tplbge 2 Posted November 24, 2011 Brother of Joe the Plummer? Who's Jake Plummer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted November 24, 2011 Don't mind Tebow thanking Jesus after a win, as long as Tebow tosses some blame his way following a loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted November 24, 2011 "Thank the lord" - really? Based on what Plummer said and you're agreement of it, I wouldn't think you would be thanking the "lord". I'm a sarcastic atheist. Plummer's a nitwit. "I don't hate him because of that; I just would rather not have to hear that every single time he takes a good snap or makes a good handoff ... Yeah, because that's what happens, Jake. Guy gets interviewed and says what hundreds of athletes/musicians/actors/celebrities say everytime they're interviewed for an award/accomplishment: some variation on "Well, first I have to thank my Lord, Jesus Christ..." Maybe Plummer, who walked away from the game due to his lack of passion, just has a problem with people who do have passion for something. Just to be clear: I don't believe in god. Don't go to church. Don't praise his name, thank him for things that happen in my life, or prosletize to the heathens. Hell, I don't say grace. Not a Florida or Denver fan. But I do admire people that have the strength and courage of their own convictions, especially when all indications are that those convictions are positive, come with no strings, and appear genuine. By all accounts, that's Tebow. If you truly have no gripe with someone other than the fact that they steadfastly believe in something and aren't ashamed to try to spread a positive message, you're just looking to criticize and can't find a legitimate reason to do so. It just intrigues me that Tebow gets more heat for saying "Jesus" on TV where anyone could be watching, than Lee Corso gets for saying "fock" in the same situation. Would you say the same thing about a devout Satanist? I know, Satanism is not a "positive" conviction like Christianity, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted November 24, 2011 Only God knows......for only He truly knows the heart. However, I do know (according to Christ) that it is "A narrow way" and "Few there be that find it". And let me guess... Only those few are going to Heaven right? Do you people even study religion at all or are you just sheeple that were indoctrinated into this faith? You do realize that the Bible was written by men? Oh yeah, they were "divinely inspired", that's right... just an FYI many of these "divinely inspired" writings were stolen from previous religions? Virgin births... Floods... Messiah's... Persecutions.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melissa Stark 1 Posted November 24, 2011 Thank the Lord Plummer got that off his chest. I agree with your comments stonewall. It is quite refreshing to hear him speak his mind than pay lip service to the media with boring standard quotes you hear every week. Tebow is a much better role model than Ryan Leaf or Lawrence Phillips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 24, 2011 Would you say the same thing about a devout Satanist? I know, Satanism is not a "positive" conviction like Christianity, right? Kind of answered your own question. While I would still admire someone for having the strength and courage of their convictions, the lack of a positive message...whether religious or secular... would impact the way I viewed the individual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted November 24, 2011 And let me guess... Only those few are going to Heaven right? Do you people even study religion at all or are you just sheeple that were indoctrinated into this faith? You do realize that the Bible was written by men? Oh yeah, they were "divinely inspired", that's right... just an FYI many of these "divinely inspired" writings were stolen from previous religions? Virgin births... Floods... Messiah's... Persecutions.... Not to mention, none of the apostles or pretty much anyone else who wrote the new testament even met Jesus. They just wrote down stories passed on by other dudes. We all played the "telephone game" when we were kids. One guy says "smelly fish is brown" to another guy and by the time it gets to the end of the line it's "yellow dog barks round". I respect Jake Plummer for his comments. It's refreshing to hear somebody stand up against these idiots. The world would be better off without Tim Tebow and anyone else who believes in god. Know god, no peace... no god, know peace. ETA: And LOL to everyone talking about the "positive message" of the bible. We must have read different books. "Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says."(1 Corinthians 14:34) "One of illegitimate birth shall not enter the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2) "If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Some super positive stuff going on in those versus! Especially to women. Those gay dudes who wrote the bible sure had it in for women! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclemercy 53 Posted November 24, 2011 Kind of answered your own question. While I would still admire someone for having the strength and courage of their convictions, the lack of a positive message...whether religious or secular... would impact the way I viewed the individual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 24, 2011 Tebow's response.. "If you're married, and you have a wife, and you really love your wife, is it good enough to only say to your wife I love her the day you get married? Or should you tell her every single day when you wake up and every opportunity?," Tebow said. "That's how I feel about my relationship with Jesus Christ." What a dork, and a pretty poor comparison. While I tell my wife multiple times a day that I love her, I don't feel the need to overdo it by telling her after I take out the trash, leave a healthy sh*t, mow the grass, etc. Just like most wives would eventually get tired of being smothered, I think a lot of fans/players are starting to feel smothered by it. Yeah, the comparison is goofy. If you professed your love for your wife in every interview, people would start to get sick of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robocardz 14 Posted November 24, 2011 Staying on topic - the New Testament of the Bible is one of the most accurate, factual texts in history. There are numerous scripts depicting Jesus from various sources - many of them pagan in Nature. I'm sure if we "read" the same book, you would know that I Corinthians is a foundational piece that sets standards for society of that day for the early church. Don't take it out if context. Let me guess women couldn't have leadership roles 2000 years ago - guess what they couldn't VOTE in our country just 100 years ago .... Romans 1:20 is clear .. You can believe or not... I'm not preaching just stating many comments on here are pure drivel !!! Looks like to me Tebow is winning some games.... Evidently, some of you simPly don't like that... DR RB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted November 24, 2011 Staying on topic - the New Testament of the Bible is one of the most accurate, factual texts in history. There are numerous scripts depicting Jesus from various sources - many of them pagan in Nature. I Corinthians is a foundational piece that sets standards for society of that day for the early church. Don't take it out if context. Let me guess women couldn't have leadership roles 2000 years ago - guess what they couldn't VOTE in our country just 100 years ago .... Romans 1:20 is clear .. You can believe or not... I'm not preaching just stating many comments on here are pure drivel !!! Looks like to me Tebow is winning some games.... Evidently, some of you simPly don't like that... DR RB They couldn't vote 100 years ago because our country was founded by and continues to be lead by religious oppressors. They're just doing the good books work. Luckily, thanks to atheism America is becoming a more progressive society. We're slowly starting to recognize human and individual rights. Now we just need to get these pesky 3rd world countries on board. Then we can all finally live in a truly peaceful, free society. Baby steps... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yanko 11 Posted November 24, 2011 Not to mention, none of the apostles or pretty much anyone else who wrote the new testament even met Jesus. They just wrote down stories passed on by other dudes. We all played the "telephone game" when we were kids. One guy says "smelly fish is brown" to another guy and by the time it gets to the end of the line it's "yellow dog barks round". I respect Jake Plummer for his comments. It's refreshing to hear somebody stand up against these idiots. The world would be better off without Tim Tebow and anyone else who believes in god. Know god, no peace... no god, know peace. ETA: And LOL to everyone talking about the "positive message" of the bible. We must have read different books. "Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says."(1 Corinthians 14:34) "One of illegitimate birth shall not enter the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2) "If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Some super positive stuff going on in those versus! Especially to women. Those gay dudes who wrote the bible sure had it in for women! You didn't get the memo. Positive = christian message Negative = any other message Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 24, 2011 I wonder what it's like to sit around waiting to be offended. Sounds like an awesome existence.. These people are the most useless people on the planet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted November 24, 2011 Kind of answered your own question. While I would still admire someone for having the strength and courage of their convictions, the lack of a positive message...whether religious or secular... would impact the way I viewed the individual. So a passionate Muslim who quoted the Koran or praised Allah in every public interaction would fit this description? You didn't get the memo. Positive = christian message Negative = any other message Amen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 24, 2011 Seriously? Too tough a concept for ya? Let's try a fr'instance: QB interviewed after big game says "First, I have to thank the Dark Lord, my Satanic master for this opportunity..." When pressed on the issue later, he says "Yep. Satan is my Master. Just felt it was time for me to share it with everyone". My first reaction is Next is "WOW! Where do you buy pants to fit balls that size?!?" Have to admire his chutzpah, and the fact that he didn't follow up with "I was misquoted...taken out of context". At least he's shown the courage to stand up for what he believes. In one moment the guy has alienated a huge portion of his potential fan base, killed opportunities with a segment of advertisers and opened himself to bashing from a bunch of people who don't agree with what he believes. Doesn't make me want to worship Satan just because he does. Kinda like Tebow. Like I've said, I don't believe in the existence of god. Don't think we all came from Adam and Eve. Just doesn't make sense to me. But I do subscribe to the notion of doing unto others as I would have them do unto me, which as I understand is the basic tenet of those truly interested in living a Christ-like life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 24, 2011 So a passionate Muslim who quoted the Koran or praised Allah in every public interaction would fit this description? Absolutely. Got no problem with it if he lives a life based on treating others the way he would want to be treated. I don't need religion to know the difference between right and wrong. Neither should anyone else, imo. But that doesn't preclude their right to speak out about their beliefs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 24, 2011 Luckily, thanks to atheism America is becoming a more progressive society. We're slowly starting to recognize human and individual rights. Like acknowledging Jesus in a post game interview if that's what you believe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted November 24, 2011 Seriously? Too tough a concept for ya? Let's try a fr'instance: QB interviewed after big game says "First, I have to thank the Dark Lord, my Satanic master for this opportunity..." When pressed on the issue later, he says "Yep. Satan is my Master. Just felt it was time for me to share it with everyone". My first reaction is Next is "WOW! Where do you buy pants to fit balls that size?!?" Have to admire his chutzpah, and the fact that he didn't follow up with "I was misquoted...taken out of context". At least he's shown the courage to stand up for what he believes. In one moment the guy has alienated a huge portion of his potential fan base, killed opportunities with a segment of advertisers and opened himself to bashing from a bunch of people who don't agree with what he believes. Doesn't make me want to worship Satan just because he does. Kinda like Tebow. Like I've said, I don't believe in the existence of god. Don't think we all came from Adam and Eve. Just doesn't make sense to me. But I do subscribe to the notion of doing unto others as I would have them do unto me, which as I understand is the basic tenet of those truly interested in living a Christ-like life. Fair enough. As a non believer, one thing that bothers me is rampant intolerance, a trait shared by far too many Christians. I know that is not a Christian teaching per se, but it is common enough in practice that it makes it tough to stomach the message when you know alternative beliefs would not be given the same courtesy… Absolutely. Got no problem with it if he lives a life based on treating others the way he would want to be treated. I don't need religion to know the difference between right and wrong. Neither should anyone else, imo. But that doesn't preclude their right to speak out about their beliefs. Sounds like you are atheist or agnostic, so of course you are rational This reminds me of a second peeve, the idea that non-religious=immoral, but I digress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted November 24, 2011 Like acknowledging Jesus in a post game interview if that's what you believe? Of course. And just like Plummer saying it's annoying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 24, 2011 Of course. And just like Plummer saying it's annoying... Absolutely. Every right to look the fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robocardz 14 Posted November 25, 2011 They couldn't vote 100 years ago because our country was founded by and continues to be lead by religious oppressors. They're just doing the good books work. Luckily, thanks to atheism America is becoming a more progressive society. We're slowly starting to recognize human and individual rights. Now we just need to get these pesky 3rd world countries on board. Then we can all finally live in a truly peaceful, free society. Baby steps... LOL - that's a first. America is becoming a better country because of Atheism.... Again - Romans 1:20 is clear .... "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Dr RB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted November 25, 2011 love is a battlefield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted November 25, 2011 LOL - that's a first. America is becoming a better country because of Atheism.... Again - Romans 1:20 is clear .... "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Dr RB I can quote versus from The Lord of the Rings all day. That doesn't make it a non-fiction book. It's a far more plausible story though... PS. You don't need to sign your posts. We can already see your name right there next to the wacky drivel you're vomiting out. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robocardz 14 Posted November 25, 2011 I can quote versus from The Lord of the Rings all day. That doesn't make it a non-fiction book. It's a far more plausible story though... PS. You don't need to sign your posts. We can already see your name right there next to the wacky drivel you're vomiting out. HTH Brother, not trying to get in a pissing contest - but I will call BS on statements that are assinine ... Saying America is a better country because of atheism is well ... Just that ... Assinine. PS - the non-fiction book I quoted is the most factual documented historical book in history. As stated above, it has been documented as well as the people in the new testament from various non-religious documents. Dr RB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted November 25, 2011 Give him credit for saying what a lot of people are thinking "Tebow -- regardless of whether I wish he'd just shut up after a game and go hug his teammates -- I think he's a winner, and I respect that about him," Plummer told KGME-AM in Phoenix. "I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he loves Jesus Christ, then I think I'll like him a little better." "I don't hate him because of that; I just would rather not have to hear that every single time he takes a good snap or makes a good handoff. ... Like, you know, I understand dude where you're coming from" http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8245751f/article/exbroncos-qb-plummer-not-hopping-on-tebow-bandwagon Did you feel the same way about Reggie White? But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782 People need to grow up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted November 25, 2011 Did you feel the same way about Reggie White? But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. – Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782 People need to grow up! Great quote. I like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclemercy 53 Posted November 25, 2011 Seriously? Too tough a concept for ya? Let's try a fr'instance: QB interviewed after big game says "First, I have to thank the Dark Lord, my Satanic master for this opportunity..." When pressed on the issue later, he says "Yep. Satan is my Master. Just felt it was time for me to share it with everyone". My first reaction is Next is "WOW! Where do you buy pants to fit balls that size?!?" Have to admire his chutzpah, and the fact that he didn't follow up with "I was misquoted...taken out of context". At least he's shown the courage to stand up for what he believes. In one moment the guy has alienated a huge portion of his potential fan base, killed opportunities with a segment of advertisers and opened himself to bashing from a bunch of people who don't agree with what he believes. Doesn't make me want to worship Satan just because he does. Kinda like Tebow. Like I've said, I don't believe in the existence of god. Don't think we all came from Adam and Eve. Just doesn't make sense to me. But I do subscribe to the notion of doing unto others as I would have them do unto me, which as I understand is the basic tenet of those truly interested in living a Christ-like life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted November 25, 2011 Brother, not trying to get in a pissing contest - but I will call BS on statements that are assinine ... Saying America is a better country because of atheism is well ... Just that ... Assinine. PS - the non-fiction book I quoted is the most factual documented historical book in history. As stated above, it has been documented as well as the people in the new testament from various non-religious documents. Dr RB Dr RB, with all due respect, you have no clue about what does and doesn't make this country better. Especially when you yourself are a part of the problem. I respectfully ask you to shut your trap, until your head is no longer in the sand. Religion serves little to no purpose in the modern world. Although science can't explain everything, it sure as hell explains most of the things that lead ancient people to invent god, in the first place. The rotation of the planet around the sun, weather patterns, tectonic plates, gravity, etc. etc. That's why god was created by man, after all. Pray to the sun, pray for rain, pray for no more floods, harvest, etc etc. The only purpose of god(s) in modern times is to provide solace to people who are afraid of death and to keep the poor and ignorant oppressed. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted November 25, 2011 oh boy... and the bible thumpers come out to be righteous and tell us we are poor saps for not believing in the story of jesus christ. as for tebow...he's openly religious...whether we share the same belief or not is irrelevant...he has the right to his beliefs and has to right to exercise them publically...its a free country and he's doing absolutely nothing wrong. it's his right and again i dont share his beleifs at all but i commend him for staying devoted in the public eye. just like its the right of people who share the same religion and are radical about it and demonstrate outside of soldiers funerals and bash homosexuals constantly...its their right to voice their opinion whether i agree with it or not...thats the way this country works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) LOL - that's a first. America is becoming a better country because of Atheism.... Again - Romans 1:20 is clear .... "For since the creation of the world Gods invisible qualitieshis eternal power and divine naturehave been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Dr RB this is where i take issue...you don't believe in his beliefs?? that's fine, but who the hell are you to say he's wrong and laugh at that then spew some crap from a fictional book... you don't have to share his beliefs at all nor does he have to share yours...but there is no need for you to jam it down his throat like a nutjob... i could get started on the 500 or so unaccounted years after jesus died that scriptures surfaced and the scientific facts that have proven that jesus is nothing but a man who was perched up centuries later as a god, which has been done numerous times over human history... but i won't even bother. and for the record i'm not aethiest so before you throw a line from a scripture at me, choose carefully. Edited November 25, 2011 by SexyRexy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclemercy 53 Posted November 25, 2011 this thread blows. please post pics of his girlfriends ######. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robocardz 14 Posted November 25, 2011 this is where i take issue...you don't believe in his beliefs?? that's fine, but who the hell are you to say he's wrong and laugh at that then spew some crap from a fictional book... you don't have to share his beliefs at all nor does he have to share yours...but there is no need for you to jam it down his throat like a nutjob... i could get started on the 500 or so unaccounted years after jesus died that scriptures surfaced and the scientific facts that have proven that jesus is nothing but a man who was perched up centuries later as a god, which has been done numerous times over human history... but i won't even bother. and for the record i'm not aethiest so before you throw a line from a scripture at me, choose carefully. Where am I jamming anything down his throat?? Where am I not respecting his personal beliefs? I am expressing my opinion that his Statement is assinine .... Certainly NOT calling him or you anything. Just stating I have a different belief... If you state that Michael Vick is a top tier QB, I disagree. It just doesn't have societal overtones. If you take the time to read the thread, I was NOT the one who brought out bible verses trying to make an argument. No need to worry, I won't "throw" anything at you .... LOL Happy Thanksgiving!!! Dr RB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robocardz 14 Posted November 25, 2011 Dr RB, with all due respect, you have no clue about what does and doesn't make this country better. Especially when you yourself are a part of the problem. I respectfully ask you to shut your trap, until your head is no longer in the sand. Religion serves little to no purpose in the modern world. Although science can't explain everything, it sure as hell explains most of the things that lead ancient people to invent god, in the first place. The rotation of the planet around the sun, weather patterns, tectonic plates, gravity, etc. etc. That's why god was created by man, after all. Pray to the sun, pray for rain, pray for no more floods, harvest, etc etc. The only purpose of god(s) in modern times is to provide solace to people who are afraid of death and to keep the poor and ignorant oppressed. HTH. Mobb - that opinion above is perfectly fine. We just disagree. However, when you say shut your trap and get your head out of the sand, it certainly seems that you feel you can put out subjective statements and have a problem when someone else does the same?? With all due respect .... Happy Thanksgiving!! Dr RB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted November 25, 2011 Mobb - that opinion above is perfectly fine. We just disagree. However, when you say shut your trap and get your head out of the sand, it certainly seems that you feel you can put out subjective statements and have a problem when someone else does the same?? With all due respect .... Happy Thanksgiving!! Dr RB kind of like when you lol'd when someone said america is a better country because more people are going the atheism way?!?!?!?! Guess loling is not the same as telling someone to shut up, but the point still remains. Just so we're clear, I hope you know this. Religious nuts have, throughout history, been intolerant of any other viewpoints than theirs. Including those of other faiths. So before you going pointing fingers, get your facts straight. I know this stuff is not written in that most accurate historical book you've referenced, but that doesn't make it any less factual... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted November 25, 2011 Not to mention, none of the apostles or pretty much anyone else who wrote the new testament even met Jesus. They just wrote down stories passed on by other dudes. We all played the "telephone game" when we were kids. One guy says "smelly fish is brown" to another guy and by the time it gets to the end of the line it's "yellow dog barks round". What? Indian Jones & Short-Round? Some men are just more believable about things than others...and somehow less crazy for their beliefs. It's a fine line between Jesus and David Koresh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted November 25, 2011 Religion serves little to no purpose in the modern world. Although science can't explain everything, Like the earth is flat, MMGW, etc,. etc, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….” • Life Magazine, January 1970 “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’” • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” • Sen. Gaylord Nelson “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” • Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University “We have about five more years at the outside to do something.” • Kenneth Watt, ecologist “Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” • George Wald, Harvard Biologist “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” • Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.” • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist “Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist “We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.” • Martin Litton, Sierra Club director “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.” • Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.” • New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day "In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish." Ehrlich, speech during Earth Day, 1970 "Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000." Christian Science Monitor, June 8, 1972. "[by] 1995, the greenhouse effect would be desolating the heartlands of North America and Eurasia with horrific drought, causing crop failures and food riots…[by 1996] The Platte River of Nebraska would be dry, while a continent-wide black blizzard of prairie topsoil will stop traffic on interstates, strip paint from houses and shut down computers." Michael Oppenheimer, published in "Dead Heat," St. Martin's Press, 1990. Within a few years "children just aren't going to know what snow is." Snowfall will be "a very rare and exciting event." Dr. David Viner, senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, interviewed by the UK Independent, March 20, 2000. "By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people ... If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000." Ehrlich, Speech at British Institute For Biology, September Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclemercy 53 Posted November 25, 2011 What? Indian Jones & Short-Round? Some men are just more believable about things than others...and somehow less crazy for their beliefs. It's a fine line between Jesus and David Koresh... first rds on me. next two are on you. from there im sure jesus has our back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted November 26, 2011 I used to believe in god. But after all my fantasy injuries this season...there can be no god. I started Tebow the past two weeks. If he can throw some TDs this week, he can preach about aliens and jc and the Easter bunny and I've got his back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted November 26, 2011 first rds on me. next two are on you. from there im sure jesus has our back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,415 Posted November 26, 2011 Tim Tebow is on the Sports Illustrated cover this week with the headline: "TIM TEBOW DEMANDS...THAT YOU WATCH. BUT DO YOU BELIEVE?" And I'm starting him in my fantasy league. He could be doomed this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites