Saturday Night Beaver 2 Posted May 16, 2007 http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/05/15/baby.gun.ap/index.html CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- "Bubba" Ludwig can't walk, talk or open the refrigerator door -- but he does have his very own Illinois gun permit. The 10-month-old, whose given name is Howard David Ludwig, was issued a firearm owner's identification card after his father, Howard Ludwig, paid the $5 fee and filled out the application, not expecting to actually get one. The card lists the baby's height (2 feet, 3 inches), weight (20 pounds) and has a scribble where the signature should be. With some exceptions, the cards are required of any Illinois residents purchasing or possessing firearms or ammunition within the state. There are no age restrictions on the cards, an official said. Illinois State Police oversee the application process. Their purpose, said Lt. Scott Compton, is to keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons, those under an order of protection and those convicted of domestic violence. "Does a 10-month-old need a FOID card? No, but there are no restrictions under the act regarding age of applicants," he said. Ludwig, 30, of Chicago, applied for the card after his own father bought Bubba a 12-gauge Beretta shotgun as a gift. The weapon will probably be kept at Ludwig's father's house until the boy is at least 14. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,677 Posted May 16, 2007 As long as he isn't blind I got no beef with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted May 16, 2007 Countdown till the NRA starts touting the decrease in "candy from a baby" thefts in Chicago 10...9..8.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted May 16, 2007 No age restrictions? This is focking stupid. - Hear of School shootings much? You have to wait til 16 to buy cigarettes. You ahve to wait until 16 to drive a car (b/c it can be a "deadly weapon") You have to wait until 18 to vote. You have to wait until 21 to drink. ...But any distraught 9 y.o. can buy a gun? Does anybody else see the problem with this? Hope they change that law. Maybe something like Hunting Rifles at 15. Handguns at 18. Something - ANYthing would be an improvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saturday Night Beaver 2 Posted May 16, 2007 No age restrictions? This is focking stupid. - Hear of School shootings much? You have to wait til 16 to buy cigarettes. You ahve to wait until 16 to drive a car (b/c it can be a "deadly weapon") You have to wait until 18 to vote. You have to wait until 21 to drink. ...But any distraught 9 y.o. can buy a gun? Does anybody else see the problem with this? Hope they change that law. Maybe something like Hunting Rifles at 15. Handguns at 18. Something - ANYthing would be an improvement. It is insane, I agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted May 16, 2007 No age restrictions? This is focking stupid. - Hear of School shootings much? You have to wait til 16 to buy cigarettes. You ahve to wait until 16 to drive a car (b/c it can be a "deadly weapon") You have to wait until 18 to vote. You have to wait until 21 to drink. ...But any distraught 9 y.o. can buy a gun? Does anybody else see the problem with this? Hope they change that law. Maybe something like Hunting Rifles at 15. Handguns at 18. Something - ANYthing would be an improvement. First off you have to be 18 to buy cigarettes, Secondly he did not buy the gun. It is a collectible gun his grandfather gave to him so his father figured that in Illinois you have to have a permit to have a gun in your name so he applied for one for his son. This is not the type of gun you go and shoot rabits or squirls with. So before all of you jump to conclutions get the facts. God bless the NRA God Bless America and our rights as americans to own firearms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted May 16, 2007 Guns dont kill people, infants do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted May 16, 2007 First off you have to be 18 to buy cigarettes, Secondly he did not buy the gun. It is a collectible gun his grandfather gave to him so his father figured that in Illinois you have to have a permit to have a gun in your name so he applied for one for his son. This is not the type of gun you go and shoot rabits or squirls with. So before all of you jump to conclutions get the facts. God bless the NRA God Bless America and our rights as americans to own firearms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted May 16, 2007 First off you have to be 18 to buy cigarettes, Secondly he did not buy the gun. It is a collectible gun his grandfather gave to him so his father figured that in Illinois you have to have a permit to have a gun in your name so he applied for one for his son. This is not the type of gun you go and shoot rabits or squirls with. So before all of you jump to conclutions get the facts. First off, it depends on where you live as to the cigarette issue. Second, I don't think anybody's too worried about the specific pre-toddler in this case. It's the fact that the article says "There are no age restrictions on the cards" that has most reasonable people scratching their melons. You restrict all the things I've listed PLUS when kids can work, PLUS (in some places) CD's and Videos... ....But somehow GUNS are an "all ages" kinda thing? Nope. I think even most responsible NRA'ers would be a little shocked at that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpnov 0 Posted May 16, 2007 First off, it depends on where you live as to the cigarette issue. Second, I don't think anybody's too worried about the specific pre-toddler in this case. It's the fact that the article says "There are no age restrictions on the cards" that has most reasonable people scratching their melons. You restrict all the things I've listed PLUS when kids can work, PLUS (in some places) CD's and Videos... ....But somehow GUNS are an "all ages" kinda thing? Nope. I think even most responsible NRA'ers would be a little shocked at that one. Pretty sure that the card is just one of the requirements to own a gun in the state. Being of legal age , (18 long guns, 21 for pistols) is a second one that must be met, probably a background check as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted May 16, 2007 Ralphie's dad had one when he was 8 years old. I got my first shotgun when I turned 13. first deer with it 8mo later Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted May 16, 2007 Pretty sure that the card is just one of the requirements to own a gun in the state. Being of legal age , (18 long guns, 21 for pistols) is a second one that must be met, probably a background check as well. Excellent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted May 16, 2007 Ralphie's dad had one when he was 8 years old. I got my first shotgun when I turned 13. first deer with it 8mo later Excellent And I'm willing to bet you went hunting with your father and never shot up your school. Guns dont kill people, degenerates that dont know how to handle themselvs or guns, do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted May 16, 2007 Guns dont kill people, degenerates that dont know how to handle themselvs or guns, do. ...with guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pimptastic69 0 Posted May 16, 2007 If guns kill people, then ...Pencils miss spel words, cars make people drive drunk, spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,307 Posted May 16, 2007 You have to wait until 21 to drink. Wrong! Also, it would be funny if the dad got busted for forging a signature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted May 16, 2007 LMAO at some of you tools... The is no age restriction on obtaining a gun permit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted May 16, 2007 The baby is really Chuck Norris's kid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted May 16, 2007 I found it more bizarre last year when a dog got a Citi Bank card Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,307 Posted May 17, 2007 I found it more bizarre last year when a dog got a Citi Bank card Santos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted May 17, 2007 I know in MI you have to be 14 and go through a gun saftey course, like 2 weeks long kinda like driver's training, to get a gun. Still pretty nuts you can get a gun at 14, but can't buy a beer till your 21... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 40 Posted May 17, 2007 If you want to play the system, you can. There are goldfish who got life ins policies and the ins co's had to pay. This actually does not bother me. What does is how easy it is for street thugs to get hand guns. I am a big advocate of British law that basically says the penalties for crimes when using guns are HUGE compared to penalties without. This type thinking seems to make more sense. I don't care who owns a gun. I do care about what you do with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
