Javon Walker

[RaidersFan x18x 0]

i got him on my dynasty team and he doesnt want to play for green bay anymore.he said he would rather retire and that he wants to be traded.

 

so what do you guys say happens to him? i hope if he does end up getting traded he goes to the eagles.

[mggoilers 0]

I would think he gets dealt on draft day. I'm really pushing to trade for him in my leagues, I think he'll be solid late in the season. I think he's doing the right thing and holding out, a year too late but should get him moved.

[nobody 2,667]

If I was Green Bay I would try to trade him for fair value. If no one wanted to give me fair value, I'd give him the option of playing or retiring. I'd demand at least a 2nd rounder for him in a trade though.

[eefflrat 0]

If I was Green Bay I would try to trade him for fair value. If no one wanted to give me fair value, I'd give him the option of playing or retiring. I'd demand at least a 2nd rounder for him in a trade though.

more than ever the players are forcing the owner's hands in these dealings. the bottom line, Walker is a commodity, and a liability at the same time. They will not let him go for nothing, they want to get a return on their investment, he has one year left on his deal, trade him now and get something for him because next year he's gone for nothing, and they know it.

It's all posturing.

[Raider 84 29]

I cant see anyone giving up a 2nd after he blew out his knee last season. They should try to move him during the draff if they can.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

more than ever the players are forcing the owner's hands in these dealings. the bottom line, Walker is a commodity, and a liability at the same time. They will not let him go for nothing, they want to get a return on their investment, he has one year left on his deal, trade him now and get something for him because next year he's gone for nothing, and they know it.

It's all posturing.

 

As a Green Bay fan and as a Javon Walker fan, I hope they deal him. I think Green Bay should've paid the man. He was only going to get better with time. It's kind of screwed up that they wouldn't even talk to him about his contract situation. That would've pissed me off as a player. It's completely disrespectful. It would've been wise from GB's standpoint as well. They could've signed him to a large contract, long term. I don't understand why they wouldn't even address the situation. About a year ago I felt different, but I think he really got screwed here.

 

Of course now, with his injury - the Pack won't be getting much for him. They should talk to the Bills...they could swap disgruntled WR's

[eefflrat 0]

As a Green Bay fan and as a Javon Walker fan, I hope they deal him. I think Green Bay should've paid the man. He was only going to get better with time. It's kind of screwed up that they wouldn't even talk to him about his contract situation. That would've pissed me off as a player. It's completely disrespectful. It would've been wise from GB's standpoint as well. They could've signed him to a large contract, long term. I don't understand why they wouldn't even address the situation. About a year ago I felt different, but I think he really got screwed here.

 

Of course now, with his injury - the Pack won't be getting much for him. They should talk to the Bills...they could swap disgruntled WR's

That's just it, Walker came back even after Favre called him out, he knew he risked injury and his career, he bit the bullet, tore an ACL still gets paid like crap and now Favre smugly sits around leaving the team in limbo for the 2nd year in a row. I don't care what Favre has done for the team, he's not a force anymore and he's holding them back. Pay him the 3 Million as a way to say thanks and let him go.

[4thand26 0]

This is getting old..the argument about players holding out and teams not paying...As a Packers fan I say don't trade him unless you get a 2 rounder. Keep him this year and franchise him next year, then trade him (something like the Abraham deal). As a Packer fan who understands how Javon was going to be a Great WR for us for years...offer him a big front end loaded contract so Favre (who IS coming back) can have somone to throw to in his last year!!! If he's still pissed then deal him next year after he puts up 1500!

[adam smitty 0]

I hope he sits at home and lets his talent rot away until he realizes how big of a deuche he is.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

like everyone else is saying trade him for at least a 2nd....if they cant let him rot for a year...

 

i understand today players demand new contracts even tho the 1st place....but he was a 1st rounder somewhere in the 20s right?....what has he played like ? a late 1st rounder so why is he demanding more money?.....he had like one good year and just blew out his knee last year....why would we pay him?...

 

we arnt loosing much by letting him not play this year...

 

I would like to see him tarded but for the right price....otherwise just let him loose 2 years of his prime...

 

I dont know why after an injury he doesnt just come back for his last year get favre to come back so he can get good numbers and then prove he should get the big pay day next year?......either way by trade or sitting he wont get a big offer hes looking for this year....

[Phurfur 70]

The guy had one good year and he wants more money. He didn't give any back when he had the 2 mediocre years. Have you noticed how players who hold out tend to get hurt when they come back? Well Walker held out got hurt and now he is damaged goods. I'd take a second or early third for him and be done with him. Otherwise I guess he can retire.

[uubeee 0]

I have a completely different view. Pay the man. He's the best WR we have by far. Especially with Murphy and his career ending neck injury. Driver is getting older and Fergy is a 3rd WR at best. He did what most WR's do. Struggle for 2 year and break out year 3. I say mend fences and give our QB a good WR to throw too.

[DaveJ 0]

I'll take a flyer here... he lands in Denver. Denver wants an impact WR to take over for Rod Smith and they have plenty of draft picks to play with.

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 40]

I think his retirement talk is is a smoke screen and he will play.

 

That said, if he really is serious, he sits the year. If I am a GM for another team, why would I give up a 2nd (which TT will want) for a guy who:

Had 1 good year.

Is coming off an injury that could seriously affect his ability to play effectively at all.

Wants a front loaded top 3-5 WR money.

 

I know there's some crazy GM's out there but J Jones already has TO and Davis already has Moss. That thins the pool considerably.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

My point wasn't that GB should resign Javon now. My point was that they should've signed him before he got injured. He was a playmaker.I think he was the one receiver from the Packers who wasn't only good because he had Favre throwing to him. He has good size and athleticism.

[ROBOKOP 0]

I'll take a flyer here... he lands in Denver. Denver wants an impact WR to take over for Rod Smith and they have plenty of draft picks to play with.

 

This is actually a likely scenario, because Denver doesnt want all of their picks. First rounders are expensive to sign.

[football_scooter 0]

I hope he sits at home and lets his talent rot away until he realizes how big of a deuche he is.

Post of the day.

[Kitrick Taylor 0]

My point wasn't that GB should resign Javon now. My point was that they should've signed him before he got injured. He was a playmaker.I think he was the one receiver from the Packers who wasn't only good because he had Favre throwing to him. He has good size and athleticism.

 

What????

 

The Packers clearly made an excellent decision a year ago. They could have paid 15-20 Million in Bonus money to a WR who went out and tore his ACL in week 1. Cold? Maybe, but 15-20 Million is a ton of money for a guy who doesn't play all of 2005, and is a ? in 2006.

 

Walker CHOSE to sign a 6 year contract as a rookie. The sixth year is a player option. Walker will obviously void that year.

 

Essentially then it's a 5 year deal. He had the option as a rookie to take a four year deal or a five year deal. The five year deal we know guaranteed him 4.3 Million dollars, and he will collect 7.3 Million over the 5 years of the deal in total. The four year deal PROBABLY guaranteed him 3.2 Million or so, and would have paid him about 6.25 Million over the four years.

 

Javon took the security of 4.3 Million guaranteed instead of about 3.2 Million guaranteed in exchange for another year on his contract. He tried to hedge that a year ago, and the Packers wouldn't budge. The Packers chose wisely, and Javon didn't. Now he is bitter. Very Bitter.

[Fumbleweed 547]

I think Green Bay should've paid the man.

 

Nope. I don't agree. He had one very good season. Teams need to see a player go out and do it more than once before committing that kind of cash. You can't expect a team to go out and break the bank for you based on ONE season only.

 

Ever heard of Peerless Price?

[hoffdaddy 1]

I hope he retires.

 

Walker's gripe about Green Bay not taking care of players is clearly BS, as proven by the Aaron Kampan and William Henderson contracts.

 

Walker was underpaid, but would've gotten a better deal had he showed up last season and went about his business. Sound familiar? Yeah, that's what Kampan did.....

 

As such, I do not feel bad for him at all. He made the decision to hold out and be a jerk, he payed the price. Let his ass retire.

[Timinator 0]

Had Javon been able to play last year at a high level, I believe the team would have re-signed him midseason. They've done it before. Now, I don't know. The retirement talk is silly. I might be interested in seeing that threat pursued. I'm not even against paying the guy now if he agrees to incentives due to the injury.

 

Weird thing is that he wasn't even starting when he had the 'breakout' year--Javon's never been a starter in the NFL. And if that fact had to do with his not knowing enough of the playbook or not being able to block, the Packers certainly have the upper hand. Heck, if he sits, they only tie up the $600k anyway.

[Arsenal 3]

I guess I'm not even sure what Walker is looking for at this point. Does he want a new contract now? Does he simply want out regardless of what the Packers are willing to pay him? I always figured that this would be his year to negotiate a new contract. Obviously the injury complicates that to some degree, but I still think that could happen. The Packers obviously would want to keep him and not allow him to become a free agent if they can agree on something.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

Kitrick Taylor - my point was pre-injury. There was no way of knowing Walker was goint to tear his ACL. Hindsight is 20/20. I was saying Green Bay should've at least talked to him about re-negotiations. To not even address the issue, and ignore the player is a slap in the face. That's just my opinion. If he was asking for an obscene amount of money, then forget it. But they didn't have to ignore his request to just talk about it.

[DaveJ 0]

This is actually a likely scenario, because Denver doesnt want all of their picks. First rounders are expensive to sign.

 

Exactly.. but they are better than cash on draft day!

[hoffdaddy 1]

Kitrick Taylor - my point was pre-injury. There was no way of knowing Walker was goint to tear his ACL. Hindsight is 20/20. I was saying Green Bay should've at least talked to him about re-negotiations. To not even address the issue, and ignore the player is a slap in the face. That's just my opinion. If he was asking for an obscene amount of money, then forget it. But they didn't have to ignore his request to just talk about it.

 

That's the thing here. If you want a raise, to you go to your boss and bring it up, or spout off to your buddies about how you aren't showing up for work, they aren't paying you enough, and you feel disrespected. Walker made this a public pissing match, when all he really had to do was go to Ted Thompson's office and have a conversation.

[mozzy84 0]

I hope he gets traded, just because I have driver in my dynasty league and I like seeing the packers lose more of their good players. I could see the broncos, eagles, or jets as landing spots, I don't think he is going to sit the whole year, they will deal him before that happens. People say walker only had one good year, farve makes anybody look good and all that, but watching him play you could tell he was much more than just a good wide out imo.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

I don't know all the behind the scenes info here. But I'm pretty sure he made an attempt to talk to management about his contract situation, before he went to the media and showed his displeasure with the Packers refusal to talk about his contract situation. Seriously think about it...why would he be pissed at the Packers unless he tried to talk to them first?

 

And don't get me wrong...I don't agree with his "Rosenhaus Tactic" of crying like a little girl when he didn't get his way.I was just saying the issue should've been addressed.

[Crestwood 0]

What????

 

The Packers clearly made an excellent decision a year ago. They could have paid 15-20 Million in Bonus money to a WR who went out and tore his ACL in week 1. Cold? Maybe, but 15-20 Million is a ton of money for a guy who doesn't play all of 2005, and is a ? in 2006.

 

Walker CHOSE to sign a 6 year contract as a rookie. The sixth year is a player option. Walker will obviously void that year.

 

Essentially then it's a 5 year deal. He had the option as a rookie to take a four year deal or a five year deal. The five year deal we know guaranteed him 4.3 Million dollars, and he will collect 7.3 Million over the 5 years of the deal in total. The four year deal PROBABLY guaranteed him 3.2 Million or so, and would have paid him about 6.25 Million over the four years.

 

Javon took the security of 4.3 Million guaranteed instead of about 3.2 Million guaranteed in exchange for another year on his contract. He tried to hedge that a year ago, and the Packers wouldn't budge. The Packers chose wisely, and Javon didn't. Now he is bitter. Very Bitter.

 

are you gonna say that when he leaves town and leaves green bay with out a stud wr?

 

 

That's the thing here. If you want a raise, to you go to your boss and bring it up, or spout off to your buddies about how you aren't showing up for work, they aren't paying you enough, and you feel disrespected. Walker made this a public pissing match, when all he really had to do was go to Ted Thompson's office and have a conversation.

 

 

how do you know he didnt do that? i just tend to agree with walker on this one. 500,000 for a receiver as good as him is a rip off. and dont give me that "well, what about his first 2 years?" arguement/ ownership knows thats how long it usually takes for a wr to develop in the league, and thye factor that in when they offer a contract. either way, if i was a GB fan, i wont be too hard on him. he didnt like his contract, complained about, but when push came to shove, he did come back and play, and thats what counts

[hoffdaddy 1]

are you gonna say that when he leaves town and leaves green bay with out a stud wr?

how do you know he didnt do that? i just tend to agree with walker on this one. 500,000 for a receiver as good as him is a rip off. and dont give me that "well, what about his first 2 years?" arguement/ ownership knows thats how long it usually takes for a wr to develop in the league, and thye factor that in when they offer a contract. either way, if i was a GB fan, i wont be too hard on him. he didnt like his contract, complained about, but when push came to shove, he did come back and play, and thats what counts

 

I only know what's reported. And nothing I ever read said there was a face to face meeting. Walker went from feeling underpaid to holding out, that's it.

 

I said from the beginnign he was underpaid, but taking it public and acting like a whiney ###### means it's on him, not the Packers. I give him credit for showing up, sure.

[Philly Phan 0]

I hope he sits at home and lets his talent rot away until he realizes how big of a deuche he is.

 

 

Its OK....... T.O. has already signed with Dallas

 

 

[RaidersFan x18x 0]

I dont think that any player in the NFL would want to retire (unless you are getting old or carrer ending injury). walker is just using the retiring thing to try and get traded, if they dont trade him, i doubt it that he retires.

 

if somehow he does end up retireing, alls i got to say is ---

[Walter34 3]

Trade him to Da Bears for a 2nd rd pick

[RaidersFan x18x 0]

Trade him to Da Bears for a 2nd rd pick

 

 

 

 

that would boost groosmans value up a lot

[LunaTick 30]

We are talking the Packers organization.

 

The will do nothing until its too late and get very little.

 

Or

 

They stand their ground and get nothing at all.

[mark32esu 18]

there is a rumor that just started flyin around the eagles boards that walker just got approved for an insurance policy w/ the birds and a trade is under way. anyone hear anything about this? packers fans?

[slash 0]

I have a completely different view. Pay the man. He's the best WR we have by far. Especially with Murphy and his career ending neck injury. Driver is getting older and Fergy is a 3rd WR at best. He did what most WR's do. Struggle for 2 year and break out year 3. I say mend fences and give our QB a good WR to throw too.

 

 

ok.. what is it that you are smokin.. and why not share because it seems to be really good..?

 

What makes you think that J. walker is going to be even 75% of the reciever that he was 2 years ago. he is coming off of a acl injury which takes 2 years for it to be fully healed and even then it puts you at about 90%. name me one acl reconstructive surgery that the player has come back from the next year and put up big numbers.

If both walker and driver play every game next year... drive will be ahead of walker stat wise.

 

 

 

are you gonna say that when he leaves town and leaves green bay with out a stud wr?

how do you know he didnt do that? i just tend to agree with walker on this one. 500,000 for a receiver as good as him is a rip off. and dont give me that "well, what about his first 2 years?" arguement/ ownership knows thats how long it usually takes for a wr to develop in the league, and thye factor that in when they offer a contract. either way, if i was a GB fan, i wont be too hard on him. he didnt like his contract, complained about, but when push came to shove, he did come back and play, and thats what counts

 

i quote" and dont give me that "well, what about his first 2 years?" arguement/ ownership knows thats how long it usually takes for a wr to develop in the league, and thye factor that in when they offer a contract."

 

think about i.. i think you just defeated your own argument...

[GobbleDog 996]

Teams that could use a big name WR.....

 

MIN, BUF, DEN, NE, PHI, CLE, BAL, CHI, ATL, TEN, SF, KC, SD. Maybe STL now that Bruce is gone.

 

More teams than I would have thought..

[slash 0]

Teams that could use a big name WR.....

 

MIN, BUF, DEN, NE, PHI, CLE, BAL, CHI, ATL, TEN, SF, KC, SD. Maybe STL now that Bruce is gone.

 

More teams than I would have thought..

 

what makes anyone think that J. walker is going to be the kind of reciever that he was before getting hurt.

name me a stud wr, that blew out a knee and came back the next year and put up similar stats? or the year after or after that... I cant think of any...

 

at best he is a possession reciever with a chance of a big threat once in a long while for the next 3- 4years barring any other injuries. aka keyshawn.

 

so if i was the packers... i wouldnt pay him... and if i can get a 2nd round.. i will give him away wrapped up in a nice bow.

 

stop living in the past and enter the future please...

[GobbleDog 996]

I was just naming teams that could use a great WR. Who knows if Walker will ever be great again.

[DaveJ 0]

what makes anyone think that J. walker is going to be the kind of reciever that he was before getting hurt.

name me a stud wr, that blew out a knee and came back the next year and put up similar stats? or the year after or after that... I cant think of any...

 

at best he is a possession reciever with a chance of a big threat once in a long while for the next 3- 4years barring any other injuries. aka keyshawn.

 

so if i was the packers... i wouldnt pay him... and if i can get a 2nd round.. i will give him away wrapped up in a nice bow.

 

stop living in the past and enter the future please...

 

I know an ankle isn't a knee... but Steve Smith... tore ligaments and trashes his ankle and had a 'pretty good' year last year.

 

Clearly there are exceptions to the rule and its too early to tell how it will work out for Walker, but in this day and age I wouldn't say an injury like that kills his career. It DOES make one think twice about signing him though.