listen2me 23 1,873 Posted June 9, 2009 Tennis blows. Pwned. Thread))(())(( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted June 9, 2009 Also, McEnroe and Connors' personalities were fiery and argumentative. It was riveting television. I think this is key. In addition, we had Rocky 4-esque cold war battles of Evert vs. Navratalova, Lendl vs. others, etc. That being said, I find it interesting that both Woods and Fed have relatively blah personalities, and Fed has an arch-nemesis in Nadal (which Woods lacks, unless you count Phil, which is a huge stretch), yet Woods can single handedly drive the viewership and interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted June 9, 2009 A. - Nadal beat him at Wimbledon and the US Open last year B. ever once stop to think the reason no one seperated themselves like Fed is becasue they were all at the top 10 ever elite level? for the 10th time now the only legit elite player Fed has really played in their prime is Nadal and Nadal treats him like a step child. nadal reached the semis at the us open last year for the first time..andy murray beat him..lets not act as if making the semis equals beating roger.... the us open seems simple enough..but add the late nights..the heavy winds..the rowdy fans...near the end of a long season..it all spells doom for nadal...i wish he were healthy to see if hes around for his early exit in this years tourney...(knock the betting all u want..but after a great showing at wimbledon..people are high on rafa and i make $) andy murray is 6-3 vs federer...young guy..will be the next to be near the top.... are there any golfers who actually challenge tiger?.....sure, he plays the field for the first 3 days...but on sundays..its tiger vs 3-4 stiffs...jim furyk... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted June 9, 2009 I think this is key. In addition, we had Rocky 4-esque cold war battles of Evert vs. Navratalova, Lendl vs. others, etc. That being said, I find it interesting that both Woods and Fed have relatively blah personalities, and Fed has an arch-nemesis in Nadal (which Woods lacks, unless you count Phil, which is a huge stretch), yet Woods can single handedly drive the viewership and interest. the final sunday is golf usually wraps around around supper time..they do an epic job covering golf...the masters has no commercials for heavens sake... tennis finals sometimes ends at 9am...in ny..sometimes past 11pm or midnight...your 65 year old, out of shape crowd that golfs isnt going to go looking for tennis at 9 amor midnight... tennis is the better of the 2 to view in person..but golf is better suited for tv... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted June 9, 2009 Come on seriously Woods is the greatest Golfer there has ever been and it really isn't close. really, all time and not even close? wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted June 10, 2009 The correlation between golf and Tiger is well documented. In tennis, the problem here is that America sucks at it. I challenge anyone other than bmoney to, off the top of their head, rattle off the names of the two chicks who played in the French final. All I know is that it was two Russians not named Sharapova with a lot of z's in their names. And the American men totally suck ass. LPGA has a similar problem; South Korea has pretty much taken it over. We could embrace Sorenstam because she was kinda cute and looked like us round eyes, even if she wasn't Amerrrcun. they suck at it right now but we dominated it for along time Sampras , Mac , Connors , Agassi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted June 10, 2009 the final sunday is golf usually wraps around around supper time..they do an epic job covering golf...the masters has no commercials for heavens sake... tennis finals sometimes ends at 9am...in ny..sometimes past 11pm or midnight...your 65 year old, out of shape crowd that golfs isnt going to go looking for tennis at 9 amor midnight... tennis is the better of the 2 to view in person..but golf is better suited for tv... You keep talking about old, out of shape fans for golf. I don't know your age, but let's be real, you drive a car around all day, your only exercise is stepping out of the car to put 8 ounces of mail into a box, with maybe the occasional slow jog away from a cow that spooks you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted June 10, 2009 they suck at it right now but we dominated it for along time Sampras , Mac , Connors , Agassi Yeah, I said that, what is your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 10, 2009 nadal reached the semis at the us open last year for the first time..andy murray beat him..lets not act as if making the semis equals beating roger.... the us open seems simple enough..but add the late nights..the heavy winds..the rowdy fans...near the end of a long season..it all spells doom for nadal...i wish he were healthy to see if hes around for his early exit in this years tourney...(knock the betting all u want..but after a great showing at wimbledon..people are high on rafa and i make $) andy murray is 6-3 vs federer...young guy..will be the next to be near the top.... are there any golfers who actually challenge tiger?.....sure, he plays the field for the first 3 days...but on sundays..its tiger vs 3-4 stiffs...jim furyk... 3-4 stiffs huh? Yeah...lets see...2009 Masters...Cabrera, Phil, Perry, Campbell, Stricker, yes...Jim Furyk...all finished in the top 10 with Woods tied for 6th 4 off the winner. Yeah...those guys are stiffs compared to Robin Soderling. Seriously...you need to quit talking about Golf...its obvious you and Newbie have no freaking clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted June 10, 2009 3-4 stiffs huh?Yeah...lets see...2009 Masters...Cabrera, Phil, Perry, Campbell, Stricker, yes...Jim Furyk...all finished in the top 10 with Woods tied for 6th 4 off the winner. Yeah...those guys are stiffs compared to Robin Soderling. Seriously...you need to quit talking about Golf...its obvious you and Newbie have no freaking clue. Sorry, I couldn't understand you with Tiger's Wood in your mouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 10, 2009 Sorry, I couldn't understand you with Tiger's Wood in your mouth. So you have no real answer either? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted June 10, 2009 So you have no real answer either?Thanks My responses are chocked full or real answers, stats, and facts. I'm just giving you an ignorant reply to your ignorant notion that you know more than me about golf. Not being a Woods-knob-gobbler doesn't mean I don't know about golf. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted June 22, 2009 Federer wins the French, Woods goes another major without a win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted June 22, 2009 3-4 stiffs huh?Yeah...lets see...2009 Masters...Cabrera, Phil, Perry, Campbell, Stricker, yes...Jim Furyk...all finished in the top 10 with Woods tied for 6th 4 off the winner. Yeah...those guys are stiffs compared to Robin Soderling. who? is Robin a chick or a dude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted June 22, 2009 Let's see if Federer can do better than sixth-place in the Wimbledon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted June 22, 2009 3-4 stiffs huh?Yeah...lets see...2009 Masters...Cabrera, Phil, Perry, Campbell, Stricker, yes...Jim Furyk...all finished in the top 10 with Woods tied for 6th 4 off the winner. Yeah...those guys are stiffs compared to Robin Soderling. Seriously...you need to quit talking about Golf...its obvious you and Newbie have no freaking clue. I was going to simply say that Robin Soderling>>Lucas Glover, but it wouldn't have been apples-to-apples since Federer at least beat the fish that made a run in his tournament. Woods couldn't quite accomplish that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted June 22, 2009 I was going to simply say that Robin Soderling>>Lucas Glover, but it wouldn't have been apples-to-apples since Federer at least beat the fish that made a run in his tournament. Woods couldn't quite accomplish that. Golfers don't play against each other. IAT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 22, 2009 Golfers don't play against each other. IAT Sure they do, just not 1 on 1. (and match play) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted June 22, 2009 Sure they do, just not 1 on 1. (and match play) oh, are they allowed to block each others shots? hit the ball past their opponent so they can't hit it back at them? defend the cup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 22, 2009 oh, are they allowed to block each others shots? hit the ball past their opponent so they can't hit it back at them? defend the cup? I missed the part where you said golfers don't defend against each other. My apologies! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted June 22, 2009 no defense = not a sport Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 5, 2009 #15 What another incredibly classic final. Andy Roddick was a beast today, only lost his serve once and Federer still beat him. Federer > Woods Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 5, 2009 #15 What another incredibly classic final. Andy Roddick was a beast today, only lost his serve once and Federer still beat him. Federer > Woods Well, you know I agree with you, but let's not dwell on the number 15 too much, because Federer is nearing teh end of his tennis career, while Woods will still be competeing for major titles until he nears 50. Wood could end up with many more in a non-athletic sport like golf. How many holes of golf would they have to play to equal the endurance and athleticism that was needed bu the guys in today's Wimbledon final? 5000? 20,000? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 5, 2009 Well, you know I agree with you, but let's not dwell on the number 15 too much, because Federer is nearing teh end of his tennis career, while Woods will still be competeing for major titles until he nears 50. Wood could end up with many more in a non-athletic sport like golf.How many holes of golf would they have to play to equal the endurance and athleticism that was needed bu the guys in today's Wimbledon final? 5000? 20,000? Newbs. I never said at the end of their careers it would be Federer > woods When I made this thread it was to say that Federer was more dominant in Tennis than Woods was in golf. That was it. as it stands today Federer > Woods In a few years I am sure that won't be the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted July 5, 2009 Arguing over tennis and golf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,676 Posted July 5, 2009 Arguing over tennis and golf Yeah, like arguing what's better, watching grass grow or paint dry? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 5, 2009 Yeah, like arguing what's better, watching grass grow or paint dry? ...or Metallica play a concert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 5, 2009 Well, you know I agree with you, but let's not dwell on the number 15 too much, because Federer is nearing teh end of his tennis career, while Woods will still be competeing for major titles until he nears 50. Wood could end up with many more in a non-athletic sport like golf. of course tiger will...the Masters invite past champions back to play..that is part of this amazing field that the best have to face off against..nicklaus could come back next year and try it if he wanted...roger will not get invited to play in wimbledon once he retires..no chance to hit errant serves into the crowd like sam snead would do at augusta before they had him put to sleep... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 5, 2009 #15 What another incredibly classic final. Andy Roddick was a beast today, only lost his serve once and Federer still beat him. Federer > Woods It was quite amazing..no doubt about it..the only negative of the day was the Hawkeye system..something seems wrong with it...if that their replay system, it better be dead on accurate..... i do wish the us open would start matches later and eliminate the tiebreakers in the 5th set...what do i care if a bunch of new yorkers need to work the next day? fock you and your gary sheffield lovin azzes..ill move down to even better seats.... but 16-14 is better than 7-6 with a tiebreak anyday... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 5, 2009 My responses are chocked full or real answers, stats, and facts. I'm just giving you an ignorant reply to your ignorant notion that you know more than me about golf. Not being a Woods-knob-gobbler doesn't mean I don't know about golf. HTH i wonder when he comes up for air?...the man love for tiger makes him look quite foolish...its OK to admit that right now, federer> woods..hell, even woods says that right now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 5, 2009 i wonder when he comes up for air?...the man love for tiger makes him look quite foolish...its OK to admit that right now, federer> woods..hell, even woods says that right now... The fact that you responded to a post almost a month old...and it was a foolish one at that...pretty much read the thread...you and newbie are the 2 continuing to look foolish. And neither of you know a lick about golf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted July 5, 2009 Tiger comes up the 18th with a multi amputee soldier...about to win the tourney...all of his winnings here going to them...no contest Tiger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nadal >>>> Federer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 5, 2009 Federer - the greatest ever in the sport of tennis let me know when Tiger gets there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted July 5, 2009 Rod Laver - the greatest ever in the sport of tennis let me know when Tiger gets there. fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 5, 2009 Federer - the greatest ever in the sport of tennis let me know when Tiger gets there. Might take him a while...since he does not play professional tennis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 5, 2009 Might take him a while...since he does not play professional tennis. ...and because he's not nearly as dominant. Quick...name the guy who just kicked his ass in the Masters two weeks ago.... That's what i thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 5, 2009 ...and because he's not nearly as dominant. Quick...name the guy who just kicked his ass in the Masters two weeks ago.... That's what i thought. Kicked his ass? Oh...and it was Cabrera...not at all a nobody...pretty well accomplished player. Quick...name any decent Tennis player not named Nadal or Federer? Face it...the competition outside of Nadal right now sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 5, 2009 Kicked his ass?Oh...and it was Cabrera...not at all a nobody...pretty well accomplished player. Quick...name any decent Tennis player not named Nadal or Federer? Face it...the competition outside of Nadal right now sucks. Cabrera didn't win the Masters. Learn the sport would ya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted July 5, 2009 Cabrera didn't win the Masters. Learn the sport would ya? The Masters was not 2 weeks ago. Learn the sport, would ya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 5, 2009 The Masters was not 2 weeks ago. Learn the sport, would ya? Damn! I meant the Open. Gotta hate when a good ole fashioned Pwning turns around to bite you in the ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
