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[Joey Gladstone 33]

I would be fine with Pouncey. We would also be very fortunate to land Jimmy Smith.

[Fantasy Noob 10]

Jimmy Smith would be sweet too, but I think we could get a pretty decent corner in the free agent pool (slightly worried Smith is another trufant, a decent number 2 CB but not an elite shutdown #1CB). I really like the thought of two young studs on our offensive line anchoring it for the next decade and it might help keep Hasselbeck alive too. But if we could get an elite CB in the secondary with Thomas, that would let us bump trufant to secondary reciever and solidify the back half of the defense. I think either option would be great for us.

 

That's kind of how I see our priorities OL, CB, QB, WR, DL...man everything but line backers and one safety spot needs help, now I am depressed. Anyways kind of in that order, QB would be higher but I think Hasselbeck has another year or 2 in the tank if we can protect him. I think we put effectively a second rounder into Whitehurst so lets use him as the backup another year and search for a developmental QB in next years draft. Is anybody else concerned the Hasselbeck might leave? I really think if he got to San Fran they might make a deep playoff run and at this point of his career he would be tempted.

 

I don't want to trade for Kolb or Palmer as we need as many draft picks as we can get (worried Kolb is too expensive and Palmer is done). I hate to say it but our team just has too many holes to make it deep into the playoffs, a QB will not make the difference in a deep run for us. Our conference sucks enough that we can compete as is for the playoff spot, but against the elite teams we just have too many holes.

 

The front office did a great job of churning the roster and finding hungry young guys so maybe we can keep doing that to help speed the rebuild process. Still I am a believer in the draft and hope our scouting department is up to the challenge.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Jimmy Smith would be sweet too, but I think we could get a pretty decent corner in the free agent pool (slightly worried Smith is another trufant, a decent number 2 CB but not an elite shutdown #1CB). I really like the thought of two young studs on our offensive line anchoring it for the next decade and it might help keep Hasselbeck alive too. But if we could get an elite CB in the secondary with Thomas, that would let us bump trufant to secondary reciever and solidify the back half of the defense. I think either option would be great for us.

 

That's kind of how I see our priorities OL, CB, QB, WR, DL...man everything but line backers and one safety spot needs help, now I am depressed. Anyways kind of in that order, QB would be higher but I think Hasselbeck has another year or 2 in the tank if we can protect him. I think we put effectively a second rounder into Whitehurst so lets use him as the backup another year and search for a developmental QB in next years draft. Is anybody else concerned the Hasselbeck might leave? I really think if he got to San Fran they might make a deep playoff run and at this point of his career he would be tempted.

 

I don't want to trade for Kolb or Palmer as we need as many draft picks as we can get (worried Kolb is too expensive and Palmer is done). I hate to say it but our team just has too many holes to make it deep into the playoffs, a QB will not make the difference in a deep run for us. Our conference sucks enough that we can compete as is for the playoff spot, but against the elite teams we just have too many holes.

 

The front office did a great job of churning the roster and finding hungry young guys so maybe we can keep doing that to help speed the rebuild process. Still I am a believer in the draft and hope our scouting department is up to the challenge.

 

I agree with a lot of this.

 

I do think Smith is far more talented then Trufant. He's a bigger, better athlete with a ton of swagger and shutdown potential. The only reason he makes it out of the top 15 is because of character concerns. Trufant has always been more of an intangibles, sound-technique type guy.

 

I'm not worried at all about losing Hass. One of my all time favorite Seahawks and it would be nice if we could sign him to a reasonable 2 year deal as a bridge/mentor to somebody else. That being said, if another team wants to overpay a brittle, weak-armed game manager like him then adios. I'm ready to move forward aggressively and wouldn't care at all if he ended up in Arizona or Frisco. If they want to stunt the growth of their offenses and waste deep threats like Fitzgerald and Vernon Davis I won't shed one tear.

[Kopy 568]

I'll go and agree with you guys on the QB situation.

And say: As long as we don't bring in another vet, or use clipboard jesus, then I'll be OK with letting Hass walk.

 

If he leaves, it has to be for a rookie we hand the reigns over too. Otherwise, there's no point to move onto someone else.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

I'll go and agree with you guys on the QB situation.

And say: As long as we don't bring in another vet, or use clipboard jesus, then I'll be OK with letting Hass walk.

 

If he leaves, it has to be for a rookie we hand the reigns over too. Otherwise, there's no point to move onto someone else.

 

Thing is, if we draft Locker or Koepernick (Sp? the dude from Nevada) We'll need somebody to start this season as neither guy would be ready to see the field in 2011. In that case bringing in somebody like Gradowski (A Cable guy)to compete for stopgap duty with Whitehurst would be wise.

 

You were probably talking about a more long-term vet like Palmer, in which case I completely agree with you.

 

I also hope that there is enough of an offseason for us to make a move on Sidney Rice.

[Fantasy Noob 10]

I wouldnt mind overpaying for Hasselbeck a bit but the contract better be 2 years max or we could be screwed. ESPN's new mock draft has us grabbing Locker and J. Smith going right behind him to the Ravens, I am rapidly talking myself into Smith being the smart pick and hope if he is available we grab him.

 

I still dont get the love for Locker, he is just a horrible passer. He missed a lot of wide open recievers, a lot of that was when he was scrambling for his life but still if they are wide open a college QB should get it to them.

 

Of course in the interest of full disclosure I went to WSU so I could be letting my natural bias show, but I really think Locker is going to be a bust in the NFL (and have a journeyman MLB career in his late 20s). The WSU/UW rivalry is actually kind of funny up here, the UW does not really care or think about WSU till the apple cup. So WSU has this huge chip on its shoulder and we always talk tough, but the UW just kind of ignores us which gets us going even more.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

I wouldnt mind overpaying for Hasselbeck a bit but the contract better be 2 years max or we could be screwed. ESPN's new mock draft has us grabbing Locker and J. Smith going right behind him to the Ravens, I am rapidly talking myself into Smith being the smart pick and hope if he is available we grab him.

 

I still dont get the love for Locker, he is just a horrible passer. He missed a lot of wide open recievers, a lot of that was when he was scrambling for his life but still if they are wide open a college QB should get it to them.

 

Of course in the interest of full disclosure I went to WSU so I could be letting my natural bias show, but I really think Locker is going to be a bust in the NFL (and have a journeyman MLB career in his late 20s). The WSU/UW rivalry is actually kind of funny up here, the UW does not really care or think about WSU till the apple cup. So WSU has this huge chip on its shoulder and we always talk tough, but the UW just kind of ignores us which gets us going even more.

 

I live in WSU country, I know what you mean.

 

I dont hate Locker, but I wouldnt want to see him on the field until sometime into the 2012 season. I'd prefer him in the 2nd round, but there's no way he lasts until the 57th pick. Carroll knows more about the guy then anybody. If he feels comfortable taking him with the 25th pick, then so be it. I'd rather take Jimmy Smith or a lineman on either side of the ball (assuming Mallett's gone) and see how the 2nd round shakes out. Trading down and recouping the Whitehurst loss would be sweet too.

 

My wish list if we keep the 25th pick:

 

1. Mallett

2. Aldon Smith- possible, but likely gone before pick 20

3. Jimmy Smith

4. Cory Liuget

5. Stephen Paea

6. Pouncey

7. Sherrod

8. Torrey Smith- an outside the box thought

9. Muhammad Wilkerson

10. Brooks Reed- Great combine and the hype is picking up.

 

I'm assuming Tyron Smith, Carmini, Costanazo and Solder will all be off the board (I like Sherrod better then Solder anyways). Another guy I left off is Phil Taylor, who could be a nice backup/replacement for Cole. He strikes me as a guy who worked his ass off for the draft and will proceed only to do so again in contract years.

[Fantasy Noob 10]

I like that list, I wouldn't mind any of those players. Paea and Wilkerson would both be underated adds, I think with either of those two and Red Bryant would solidify the DL for years. No one could run on us with 2 of those three players at the center of the D.

[Hawkfin 32]

I live in WSU country, I know what you mean.

 

I dont hate Locker, but I wouldnt want to see him on the field until sometime into the 2012 season. I'd prefer him in the 2nd round, but there's no way he lasts until the 57th pick. Carroll knows more about the guy then anybody. If he feels comfortable taking him with the 25th pick, then so be it. I'd rather take Jimmy Smith or a lineman on either side of the ball (assuming Mallett's gone) and see how the 2nd round shakes out. Trading down and recouping the Whitehurst loss would be sweet too.

 

My wish list if we keep the 25th pick:

 

1. Mallett

2. Aldon Smith- possible, but likely gone before pick 20

3. Jimmy Smith

4. Cory Liuget

5. Stephen Paea

6. Pouncey

7. Sherrod

8. Torrey Smith- an outside the box thought

9. Muhammad Wilkerson

10. Brooks Reed- Great combine and the hype is picking up.

 

I'm assuming Tyron Smith, Carmini, Costanazo and Solder will all be off the board (I like Sherrod better then Solder anyways). Another guy I left off is Phil Taylor, who could be a nice backup/replacement for Cole. He strikes me as a guy who worked his ass off for the draft and will proceed only to do so again in contract years.

 

Nice list.....

Here is mine so far, although way to early still.

 

1. M. Ingram - if he some how drops you take him

2. Mallet (I think)

3. J. Smith (huge need - maybe my #1 when it's all said and done if available. I think we should go after Aso/CB Oakland as #1 free agent)

4. Puncey

5. QB - Locker, etc. (Whoever drops to us out of the top ranked)

6. OL - (Havn't studied enough yet, but there is allot of good ones)

7. WR - (If a good one drops. Jones is probably top 10 now I guess)

 

So early still... I'm doing a bunch of studying this weekend with my bro.

Oh also - Need to look at the Dline guys too. We need a great sack artist and pressure guy real bad too!

[Kopy 568]

I live in WSU country, I know what you mean.

 

I dont hate Locker, but I wouldnt want to see him on the field until sometime into the 2012 season. I'd prefer him in the 2nd round, but there's no way he lasts until the 57th pick. Carroll knows more about the guy then anybody. If he feels comfortable taking him with the 25th pick, then so be it. I'd rather take Jimmy Smith or a lineman on either side of the ball (assuming Mallett's gone) and see how the 2nd round shakes out. Trading down and recouping the Whitehurst loss would be sweet too.

 

My wish list if we keep the 25th pick:

 

1. Mallett

2. Aldon Smith- possible, but likely gone before pick 20

3. Jimmy Smith

4. Cory Liuget

5. Stephen Paea

6. Pouncey

7. Sherrod

8. Torrey Smith- an outside the box thought

9. Muhammad Wilkerson

10. Brooks Reed- Great combine and the hype is picking up.

 

I'm assuming Tyron Smith, Carmini, Costanazo and Solder will all be off the board (I like Sherrod better then Solder anyways). Another guy I left off is Phil Taylor, who could be a nice backup/replacement for Cole. He strikes me as a guy who worked his ass off for the draft and will proceed only to do so again in contract years.

 

This is where I'm at with Locker also. Carroll scouted him to play against him. So if he feels it's worth it, then so be it.

He should know him the best.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Titans interested in Hass?

[Gepetto 1,368]

Seahawks should just start Whitehurst all year and then they can get Luck with the first pick in the 2012 draft = QB problem solved.

[Fantasy Noob 10]

I hate to say it but that is what I am pulling for and the reason I do not want us to select a QB this year. We are already paying The Clipboard Jesus (greatest nickname ever) might as well give him a shot for the year. What really annoys me is the offensive coordinator does not adjust the plan to match the QB skill set, TCB Jesus has horrible accuracy on short throws but is supposed to have a strong arm. ESPN's analysis but it matches what I saw last year...it's troubling I cant remember any deep passes is our Oline that bad or our WR's that slow?. We roll him out alot so he is on the move then ask him to make short accurate throws, I may be an arm chair QB but that just sounds dumb.

 

I think if we could fix the O-line we might have something of a running game and then TCB Jesus would not look so bad, which is why I am really rooting for a high pick OL stud, sign a decent option and let Cable turn it into a top 10 line for the next few years.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Seahawks should just start Whitehurst all year and then they can get Luck with the first pick in the 2012 draft = QB problem solved.

 

You can never count on that happening, especially playing in the NFC West.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Ponder Bleh!

 

I could maybe stomach him at #57 with the other top 5 QBs already taken. Even then I'd rather take a shot on a guy like Pat Devlin in the 4th round or later.

 

His combine performance is the only positive thing I've been able to find on him. Strikes me as a poor man's Hasselbeck with already as much wear and tear.

[Hawkfin 32]

Me and my Brother did a ton of reasearch and what we like to call scouting this weekend.

Thought I'd share our views for our team:

(A bit long)

 

First - Jimmy Smith/CB.

I was almost forcing myself to like him before this and thought he might be a perfect pick for us and fills a huge need. I wanted to like him before going in. (I was even saying he might be my #1)

 

After this weekend, I don't want to touch this guy. We have basically eliminated him off our board and for sure the 1st round/probably 2nd. He's got huge character concerns if anybody does in this draft. Failed drug test, 2 arrest or 1 at least. He admitted one so he could be a liar. Personality issues as well. I can't remember now, but I thought injury past? Not sure about that. But, then there is tape. He plays slow and does not play to his combine speed. He gets blocked out of plays EASILY or basically shows little fight to throw his body around. He will fail at run support in my view. He does not look or play tuff. He serously needs some lifting work. Weak player basically. His coverage is very suspect too. I saw allot of times he was out of possition or just beat with ease.

I wouldn't touch him in the 1st.

I liked his combine speed and measureables - But, from what I saw and issues off the field. No way. PASS

In Fact, I would say the CB class looks really weak this year as a whole also. Stats DO NOT look impressive at all as well. I want a shutdown corner that can get INT.'s. Jimmy Smith is not that guy in our view.

 

Ok, now on to our man LOVE pick.

We LOVE Mallett. This guy might be the best QB in our view. Gabbert looks good, but the production isn't really there compared to Mallet. Although Gabbert probably deserves to be #1 and we have no issues with that. Newton - Yes maybe. But, not my style. All 3 would make a good pick for our 1st rounder if there.

(That might be the problem though - Lots of teams need a QB. I hope Mallett drops though)

Mallett is VERY impressive to us! The interviews and media stuff are blown WAY out of porportion. I watched all the video's on that stuff. I like his fire and passion. He tells it like it is. I have no problems with his media stuff.

This guy is the best deep ball passer in our view. He is NOT fast as we all know, but he IS elusive. Between his arm, quick release, and elusiveness in the pocket I think he could make a great QB. He can make every throw and he puts the ball in the perfect spot. Marino was slow. Rivers is pretty slow. Manning is too. He looks the part of a Manning to me. His int. are a bit of a concern, but he's also throwing allot and more then most others. He constantly gets 300 yard passing games. He has enough movement to have got like 4+ rushing TD's last season.

His balls are not ducks and rather strikes in perfect possition. He's huge so getting the ball batted down is not a issue. He played in a Pro Style offense which is important to me. His stats are among the top. Good accuracy. Combine very good other then the running. He also appeared to have tweaked something on the run, which could have caused the slow time as well as a horiable start. Opposition he played was good. I see NO issues.

I'm hoping for this pick for us. He's our #1. Fills a huge need of the future. He could come right in and start in our view.

 

Ok another player we hate that I've seen rumored for us. Ponder/QB

This guy is off our board also. There are far better options out there such as Stanzi who we both like allot.

Ponder has some nice movement and decent "but somewhat duck" arm. But, he's lacking across the board. There are some huge red flags.

He was hurt in like 2 games last year. Sucked in his bowl game where he didn't complete a pass until the 2nd qrt to where he got yanked.(Maybe still hurt - but accuracey is not there regardless especially the deep balls. He dinks and dunks and I've had enough of that with Hass. Throws high.

Most every game he was only completing a weak 12-15 times where he gets a whopping 150 yards it seemed on average. His production is not there to warrant a top pick. Stats do not add up. There is other things that I don't need to go into detail.

1st round pick - uh NO (Maybe a 4th-6th round pick for potential)

 

Another guy I want to talk about is Brandon Harris/CB Miami

We both LOVE this guy. (However, my brother is hoping for a bigger CB so he's disappointed by his size. But, he agrees that it's not even close between him and Jimmy SMith if we were to take a CB here)

But, he looks like the best CB next to Peterson. His speed is pretty fast. Measured height a little low for our liking. But, it's not horiable I don't think. It is nice to have that tall guy that can cover the big wides. But, this guy throws his body around. Awesome in run support. Fights through blocks and I never saw 1 missed tackle in all the film I saw. I'm also impressed with his cover skills. Teams stayed away from him. I think he can be that shut down corner for the most part! Given the weak position - I like this kid allot. Stats are still suspect, but he's one of the best. Even Peterson stats are not all that. Harris has some of the best stats at pass deflections I believe. He looks good. IF Mallett or maybe some of the Oline are gone that we really like, this pick would make me happy in the 1st. (He's our #2 CB)

I would go crazy if we landed Mallett and then Harris though.

 

Prince Amukamara - This guy is rated #2-3 - I like Harris better. Prince does have some very nice speed. He is also very much like Harris in run support. Cover skills are ok. But, there is some video of him where he just got absolutley torched by a WR. Pass Interf. too. He gets beat allot from what I saw. There is also talk that teams figured him out. They didn't shy away from him like they did against Harris. Reminds me of Trufont.

I'd rather have Harris for sure.

 

Gabe Carimi & Constonzo/LT - Could easily be guards I think with the size. Or heck, we could use more Tackles. Maybe a RT.

We love these 2 though. Gabe is our favorite. Both look like great LT's or anything on the line.

These guy's are probably gone in the draft for us, but if they fall they would be great players/Steal.

I won't go into detail - But, we like what we saw. Stats/Sizes/Tape

 

Derek Sheroud & Clint Boling - We like them also, just a tier down though.

 

These four are our 4 best Oline guys.

(Pouncey is #5, but we have some red flags and I think he wants to be a center. He will not be as good as his brother! I'll leave it at that)

For our round 2 - We do like some others such as Danny Watkins. But, not for our 1st rounder.

 

We also have a TON of WR's and RB's we like even though I can't see Hawks going that route.

Here is who we like after the top tier. (Ingram, Green, Jones who we did not look at)

 

RB's: Love Murrey, Loshoure, and Vareen

Like Halu.

 

WR's: Love Baldwin, Hankerson

Huge potential in Dwayne Harris & Jerrel Jernigan

Like Armon Binns, Greg Salas, and Ronald Johnson

 

Love to land 1 of these guys in our 4th. Wish we had a 3rd. Be happy to take them with our 2nd If even available.

 

Ok, to some it all up.

Here is our list "so far" of who we want with our late first round pick.

Still more research to be done.

 

Based off need of QB, CB, O-line. (Still have not done D-line completely yet)

We can wait on other positions. (Tried to focus on players in our range)

 

1. Ryan Mallett/QB (Gabbert and Newton options I guess)

2. Gabe Carimi/OT

3. Brandon Harris/CB

4. Anthony Castonzo/OT

5. Derek Sherrod/OT

6. Clint Boling/OG

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7. Have to look at Jake Locker here. (I'm still unsure though)

8. Mike Pouncey/OG or Danny Watkins/OT

9. I'd switch gears and take a skill position. Murrey or Loshoure at RB or Hankerson or Baldwin at WR.

NOTE - I'm sure there is some D-line to insert here also.

 

Guy's I DON'T want:

-Jimmy Smith

-I don't think Prince Amukamara

-Christian Ponder/Dalton/Devlin - I like Stanzi more

-Nate Solder

-Tyron Smith

-Titus Young

 

Enjoy the long read.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Pretty good stuff Hawkfin. I disagree with you on Jimmy Smith but I admit I haven't seen a whole lot of him in action. He did play on an atrocious defense, so I give him a bit of a Locker-esqe mulligan. Harris is solid, but tiny, I think his size is going to deter Carroll/Schneider. I believe he got worked pretty good in Miami's bowl game too.

 

We're definitely on the same page with Mallett and Ponder. I'm interested to see what you think of the D-line crop as thats who I've spent the most time studying.

[Hawkfin 32]

Pretty good stuff Hawkfin. I disagree with you on Jimmy Smith but I admit I haven't seen a whole lot of him in action. He did play on an atrocious defense, so I give him a bit of a Locker-esqe mulligan. Harris is solid, but tiny, I think his size is going to deter Carroll/Schneider. I believe he got worked pretty good in Miami's bowl game too.

 

We're definitely on the same page with Mallett and Ponder. I'm interested to see what you think of the D-line crop as thats who I've spent the most time studying.

I'll try and come up with something on the D-line soon although I'd like to sit down with my Brother and work together on it, and that might not happen for a couple weeks.....

 

To be honest I'm not sure I want to go that possition though. I like what our Dline was doing last year and based off the stats of all the D-line guy's I don't see a sack artist out there really. Maybe Quinn.

BUT, if the talent is there and we don't have other options then you have to look at the postion. So I'll come up with something and post it in the coming month.

 

I saw you're post earlier on mostly D-line and from what I did look at it looks pretty close to my liking.

 

You should serously look at Jimmy Smith. Open up some film work on games his team played against and then watch him. You'll see him almost standing around in run support or just get blocked out. Highlight video's arn't even that impressive if I remember right.

Looks like he does not want to get injured out there. Looks lazy. Looks weak. Pass def is weak too.

 

Then watch Harris and you'll see the opposite. I'll go back and look at his bowl game as I can't remember now. I actually thought they said he stood out though? Maybe not?

His size is still almost 5'11 I believe. That's like Trufont I think. Carrol didn't have a problem picking our small Safety.

I agree - I'd like a big guy but this guy looks good.

[Hawkfin 32]

Here is our D-line evaluation Gladstone. (Latest update)

 

We felt the Hawks have a more pressing need at DE then DT so that played a part. We think we need more of the edge pass rusher. Somebody to put major pressure on the QB's. Sack artist and a “Freeny” type player. We feel the Hawks already have some decent DT's (And DE's) but a sack artist is lacking in the group IF anything.

(Still feel QB, Oline, and CB are the biggest needs)

 

Quick notes on a few:

-Fairly - LOVE him. I’m sure he’ll be long gone though. (Along with Bowers)

 

-Next we also love Kerrigan. He's next overall on our DE/DT's board. His size is the only question in our mind. But, he looks big and strong enough at 260. He was tops at weight lifting in his class and his power shows up on tape as well. His size did not matter, as he still was able to bull rush. Had nice moves like a spin. He can be an edge rusher. He definitely shows enough speed and a motor with a never quit attitude. We like him for a DE and think he fits the edge rusher mold that we need. We see lots of NFL production years with him.

 

-We also like Quinn allot. He's definitely the edge rusher. Shows tons of speed and also enough size. We do have major questions about him though. This would be a RISK pick, but one I could make with our late pick. We think he'll fall in the draft. He had a serous tumor and then only 1 year of production as he got suspended? The tumor was just a scary thing! I guess that got resolved though from what we could find out. There is still some risk in our view as far as production also though. But, we do like him. I remember looking up our 4th round pick last year/DT from his school. This guy caught my eye real quick and I so much wanted him rather then what we got. Him and Kerrigan are similar and what we need. Quinn could be better then Kerrigan, but much more risk comes with him.

 

The next guy (All around good DE-DT) is C. Jordan. He's not the speed rusher, but more of a solid DE. Looks sometimes more like DT. We like him though. Very Solid. Could be really good even. Probably not the sack artist that I would like though.

 

JJ Watt looks solid too, but he’s no sack artist. I could do without. I like Jordan much better. Looks kind of slow to me. Luckily, he'll be gone too so don't have to worry about it.

 

Paea/DT – He’s a sleeper pick. We like him. He lifted the most and broke the records. Again, he’s not a sack guy. Little raw. Very powerful though!

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We hate Aldon Smith. He’s off our board. Just didn’t like what we saw on tape. I think most everybody else that I didn’t mention for the DE/DT’s are below this list also or we don’t like for our 1st round pick.

 

So to some it all up – Here is our "UPDATED LIST" of who we want the Hawks to look at for our 1st round pick:

1. R. Mallett/QB (Gabbert or Newton also)

2. Gabe/LT – He is going to be an all pro. Stud. Best Oline

3. Custonzo/LT – Very good, perfect for guard too even.

4. Kerrigan/DE – Like him allot!

5or9. Quinn/DE – He can be a sack artist. MUST make sure tumor checks out.

6. Sherrod/LT – He looks very solid on the line also.

7. Pouncey/C/G – Can’t find allot of tape on this guy? Kind of going off others/combines.

8. C. Jordan/DE – Not going to be sack artist. But, very solid on the line.

9. Harris/CB – I like this guy allot. My brother is just ok on him. More of a last resort pick though if others are gone. Size & Balance is the concern. We do have him as the #2 corner in this weak draft class.

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10. Locker – I think he might be off our board for the 1st round. Probably go #11. It would be an exciting pick, but major concerns.

11. Boling/OG or Watkins/OG – Still have not figured out who’s better yet? - (Rather have in the 2nd)

12. Paea/DT – Reach

 

(Don't like J. Smith, Prince, Tyrone Smith, Aldon Smith, Nate Solder, Titus Young, Ponder for a 1st rounder)

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Here is our D-line evaluation Gladstone. (Latest update)

 

We felt the Hawks have a more pressing need at DE then DT so that played a part. We think we need more of the edge pass rusher. Somebody to put major pressure on the QB's. Sack artist and a “Freeny” type player. We feel the Hawks already have some decent DT's (And DE's) but a sack artist is lacking in the group IF anything.

(Still feel QB, Oline, and CB are the biggest needs)

 

Quick notes on a few:

-Fairly - LOVE him. I’m sure he’ll be long gone though. (Along with Bowers)

 

-Next we also love Kerrigan. He's next overall on our DE/DT's board. His size is the only question in our mind. But, he looks big and strong enough at 260. He was tops at weight lifting in his class and his power shows up on tape as well. His size did not matter, as he still was able to bull rush. Had nice moves like a spin. He can be an edge rusher. He definitely shows enough speed and a motor with a never quit attitude. We like him for a DE and think he fits the edge rusher mold that we need. We see lots of NFL production years with him.

 

-We also like Quinn allot. He's definitely the edge rusher. Shows tons of speed and also enough size. We do have major questions about him though. This would be a RISK pick, but one I could make with our late pick. We think he'll fall in the draft. He had a serous tumor and then only 1 year of production as he got suspended? The tumor was just a scary thing! I guess that got resolved though from what we could find out. There is still some risk in our view as far as production also though. But, we do like him. I remember looking up our 4th round pick last year/DT from his school. This guy caught my eye real quick and I so much wanted him rather then what we got. Him and Kerrigan are similar and what we need. Quinn could be better then Kerrigan, but much more risk comes with him.

 

The next guy (All around good DE-DT) is C. Jordan. He's not the speed rusher, but more of a solid DE. Looks sometimes more like DT. We like him though. Very Solid. Could be really good even. Probably not the sack artist that I would like though.

 

JJ Watt looks solid too, but he’s no sack artist. I could do without. I like Jordan much better. Looks kind of slow to me. Luckily, he'll be gone too so don't have to worry about it.

 

Paea/DT – He’s a sleeper pick. We like him. He lifted the most and broke the records. Again, he’s not a sack guy. Little raw. Very powerful though!

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We hate Aldon Smith. He’s off our board. Just didn’t like what we saw on tape. I think most everybody else that I didn’t mention for the DE/DT’s are below this list also or we don’t like for our 1st round pick.

 

So to some it all up – Here is our "UPDATED LIST" of who we want the Hawks to look at for our 1st round pick:

1. R. Mallett/QB (Gabbert or Newton also)

2. Gabe/LT – He is going to be an all pro. Stud. Best Oline

3. Custonzo/LT – Very good, perfect for guard too even.

4. Kerrigan/DE – Like him allot!

5or9. Quinn/DE – He can be a sack artist. MUST make sure tumor checks out.

6. Sherrod/LT – He looks very solid on the line also.

7. Pouncey/C/G – Can’t find allot of tape on this guy? Kind of going off others/combines.

8. C. Jordan/DE – Not going to be sack artist. But, very solid on the line.

9. Harris/CB – I like this guy allot. My brother is just ok on him. More of a last resort pick though if others are gone. Size & Balance is the concern. We do have him as the #2 corner in this weak draft class.

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10. Locker – I think he might be off our board for the 1st round. Probably go #11. It would be an exciting pick, but major concerns.

11. Boling/OG or Watkins/OG – Still have not figured out who’s better yet? - (Rather have in the 2nd)

12. Paea/DT – Reach

 

(Don't like J. Smith, Prince, Tyrone Smith, Aldon Smith, Nate Solder, Titus Young, Ponder for a 1st rounder)

 

Aldon is pretty raw. I see a TON of potential and athleticism though. It might not happen right away, but I could see him being a FREAKISH beast out of the Leo. I'm still not sure if that's a position Caroll/Schneider want to invest anything in, or if they'll just keep stocking it with cheap vets who fit the scheme. If it's the latter, then forget about guys like Smith, Kerrigan (who like you, I've liked a lot, but have been reading isn't a great fit for the Leo) and Reed.

 

Some pretty good analysis. You spent a lot of time on guys Im sure will be long gone. Fairly and Quinn could drop but not to 25. With so many teams running a 3-4 there is no way Watt or Jordan will probably even get into the 20's. I guess stranger things have happened before.

 

Lately, it's been trendy to mock Locker to the Vikings and Mallett to Seattle. We'd be lucky to have a choice of either at our pick. Any talk of reaching for Ponder or Dalton at 25 makes me vomit in my mouth. I really like Pouncey (who just got rave reviews at his pro day) but I like a Watkins, Hudson or Wisnieski in the 2nd even more. Schneider worked under a GM that never spend high draft capitol on offensive linemen, so that could rule out any being picked by Seattle before the 4th round.

 

Luiget, Paea or Wilkenson should be nice, solid, productive picks at our spot. All this labor BS is starting to sour me on the NFL, so whoever we draft could very easily be sitting around doing nothing for more then a year. If that happens, I wont be around to watch them when both sides pull their heads out of their asses.

[Hawkfin 32]

Aldon is pretty raw. I see a TON of potential and athleticism though. It might not happen right away, but I could see him being a FREAKISH beast out of the Leo. I'm still not sure if that's a position Caroll/Schneider want to invest anything in, or if they'll just keep stocking it with cheap vets who fit the scheme. If it's the latter, then forget about guys like Smith, Kerrigan (who like you, I've liked a lot, but have been reading isn't a great fit for the Leo) and Reed.

 

Some pretty good analysis. You spent a lot of time on guys Im sure will be long gone. Fairly and Quinn could drop but not to 25. With so many teams running a 3-4 there is no way Watt or Jordan will probably even get into the 20's. I guess stranger things have happened before.

 

Lately, it's been trendy to mock Locker to the Vikings and Mallett to Seattle. We'd be lucky to have a choice of either at our pick. Any talk of reaching for Ponder or Dalton at 25 makes me vomit in my mouth. I really like Pouncey (who just got rave reviews at his pro day) but I like a Watkins, Hudson or Wisnieski in the 2nd even more. Schneider worked under a GM that never spend high draft capitol on offensive linemen, so that could rule out any being picked by Seattle before the 4th round.

 

Luiget, Paea or Wilkenson should be nice, solid, productive picks at our spot. All this labor BS is starting to sour me on the NFL, so whoever we draft could very easily be sitting around doing nothing for more then a year. If that happens, I wont be around to watch them when both sides pull their heads out of their asses.

 

Ya, we ARE spending allot of time on guy's that probably won't be there right now. We will dig deeper as it gets closer and then look at our 2nd round pick next. However, this info was about our 1st round pick only. We did not scout most of the projected 2nd rounders that much as we don't want to reach for them with our 1st. We usually did look at the top 5 rated per position though. We basically were just focusing in on that player that "could" drop too us that fits a need. A top 20 talent that might be availabe at our pick.

While they might be nice players, we rate Wilkerson and Luiget as 2nd rounders or players we don't want with our 1st. I did not mention them as we have Harris and Locker (#10-11) ahead of them. We did look at those 2 in praticular though.

We like Watkins, but again we see 2nd rounder not a lucky guy that dropped to us. We could trade down 20 spots and feel better about these type of picks.

 

But, should a Quinn or Kerrigan drop - Then this pick would feel great and be a steal and we like the player per our scouting. Hard to say for sure who will be there or won't at this point anyway?

 

And while the value for Aldon Smith might be there and potential like you said. We don't like him with what we saw on tape, etc. Based off what he brings to the table, we felt like it would make for a bad pick.

Personally, I think the DE/DT should be filled later in the draft anyway. But, I wanted to rate them.

And it stops at Jordan for us when talking about our 1st round pick.

[Portis26 0]

Peter King said Seattle has offered their 25th overall pick for KevIn Kolb, the only first round pick offered to the Eagles.

 

 

Citing sources, McLane confirmed Peter King's report that the Eagles have indeed been offered a first-rounder for Kolb. Seattle's interest in Kolb is nothing new, so it's not difficult to read tea leaves and suspect the Seahawks are the most interested team in the league. Just keep in mind that no players can be traded until there's a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

[Hawkfin 32]

Peter King said Seattle has offered their 25th overall pick for KevIn Kolb, the only first round pick offered to the Eagles.

 

 

Citing sources, McLane confirmed Peter King's report that the Eagles have indeed been offered a first-rounder for Kolb. Seattle's interest in Kolb is nothing new, so it's not difficult to read tea leaves and suspect the Seahawks are the most interested team in the league. Just keep in mind that no players can be traded until there's a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

:(

Stupid!

 

Eagles would be smart to take that. I don't want nothing to do with Kolb. He's proven jack. About as much as Whitehurst has. We could be set back a long time between the Whitehurst move and if this goes down! UGH

 

When can Seattle teams wake up and quit getting other peoples leftovers and garbage. We need to build this team through the drafts!

[Fantasy Noob 10]

I wouldnt mind getting Kolb for our 1st rounder, but I hope we dont give up anything else we need to rebuild/restock with draft picks. We have made a couple trades with the eagles the last couple years too, so there might be something to this.

 

I kinda suspect that the Eagles are likely leaking our name to get a higher bid from one of the other QB teams (Arizona and SF in spring to mind).

[Joey Gladstone 33]

I was more receptive to Kolb a few months ago. Reading some articles that actually break down the games he has played, I'm less impressed.

 

If Carroll thinks he's the guy to run our offense, I guess a late 1st isnt the end of the world. I'd definitely rather see it spent on Kolb then focking Ponder. I wouldnt pay a penny more then the 25th pick. If somebody else wants to offer more, let them have him.

[Gepetto 1,368]

Found this on nfl.com http://www.nflshop.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11082685

[Fantasy Noob 10]

That's awesome Gepetto, a gold coin to commemorate our 7-9 division title and playoff spanking of the Saints. I might actually buy one, thats going to be rare!

[Gepetto 1,368]

That's awesome Gepetto, a gold coin to commemorate our 7-9 division title and playoff spanking of the Saints. I might actually buy one, thats going to be rare!

 

I was reading over there at nfl.com and that huge ad was there so I thought I'd share with the 'Hawk crew.

[Kopy 568]

Fellas. Check out ESPN, and look for Sports Nation Madden cover vote.

Their voting for the cover of Madden 12 and Seattle has a vote.

 

(When your on espn, just type in Madden cover vote.)

 

Believe it or not. The 12th man. (Probably because we do'nt have anything better) But still.

 

Give us some votes.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Qwest changing its name

 

I know its all about corporate sponsership nowadays, but at least Qwest kept it simple. Its a gay time to be a Seahawks fan.

[WhiteWonder 2,737]

I think you guys have to be looking offensive line.

 

I actually really like Ponder but unless you reach for him, you're not likely to nab a top prospect. Matty Hass is still a good QB when kept upright and healthy so protecting him now and building a solid foundation to protect his eventual replacement makes sense.

 

And Marshawn Lynch is a pretty good back. People seem to forget that he was pretty darn good his first 2 seasons in Buffalo and is entering only his 5th year. Building up the offensive line helps pave the way for him to show his skills.

 

Beyond Okung, the line needs help. Max Unger could possibly play center? But Guard needs an upgrade. Pouncey, as others have mentioned, would seem to be a nice fit.

 

I don't see WR as a pressing need. It would be nice if Williams and Obomanu has speed but Golden Tate may still pan out. And this years WR class seems deep. They could target an Edmund Gates.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Fellas. Check out ESPN, and look for Sports Nation Madden cover vote.

Their voting for the cover of Madden 12 and Seattle has a vote.

 

(When your on espn, just type in Madden cover vote.)

 

Believe it or not. The 12th man. (Probably because we do'nt have anything better) But still.

 

Give us some votes.

 

We lost out to Willis. Niner fans need to see their team win something right? 1995 seems like it was forever ago. I'm pulling for Willis or Hines Ward to be next in line for the Madden curse.

[Kopy 568]

Well that just blows.

When I voted, we led 10-6

[e-factor 13]

Niner fans need to see their team win something right? 1995 seems like it was forever ago.

 

Not as long as never...............

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Not as long as never...............

 

How sweet it will be!

[e-factor 13]

How sweet it will be!

 

Yeah. My SF Giants finally did it and it was about the best feeling you can have as a fan of the team. Only took watching them 35 years (I started young)...........

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Yeah. My SF Giants finally did it and it was about the best feeling you can have as a fan of the team. Only took watching them 35 years (I started young)...........

 

They did it in exciting fashion too. Good young team.

[Hawkfin 32]

Here is some info on WHO the Seahawks have looked at and brought in. Might be interesting?

 

I think I did this last year, and while we didn't end up picking allot from the list (Can't remember for sure) I do believe we had Russel/LT in and we looked at Berry, even though Thomas was our next pick.

So anyway, here is what I found: (I'm happy they had Mallett in and were at his pro day as well )

(Not sure why not very many corners though?)

 

Official Visits:

Auburn quarterback Cam Newton

Hampton defensive tackle Kenrick Ellis

Boise State quarterback Mike Coughlin

Temple defensive tackle Muhammad Wilkerson

California safety Chris Conte

South Florida wide receiver Dontavia Bogan

Georgia defensive end Justin Houston

North Carolina tight end Ryan Taylor

Utah State safety Rajric Coleman

Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett

Long Island wide receiver Darnel Williams

USC linebacker Malcolm Smith

Michigan guard Stephen Schilling

Washington quarterback Jake Locker

Washington State LB Myron Beck

Eastern Washington CB Dante Calcote.

Arkansas State FS M.D. Jennings

Southern DT Jordan Miller

Arkansas Pine-Bluff WR Raymond Webber

Michigan TE Martell Webb

Georgia WR Kris Durham

Delaware S Anthony Walters

Yale FB/HB/TE Shane Bannon

 

 

Interest In/Attended Pro Day:

Montana State OL Michael Person

Utah OL Zane Taylor

South Alabama WR Courtney Smith

WR Wisconsin Steven's-Point Jared Jenkins

Lehigh G Will Rackley

Alabama QB Greg McElroy

Appalachian State FS Mark Legree

Clemson DT Jarvis Jenkins

Indiana RB Trea Burgess

Indiana CB Richard Council.

Oregon St DT Stephen Paea

West Virginia Wesleyan OL Shannon Breen

Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett

Central Missouri WR Jomorris Warren

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Was debating posting this, but since it seems like there is a little activity here

 

Mallett off Seattle's board, team high on Koapernick (Sp?)

 

Also the team really digs Pouncey. I love Staton's site but have no idea on the validity of his source.

[Hawkfin 32]

Was debating posting this, but since it seems like there is a little activity here

 

Mallett off Seattle's board, team hiigh on Koapernick (Sp?)

 

Also the team really digs Pouncey. I love Staton's site but have no idea on the validity of his source.

 

Stupid.

Probably cause we are going back to the west coast offense. I'm SO sick of that offense personally. I thought we were going to go away from that and run Denver's old system and go Deep & lots of play action.

Looks like we are right back into the same old mold we've always been. Might as well keep Hass then.

 

They are probably going to trade down and pick the 2nd tier QB or try for Kolb. Maybe try and recoup there waisted 3rd rounder back. (Or target CB after trading down)