Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Strike said: That would be a good start. But I have to ask you the same question. Where did those numbers come from? The aggregate is his 5.7B but why did you apportion it the way you did? From the interview I saw congress went to the border patrol and said what do you need? They asked for the 5.7B for the top ten problem areas. Why are you better equipped to know how the money should be spent than them? Let's get rid of the politics, acknowledge the problem, and do what needs to be done to fix it. And who better to help guide that process then the border patrol? I pulled the numbers out of my ass. I used them as an example of hitting the key points. You can move around a half-a-billion here and there, but having us spend $6B or so on making these improvements would be better than saying we just need $5.7B for the wall (for now). Heck, where did Trump get his numbers from because the number has changed over the last several years so many times that I can't follow? The point is that we split up the money to have it make improvements in several areas of need rather than focusing on a single area (which just so happens to be Trump's talking point). Look at it as a win-win for both sides (or lose-lose if that floats your boat). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: I pulled the numbers out of my ass. I used them as an example of hitting the key points. You can move around a half-a-billion here and there, but having us spend $6B or so on making these improvements would be better than saying we just need $5.7B for the wall (for now). Heck, where did Trump get his numbers from because the number has changed over the last several years so many times that I can't follow? The point is that we split up the money to have it make improvements in several areas of need rather than focusing on a single area (which just so happens to be Trump's talking point). Look at it as a win-win for both sides (or lose-lose if that floats your boat). I just told you where the 5.7B number came from. Did you not read my post???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Strike said: I just told you where the 5.7B number came from. Did you not read my post???? I missed the link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted February 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Dude, you need to research this lady and some of the things she has said. You'll walk this back faster than the Empire guy is with his story. Man, all that happened is 90s said she is gross, and I said I think she is good looking. This is the Geek Club. We’ve probably had threads in which a women killed her own children, and we all agreed she was hot enough for a conjugal visit. I guess since this is politics, I can’t just say she is pretty. And I’m sure if I went back to the AOC threads, nobody gave any opinions on her looks. And if with go to the Tomi Lahren threads, we all stated that she is either disgusting or gorgeous because of her racist or non racist beliefs. Point being, if I saw her at a bar and she smiled at me, I’m ordering us each a Manhattan and asking her if she wants to split some bacon wrapped stuffed jalapeños. If during the course of the next 2 hours I determine her to be vile, then I guess my next action would depend on how many cocktails I’ve had, but I probably wouldn’t court her long term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, cbfalcon said: Point being, if I saw her at a bar and she smiled at me, I’m ordering us each a Manhattan and asking her if she wants to split some bacon wrapped stuffed jalapeños. If during the course of the next 2 hours I determine her to be vile, then I guess my next action would depend on how many cocktails I’ve had, but I probably wouldn’t court her long term. You be better off going with a Jägerbomb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted February 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: https://goo.gl/images/pSKKDq https://goo.gl/images/zjeuc8 Gorgeous in my opinion there's no accounting for taste Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted February 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: I missed the link. Here you go (I apologize in advance for the source but the interview is good): https://video.foxnews.com/v/5998400723001/?playlist_id=5410209611001#sp=show-clips Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted February 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: Man, all that happened is 90s said she is gross, and I said I think she is good looking. This is the Geek Club. We’ve probably had threads in which a women killed her own children, and we all agreed she was hot enough for a conjugal visit. I guess since this is politics, I can’t just say she is pretty. And I’m sure if I went back to the AOC threads, nobody gave any opinions on her looks. And if with go to the Tomi Lahren threads, we all stated that she is either disgusting or gorgeous because of her racist or non racist beliefs. Point being, if I saw her at a bar and she smiled at me, I’m ordering us each a Manhattan and asking her if she wants to split some bacon wrapped stuffed jalapeños. If during the course of the next 2 hours I determine her to be vile, then I guess my next action would depend on how many cocktails I’ve had, but I probably wouldn’t court her long term. I don't think she'd appreciate the bacon wrapped jalapenos. HTH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 6, 2019 https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/02/06/nolte-the-medias-9-worst-fact-checks-of-trumps-state-of-the-union/ Media's Top 9 Fact Check Fails from last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josh wiley 27 Posted February 6, 2019 hadn't seen any mention of the withdrawal from the treaty agreement with russia. where do the geeks stand on this development? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, josh wiley said: hadn't seen any mention of the withdrawal from the treaty agreement with russia. where do the geeks stand on this development? Meh. The Russians haven't been adhering to the treaty anyway, so better to give us options. I think it is probably a good move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted February 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, josh wiley said: hadn't seen any mention of the withdrawal from the treaty agreement with russia. where do the geeks stand on this development? I am for it, Russia doesn't follow the treaty, and are trying to advance nuclear with the help of China, we need to be prepared Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 6, 2019 30 minutes ago, Strike said: Here you go (I apologize in advance for the source but the interview is good): https://video.foxnews.com/v/5998400723001/?playlist_id=5410209611001#sp=show-clips That tells me that they asked the Border Patrol what it would take to secure the top 10 areas where they need a wall. The Border Patrol (not builders, mind you) said that they needed $5.7B to build walls there. No where does Graham say that the Border Patrol said that, if they had $5.7B, they would use it all to build walls only. Walls are part of the solution, but not the only part of the solution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, josh wiley said: hadn't seen any mention of the withdrawal from the treaty agreement with russia. where do the geeks stand on this development? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted February 6, 2019 52 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/02/06/nolte-the-medias-9-worst-fact-checks-of-trumps-state-of-the-union/ Media's Top 9 Fact Check Fails from last night. Yeah that article, like some of the "fact checkers" sucks too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,205 Posted February 6, 2019 30 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: That tells me that they asked the Border Patrol what it would take to secure the top 10 areas where they need a wall. The Border Patrol (not builders, mind you) said that they needed $5.7B to build walls there. No where does Graham say that the Border Patrol said that, if they had $5.7B, they would use it all to build walls only. Walls are part of the solution, but not the only part of the solution. So... Border Patrol asked for $5.7B to build walls in strategic areas, and your objection is that we should allocate more for other border protection efforts? Maybe it has happened, but presuming not, isn't this an example of the perfect being the enemy of the good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, jerryskids said: So... Border Patrol asked for $5.7B to build walls in strategic areas, and your objection is that we should allocate more for other border protection efforts? Maybe it has happened, but presuming not, isn't this an example of the perfect being the enemy of the good? No, you missed the question. They asked them, "How much would it cost to put walls up in the 10 most appropriate areas?" Border patrol says, "$5.7B". Talk about a leading question. If the question had been, "How much money would it take to make an improvement this year in our border security across the entire country and where would you spend it?" then that would be a fair and appropriate question. My guess is that they would not spend all of their money on Border Walls. Perfect being the enemy of good is never appropriate with our government. They are never perfect and are hardly good, particularly when it comes to spending money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 7, 2019 Dunno if this posted yet. They're calling all the chicks in white "straight jackets" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,335 Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, wiffleball said: Dunno if this posted yet. They're calling all the chicks in white "straight jackets" I'd let some of them jack me straight 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 7, 2019 6 hours ago, SUXBNME said: I'd let some of them jack me straight There isn’t any woman hot enough or strong enough to make you straight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted February 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: There isn’t any woman hot enough or strong enough to make you straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites