TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 2 weeks ago at work, this new hire walks up to me and says "what's the matter with that guy?" The guy he is referring to is my supervisor. I ask him why he is asking me and he says "the guy walks around with an attitude." I tell the new hire that the guy he is referring to is not my favorite person in the world and due to the supervisors several flaws (stealing company property, coming in late and leaving early, leaving in the middle of the day without management approval, etc.) the guy could stand to get a kick in the ass to get him in line. We both laugh and part ways. Flash forward to the end of the day, the big boss comes in to my office and asks me to come with him to the conference room. I walk in the room and low and behold there are 2 cops and a few representatives from my place of employment, and the new hire who approached me in the morning. Long story short, they put me on administrative leave with pay until they finish their investigation into my "threatening" my supervisor. No charges, just admin. leave???? They say it should take 3-4 days, this Friday will be 3 weeks. WTF? The story runs deeper then this from the perspective that I have been the squeaky wheel on the job because management there is a mess. I went to my big boss once and told him I am going to HR to file a complaint, and he told me not to and that he would handle it, and as usual he didn't. There have been enough "shady" things happening there where a lawyer would at the very least have an interest. I'm yet to speak with the investigator, but pending the outcome of my talk with him, litigation may be in the cards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted June 5, 2007 The bright side is, you have more time to post here. Martial artists should be careful what they say. :dunno: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted June 5, 2007 So the new hire ratted you out, and the supervisor is a focking chickenshit assh0le. Time to start looking for a new job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted June 5, 2007 Leave with pay? What the hell you b!tchin' about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 The bright side is, you have more time to post here. Martial artists should be careful what they say. :dunno: That's the thing. 2 days prior to the "incident" the new hire walks up to me and says "I hear you are taekwondo master" and I'm like " who told you that?" After a pause of a few seconds he says someone "told him at lunch" I proceeded to tell him not many people know I am involved in TKD and pretty much dismissed it. But now I feel like a have been set up a bit. Also when I walked into the "meeting" with the cops and whatnot, I looked over at the new hire and asked him what is going on, and he says "they made me do it". I find that to be a bit peculiar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted June 5, 2007 I have been the squeaky wheel on the job admit it, you're the one who sabotaged the fryolator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 3 Posted June 5, 2007 Sounds like no one likes you there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted June 5, 2007 Write a memo including all of the details as well as your concerns and mail it to your HR rep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 Sounds like no one likes you there. The chief engineer does not, and I have a hunch he is behind this. He is who the HR complaint was going to be about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy-set 39 Posted June 5, 2007 It sounds as if you were set up. He initiated the convo, you added your 2 cents and now you are in a pickle. Its kinda like Borat, he says something racist in an attempt to lower someones guard, and then they let rip. Thats gotta suck. It might be a good time to start proof reading the cover letter and resume Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 It sounds as if you were set up. He initiated the convo, you added your 2 cents and now you are in a pickle. Its kinda like Borat, he says something racist in an attempt to lower someones guard, and then they let rip. Thats gotta suck. It might be a good time to strat proofreading the cover letter and resume Done. Been on a few interviews already. A 3rd interview with one company and it looks promising. May get the call today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy-set 39 Posted June 5, 2007 admit it, you're the one who sabotaged the fryolator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted June 5, 2007 That's the thing. 2 days prior to the "incident" the new hire walks up to me and says "I hear you are taekwondo master" and I'm like " who told you that?" After a pause of a few seconds he says someone "told him at lunch" I proceeded to tell him not many people know I am involved in TKD and pretty much dismissed it. But now I feel like a have been set up a bit. Also when I walked into the "meeting" with the cops and whatnot, I looked over at the new hire and asked him what is going on, and he says "they made me do it". I find that to be a bit peculiar. Unrelated mostly, but: a few weeks ago in Barcelona on a company incentive trip... last night of the event, everyone is drunk. A former boss of mine (great guy, former West Point, about 6' 5" 240 so way bigger than me) grabbed me by the throat for no reason. His other hand was up high as well, so I calmly grabbed it and twisted it until his knees started to buckle and he let go. His face was like I presume they were talking about me doing martial arts, but I never confirmed it. I don't think anyone from my company will try that again though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 Write a memo including all of the details as well as your concerns and mail it to your HR rep. Done! Pending my interview/interrogation with the investigator, I will seek further action. Either through HR for severance and a referral letter or get an attorney. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted June 5, 2007 Mistake #1 - Trusting the clown who lets your boss get away w/all the crap you were complaining about and not going to HR. I went to my big boss once and told him I am going to HR to file a complaint, and he told me not to and that he would handle it, and as usual he didn't. Mistake #2 - Trusting the new guy (who may be out for YOUR job.) I tell the new hire that the guy he is referring to is not my favorite person in the world and due to the supervisors several flaws (stealing company property, coming in late and leaving early, leaving in the middle of the day without management approval, etc.) the guy could stand to get a kick in the ass to get him in line. Time to dust off the ol' resume and get ready to rat out the new guy, your boss, the big boss, the lead engineer and anyone else you have any dirt on in the company. ETA: They always say "don't burn your bridges", but I've never fully subscribed to that. I'm not suggesting you go out for hot wings and then crap all over someone's desk or anything, but there have definitely been times in my career when I've left a place and not worried about burning a bridge or two for the simple reason that I would never want to work w/said person ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 Unrelated mostly, but: a few weeks ago in Barcelona on a company incentive trip... last night of the event, everyone is drunk. A former boss of mine (great guy, former West Point, about 6' 5" 240 so way bigger than me) grabbed me by the throat for no reason. His other hand was up high as well, so I calmly grabbed it and twisted it until his knees started to buckle and he let go. His face was like I presume they were talking about me doing martial arts, but I never confirmed it. I don't think anyone from my company will try that again though. In my conversation with the cops, they said the guy, by law/definition, the new hire HAS to file a complaint. The cop says even if he and his partner were out having drinks and discussing work, and one of them made a comment such as mine, the would be required to report it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted June 5, 2007 Done. Been on a few interviews already. A 3rd interview with one company and it looks promising. May get the call today. Ditto what heavy set said. That all sucks Good luck with the prospects! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 Mistake #1 - Trusting the clown who lets your boss get away w/all the crap you were complaining about and not going to HR. Mistake #2 - Trusting the new guy (who may be out for YOUR job.) Time to dust off the ol' resume and get ready to rat out the new guy, your boss, the big boss, the lead engineer and anyone else you have any dirt on in the company. This is a definite! I have enough dirt to make this thing become a sh!t storm. And given the stance I am going to take, even if they said all is forgiven, how on earth can I go back there? We will see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted June 5, 2007 In my conversation with the cops, they said the guy, by law/definition, the new hire HAS to file a complaint. The cop says even if he and his partner were out having drinks and discussing work, and one of them made a comment such as mine, the would be required to report it. Sounds like one of those things you learn in new-hire HR training and then promptly ignore. Except this guy sounds like an asstard. I would at him every chance I got until you see little shiot stains on his pants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted June 5, 2007 Definitely sounds like you were set up. Good luck with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted June 5, 2007 Lesson to be learned: NEVER say anything in a work situation that you wouldn't want the person you are talking about to hear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted June 5, 2007 This is a definite! I have enough dirt to make this thing become a sh!t storm. And given the stance I am going to take, even if they said all is forgiven, how on earth can I go back there? We will see. If it is a public company, you may very well be legally obligated to report what you know. I learned that in training too. Karma's a biotch, ain't it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 Lesson to be learned: NEVER say anything in a work situation that you wouldn't want the person you are talking about to hear. It was such a tongue and cheek statement, it wouldn't have bothered me one way or the other if the guy the comment was intended for had heard it. 2 days prior I had gone to the big boss and told him about his supervisor stealing time (which is essentially stealing money), and stealing property. 2 days later I am "set up". Odd to say the least. If it is a public company, you may very well be legally obligated to report what you know. I learned that in training too. Karma's a biotch, ain't it. I work for the state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted June 5, 2007 I work for the state. HA! Even better. Go flip through your newspaper and pick out the lucky investigative journalist who's about to have a great story about state jobs and corruption fall into their lap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuckStupid 40 Posted June 5, 2007 so I calmly grabbed it and twisted it until his knees started to buckle and he let go. His face was like And then and then did you do this to sux as well? :lool: :hyper: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted June 5, 2007 HA! Even better. Go flip through your newspaper and pick out the lucky investigative journalist who's about to have a great story about state jobs and corruption fall into their lap. Rusty is driving to the airport as I type. The people of Buttmont have a right to know! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted June 5, 2007 You got setup, and setup well, you should have seen that coming brother..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,085 Posted June 5, 2007 And then and then did you do this to sux as well? :lool: :hyper: I did a 360 degree jump side kick and sent him flying over the bar. After which I grabbed the hottest girl in the place and focked her but good. Wait, that was Sux. And by girl I mean kat. That whole night is a littly fuzzy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 You got setup, and setup well, you should have seen that coming brother..... Perhaps. I guess my question is, does anybody feel the comments I made warrant the actions they took? Would this have even raised an eyebrow in your work place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted June 5, 2007 Learn, I mean really learn, the game of chess. This way, you will be better prepared for possible future opponent manuevers, thinking many steps ahead. So you don't get blindsided like this again. Paranoia is your friend. It is a tip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 Learn, I mean really learn, the game of chess. This way, you will be better prepared for possible future opponent manuevers, thinking many steps ahead. So you don't get blindsided like this again. Paranoia is your friend. It is a tip. Sound advice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted June 5, 2007 Perhaps. I guess my question is, does anybody feel the comments I made warrant the actions they took? Would this have even raised an eyebrow in your work place? The other day, I joked with the security guards of the building about coming into to work with explosives. They laughed, as it was phillybear just being phillybear. I'm glad they didn't search my backpack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 The other day, I joked with the security guards of the building about coming into to work with explosives. They laughed, as it was phillybear just being phillybear. I'm glad they didn't search my backpack. By definition that would be 1st degree terroristic threatening, which is a felony! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted June 5, 2007 People work in Hawaii? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 3 Posted June 5, 2007 Perhaps. I guess my question is, does anybody feel the comments I made warrant the actions they took? Would this have even raised an eyebrow in your work place? Just like in Nam, don't get to know the new guy for at least 6 months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted June 5, 2007 People work in Hawaii? There's a few of us. Just like in Nam, don't get to know the new guy for at least 6 months. Sound advice as well. Here is a side note on the new hire: he says he played guitar for Whitesnake and for Ozzy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted June 5, 2007 By definition that would be 1st degree terroristic threatening, which is a felony! Dead men donst be no telling no tales. Aaaarrrrr!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 3 Posted June 5, 2007 People work in Hawaii? Aloha means goodbye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted June 5, 2007 Reason number 1478 I love being self employed... FOCK EVERYONE You still should punch that guy in the face in front of his family. Interoffice drama seriously used to make me want to choke a biitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddlen 1 Posted June 5, 2007 huh, Hawaii? I am an engineer, is it cool to live there or does it start to suck pretty fast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
