawsuit?

[edjr 5,567]

It is quite simple. If he was being blackballed the NFLPA would be stepping in and filing a lawsuit on his behalf. Their only job is to back their players. Do you see such a lawsuit?

 

 

training camp just started.

 

it's far too early for any of that.

 

that will come after he retires, should he never be signed.

 

you don't sue while still trying to get a job

[WhiteWonder 2,172]

Ray was a pro bowl talent. Kap is a dime a dozen QB. Sorry you refuse to see the difference.

 

was talking about Ray Lewis

 

 

WAS?

 

I guess someone should sign Ladainian Tomlinson.

 

LT's lowest YPC ever was 3.7

 

Rice was 3.1 his last year. SIGN HIM UP!

[listen2me 23 1,542]

This is what we mean when we say that there are non-football factors that contribute to Colin Kaepernick being unsigned. The Miami Dolphins needed a quarterback when Ryan Tannehill went down with the knee injury this past week. Colin Kaepernick was still unsigned. He has a big arm, is similarly mobile as Tannehill. He has played in the playoffs. He has the skill to be an NFL quarterback. The Ravens were considering picking him up. However, Kaepernick wouldn't fit in Miami due to comments he made way back in November to Maimi Herald's Armando Salguero after wearing a shirt with Malcolm X and Fidel Castro prominently displayed.

 

 

[WhiteWonder 2,172]

 

 

why would the Dolphins sign Kaepernick OVER Jay Cutler who ran Adam Gase's offense in Chicago and had his best years under Gase?

 

Does Kaep fit Gase's offense?

 

people just want any vacancy to be filled by Kaepernick regardless of the fit