5 Questions for President's Health Care Press Conference

[phillybear 366]

The GOP had 8 years to tackle the root causes. What wasteful spending did the GOP eliminate?

 

The Democrats had control of Congress 4 of the last 8 years.

 

BEEP. BEEP. HERE COMES THE FAILDOZER.

[FlaHawker 24]

Since 1968, democrats in congress have either blocked in committee or voted against every health care reform bills before Congress.

 

1972- The democratic majority in Congress refused to allow Nixon's national health insurance bill out of Committee.

 

1993 The Democratic majority in Congress refused to allow Clinton's National health insurance bill out of committee.

 

1998 - House Democrats voted overwhelmingly against the funding and starting the SCHIP States Children's Health Insurance Bill.

 

2004 - Democrats in Congress voted over whelmingly against providinprescriptionon drug coverage for senior citizens

To your previous comment... Blaming Pharma for making large profit is moronic: huge risks involved with taking a med through testing and drug trial stages - small chance of approval/go to market, only a limited amount of time until patent expires and generics are offered using the science/risk they paid for. Huge risk=Huge return.

 

Lets punish/demonize the companies who are working to cure diseases for turning a profit, but reward/look the other way when "non-profits" like ACORN rake in millions. What's ACORN's profit margin? What's their product offering?... oh ya fraud

But don't expect a response from Newbie. He doesn't even know if his ex-company is publicly traded.

[GettnHuge 2]

The GOP had 8 years to tackle the root causes. What wasteful spending did the GOP eliminate?

 

is it me or does every lib forget that twice during the Bush admin the Senate was Dem and the

last two years the House was as well.

 

but if you want to talk about tackling the causes then you're going to run into the same sort of fights they

had about Fannie&Freddie. Like F&F, lawyers own all the libs on the right committees. Even a slight minority

in a committee can stop pretty much anything. If there's any question, like F&F, they buy off a couple Repubs

and get their way every time all the time.

[NewbieJr 541]

But don't expect a response from Newbie. He doesn't even know CARE if his ex-company is publicly traded.

Fixed, and...

 

You are an obsession

I cannot sleep

I am a posession

Unopened at your feet

There is no balance

No equality

Be still

I will not accept defeat

 

I will have you

Yes I will have you

I will find a way and I will have you

Like a butterfly

A wild butterfly

I will collect you and capture you

 

You are an obsession

You're my obsession

Who do you want me to be

To make you sleep with me

You are an obsession

You're my obsession

Who do you want me to be

To make you sleep with me

[Johnny B Good 0]

The Democrats had control of Congress 4 of the last 8 years.

 

BEEP. BEEP. HERE COMES THE FAILDOZER.

 

 

How about 2 years and their so-called majority was slim in both houses. It was neither veto proof or filibuster proof so the Republican minority can block bills from coming to a vote and the President can veto bills.

[NewbieJr 541]

How about 2 years and their so-called majority was slim in both houses. It was neither veto proof or filibuster proof so the Republican minority can block bills from coming to a vote and the President can veto bills.

I think you're supposed to either type "Face" or some stupid mispelling of Fayledozer (or Fayuledozer, something really clever) after making a point. It seems to be the cool thing to do to some, I mean one people.

[phillybear 366]

The GOP had 8 years to tackle the root causes. What wasteful spending did the GOP eliminate?

 

 

How about 2 years and their so-called majority was slim in both houses. It was neither veto proof or filibuster proof so the Republican minority can block bills from coming to a vote and the President can veto bills.

 

FAIL. DOZER.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I mean one people.

 

And you wonder why you are getting low-balled by your ex-company.

[NewbieJr 541]

And you wonder why you are getting low-balled by your ex-company.

Yes I do. I've explained it many times. Pay attention.

[KSB2424 3,173]

The Senate will not vote on health care reform legislation before the August congressional recess, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday.

Hip Hip Hooray.

 

Push'm back. Push'm back. Waaaayyyy Back! :cheerleader:

[surferskin 31]

Hip Hip Hooray.

 

Push'm back. Push'm back. Waaaayyyy Back! :cheerleader:

Who says bitchin doesn't accomplish anything?

[Fah-Q 0]

How about 2 years and their so-called majority was slim in both houses. It was neither veto proof or filibuster proof so the Republican minority can block bills from coming to a vote and the President can veto bills.

 

 

How about Senate for 4 - House for 2

 

If the majority excuse was valid every controlling party since the Carter administration could use it.

[FlaHawker 24]

Hip Hip Hooray.

 

Push'm back. Push'm back. Waaaayyyy Back! :cheerleader:

A small victory for America.

[FlaHawker 24]

Fixed, and...

 

You are an obsession

I cannot sleep

I am a posession

Unopened at your feet

There is no balance

No equality

Be still

I will not accept defeat

 

I will have you

Yes I will have you

I will find a way and I will have you

Like a butterfly

A wild butterfly

I will collect you and capture you

 

You are an obsession

You're my obsession

Who do you want me to be

To make you sleep with me

You are an obsession

You're my obsession

Who do you want me to be

To make you sleep with me

Exactly the response I expected from you

[Strike 6,019]

Well, President Obama's plan needs to be criticized. I'm not talking about that though, I'm talking about the fact the Republicans seem to have some good alternative plans to Obama's plan. Again....they aren't doing a good job getting the word out. I'm just saying they could have impemented these plans years ago instead of waiting for Obama to make it an issue then start talking about it.

 

It's worth noting that the Dems have controlled congress for the last two plus years. It's not like they just got control when Obama was elected. If you're going to ask why the GOP didn't do anything make sure to include the Dems since they took control of congress. And I'm not pushing for one party or the other. Either one could or should do something. But what's being proposed is not what's necessary (except for small parts) IMO.

[NewbieJr 541]

Exactly the response I expected from you

Ummmm, you probably should expect this reply. If you continue to obsess with everything I do and follow me around, you can fully expect the same kind of response.

 

This isn't rocket science, stalkasaurus.

[GettnHuge 2]

Hip Hip Hooray.

 

Push'm back. Push'm back. Waaaayyyy Back! :cheerleader:

 

heh, pushing. I don't really listen to Rush but I tuned in and heard him pick out all the lies beyond health care

and trash the media for not calling him out on it...but at the end of his show he talked about how all of this govt

just won't fix anything. That it's like Osama and Biden are piloting the Jobs plans and Franks, Pelosi etc are pushing

people out the door without parachutes and telling them to just hope. And they just keep loading up and doing this

expecting ppl to eventually live. Then they get on the health care plane, deficit plane, etc. pretty good stuff. I guess

he's on greta VS tonight and gave a pretty attackful interview. I'll check itout

[FlaHawker 24]

Ummmm, you probably should expect this reply. If you continue to obsess with everything I do and follow me around, you can fully expect the same kind of response.

 

This isn't rocket science, stalkasaurus.

Well, I wouldn't exactly call it stalking. This is like a horrific accident on the turnpike. You just have to rubberneck. Your posts are just like twisted, burning metal. You just have to stop and look.

[NewbieJr 541]

Well, I wouldn't exactly call it stalking. This is like a horrific accident on the turnpike. You just have to rubberneck. Your posts are just like twisted, burning metal. You just have to stop and look.

Ok, stalkasaurus rex.

[gocolts 300]

The Senate will not vote on health care reform legislation before the August congressional recess, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday.

Hip Hip Hooray.

 

Push'm back. Push'm back. Waaaayyyy Back! :cheerleader:

Fockin A.

[GettnHuge 2]

pushem back to their constituents who will by then be better informed about this health care proposal and

will crush them with questions and opinions. Rush mentioned somethng about a liberal admitting that

those in congress are getting letters and emails and calls heavily against this bill and it's all talk radio's fault.

[MDC 7,882]

There is talk from the rightt and libertarian party in regards to medical savings accounts. It's actually on their websites. (I just looked).

 

There are ways and ideas out there to tackle the root problems.

 

I just read the Libertarian response. Pretty tough on Obama. The fangs are out.

 

I agree with some of these ideas, but the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress for the better part of 8 years and healthcare reform was never on the radar. I'd be surprised if healthcare came up as a topic once during their primary. They just don't have a healthcare policy. That's not a reason to vote for Obama's plan, but I wish the GOP would be honest enough to admit they see no problem with our healthcare system as is.

[GettnHuge 2]

I agree with some of these ideas, but the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress for the better part of 8 years and healthcare reform was never on the radar. I'd be surprised if healthcare came up as a topic once during their primary. They just don't have a healthcare policy. That's not a reason to vote for Obama's plan, but I wish the GOP would be honest enough to admit they see no problem with our healthcare system as is.

 

9-11

[MDC 7,882]

9-11

 

That was 8 years ago - time to get over it.

[Arthur the III 0]

Text of Health Care Bill:

http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/1...ext-071409.pdf

 

While scanning through the 1,018 page government mandated Health Care Bill, I noticed a very interested section labeled – “Reducing Health Disparities”. Health Disparities? Uh, oh! Where else have you heard “reducing disparities”? Probably from Affirmative Action programs used to unfairly boost enrollment of under qualified applications into job positions, unions, colleges, etc. Could this Health Care Bill be another affirmative action based government program posed to treat the majority as second class citizens in regards to their own health care?

 

A search for “Disparities” lead to page 125, there it notes that the government can spend and charge for items and services under the public health insurance option that seeks to a.) improve health outcomes b.) reduce health disparities (including racial, ethnic, and other disparities) [actual language from the bill], c) provide efficient and affordable care, etc. This the order in which these priorities are listed in – notice that “reduce health disparities” is before “provide efficient and affordable care”. It would seem that efficient and affordable care isn’t as important as reducing racial, ethnic, and other disparities.

 

How is this affirmative action Health Care going to work? Blacks have higher rates of heart disease, strokes, hypertension (high blood pressure), diabetes, certain forms of cancer, sickle cell anemia etc. Are Whites now going to be discriminated against for another group’s genetic predisposition to these diseases, their diet, how much they exercise, and how often they go to the doctor?

 

How far will this discrimination go? Will Whites be denied treatment or given less treatment to equalize out the statistics of minority groups? How about in medical research? In 2008, the Carleton University Student’s Association, in Ottawa, voted to drop a cystic fibrosis charity as a beneficiary of its annual fundraiser because they wrongly believed cystic fibrosis only afflicted White males prompting the student association to note the disease was not “inclusive” enough.

 

There are many reasons to be against this massive government intrusion into every American’s health, but the affirmative action laden bill truly makes this a very scary bill.

[Vikings4ever 568]

That's not a reason to vote for Obama's plan, but I wish the GOP would be honest enough to admit they see no problem with our healthcare system as is.

How many people think that the current health care system is OK?

 

Personally, I'm pissed that many people don't have to pay for the services they're provided.

 

The question is how to fix a system that can't realistically be fixed.

[NewbieJr 541]

How many people think that the current health care system is OK?

 

Personally, I'm pissed that many people don't have to pay for the services they're provided.

 

The question is how to fix a system that can't realistically be fixed.

That's the difference between the two parties. One is throwing up its hands and saying "it can't be fixed", while the other is attempting to fix it.

 

Maybe the doctors, health care facilities, and health insurers will see that we're on to them and pissed off about it and stop gouging the patients/customers and this won't be neccessary. Ok, I'm just dreaming.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

That's the difference between the two parties. One is throwing up its hands and saying "it can't be fixed", while the other is attempting to fix it.

 

Newbie read over this thread again, because I thought the same as you did in your post here. To me, it looks like Repubs have tried fixing healthcare for years and the Dems seem to block any reform that isn't a complete overhaul, seemingly only accepting healthcare run by the Federal Government.

 

To me, I don't want a complete overhaul. I want the government less involved in our daily lives, not more involved. This isn't a "me hating Barrack Obama issue" or a Democrat issue, this is just me not wanting the government to be involved in yet another aspect of my life. In no way am I an expert, but when I have the choice of the government controlling any aspect of my life, I will always say no.

[NewbieJr 541]

Newbie read over this thread again, because I thought the same as you did in your post here. To me, it looks like Repubs have tried fixing healthcare for years and the Dems seem to block any reform that isn't a complete overhaul, seemingly only accepting healthcare run by the Federal Government.

 

To me, I don't want a complete overhaul. I want the government less involved in our daily lives, not more involved. This isn't a "me hating Barrack Obama issue" or a Democrat issue, this is just me not wanting the government to be involved in yet another aspect of my life. In no way am I an expert, but when I have the choice of the government controlling any aspect of my life, I will always say no.

I did read the thread and I do understand that the Repubs tried to pass a few measures. I would have been 100% behind any bill that discouraged all the ridiculous lawsuits in the medical world. But that wouldn't have done a thing to change the unnecessary testing, unneeded prescriptions, and insurance company greed. The Repubs want to lead us to believe that the crazy prices of healthcare are due to malpractice lawsuits, but meanwhile, the top ten insurance companies have shown a 428 percent profit increase since 2000. Doctors earnings aren't public, but I suspect you'd see similar data.

 

The health care system, just like corporate America, has become ruined due to good old fashioned greed. The wealthy and fortunate have abused their power to become stinkingly wealthy at the expense of everyone else. Since they can't have any decency and police themselves, someone has to step in and smack their little hands.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Ok, stalkasaurus rex.

 

go for Stalkapotamus for your next one.