JTB 52 Posted June 20, 2011 So I walk in to the local seafood shop to pick up some clams for a Father's Day feast. I am 3rd in line behind 2 women of color, with bad attitudes. The first ordered some type of fish and a pint of seafood salad. The bill game to $23 bucks and she paid with a "welfare" card. My blood preasure went up a bit seeing my tax dollars buying $12.00 per pound fresh fish and seafood salad. The next cranky b1tch gives her order....precooked male crabs smothered in old bay seasoning. The bill comes, $47.00 bucks and you guessed it. She whips out her green and yellow welfare card. FOR FREAKING CRABS! I step up to the counter and ask the clerk can I pay with cash or is welfare the only form of payment in here. The guy laughed and said all day every day welfare cards are used to buy all kinds of GOOD seafood. Am I overreacting or is this BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted June 20, 2011 So I walk in to the local seafood shop to pick up some clams for a Father's Day feast. I am 3rd in line behind 2 women of color, with bad attitudes. The first ordered some type of fish and a pint of seafood salad. The bill game to $23 bucks and she paid with a "welfare" card. My blood preasure went up a bit seeing my tax dollars buying $12.00 per pound fresh fish and seafood salad. The next cranky b1tch gives her order....precooked male crabs smothered in old bay seasoning. The bill comes, $47.00 bucks and you guessed it. She whips out her green and yellow welfare card. FOR FREAKING CRABS! I step up to the counter and ask the clerk can I pay with cash or is welfare the only form of payment in here. The guy laughed and said all day every day welfare cards are used to buy all kinds of GOOD seafood. Am I overreacting or is this BS. overreacting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted June 20, 2011 That is some bs. I see people buying fried chicken and pizza with welfare cards all the time at the convenience store, but I didn't know you could do that stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted June 20, 2011 So I walk in to the local seafood shop to pick up some clams for a Father's Day feast. I am 3rd in line behind 2 women of color, with bad attitudes. The first ordered some type of fish and a pint of seafood salad. The bill game to $23 bucks and she paid with a "welfare" card. My blood preasure went up a bit seeing my tax dollars buying $12.00 per pound fresh fish and seafood salad. The next cranky b1tch gives her order....precooked male crabs smothered in old bay seasoning. The bill comes, $47.00 bucks and you guessed it. She whips out her green and yellow welfare card. FOR FREAKING CRABS! I step up to the counter and ask the clerk can I pay with cash or is welfare the only form of payment in here. The guy laughed and said all day every day welfare cards are used to buy all kinds of GOOD seafood. Am I overreacting or is this BS. Vote for Conservatives. This is BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted June 20, 2011 overreacting. Thanks for your reply. I think it's BS because they are only given so much money each munf. If you spend money on seafood what other items can't be purchased because the money ran out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,736 Posted June 20, 2011 I was at the super a couple weeks ago. I was going to post this story, but I didn't bother. I guess this is a good time. guy in the store in front of me, maybe 55 or 60, perfectly healthy, walked fine. gets a few vegetables, the chick rings him up and he's digging through his pockets and wallet and I'm like WTF, hurry up. Finally finds his welfare card, pays like 4 bucks on his welfare card. No biggie yet. I'm walking out, the same guy is at the scratch ticket machine purchasing scratch tickets. of course he is, he's on welfare. Then I get to the parking lot and decide to walk slow to see what he's driving.. i don't recall what he was driving, but you better bet he had a handicapped tag hanging from the mirror. he gets in his car and proceeds to scratch the scratch tickets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voice_Of_Reason 0 Posted June 20, 2011 It's some BS. I watched a couple in front of me at the grocery store pay with welfare money. Kids didn't have shoes and were very dirty. I was feeling bad till I saw them outside getting into their brand new car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted June 20, 2011 Thanks for your reply. I think it's BS because they are only given so much money each munf. If you spend money on seafood what other items can't be purchased because the money ran out? If thats what they value more than regular stuff, whatever. If they can't buy other stuff, thats their problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted June 20, 2011 Thanks for your reply. I think it's BS because they are only given so much money each munf. If you spend money on seafood what other items can't be purchased because the money ran out? That's what's sad. They blew their real money on cigs and beer, then their welfare on one seafood blowout, now the kids get to eat ketchup on crackers for the rest of the month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted June 20, 2011 I don't think they get an unlimited amount of money to spend. They probably get a certain amount a month. So if they spend it all on one meal, they eat bread the rest of the month? I think you may be overreacting a little bit though. It's not like you saw them at morton's whipping out the welfare card to pay for dinner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted June 20, 2011 I don't think they get an unlimited amount of money to spend. They probably get a certain amount a month. So if they spend it all on one meal, they eat bread the rest of the month? I think you may be overreacting a little bit though. It's not like you saw them at morton's whipping out the welfare card to pay for dinner You are wrong. The kids still get fed very well. It's called breakfast, lunch and after school snacks paid for by........TAX DOLLARS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted June 20, 2011 Vote for Conservatives. This is BS. Exactly. This would have never happened three years ago under Bush's watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted June 20, 2011 Maybe they ate ketchup on saltines all month to save up for one decent meal... I severely doubt it, but its possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,652 Posted June 20, 2011 Exactly. This would have never happened three years ago under Bush's watch. Under Bush all welfare recips got were those Jap feces steaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted June 20, 2011 Exactly. This would have never happened three years ago under Bush's watch. Bush wasn't a Conservative. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 734 Posted June 20, 2011 It used to happen all the time at my college job. The "poor" single mother would use her WIC checks for free milk/bread/cheese, etc. Which wouldn't really get me going...maybe the dad ran out or it was an incest child or something But then some of them (not all) would jaunt on over to the service desk for a carton of cigs and $30 worth of scratch offs. Completely oblivious to the fact that the money could have been spent to buy her own damn food twice over. It must suck to have it so "hard". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted June 20, 2011 The only person I know on WIC/food stamps is the biggest conservative blowhard in my entire peer group. Poking holes in everything he says is obviously not too challenging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted June 20, 2011 It used to happen all the time at my college job. The "poor" single mother would use her WIC checks for free milk/bread/cheese, etc. Which wouldn't really get me going...maybe the dad ran out or it was an incest child or something But then some of them (not all) would jaunt on over to the service desk for a carton of cigs and $30 worth of scratch offs. Completely oblivious to the fact that the money could have been spent to buy her own damn food twice over. It must suck to have it so "hard". This is the rule; not the exception. It's obvious that leftist social policy is destructive and economically unfeasible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,859 Posted June 20, 2011 who cares? if they want to blow their welfare money on seafood, they may be retarded but thats their call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,846 Posted June 20, 2011 who cares? if they want to blow their welfare money on seafood, they may be retarded but thats their call. No it's focking not. It's OUR money. This is why I always say you don't give those people actual MONEY. You wanna give them a place to live. Fine. Food. Fine. But that's what you give them. You don't hand people who've never been responsible with money......actual money. That's just stupid. Oh, and here's a good one: $69 million in California welfare money drawn out of stateLas Vegas tops the list with $11.8 million spent at casinos or taken from ATMs, but transactions in Hawaii, Miami, Guam and elsewhere also raise questions. Officials say budget cuts hinder investigations. http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/04/local/la-me-welfare-20101004 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 833 Posted June 20, 2011 I may have told this story a couple of weeks ago - not a huge deal but along the same lines. I went into the liquor store and the couple ahead of me (of color) had about 4 or 5 bottles on the counter but they were not done shopping so they let me go ahead of them. He picks up some bottle and asks her if she wanted it and she replied yes but that one will have to wait until her disability check comes on the 15th..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted June 20, 2011 No it's focking not. It's OUR money. This is why I always say you don't give those people actual MONEY. You wanna give them a place to live. Fine. Food. Fine. But that's what you give them. You don't hand people who've never been responsible with money......actual money. That's just stupid. Oh, and here's a good one: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/04/local/la-me-welfare-20101004 My parents live in Memphis, and you wanna see some shiot, go to the casinos in Tunica around the first of the month. Kids left in cars, people cashing AFDC checks at the cage, all kinds of fun. Once, I saw some dude sitting in a parked car jerking off to pron on a dvd player in his car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,859 Posted June 20, 2011 No it's focking not. It's OUR money. This is why I always say you don't give those people actual MONEY. You wanna give them a place to live. Fine. Food. Fine. But that's what you give them. You don't hand people who've never been responsible with money......actual money. That's just stupid. Oh, and here's a good one: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/04/local/la-me-welfare-20101004 if you want to change welfare, thats fine but i dont get the issue with them using welfare for expensive seafood if it means they don't get to eat anything else. they can either spread out their welfare over a course of cheaper meals and be smart about it, or they can blow it all in one shot. Either way, it costs taxpayers the same. why should we worry ourselves if they are being smart or stupid with their handout? you have to understand i am talking about the simple issue of using welfare for seafood..... not the larger issue of welfare in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,846 Posted June 20, 2011 if you want to change welfare, thats fine but i dont get the issue with them using welfare for expensive seafood if it means they don't get to eat anything else. they can either spread out their welfare over a course of cheaper meals and be smart about it, or they can blow it all in one shot. Either way, it costs taxpayers the same. why should we worry ourselves if they are being smart or stupid with their handout? you have to understand i am talking about the simple issue of using welfare for seafood..... not the larger issue of welfare in general. If they can afford seafood we're giving them too much focking money. We aren't trying to buy them a Trump lifestyle with welfare. We're trying to prevent them from starving. But, to me, anything over $0 is too much. If we want to provide a safety net fine. Handing stupid irresponsible people money is just stoopid. And this example shows why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,859 Posted June 20, 2011 If they can afford seafood we're giving them too much focking money. We aren't trying to buy them a Trump lifestyle with welfare. We're trying to prevent them from starving. But, to me, anything over $0 is too much. If we want to provide a safety net fine. Handing stupid irresponsible people money is just stoopid. And this example shows why. again you are missing my point. blow all your welfare on one meal or spread it out the way it was intended? Either way it costs us the same. if you want to debate how we should allow them to use it, that is an entirely different subject than the one i am addressing. 1 big seafood meal does not mean we are giving them a trump lifestyle. Unless they can eat that way every night. which they cant. They can eat that way 1 night and then pretty much not eat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted June 20, 2011 If they can afford seafood we're giving them too much focking money. We aren't trying to buy them a Trump lifestyle with welfare. We're trying to prevent them from starving. But, to me, anything over $0 is too much. If we want to provide a safety net fine. Handing stupid irresponsible people money is just stoopid. And this example shows why. $23 isn't exactly a trump lifestyle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted June 20, 2011 $23 isn't exactly a trump lifestyle. Hell, if they know nikki, they can eat (admittedly rancid) seafood for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voice_Of_Reason 0 Posted June 20, 2011 if you want to change welfare, thats fine but i dont get the issue with them using welfare for expensive seafood if it means they don't get to eat anything else. they can either spread out their welfare over a course of cheaper meals and be smart about it, or they can blow it all in one shot. Either way, it costs taxpayers the same. why should we worry ourselves if they are being smart or stupid with their handout? you have to understand i am talking about the simple issue of using welfare for seafood..... not the larger issue of welfare in general. I'm curious as to what impacts blowing a large chunk of their money has on the rest of society? So if they have little money left over after a seafood blowout, who buys the rest of their months food? Churches? Shelters? Schools? Couldn't that money be better used helping others? Is it so bad to ask for a little effeciency when talking about handing out money to people who have shown little to no responsibility? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted June 20, 2011 $23 isn't exactly a trump lifestyle. Its irresponsible for someone who should be very carefully rationing their limited resources... this type of attitude is exactly whats wrong with entitlements... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,846 Posted June 20, 2011 $23 isn't exactly a trump lifestyle. It's all relative sweetie. That's one meal. If they bought less expensive items it would pay for several days or a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 734 Posted June 20, 2011 The thing is, there is no way to control or police welfare in general. It is an all or nothing deal. Now, we can control to an extent WHAT they spend their welfare money on (and some programs currently do). But we can't control what they spend other monies on (cash). It seems that the only way to clean up welfare is to get rid of it entirely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,736 Posted June 20, 2011 Its irresponsible for someone who should be very carefully rationing their limited resources... this type of attitude is exactly whats wrong with entitlements... PWNED! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted June 20, 2011 The thing is, there is no way to control or police welfare in general. It is an all or nothing deal. Now, we can control to an extent WHAT they spend their welfare money on (and some programs currently do). But we can't control what they spend other monies on (cash). It seems that the only way to clean up welfare is to get rid of it entirely. We give far more money to rich folks and corporations in bullsh!t tax breaks and loopholes, and nobody asks how they spend it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted June 20, 2011 I'm curious as to what impacts blowing a large chunk of their money has on the rest of society? So if they have little money left over after a seafood blowout, who buys the rest of their months food? Churches? Shelters? Schools? Couldn't that money be better used helping others? Is it so bad to ask for a little effeciency when talking about handing out money to people who have shown little to no responsibility? You nailed it with this post. I would like to add that our school systems (funded by tax revenue) also feeds these kids for free. This allows mom and dad to eat crabs because Tyrone got scrambled eggs and a ham sammich at school. Oh, without paying a freaking penny OR likely not paying property tax either. (I know the rent may include tax) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,846 Posted June 20, 2011 The thing is, there is no way to control or police welfare in general. It is an all or nothing deal. Now, we can control to an extent WHAT they spend their welfare money on (and some programs currently do). But we can't control what they spend other monies on (cash). It seems that the only way to clean up welfare is to get rid of it entirely. No. There are other solutions. Here is what I proposed in another thread: Here's an answer. Don't give people money. It's the equivalent of seeing a homeless guy on the street begging and just handing him money. You have no idea whether he'll use it on surviving, like for food, or for a bottle of Whiskey. So the smart thing in that situation is to give him a sub from subway instead. Then you can be reasonably sure he's getting something beneficial from you instead of wasteful. So I propose not giving people money. Set up shelters than anyone is welcome to come stay at as long as they need. In big warehouse buildings. Beds aplenty, separated by sheets or something similar. Not great accommodations but more than adequate to get by. Per person it's much cheaper than giving Laqueesha welfare for an apartment. Since you're saving a boatload of money and have everyone in the same place you can provide other services onsite to help them - basic health care, basic work training that you can coordinate with community needs, basic life training like money management skills, and all sorts of other things. This also takes out the distinction between those who need it and those who don't. By making it not so comfortable as having your own place you create an incentive for people to want to get out. For those incapable of working for whatever reason they can stay as long as they want/need. There are other nuances and variations on this that I've thought about but you get the picture. The bottom line is don't give people cash. I mean, people on welfare have shown an inability to care for themselves. Why is giving them cash a good idea? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted June 20, 2011 One word... Deportation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted June 20, 2011 One word... Deportation Africa doesn't want em either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted June 20, 2011 Africa doesn't want em either. Australia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted June 20, 2011 by what? I think he's agreeing with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites