cmh6476 1,025 Posted July 23, 2007 i mean they hired the worst head coach in the history of the league. I don't care how many offensive weapons the team has, they are going nowhere fast. sorry bout it jahrasta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HalasHall 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Actually, I think they just fired the worst coach in the history of the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted July 23, 2007 i mean they hired the worst head coach in the history of the league. I don't care how many offensive weapons the team has, they are going nowhere fast. sorry bout it jahrasta haha, the best part is that if it wasn't obvious enough that this was addressed towards me, you had to come out and name me. i'd be more concerned with the raiders at this point if i were you. KC is definitely a candidate for the cellar this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted July 23, 2007 They are still a good team, but I cant see them beating Indy or New England in the playoffs. They better hope they get home field advantage. That might help a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted July 23, 2007 i mean they hired the worst head coach in the history of the league. I don't care how many offensive weapons the team has, they are going nowhere fast. sorry bout it jahrasta How does having the best overall and offensive player in football, and the best and most dominating defensive player in football get you nowhere fast? They have talent all over the field. O-line is great. Very good young QB. Best RB and TE in football. Big, physical WRs and a potential impact rookie to throw to. D-line is just as good, especially for the 3-4. The linebackers are incredible, and with Merriman to free the rest of them up, they become even better. Granted, the secondary needs a little work, but I can't see how you can argue they're any less solid than the Colts or Pats DBs really. If they aren't in the Superbowl this year, it's because they're in the AFC. I'm sure there are quite a few teams who would love to be in the Chargers position of "going nowhere fast" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted July 23, 2007 Chargers are a top 3 team in the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,250 Posted July 23, 2007 watch out for vincent jackson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted July 23, 2007 The Chargers will challenge for the AFC Championship this year. Top D, up and coming QB, best RB/TE in the league, solid OL--they are good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted July 23, 2007 you all are kinda making my point for me. Sure they have a talented team, but talent gets you nowhere without solid coaching, which the Chargers do not have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElwayFan 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Such great talent on the Chargers, to bad Norv is going to ruin them. He is a good off guy, but as a head coach he sucks. He has proved it already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted July 24, 2007 you all are kinda making my point for me. Sure they have a talented team, but talent gets you nowhere without solid coaching, which the Chargers do not have Tony Dungy can't coach and he won an SB. John Gruden can barely tie his shoes and he won an SB. your point is null Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,250 Posted July 24, 2007 John Gruden can barely tie his shoes and he won an SB. your point is null He scares people with his chucky like face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ER MAN 0 Posted July 24, 2007 Such great talent on the Chargers, to bad Norv is going to ruin them. He is a good off guy, but as a head coach he sucks. He has proved it already. Look, I'm not saying Turner is an awesome coach but look what he had in Oakland and Washington. Those 2 franchises still don't have a clue as to how to build a winner nor did they surround Turner with a lot of talent. You could take all of the talent he had in Oakland and Washington combined and you couldn't get what he has now in SD. If he somehow manages to screw up the Chargers, then he never should be a head coach in the NFL again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElwayFan 0 Posted July 24, 2007 Didnt they open up the payroll with Turner as the HC in Washington? He showed it then he can't handle the big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cblue 0 Posted July 24, 2007 Look, I'm not saying Turner is an asweome coach but look what he had in Oakland and Washington. Those 2 franchises still don't have a clue as to how to build a winner nor did they surround Turner with a lot of talent. You could take all of the talent he had in Oakland and Washington combined and you couldn't get what he has now in SD. If he somehow manages to screw up the Chargers, then he never should be a head coach in the NFL again. I agree, Bellichek and the Tuna could not have done much better in Oakland or Washington. Oakland is Oakland, they had almost no talent. And Washington's roster was full of over-paid players who were way, way past their prime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted July 24, 2007 Such great talent on the Chargers, to bad Norv is going to ruin them. He is a good off guy, but as a head coach he sucks. He has proved it already. Barry Switzer...nuff said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted July 24, 2007 Another thing I would point out is that I don't think Philip Rivers is all that good. He started off very well last year, but got worse as the year went on and was pretty bad in the playoffs. Without having LT to take all the focus from the defense, I think we would find that Rivers is average at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted July 24, 2007 Another thing I would point out is that I don't think Philip Rivers is all that good. He started off very well last year, but got worse as the year went on and was pretty bad in the playoffs. Without having LT to take all the focus from the defense, I think we would find that Rivers is average at best. show me stats if you wanna come with some bullshit like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted July 24, 2007 Look at his completion percentages from last season. It started off phenomenal, but got worse and worse as the year went on. In December and in the playoffs he was only completing just over 50% of his passes. That is not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted July 24, 2007 Look at his completion percentages from last season. It started off phenomenal, but got worse and worse as the year went on. In December and in the playoffs he was only completing just over 50% of his passes. That is not good. good enough to win games also in december the weather is worse than say september. the game we played against seattle was pouring like a mofo, his completion percentage was only 30%, that drives the average down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted July 24, 2007 until further notice: IND > NE > SD However, in '07 SD has NINE games against inexperienced QBs*** (Cutler x2, Croyle x2, Russel x2, T Jackson, M Schaub, V Young). AND in '07, SD will not be without Merriman for the first 4 games of the season. My point being... no matter how much you dislike the Chargers, they are not over-rated. They could easily repeat as the NFL sack leaders and against that group of QBs, mayhem, panic, and turnovers will be plentiful. SD is the #3 team in the dominant AFC right now and from both a real and fantasy standpoint, their defense is going to kick some serious ass in the upcoming season. *** and, if you prefer, make it TEN and add Rex Grossman to the list of QBs SD may feast on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 0 Posted July 24, 2007 you all are kinda making my point for me. Sure they have a talented team, but talent gets you nowhere without solid coaching, which the Chargers do not have ...says the fan of the team coached by Herm Edwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted July 24, 2007 Turner did a great job turning around SF... this is a different story in SD, but the guy knows how to run the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted July 24, 2007 It's hard to say they are overrated but honestly I must agree. They have got more hype with less accomplished then any team in recent memory. The name of the game isn't "set rushing records" or have "hype our players". The name of the game is Football and as far as I can tell this current core of players has only won 2 really huge games. The game when they beat Indy and ended the undefeated streak. The game when they beat the snot out of the Patriots in Foxboro and ended our home winning streak. I can not see this team winning the SuperBowl this year with a 2nd year QB and a completely new coaching staff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowman 4 Posted July 24, 2007 Tony Dungy can't coach and he won an SB.John Gruden can barely tie his shoes and he won an SB. your point is null Yes but now he wears loofers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted July 24, 2007 The name of the game isn't "set rushing records" or have "hype our players". ummmm....... what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted July 24, 2007 Two words: Norv Turner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted July 24, 2007 Two words: Norv Turner two words: hideous wife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 996 Posted July 24, 2007 i mean they hired the worst head coach in the history of the league. I'll NEVER understand why San Diego fired Marty Schottenheimer (after a 14-2 season) in favor of Mr. journeyman coach Norv Turner. I don't know if they'll suck this year, but they deserve to lose after that boneheaded decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted July 24, 2007 two words: hideous wife. You still got nothing, Lurch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted July 24, 2007 I'll NEVER understand why San Diego fired Marty Schottenheimer (after a 14-2 season) in favor of Mr. journeyman coach Norv Turner. I don't know if they'll suck this year, but they deserve to lose after that boneheaded decision. Marty made the decision for them. He lets all of his coordinators walk without even a word. Then starts trying to hire his brother, something Spanos told him from day 1 as the Chargers coach that he couldn't do, he tried. It's fairly obvious when reading through the lines that Marty wanted out of there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inspiration 0 Posted July 24, 2007 ...says the fan of the team coached by Herm Edwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 996 Posted July 24, 2007 Marty made the decision for them. He lets all of his coordinators walk without even a word. Then starts trying to hire his brother, something Spanos told him from day 1 as the Chargers coach that he couldn't do, he tried. It's fairly obvious when reading through the lines that Marty wanted out of there. Like you're saying, there had to be something going on behind the scenes. What franchise would fire a 14-2 head coach for simply losing a 2nd round playoff game to a very good opponet? That's just nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted July 24, 2007 Like you're saying, there had to be something going on behind the scenes. What franchise would fire a 14-2 head coach for simply losing a 2nd round playoff game to a very good opponet? That's just nuts. Well AJ Smith and Schottenheimer weren't even on speaking terms. The last couple years they've been doing childish ###### back and forth to piss each other off. For instance: Smith shipping Cleo Lemon, who was Schotty's guy, without even consulting Marty. And then the end of the 2005 season when we were out of playoff contention, AJ Smith wanted to see Rivers start that last game, but Marty started Brees instead which ultimately led to him getting hurt. Another thing is that Marty made the big decisions, but gave Cam control of the offense and Wade control of the defense, when both Cam and Wade walked, our front office had to have known that Marty wouldn't be as successful. Say all you will about Norv's track record with 2 shitty teams, but I'm excited to have him as the head coach. Now we won't play pussyball, which led to our only 2 losses of last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted August 14, 2007 Teams ought to just throw their best corner on Gates, much like the Broncos do sometimes with Champ Bailey going against Gonzo. I mean look at their damn receiving corps, Vincent jackson, Craig Davis, Kassim Osgood and Lagedu Naenee? then stack 8 in the box and just focus on shutting down LT and make Rivers beat you, cause I don't think he can. Any pressure at all and the guy seems to fold to me. Sure that defense is solid, maybe one of the better D's in the game. But defense is only going to win you so many games. And not to mention all the turnover at the coaching positions. This team will be lucky to make the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 0 Posted August 14, 2007 Sure that defense is solid, maybe one of the better D's in the game. But defense is only going to win you so many games. and WE don't know football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted August 14, 2007 and WE don't know football. defense is all we ever had in the 90s. Sure it got us to the playoffs a lot, but that was about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted August 14, 2007 Teams ought to just throw their best corner on Gates, much like the Broncos do sometimes with Champ Bailey going against Gonzo. I mean look at their damn receiving corps, Vincent jackson, Craig Davis, Kassim Osgood and Lagedu Naenee? then stack 8 in the box and just focus on shutting down LT and make Rivers beat you, cause I don't think he can. Any pressure at all and the guy seems to fold to me. Sure that defense is solid, maybe one of the better D's in the game. But defense is only going to win you so many games. And not to mention all the turnover at the coaching positions. This team will be lucky to make the playoffs. You forgot Malcom Floyd. You clearly only know about your own team, so why don't you stick with your asinine predictions about them. Chargers are a lock for the playoffs. I'll never post here again if they don't make it. What are you gonna do when they make it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JahRasta311 Posted August 14, 2007 defense is all we ever had in the 90s. Sure it got us to the playoffs a lot, but that was about it but that's the thing, we have an offense to go along with our defense. we'll be in the top 10, most likely top 5 in scoring and yards this season easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest _my_2_cents_ Posted August 14, 2007 Chargers are a top 3 team in the NFL. Word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites