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GutterBoy Alleges That: "There Is No Logic Coming From Jordan Peterson" (Let's Explore That)
The Real timschochet replied to Blue Horseshoe's topic in The Geek Club
Last night Nikki Haley complained about trans athletes and said “no wonder so many of our young girls commit suicide.” There are probably less than 100 trans athletes in the United States. -
GutterBoy Alleges That: "There Is No Logic Coming From Jordan Peterson" (Let's Explore That)
GutterBoy replied to Blue Horseshoe's topic in The Geek Club
If the argument is that trans clinics are duping kids into thinking they are trans so they can cut their d's off (lol, sorry), then how is it a stretch to say that cancer clinics can dupe patients into their cancer spreading and undergoing expensive treatments, right? In fact we've seen this type of fraud before in the medical community, unfortunately. The solution is not to outlaw the clinic, but rather regulate them and eliminate the fraud and abuse. -
GutterBoy Alleges That: "There Is No Logic Coming From Jordan Peterson" (Let's Explore That)
Blue Horseshoe replied to Blue Horseshoe's topic in The Geek Club
Trans activism is sexist and delusional Jordan Peterson 27 March 2023 ...summarising current scientific understanding and coming from a research psychologist and clinician. ...Let's start with the basics. Sexual differentiation, on the biological front – where the whole woman/man dichotomy originates, after all – happened two billion years in the past, long before nervous systems developed a mere 600 million years ago. The brute fact of sexual dichotomy was already a constant before even the basics of our perceptual, motivational, emotional and cognitive systems made their appearance on the cosmic stage...The fact that such perception and sex-linked action was possible even before nervous systems themselves evolved should provide proof to anyone willing to think that the sexual binary is both fundamental objective fact and primary psychological axiom....There’s more: sexual differentiation is observable at every level of biological function. Sperm and egg are sexually differentiated; the 40 trillion cells that make up the human body each have a nucleus containing 23 paired chromosomes. Every single cell (with some minor exceptions) in a woman is female, and every single cell in a man male.... ...Physiological differences between the sexes, in addition to those that obtain at the cellular level, are manifold. Human males and females differ, on average, in hormonal function, brain organization, height, weight, strength, endurance, facial features and patterns of bodily hair, to take some obvious examples. But the differences are not limited to the physical. Men and women differ enough in temperament so that they can be distinguished with about 75% accuracy on that basis alone. If differences in interest are taken into account, that distinction becomes even more accurate. Such temperamental and interest differences are also larger, not smaller, in more gender-neutral societies, a strong indication of their biological basis.... ...Identity is not subjective: The claim of the so-called “progressives”, however, is that feelings alone are sufficient to define personhood. This claim is simultaneously ignorant, preposterous and malevolent. Even if biology was ignored entirely, identity is not and cannot be deemed merely subjective – not least because the environment to which each individual must adapt is social, as well as natural, and not solipsistic. This means that every person must, by the very nature of being human, adopt a way of being that he or she cannot entirely choose. The blatant fact of the existence of others and the brute realities of the objective natural world require careful adaptation: the careful negotiation of identity.... ...To socially integrate, it is necessary for us to adopt, voluntarily, and at an early age, a plethora of shared frames of reference and patterns of action, precisely so we render ourselves acceptable and desirable to others ....Sanity is not something internal, but the consequence of a harmonized social integration....Identity is therefore by no means “a state of feeling that is subjectively defined” but the adoption of a way of being that allows for the integration of individuals into a hierarchy of social being. Sanity is also not mere subjective “happiness” or even the slightly more profound “absence of suffering (fear and pain)” but the sense of harmony that prevails when individual, couple, family, friends, town and nation are all functioning together toward the same end and for the same and voluntarily-accepted reasons... ..Subjective feeling is not a negotiated identity of the sophisticated and socially-integrated form. It is instead, something akin to raw emotion – something shallow, impulsive, and mutable; something that does not iterate well, in its hedonic excesses, across social situations or time. Thus, those who argue that that emotion (in its most short-term manifestation) must be, ethically and by law, the determining measure of “identity,” of clinical and medical practice, and of legal personhood, are insisting with force on the adoption of an idea as imprudent and immature as can possibly be conceptualized.... ...This is an unquestioned tenet of proper clinical practice, although the APA and the other professional organizations that hypothetically regulate such things have thrown that all out the window in their rush to validate subjective feeling. This is unethical in the extreme, by the standards of practice simultaneously insisted upon by the same organizations. It is simply not appropriate for clinicians to rely solely on the subjective reports of their clients or research subjects. It is in fact clear malpractice for them to do so – and that malpractice is heightened in its unethical pathology when it is further insisted that subjective self-report is not only sufficient but necessarily trumps all other actual and potential sources of evidence.... ...Anorexics and bulimics are not too fat despite their belief in their own overweight status. Those who are suicidal do not deserve or have a right to their own death merely because they are depressed and feeling useless to the point of despair. People with obsessive compulsive disorder are not contaminated to the point of using a whole bar of soap during a single shower, despite believing that they have become unacceptably dirty. Paranoid people are not being persecuted by the CIA. Schizophrenics with religious delusions are not the holy figures they imagine themselves to be, and manics are not correct in their assumptions of grandiose destiny. Period. The end. And any therapists who beg to differ – or who are insisting that all that may be true but somehow does not apply in the case of “gender dysphoria” – have abdicated their professional responsibility and are violating the deepest ethics of their profession...This is particularly true when those offering the subjective self-report are children, whose testimony in relationship to self must be considered in light of their comparative immaturity and limited knowledge of self, past, present and future.... ...This is what being a “woman” has come to. What constitutes “female” has now been reduced to “any human with a hole, however produced, that a man can use as a substitute or replacement for masturbation or dyadic intercourse.” That definition is the ultimate in sexism. That is far and away a more reductionist and derogatory conceptualization of woman than anything previously foisted on women by even the most oppressive of patriarchal and misogynistic tyrants.... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/27/trans-activism-sexist-delusional/ -
GutterBoy Alleges That: "There Is No Logic Coming From Jordan Peterson" (Let's Explore That)
jerryskids replied to Blue Horseshoe's topic in The Geek Club
Sorry but the cancer clinic is a terrible analogy. We have the science to establish its existence and best-known medical practices. It would be like if we had no diagnostic abilities, and somebody came in and said "gee doc, I think I saw some blood in my stool," and the doc said "could be colon cancer, let's start a chemo regimen! Regarding number of clinics, we seemed to do OK with zero about 15 years ago. This is not to say there were no resources available to trans people, but rather no dedicated clinics solely to trans. -
GutterBoy Alleges That: "There Is No Logic Coming From Jordan Peterson" (Let's Explore That)
jerryskids replied to Blue Horseshoe's topic in The Geek Club
Ok let's back up. Do you believe that all trans people suffer from gender dysphoria? Or instead, can you identify as trans without gender dysphoria? -
The Official "Political Tweets That Have Aged Horribly" Thread
Blue Horseshoe replied to Blue Horseshoe's topic in The Geek Club
‘What Is a Woman?’ Delivers Shocking, Subversive Truths About the Culture ....The film follows Daily Wire podcaster and author Matt Walsh as he asks one of society’s most simple questions, one suddenly fraught with cultural complications. No snark. No lectures or finger wagging. Just calm, reasonable questioning. The answers, when they finally arrive, can be startling. Director Justin Folk (“No Safe Spaces”) keeps the tone jaunty, even darkly comic. Walsh lacks the charisma of a born entertainer, so Folk frames him in a different light. He’s the Everyman, someone willing to ask the questions most won’t utter. A segment on trans sports lets two female athletes criticize Lia Thomas, the University of Pennsylvania swimmer who transitioned to female and now dominates the field. One fellow athlete appears on screen to share her frustrations at losing out to a biological male identifying as female. “I missed out on so much throughout my high school career,” she laments. Another is seen in the shadows, her voice modified to shield her identity. “If you speak up about it … your life will be over in some way,” she says. Defy the trans groupthink and face profound consequences. https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/what-is-a-woman-review-matt-walsh/ -
A trans onesie for babies and a trans coloring book for little kids is absolutely grooming, and there is no denying it. Looks like a lot of people have had enough. Leave the kids alone.
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Gay and trans people will say this law will target them. Weird they would say that....
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How do people still defend and vote for Dems
The Real timschochet replied to BillyKing's topic in The Geek Club
I was listening to the teacher in Florida yesterday who said “I have no time to teach your kids to become gay or trans; I’m too busy teaching math.” So that’s the answer to the question raised in this thread. We vote Democrat because Republicans have gone off the deep end. Banning books. Banning abortion. Removing rights for gays and trans. Opposing every attempt to remove racism from our society. Expressing contempt for science from climate to Covid. It goes way beyond the worship for a scumbag like Trump. Conservatives have adopted extremism as their method of operation. The Democratic Party isn’t perfect by any means but it’s the only way to oppose the dangerous craziness that the GOP has become. -
Lia Thomas, part two: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13096103/Riley-Gaines-reacts-trans-swimmer-Meghan-Cortez-Fields-smashes-womens-record.html You go GIRL!!!!!
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They are in a tough spot on this one. They know that in the grievance heirarchy the trans people are now at the top, and there is just too much risk in standing up for women. Plus, they have been pretending for years that women are somehow "held back", when in fact they are among the most entitled people on the planet ; but I digress. It appears as though feminists stand apart from liberals in that they will not be hyporcrits. They know that to challenge the trans community is to challenge their own claims to grievance. Feminists are in a tough spot.
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The trans freaks are using kids to further their agenda.
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44% of trans- identified individuals report serious psychological distress, and one-third homelessness. This is very sad. If they would seek the Lord, The Holy Spirit can help them understand the wrong and how to be cleansed to be right.
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Ok Gutterboy Keep it real up in the field, good luck today teaching your Son's trans twerking class.
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If you look up michele obama is a trans, or a guy, all you get are a list of snopes type sites "disproving" the notion. So funny. What a coverup scam. "She's" a husband in heels and nothing can disprove it.
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Marsha P. Johnson (1945-1992) Before Netflix brought Johnson's story to life with the documentary The Death and Life of Marsha P. Johnson, many people were unfamiliar with the influential role she had on drag and queer culture. Johnson, a Black trans woman and activist, was at the forefront of fighting for LGBTQ rights in the 1960s and 70s (including partaking in the resistance at Stonewall). In addition to being the cofounder of STAR, an organization that housed homeless queer youth, Johnson also fought for equality through the Gay Liberation Front.
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You gotta hand it to the trans ideologists…hijacking the gay movement was a brilliant play. The fact that the play here is that “pride” and “rainbows” are being attacked, instead of focusing on the trans ideology attacking objective truth, was definitely 3D chess.
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The Church Shooter Was A Liberal Tranny
BuckSwope replied to Maximum Overkill's topic in The Geek Club
I mean, sometimes there is a direct link to their politics and violence. My point was that if you look at mass shooters in general, none of this applies because it's mostly inner city and domestic shootings widely applied. School/mall/church shooters take on a much different profile, and when you look at those specifically there is no common link like D/R, trans, etc.. The common traits are what I talked about and where we should start if we want to address it. -
The Church Shooter Was A Liberal Tranny
BuckSwope replied to Maximum Overkill's topic in The Geek Club
It would make sense. Common traits for these types of shooters: domestic abuse, suicidal, attachment to the location, recent mental health crisis, access to guns. Things that aren't a common connection but people obsess about anyway: vote R or D, trans, what religion they are, etc. -
The Church Shooter Was A Liberal Tranny
TimHauck replied to Maximum Overkill's topic in The Geek Club
She was born female and identified as female, despite using the name Jeffrey. Does schizophrenic count as trans now? https://6abc.com/lakewood-church-shooting-shooter-houston-joel-osteen-megachurch/14415008/?ex_cid=TA_WPVI_TW&taid=65cbae331ba9b100015f7fd4&utm_campaign=trueanthem_manual&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter But yeah, as noted earlier, the real story here should be that despite her documented mental health AND criminal history, she was still able to LEGALLY purchase a gun. -
Also to add 1) Lots of people don't like transgenders, and gays, so if they can paint transgenders as being evil, they can eradicate them. A real easy way to make people scared is to say they are coming after your kids. People will immediately be against trans and gays if they are trying to abuse your kids. 2) They are trying to win an election. We've seen the right paint the left as the trans party, the pedo party, so that's another easy way to gain support. Hey vote for me, because the other guy is trying to rape your kid. The good thing is this only applies to the dumbest of the dumb. The bad thing is there are lots of dumb people in this world that eat up this BS.
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The Church Shooter Was A Liberal Tranny
BuckSwope replied to Maximum Overkill's topic in The Geek Club
Yeah, I call bs on this, especially in context of this board. Sorry, you can't say it's about "mental health" when you treat them and talk about them differently than other people who struggle with issues of mental health. You can't complain about lack of empathy and inability to help them when you don't know basic stats, offer any solutions on how to address mental health, and go along with the trope that they are violent as a people. I see the posts around here and think it's 100% about trans people and a dislike of them, or at the very least a hatred for the people who support them 100%. I see it as just another group of people the tribes are happy to argue about, take too extreme of positions on, and ultimately don't end up helping them in the long run. -
Trans, liberal, non white, migrant, anti Christian. Can it be any more obvious?
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Man, the TDS (Trans Derangement Syndrome) is strong in here.
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Why is there so much anti-gay hatred? Woman shot and killed for having a rainbow flag in her store.
The Real timschochet posted a topic in The Geek Club
https://abc7.com/amp/lake-arrowhead-store-owner-killed-mag-pi-clothing-laura-ann-carleton/13673754/ I’ve actually been to that store. What the hell is wrong with people? Why can’t they leave gays and trans alone?