Dumbest move of the offseason

[shovelheadt 71]

My nomination...the Chargers letting Brees walk while getting nothing.

[Franknbeans 46]

My nomination...the Chargers letting Brees walk while getting nothing.

 

[Guest stevejohnson]

The Brees thing is by far the most foolish move. They basically set what could have been a legit contender back several years by now having to waste a year "grooming" Rivers. If this was the plan they should have let Brees walk last season. Not to mention Brees was very well liked in the locker room so this hurts the team morale as well!

[yostevo 0]

I guess this thread is over. Hard to imagine a worse decision for absolutely no compensation and you get the luxury of having a playoff caliber team being lead essentially by a rookie QB now.

[shovelheadt 71]

I was watching some interviews on NFL Network with some Charger players. The question was, "Is Rivers ready to lead this team?".

 

After some stuttering, the only thing they could come back with was, "He doesn't have a choice".

[U Dub 0]

yup, definitely.

 

will LT and gates put up good #'s still?

[Guest stevejohnson]

yup, definitely.

 

will LT and gates put up good #'s still?

 

LT will still get his numbers regardless of the QB but his TDs may take a hit because most young QBs, even the ones that turn out to be good, struggle with turnovers in their 1st season......Gates may actually improve (if that is possible) because young QBs tend to check down more often.

[Portis26 0]

LT will still get his numbers regardless of the QB but his TDs may take a hit because most young QBs, even the ones that turn out to be good, struggle with turnovers in their 1st season......Gates may actually improve (if that is possible) because young QBs tend to check down more often.

 

Less overall plays with more 3 and outs -- mean significant drops for Gates and LT - IMO

[yostevo 0]

LT will still get his numbers regardless of the QB but his TDs may take a hit because most young QBs, even the ones that turn out to be good, struggle with turnovers in their 1st season......Gates may actually improve (if that is possible) because young QBs tend to check down more often.

 

I see Gates possibly taking a hit, but LT gets his whether it's running or as a safety valve out of the backfield because they are behind.

[uubeee 0]

Just for argument sake (because letting Brees walk was a joke). What about Seattle not using the Franchise Tag of Hutchinson. Using the Transition Tag saved them less than a mil and now they would get no compensation for him if they don't match.

[phillybear 366]

What about Seattle not using the Franchise Tag of Hutchinson. Using the Transition Tag saved them less than a mil and now they would get no compensation for him if they don't match.

 

I was about to post the same thing. I am not sure why the front office chose to go this route. The only thing I can think of is that they didn't want to go through a similar multi year ordeal like with Walter Jones. But there was a chance of losing Hutchinson this way, and it looks like that may very well happen.

[shovelheadt 71]

Just for argument sake (because letting Brees walk was a joke). What about Seattle not using the Franchise Tag of Hutchinson. Using the Transition Tag saved them less than a mil and now they would get no compensation for him if they don't match.

 

Did any of you read about some of the wording the Vikes threw into their offer sheet. It gaurantees that Hutch be the highest paid lineman on his team for the first couple of years, guard or tackle. So if Seattle does match, they have to ensure that he's paid more than Walter Jones.

[Timinator 0]

I fear the answer just may be:

"And now! Your new Packers coach!! Mike McCarthy!!!"

:crickets:

 

But I like the Brees and Hutch submissions as well.

[Franknbeans 46]

I was about to post the same thing. I am not sure why the front office chose to go this route. The only thing I can think of is that they didn't want to go through a similar multi year ordeal like with Walter Jones. But there was a chance of losing Hutchinson this way, and it looks like that may very well happen.

I heard they did it as a good faith type of negotitation. They were aware that some players really resent being tagged by their franchise so the Seahawks thought they were doing Hutch a solid and now they're like

[kraziness 0]

Did any of you read about some of the wording the Vikes threw into their offer sheet. It gaurantees that Hutch be the highest paid lineman on his team for the first couple of years, guard or tackle. So if Seattle does match, they have to ensure that he's paid more than Walter Jones.

 

 

This is true, if he is paid less than another lineman, then all 50mil is gauranteed money.

 

I don't think it's "the worst" move, but Cinci signing Dexter Jackson seems funny to me. The guy was good in Tampa and signed a big deal in Az (after winning the SB MVP). He totally flamed in Az, so he came back to Tampa and did well, then got another multi-year deal. Doesn't anyone else realize that being in Tampa, with their system/defense made him better?

[Cruzer 1,996]

Could turn out to be Miami not shelling out the $$$ for Brees and taking Pepper.

[CA_7 0]

LT put up great numbers when Brees sucked (2003). I think Rivers definitely hurts Gates IMO so maybe LT actually jumps up abit since Gates can't steal redzone TDs

[shovelheadt 71]

This is true, if he is paid less than another lineman, then all 50mil is gauranteed money.

 

I don't think it's "the worst" move, but Cinci signing Dexter Jackson seems funny to me. The guy was good in Tampa and signed a big deal in Az (after winning the SB MVP). He totally flamed in Az, so he came back to Tampa and did well, then got another multi-year deal. Doesn't anyone else realize that being in Tampa, with their system/defense made him better?

 

- Ray Lewis would have flamed out on that Cardinals team

- Both of Cinci's safeties were hurt last year, so this is definitely an upgrade.

- By cutting Herring, who was hurt for two years, they'll basically getting Jackson for free.

- 4 years for 7.6mil is fine by me for any above average player.

[football_scooter 0]

I disagree on Brees - obviously the Chargers are concerned about his shoulder, as would I be. He wasn't doing anything spectacular on that team, nor did he lead them to success in the playoffs.

 

Remember before Brees had his big season? LT2 was responsible for something like 56% of the Charger's offensive production. Rivers can hand LT2 the ball or throw swing passes just as well as Brees did. With weapons like Gates, McCardell and of course LT2, Rivers may be poised for one of the best 1st year starter seasons in NFL history.

 

Brees was not worth 10 mil. They probably should have gotten something for him, but I disagree with this as the worst offseason move.

 

I fear the answer just may be:

"And now! Your new Packers coach!! Mike McCarthy!!!"

:crickets:

 

But I like the Brees and Hutch submissions as well.

 

 

This one's my favorite - guy's done nothing to prove that he can coach a team other than lead the Niners to the 32nd ranked offense in 2005, and the Saints into the toilet before that. How he's a HC in one of the most hardcore towns in football is amazing when you consider how long it took Denny Green to get a job after Minny.

 

If Seattle Loses Hutch, it may well be worse though. Why bother to re-sign Alexander while not keeping the left side of that O-Line intact? Makes no sense.

[swamp dog 0]

redskins, without question.

 

how many santana-moss like wrs do they need on one team? tha's bad enough--but when they give $30 mill to moss' lesser twin randle el...that's bordeline insane and/or criminal.

 

danny snyder needs to be checked for a brain tumor.

 

I fear the answer just may be:

"And now! Your new Packers coach!! Mike McCarthy!!!"

:crickets:

 

But I like the Brees and Hutch submissions as well.

 

we don't know how these new guys will fare yet...but mccarthy has an eerie resemblance to marty moronweg on many levels.

[Vikings4ever 568]

Could turn out to be Miami not shelling out the $$$ for Brees and taking Pepper.

The Culpepper could easily turn out to be the dumbest move of the year. For the Vikes or the Dolphins.

[mggoilers 0]

redskins, without question.

 

how many santana-moss like wrs do they need on one team? tha's bad enough--but when they give $30 mill to moss' lesser twin randle el...that's bordeline insane and/or criminal.

 

danny snyder needs to be checked for a brain tumor.

we don't know how these new guys will fare yet...but mccarthy has an eerie resemblance to marty moronweg on many levels.

 

+1

 

The Brees thing is not a big deal, I think Phillip Rivers could help them miss the playoffs too, and maybe get them there more than once in 5 years.

 

Brees was solid but you drafted Rivers #4 overall...let's see what he has. He is surrounded by talent on both sides of the ball.

[gemynd 0]

I fear the answer just may be:

"And now! Your new Packers coach!! Mike McCarthy!!!"

:crickets:

 

But I like the Brees and Hutch submissions as well.

 

Although I agree with the Chargers losing Brees is probably the worst so far for a player, letting Sherman go after three straight division championships (that's correct isn't it?) was pretty rash. Even the best coaches have troubled years.

[miket7 0]

Running backs don't have the lifespan of other NFL positions...especially someone who gets the ball as much as LT.

 

By the time Rivers is ready to carry the team, LT could likely be on the downside of his career.

 

 

DUMB MOVE

[What is the deal? 1]

Rivers should be ready, he's been "groomed" for 2 years now... It's now or never.

[surferskin 31]

redskins, without question.

 

how many santana-moss like wrs do they need on one team? tha's bad enough--but when they give $30 mill to moss' lesser twin randle el...that's bordeline insane and/or criminal.

 

danny snyder needs to be checked for a brain tumor.

we don't know how these new guys will fare yet...but mccarthy has an eerie resemblance to marty moronweg on many levels.

 

yeah, it's a real mistake to upgrade their #2 & #3 WR's.

 

BTW, didn't the lions sign yet another WR? does that still mean they'll be taking santonio holmes with their first pick?

[mobb_deep 920]

yeah, it's a real mistake to upgrade their #2 & #3 WR's.

 

BTW, didn't the lions sign yet another WR? does that still mean they'll be taking santonio holmes with their first pick?

 

low blow (but that's probably what we'll do). someone stop the bleeding

[mggoilers 0]

yeah, it's a real mistake to upgrade their #2 & #3 WR's.

 

 

They should have spent their money on a QB, Brunell doesn't make it through this season.

 

When did Brunell retire?

 

They are putting a lot of trust in Brunell and Campbell

[JackARoot 2]

Brees leaving should help LT's passing numbers

[surferskin 31]

They should have spent their money on a QB, Brunell doesn't make it through this season.

 

When did Brunell retire?

 

They are putting a lot of trust in Brunell and Campbell

 

of course they're putting a lot trust in them both...brunell got them to second round of the playoffs last year and they drafted campbell in the first round.

[mggoilers 0]

of course they're putting a lot trust in them both...brunell got them to second round of the playoffs last year and they drafted campbell in the first round.

 

 

Brunell faded late in the season, and Campbell saw virtually no playing time...and they seem content to trade away their veteran backup. I don't think Brunell can hold up, just my take.

[surferskin 31]

Brunell faded late in the season, and Campbell saw virtually no playing time...and they seem content to trade away their veteran backup. I don't think Brunell can hold up, just my take.

 

brunell hurt his knee in week 16 and that's partially the reason he faded. also, do really think they should have tried to sign a QB after drafting campbell in the first round just last year?

[BigSeXXXy 0]

brunell hurt his knee in week 16 and that's partially the reason he faded. also, do really think they should have tried to sign a QB after drafting campbell in the first round just last year?

how did this turn into a deadskin debate

[mggoilers 0]

brunell hurt his knee in week 16 and that's partially the reason he faded. also, do really think they should have tried to sign a QB after drafting campbell in the first round just last year?

 

They signed Todd Collins who knows Saunders system...if he can stay out of trouble he should be a solid backup...sorry for the tangent

[t.j 35]

My nomination...the Chargers letting Brees walk while getting nothing.

 

I disagree. To franchise him they would have had to pay him $9.7M this year. I think they would have had a tough time trading him while he's injured. Rivers is burning a big hole in their pocketbooks and they need to get something on that investment now. They gave Drew his shot to win the job and win a long-term deal (which would have resulted in them trading Rivers instead), but they missed the playoffs and he got hurt, so bye-bye.

[Stalker711 0]

My pick for the worst move is the 'skins signing Randle El to a $30M contract. What the heck were they thinking? They could have paid Givens less to be more productive! I don't care about the size issue. Short is in right now. The big concern is that they don't have a single tough WR on the roster. They will pay Brandon Lloyd some insane $$ money soon, so watch out.

 

Chris Coolio's value in their system just skyrocketed.

[kozmiq 70]

Whomever signs T.O.!

They won't win a championship and it won't last the ligitimate length of the deal.

T.O. will end up parting ways acrimoniously.

Plus with this new Collective Bargaining agreement NOT allowing teams to punish players in that manner, well THAT makes it that much dicier.

Bad deal whomever it is.

JMFHO

[Darb33 0]

This is easy.....the Vikings trading a Pro Bowl franchise quarterback for a 2nd round pick. Dumbest move since the Randy Moss deal.........which was the dumbest move since the Herchel Walker deal. Go Vikings!!

[Kitrick Taylor 0]

My top 4.

 

1. The contract given to Steve Hutchinson. Its simply the 2nd or 3rd least important position on the field. 1. FB, 2, OG or SSLB.

 

2. The Redskins overpaying for everyone in sight. They did not add one top notch player, but added numerous top contracts. Foolish.

 

3. Vikes letting Culpepper walk for a 2nd. IMO great players sometimes need to be catered too. Jimmy Johnson treated his stars differently, and it worked out pretty well for him. Childress should have gone down to meet with Culpepper and mend the fences. Now they no longer have one of the best QBs in the game.

 

4. Julian Peterson, Charles Woodson, and Lavar Arrington for continuing to allow the Postons to represent them. None are signed, and the FA money is dwindling.

[Bill E. 703]

My pick for the worst move is the 'skins signing Randle El to a $30M contract.

 

I do not know what Santana Moss is making now, but I'll bet his agent is licking his chops.