BattyRidas 0 Posted October 29, 2005 It's obviously a RBBC. I don't think either Pearman or Jones can carry the full load. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stalker711 0 Posted October 29, 2005 (edited) Another way to interpret Jones being moved to fullback is that they were so impressed with his skillset and wanted to find a way to get him on the field. With Taylor starting, it's a way to accomplish that. Pearman may have some potential, but he can only average 2.7 YPC while G Jones averages 4.6 for so long before it becomes apparant which back should be getting reps when Fred can't go.... You're certainly onto something with GJ moving to FB. He is a talented FB who can actually carry the rock. Many RBs struggle early on in their rookie campaign. Take Greg Jones for example. In '04, he ran 62 times for 162 yds, for a wopping 2.6 ypc. Point is not to diminish Jones, but to state that Pearman needs more time and more carries before he can be validated as a stud or a dud, and I am standing firm that he will end up closer to the stud side. DocJ, what do you think is GJones' potential? Edited October 29, 2005 by Stalker711 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,676 Posted October 29, 2005 If FT can't go they should both get lots of touches. Against the rams they could both score. I just need FT to sit out an extra game against Hou so I can get pearman in there as a bye week fill in desperation slot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trancedynasty 0 Posted October 29, 2005 fred taylor sucks, wth. sersoiuly like someone said on this board earlier, what a focking waste of a good matchup thx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuctTapeMan 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Awe hell...I drafted Dillion, J.Jones and Taylor. I am getting killed this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuctTapeMan 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Sports line still has a big picture of Taylor on the league home page with the caption "Fred Taylor should stomp St. Louis" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilroy 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Sports line still has a big picture of Taylor on the league home page with the caption "Fred Taylor should stomp St. Louis" Yea, it was right after I saw Sportsline label him the "Play of the Week" that I came here and found out he is unlikely to play. He better come back at 100% soon because the Jaguars face a lot of soft defenses the rest of the season and a healthy Taylor would rack up a lot of yardage and maybe even a few TDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted October 29, 2005 what a fuckinh pussy serioulsy with edge on bye i needed you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Proteus71 0 Posted October 29, 2005 This doesn't make sense. He practiced all week and is listed as probable. Now he has to sit out, and is downgraded to questionable? WTF? Either he re-aggravated the injury or the team is playing games, but can't the team get fined for providing false medical info??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mel Kiper 0 Posted October 29, 2005 what a fuckinh pussy serioulsy with edge on bye i needed you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Another way to interpret Jones being moved to fullback is that they were so impressed with his skillset and wanted to find a way to get him on the field. With Taylor starting, it's a way to accomplish that. Pearman may have some potential, but he can only average 2.7 YPC while G Jones averages 4.6 for so long before it becomes apparant which back should be getting reps when Fred can't go.... You're certainly onto something with GJ moving to FB. He is a talented FB who can actually carry the rock. Many RBs struggle early on in their rookie campaign. Take Greg Jones for example. In '04, he ran 62 times for 162 yds, for a wopping 2.6 ypc. Point is not to diminish Jones, but to state that Pearman needs more time and more carries before he can be validated as a stud or a dud, and I am standing firm that he will end up closer to the stud side. DocJ, what do you think is GJones' potential? Honestly, I don't think all that much of him. Like you say, he doesn't have a lot of quickness, but he does have decent speed for a guy his size. At the same time, I just don't see what others do in Pearman either. Guys like DD and MM are on the smallish side, but Pearman just seems tiny and not built for a feature back role in any way. At least Greg Jones has that going for him... Everyone wants to find that ultra sleeper that will be replacing a guy like Fred Taylor, but it's not always there. If I had to guess, I'd say the Jaguars RB of the future is playing in the NCAA right now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duece2626 0 Posted October 29, 2005 This doesn't make sense. He practiced all week and is listed as probable. Now he has to sit out, and is downgraded to questionable? WTF? Either he re-aggravated the injury or the team is playing games, but can't the team get fined for providing false medical info??? Read that after practicing Wed/Thur, is ankle swelled up on Friday. (The Huddle) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gpann101 32 Posted October 29, 2005 I say beware!!! Jax coach may pull a shannohany and put in toefield to mess with the FFers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayJay1971 239 Posted October 29, 2005 Well IU for one hope that Taylor does not play. I am facing the team that has him and I need a win to stay in playoff contention. I have been hit hard by injuries so my make shift roster needs all the help it can get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildman 0 Posted October 29, 2005 What am I missing about Greg Jones not being good enough to be a quality NFL RB? 1. Averages 4.3 ypc against the Steelers at home 2. Has a long run of 25 yards that was actually an outside run (speed?) 3. A TD from 7 yards out. 4. A reception for 10 yards 5. No lost yardage. All this against a team that allows only 3.5 ypc (6th in the NFL) and 5th in yards allowed. The first couple of years can be meaningless when determining a players' fate. I think Jones has a chance to regain a shot at playing RB more consistently, and the Steelers game only fueled that opporunity even more so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeefyTaco 0 Posted October 29, 2005 all this hype and watch Fragile Fred play I hope not because I just picked up Greg Jones since Edge and Martin are both on byes and I'm desperate, so hopefully Fragile Fred nurses himself another week, hah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
na7e 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Just dropped Gieco (M.Faulk) for AAA(Jones). Let frag. Fred sit 1 more so he can blow up next week. thank goodness droughns plays houston Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaintGuru 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Will Jones play much even if Taylor does play? Perhaps they would use Jones at the goal line so no to run Taylor back into an injury if he is not at 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Moose Knuckle Ball Four Posted October 29, 2005 Taylor's status downgraded Tests show bone bruise in ankle of Jaguars' top rusher, who is listed as questionable. Jaguars running back Fred Taylor could miss his second consecutive game Sunday at St. Louis. He was downgraded to questionable on Friday on the team's injury report. Taylor said he expects to play, but coach Jack Del Rio said the veteran runner's availability would be a game-time decision after Taylor tests his injured ankle in warmups Sunday morning. According to NFL guidelines, players listed as questionable have a 50-percent chance of playing. Del Rio said fullback Greg Jones, who ran for 77 yards and a touchdown against Pittsburgh in Taylor's absence two weeks ago, would start again at tailback against the Rams if Taylor can't play. Del Rio also confirmed that tests show Taylor suffered a bone bruise, not a sprain, when he rolled his ankle Oct. 9 against Cincinnati. Bone bruises are painful and can linger for weeks, and Del Rio said the continued soreness in Taylor's ankle caused the Jaguars to downgrade him on the injury report. "He was OK throughout the week and practiced all week, but he's a little sore,'' Del Rio said. "So there's a little question in my mind, although we anticipate having him. I just want to be as accurate as possible [with the injury report]." Del Rio said Taylor practiced all week and did not suffer any setbacks, though Taylor ran with a slight limp during Friday's 30-minute media session. Del Rio would not say if the soreness resulted in the team limiting his repetitions in practice. This marks the second consecutive game that Del Rio downgraded Taylor to questionable on the injury report two days before kickoff. Taylor has missed three of the Jaguars' past eight games dating to last season with ankle and knee injuries. He had started 46 consecutive games from 2002-2004. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Taylor's status downgraded Tests show bone bruise in ankle of Jaguars' top rusher, who is listed as questionable. Jaguars running back Fred Taylor could miss his second consecutive game Sunday at St. Louis. He was downgraded to questionable on Friday on the team's injury report. Taylor said he expects to play, but coach Jack Del Rio said the veteran runner's availability would be a game-time decision after Taylor tests his injured ankle in warmups Sunday morning. According to NFL guidelines, players listed as questionable have a 50-percent chance of playing. Del Rio said fullback Greg Jones, who ran for 77 yards and a touchdown against Pittsburgh in Taylor's absence two weeks ago, would start again at tailback against the Rams if Taylor can't play. Del Rio also confirmed that tests show Taylor suffered a bone bruise, not a sprain, when he rolled his ankle Oct. 9 against Cincinnati. Bone bruises are painful and can linger for weeks, and Del Rio said the continued soreness in Taylor's ankle caused the Jaguars to downgrade him on the injury report. "He was OK throughout the week and practiced all week, but he's a little sore,'' Del Rio said. "So there's a little question in my mind, although we anticipate having him. I just want to be as accurate as possible [with the injury report]." Del Rio said Taylor practiced all week and did not suffer any setbacks, though Taylor ran with a slight limp during Friday's 30-minute media session. Del Rio would not say if the soreness resulted in the team limiting his repetitions in practice. This marks the second consecutive game that Del Rio downgraded Taylor to questionable on the injury report two days before kickoff. Taylor has missed three of the Jaguars' past eight games dating to last season with ankle and knee injuries. He had started 46 consecutive games from 2002-2004. Source? Link? nice autosig - keep on breaking the forum rules. It's too bad that FFT might suffer from your violations, since it's their forum that you're doing this on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sperri40 12 Posted October 29, 2005 Source? Link? nice autosig - keep on breaking the forum rules. It's too bad that FFT might suffer from your violations, since it's their forum that you're doing this on. touching story... i am sure fft is thankful to have you worrying for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirRam 3 Posted October 29, 2005 I'd just like to mention I traded Fred Taylor and Mushin Muhammed for Steve Smith on Tuesday. Fred was an 8th round pick and Muhammed was a ww pick up. I rock. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted October 29, 2005 I'd like to mention that Sportsline still sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheCheat Posted October 29, 2005 I'd just like to mention I offered a trade for Taylor yesterday morning (thinking [squawk]playoffs[/squawk]) while all reports on him were still positive, and was able to rescind the offer in time because the news of the downgrade hit here yesterday well before it hit other places (e.g., KFFL, Rotoworld). This bored rocks. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kitrick Taylor 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Doesn't anyone else think Pearman = JJ Arrington? For what its worth, I think Freddie's gonna play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beantownbrown 0 Posted October 29, 2005 I think they both had exactly the same amount of touches last week. You think, I know Pearman 20 to Jones 19 Who cares, look what Jones did with his carries then look at what Pearman did...not even close to the production Jones had. Pearman will be the back catching passes out of the backfield, Jones will carry the rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sapronos04 0 Posted October 29, 2005 I think Fred will play. If not, i like Jones and Pearman. If its a PPR league then Pearman. Jones did well VS Pitt because of his size and running style. Vs STL there will be holes and Pearman IMO will be the more productive RB. I have none of them so i can care less.. Just my take. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilroy 0 Posted October 29, 2005 What am I missing about Greg Jones not being good enough to be a quality NFL RB? 1. Averages 4.3 ypc against the Steelers at home 2. Has a long run of 25 yards that was actually an outside run (speed?) 3. A TD from 7 yards out. 4. A reception for 10 yards 5. No lost yardage. All this against a team that allows only 3.5 ypc (6th in the NFL) and 5th in yards allowed. The first couple of years can be meaningless when determining a players' fate. I think Jones has a chance to regain a shot at playing RB more consistently, and the Steelers game only fueled that opporunity even more so. I was wondering the same thing. I haven't seen him or Pearman play, but Jones would seem to have the upper hand. Wether he can run outside or not doesn't matter if he is able to punch it up the middle and average over 4.0 yards a carry doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana 0 Posted October 29, 2005 I'd just like to mention I traded Fred Taylor and Mushin Muhammed for Steve Smith on Tuesday. Fred was an 8th round pick and Muhammed was a ww pick up. I rock. Carry on. What kind of leagues are people in where Fred Taylor lasts till the 8th round? He hasn't done particularly good compared to expectations this year, but he's still way outperformed an 8th round selection. Is it a really touchdown heavy league, or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdizel 0 Posted October 29, 2005 You are all smoking crack!!! Jones is the better back and Pearman is garbage. He won't get nearly as many touches as Jones. People, don't let these guys fool you about Pearman, if Taylor sits Jones will be the man!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mozzy84 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Taylor's status downgraded Tests show bone bruise in ankle of Jaguars' top rusher, who is listed as questionable. Jaguars running back Fred Taylor could miss his second consecutive game Sunday at St. Louis. He was downgraded to questionable on Friday on the team's injury report. Taylor said he expects to play, but coach Jack Del Rio said the veteran runner's availability would be a game-time decision after Taylor tests his injured ankle in warmups Sunday morning. According to NFL guidelines, players listed as questionable have a 50-percent chance of playing. Del Rio said fullback Greg Jones, who ran for 77 yards and a touchdown against Pittsburgh in Taylor's absence two weeks ago, would start again at tailback against the Rams if Taylor can't play. Del Rio also confirmed that tests show Taylor suffered a bone bruise, not a sprain, when he rolled his ankle Oct. 9 against Cincinnati. Bone bruises are painful and can linger for weeks, and Del Rio said the continued soreness in Taylor's ankle caused the Jaguars to downgrade him on the injury report. "He was OK throughout the week and practiced all week, but he's a little sore,'' Del Rio said. "So there's a little question in my mind, although we anticipate having him. I just want to be as accurate as possible [with the injury report]." Del Rio said Taylor practiced all week and did not suffer any setbacks, though Taylor ran with a slight limp during Friday's 30-minute media session. Del Rio would not say if the soreness resulted in the team limiting his repetitions in practice. This marks the second consecutive game that Del Rio downgraded Taylor to questionable on the injury report two days before kickoff. Taylor has missed three of the Jaguars' past eight games dating to last season with ankle and knee injuries. He had started 46 consecutive games from 2002-2004. Source? Link? nice autosig - keep on breaking the forum rules. It's too bad that FFT might suffer from your violations, since it's their forum that you're doing this on. can't you just go away, you're like a jealous little kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IN$TANT REPAY 11 Posted October 29, 2005 Already own GREG JONES !! me 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Moose Knuckle Ball Four Posted October 29, 2005 because the news of the downgrade hit here yesterday well before it hit other places (e.g., KFFL, Rotoworld). This bored rocks. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karchkiraly 0 Posted October 30, 2005 because the news of the downgrade hit here yesterday well before it hit other places (e.g., KFFL, Rotoworld). This bored rocks. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 30, 2005 Already own GREG JONES !! me 2 Yeah, well me too, big whoop-de-doo. Gametime decision = kiss of death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites