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I played last Monday in my league, I never have struck the ball better, I did not mishit a single shot.

 

9 holes I 3 putted 3 focking times.

 

I have been using the GolfLogix app all year for distances and to keep track of my stats.

 

 

On the year

 

I am hitting 54% of fairways

23% GIR

20.5 avg putts a round (9 holes) with 10 3+ putts :wall:

8% scrambling

I use that app love the stats it gives you. :thumbsup:

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Rounds played: 24

Low Round: 81

High Round: 95

Average Score: 88

Handicap: 13.8

 

59% Fairways hit

33% Greens in regulation

37 putts per round

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Rounds played: 24

Low Round: 81

High Round: 95

Average Score: 88

Handicap: 13.8

 

59% Fairways hit

33% Greens in regulation

37 putts per round

 

you putt like me. complete and utter crap

 

2+ putts per hole is rough :(

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you putt like me. complete and utter crap

 

2+ putts per hole is rough :(

I blame it on the fact I play about 5 courses near my home and all seem to have different greens. Two have these championship Bermuda and are lightening fast, one is muni type with slow ass greens. The other two are in the middle. It's hard when you putt on inconsistent greens. But yeah I have more 3 jacks than one putts. :(

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I blame it on the fact I play about 5 courses near my home and all seem to have different greens. Two have these championship Bermuda and are lightening fast, one is muni type and slow ass greens. The other two are in the middle. It's hard when you putt on inconsistent green. But yeah I have more 3 jacks than one putts. :(

Thats why handicaps are so bogus to me... I have a golf buddy who is an 11HCP but he plays like a 6, reason being is that he is constantly playing new courses he's never played before. He has already put in 30+ rounds this year... If he was constantly playing his home club he'd be well into single digits...

 

You could be a single digit HCP but play all the time on one course, then you go to a new course and the HCP is useless

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Thats why handicaps are so bogus to me... I have a golf buddy who is an 11HCP but he plays like a 6, reason being is that he is constantly playing new courses he's never played before. He has already put in 30+ rounds this year... If he was constantly playing his home club he'd be well into single digits...

 

You could be a single digit HCP but play all the time on one course, then you go to a new course and the HCP is useless

 

I haven't played on a green yet this year that isn't punched. Like putting on Seal's face

 

We don't get good greens up here until around now.

 

and now with all this focking rain, who knows?

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i don't bother keeping a handicap. when i play with people who want to play side games and such and they ask what do you play to? I say "i play to shoot well". or whats your handicap? i say "mental".

 

i shoot anywhere from the high 70's to the high 80's right now, I don't get out much. tragedy i know. I hit the range as often as I can but havn't had the time to devote to full rounds like I want. I can easily shoot over 90 if I hit a few OB or lost or in the water.

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won a scotty cameron putter in a tourney 3 weeks

 

yay for me

 

did it take you 3 weeks to finish the tourney? or are you a faster golfer than drafter?

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won a scotty cameron putter in a tourney 3 weeks

 

yay for me

 

I won a parka.

 

It's much more handy than a putter.

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So as of the beginning of the month I was threatening the 70's regularly, but couldn't get over the hump. My biggest issue is that I was striking my irons well, but pushing everything 10 yards right of the target. Then if I tried to fix it, the snap hook came into play. A bit of thinking and I determined I was getting stuck below the plane. So I've really been focusing on taking he club straight back and getting a bit more vertical ever since. At first, I was afraid of hitting giant hooks, so I couldn't buy in. But I've ironed it out (pun intended), and now I'm hitting the ball straight as an arrow with the irons. Also, just like that I've added about a club and a half length with said irons.

 

The downside is I'm having trouble making the same adjustment with the driver. Trying the same thing had me coming over the top a bit. Luckily I think I drove through that issue (pun intended) this weekend.

 

Recent rounds:

81 at Pecan Valley Hills: Simple course. Played well, but this is when I decided I had to fix the iron push. Way too many 135 yard shots in, struck perfectly, but 10 yards right of the green. My short game is great, so I usually can get up and down. But if that happens 8 times, it needs to be 2 birdies, 5 pars, and a bogey....as oppose to 5 pars and 3 bogeys. As that 4 strokes is the difference between an 81 and 77.

 

86 at Hidden Creek: Much tougher course. I made the iron change, and for the most part it went well. But I was hitting low smothered hooks with my driver. Still, the short game saved me most of the day, but a triple on 14 and a quad on 18 turned an 81 type score into an 86.

 

84 at Cross Timbers: The tale of 2 nines.. On the front, I couldn't do anything. I was yanking drivers, skulling chips, getting lost in the trees. Shot a 47 on the front.... But on #9 (145 yard par 3) I took a practice swing and felt the click. I remember thinking "Got it. I am playing the back side under par"....and while I didn't do that, I parred #9 before shooting a 1 over 37 on the back side.

 

I'm playing this Friday and Saturday, and I have as much confidence as I've had in awhile. So hopefully low scores will be had.

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I was doing the same thing with a push and a slight fade... My analysis was in trying to take the club straight back i was actually taking it back outside the plane which was causing me the strike the ball coming inside the plane which was where the fade came.. I strengthened my grip which caused me to take the club back more inside, and has actually really helped ball striking... Trouble is that i've held a golf club the exact same way for the past 20 some odd years give or take, so it takes time for it to become send nature. I always held irons and drivers the same way i held a putter... Stronger grip means the line of my thumbs is more behind the club rather than on top on the backswing & downswing so i feel like i have more power.

 

I'm going to be stuck in the mid 80's until my kid is old enough to play with me, at which time i will get into the high 70's

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I played Saturday for the first time in months. I had no idea where or what my game would like so I went to a real easy course that is redoing their greens. They set up temporary greens right in front of the real greens. They're puttable but not good even for temp greens. I wanted to see how I would hit my driver and mid to short irons.

 

I too, was hitting my shots ten yards straight right of my target. I used to hit a cut but now it's a straight right hit. I made a few adjustments and also realized I was hitting temp greens that were the size of a postage stamp and started hitting quality shots off the sweet spot. It felt good after taking a long layoff from it. Feels like I may forgotten all of those bad swing errors that seemed to creep back in when I played a lot of rounds. The worst being lifting my head up before making contact. I stayed in it Saturday. Felt good.

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Well I did it - after 4 years of playing the same driver, I finally retired my old faithful Ping G10... She had just become dead and flat, lost her spark.

 

Bought the new Big Bertha Alpha 815 - will see how it goes.

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Well I did it - after 4 years of playing the same driver, I finally retired my old faithful Ping G10... She had just become dead and flat, lost her spark.

 

Bought the new Big Bertha Alpha 815 - will see how it goes.

 

All good things must come to an end. Keep us updated, I'm in the market for a new Driver.

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Well I did it - after 4 years of playing the same driver, I finally retired my old faithful Ping G10... She had just become dead and flat, lost her spark.

 

Bought the new Big Bertha Alpha 815 - will see how it goes.

I went back to the Superquad. Get one off CL, or back out of your garage, and compare it for us. Maybe you can find an old Orlimar Hip-ti 420 and see if out-distances the 815. That's the kind of report I'd love to see from a better player.

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I'm about to upgrade my hybrid. It's a Callaway Heavenwood 3H 20°.

 

1. I focking hate it. It's the only club in my bag that I have no confidence with....maybe that's because....

2. I just looked and it's now 10 years old. May as well be a wooden stick, technology wise....Or so I want you guys to tell me.

 

My irons are the Callaway Razr's and I have the 4-5 hybrids instead of 4 and 5 irons. I've gotten good enough with my irons that I'm unsure if I'd get the hybrids if I had it to do over.....but I'd absolutely kill for a heavenwood replacement that was as easy to hit.

 

Any suggestions? I'm basically looking for the easiest club to hit from the fairway.

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I'm about to upgrade my hybrid. It's a Callaway Heavenwood 3H 20°.

 

1. I focking hate it. It's the only club in my bag that I have no confidence with....maybe that's because....

2. I just looked and it's now 10 years old. May as well be a wooden stick, technology wise....Or so I want you guys to tell me.

 

My irons are the Callaway Razr's and I have the 4-5 hybrids instead of 4 and 5 irons. I've gotten good enough with my irons that I'm unsure if I'd get the hybrids if I had it to do over.....but I'd absolutely kill for a heavenwood replacement that was as easy to hit.

 

Any suggestions? I'm basically looking for the easiest club to hit from the fairway.

 

Obviously price matters. So if you are looking on the cheaper side (relatively speaking), but still buying a quality product, it's hard to beat Adams Hybrids.

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I'm about to upgrade my hybrid. It's a Callaway Heavenwood 3H 20°.

 

1. I focking hate it. It's the only club in my bag that I have no confidence with....maybe that's because....

2. I just looked and it's now 10 years old. May as well be a wooden stick, technology wise....Or so I want you guys to tell me.

 

My irons are the Callaway Razr's and I have the 4-5 hybrids instead of 4 and 5 irons. I've gotten good enough with my irons that I'm unsure if I'd get the hybrids if I had it to do over.....but I'd absolutely kill for a heavenwood replacement that was as easy to hit.

 

Any suggestions? I'm basically looking for the easiest club to hit from the fairway.

 

I play older King Cobra Bafflers, 2hybrid and 3hybrid. They almost hit by themselves. I tested about 10 different hybrids at the time, and it will be very difficult to get them out of the bag.

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...but still buying a quality product, it's hard to beat Adams Hybrids.

Total agree... Being faithful to what works, I'm still playing my Adams A-12 hybrids. Have a 19* and 21* - love them. The 19* I carry 210-215, the 21* 200 yards.

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I'm about to upgrade my hybrid. It's a Callaway Heavenwood 3H 20°.

 

1. I focking hate it. It's the only club in my bag that I have no confidence with....maybe that's because....

2. I just looked and it's now 10 years old. May as well be a wooden stick, technology wise....Or so I want you guys to tell me.

 

My irons are the Callaway Razr's and I have the 4-5 hybrids instead of 4 and 5 irons. I've gotten good enough with my irons that I'm unsure if I'd get the hybrids if I had it to do over.....but I'd absolutely kill for a heavenwood replacement that was as easy to hit.

 

Any suggestions? I'm basically looking for the easiest club to hit from the fairway.

Ping g30

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Obviously price matters. So if you are looking on the cheaper side (relatively speaking), but still buying a quality product, it's hard to beat Adams Hybrids.

I bought the g30 3 wood off eBay used but in mint condition for .60 on the dollar. Plenty of sites that flip gear that idiots buy and immediately return after a bucket of duffs.

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Played for the first time in about a year last weekend.

 

Played pretty well considering the layoff and the course (Gaylord Springs). Fell apart on the back 9 as everything seemed longer. Front 9 felt like more 7 irons or less in...back 9 felt like a lot of 5 and 6 irons where my control has gone to crap.(par 3s too...hit both greens and had makable birdie putts on the front with 7iron on both...back 9 was a 5 and a 6...hit one green but nowhere close) Was crushing it off the tee and under control except for one hole.

 

Fun day though.

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Well, I've decided it's time to get better at golf. For the past 3 years, I've been stuck in the 10-12 handicap range. When my timing is right, it's nothing to go out or come in with something in the high 30s, but I'm not consistent enough to keep it going.

 

But in the last week, I've decided to videotape the swing. And needless to say, I saw some things that I definitely wasn't feeling. And sure enough, they all correlate directly to my miss.

 

Basically, my misses are the push or the snap hook. And damnit, now I can't let it go. That smug Cruzer claiming he could beat me at golf is bugging me also. I don't like losing, even to people I've never met nor played against.....So it's a rebuild, boys.

 

Luckily, what I am seeing is all somewhat related.

 

Backswing:

1. I am getting a bit disconnected on my takeaway. So I am doing the old "glove under the left armpit" drill.

2. I was coming back way inside. So now I am making sure my left arm is pointing down the target line when parallel with the ground on my backswing. Before, it was pointed way out to the right. It's getting me way more vertical.

 

Downswing:

1. I was dropping way underneath the plane. So I'm focusing on keeping my hands in front of me.

2. I was sliding left before turning the hips....a lot. Damn near a foot I would guess. I've had to set a chair up about 3 inches off my left hip and take swings.

 

Luckily, the flaws are all correlated with each other, and all related to the Push/Snap Hook miss. So I'm thinking I can work this out without too many growing pains. I will have to actually practice though. Blah. In the meantime, you can see me in my living room taking Mike Weir drawbacks, before swinging with a dish towel under my left arm pit, and a chair just off my left hip....and I may have broken my ceiling fan tonight. Didn't think I could get to it, but who hasn't made that mistake?

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Lol @ golf technology

 

Hmmm..we should be hitting the ball 800 yds now. Every year they claim the balls and clubs make you hit it farther.

 

I still play an old set of ping woods...actual persimmon. I finally upgraded my irons ten years ago.

 

I have a Ginty in my bag if anyone knows what that is.

 

I putt with an old Acushnet Bullseye putter that looks like a putt-putt putter.

 

Its like fishing lures that are designed to catch fisherman, not fish.

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Well, I've decided it's time to get better at golf. For the past 3 years, I've been stuck in the 10-12 handicap range. When my timing is right, it's nothing to go out or come in with something in the high 30s, but I'm not consistent enough to keep it going.

 

But in the last week, I've decided to videotape the swing. And needless to say, I saw some things that I definitely wasn't feeling. And sure enough, they all correlate directly to my miss.

 

Basically, my misses are the push or the snap hook. And damnit, now I can't let it go. That smug Cruzer claiming he could beat me at golf is bugging me also. I don't like losing, even to people I've never met nor played against.....So it's a rebuild, boys.

 

Luckily, what I am seeing is all somewhat related.

 

Backswing:

1. I am getting a bit disconnected on my takeaway. So I am doing the old "glove under the left armpit" drill.

2. I was coming back way inside. So now I am making sure my left arm is pointing down the target line when parallel with the ground on my backswing. Before, it was pointed way out to the right. It's getting me way more vertical.

 

Downswing:

1. I was dropping way underneath the plane. So I'm focusing on keeping my hands in front of me.

2. I was sliding left before turning the hips....a lot. Damn near a foot I would guess. I've had to set a chair up about 3 inches off my left hip and take swings.

 

Luckily, the flaws are all correlated with each other, and all related to the Push/Snap Hook miss. So I'm thinking I can work this out without too many growing pains. I will have to actually practice though. Blah. In the meantime, you can see me in my living room taking Mike Weir drawbacks, before swinging with a dish towel under my left arm pit, and a chair just off my left hip....and I may have broken my ceiling fan tonight. Didn't think I could get to it, but who hasn't made that mistake?

Nick Faldo's "A Swing For Life". You can buy it and his second book for peenies on the dollar. Greatest golf instructional book out there.

 

I bought a cheap autobahn. I put a circle with an aiming point and blast my cheap irons into it. The olderI get, the more important releasing the club is. Try it when you need to follow thru.

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Lol @ golf technology

 

Hmmm..we should be hitting the ball 800 yds now. Every year they claim the balls and clubs make you hit it farther.

 

I still play an old set of ping woods...actual persimmon. I finally upgraded my irons ten years ago.

 

I have a Ginty in my bag if anyone knows what that is.

 

I putt with an old Acushnet Bullseye putter that looks like a putt-putt putter.

 

Its like fishing lures that are designed to catch fisherman, not fish.

Have my original bullseye putter from when I learned the game when we was 12.

 

And also have my grandfather's ginty.

Pissed my brother off when I'd pull it out and out drive him. He has learned to be a bit longer off the tee though, so I had to go back to just hitting my driver 50 yards past his.

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Well, I've decided it's time to get better at golf. For the past 3 years, I've been stuck in the 10-12 handicap range. When my timing is right, it's nothing to go out or come in with something in the high 30s, but I'm not consistent enough to keep it going.

 

But in the last week, I've decided to videotape the swing. And needless to say, I saw some things that I definitely wasn't feeling. And sure enough, they all correlate directly to my miss.

 

Basically, my misses are the push or the snap hook. And damnit, now I can't let it go. That smug Cruzer claiming he could beat me at golf is bugging me also. I don't like losing, even to people I've never met nor played against.....So it's a rebuild, boys.

 

Luckily, what I am seeing is all somewhat related.

 

Backswing:

1. I am getting a bit disconnected on my takeaway. So I am doing the old "glove under the left armpit" drill.

2. I was coming back way inside. So now I am making sure my left arm is pointing down the target line when parallel with the ground on my backswing. Before, it was pointed way out to the right. It's getting me way more vertical.

 

Downswing:

1. I was dropping way underneath the plane. So I'm focusing on keeping my hands in front of me.

2. I was sliding left before turning the hips....a lot. Damn near a foot I would guess. I've had to set a chair up about 3 inches off my left hip and take swings.

 

Luckily, the flaws are all correlated with each other, and all related to the Push/Snap Hook miss. So I'm thinking I can work this out without too many growing pains. I will have to actually practice though. Blah. In the meantime, you can see me in my living room taking Mike Weir drawbacks, before swinging with a dish towel under my left arm pit, and a chair just off my left hip....and I may have broken my ceiling fan tonight. Didn't think I could get to it, but who hasn't made that mistake?

If you're a consistent 10-12 handicap - you're not going to jump down to a 7 by working on your long game... Those strokes fall off from 100 yards and in.

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Lol @ golf technology

 

Hmmm..we should be hitting the ball 800 yds now. Every year they claim the balls and clubs make you hit it farther.

 

I still play an old set of ping woods...actual persimmon. I finally upgraded my irons ten years ago.

 

I have a Ginty in my bag if anyone knows what that is.

 

I putt with an old Acushnet Bullseye putter that looks like a putt-putt putter.

 

Its like fishing lures that are designed to catch fisherman, not fish.

If Gene Sarazen were alive - he'd be Lol @ golf technology at you for playing steel shafted clubs... The game evolves - and unless you're playing a feathery, you're part of it too.

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That smug Cruzer claiming he could beat me at golf is bugging me also. I don't like losing, even to people I've never met nor played against.....

 

Ha, easy now... I actually never claimed I could... What I did is ask how it was someone who claims they win at everything - can possibly win at golf shooting 80's? ... I'm a solid single digit, but I have my days of lower 80's too. Right now I'm fighting a similar problem as you - having all kinds of trouble with the snap left hook, especially with the driver... I drove it about as poorly as you can Saturday, hit 1 decent drive, 2 fairways and 2 greens... Turned a sure fire 85 into a ridiculous 79 bcoz I pulled some bullshiat pars out of my ass.... Short game can hide a lot of warts.

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If you're a consistent 10-12 handicap - you're not going to jump down to a 7 by working on your long game... Those strokes fall off from 100 yards and in.

In most cases, I agree. And that may even prove to be true in my case.

 

That said, my typical round involves something like:

- 11-12 pars, 4-5 bogeys, and 2 triples or quads. If I keep it in play, I'll have a putt at par.. But I need to eliminate those blow ups, and they tend to occur when I duck hook or shove a tee shot 50 yards off line. Or when I either chunk or straight shove a hybrid OB from the fairway.

- that said, I know a great short game would knock a stroke or two off those quads. I'm obviously solid inside of 100 by most metrics, but I do in fact need to turn more of those 40 yard wedges into 5 foot putts as opposed to 15 foot putts.

 

As far as the fixes i listed above, with a ton of practice swings, I'm finding that if I just focus on that left arm and the target line, I'm staying connected for the most part....and if I just focus on turning instead of sliding on the downswing, I'm not dropping under plane...so in essence I've cut it down to two thoughts.

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Well, I've decided it's time to get better at golf. For the past 3 years, I've been stuck in the 10-12 handicap range. When my timing is right, it's nothing to go out or come in with something in the high 30s, but I'm not consistent enough to keep it going.

 

But in the last week, I've decided to videotape the swing. And needless to say, I saw some things that I definitely wasn't feeling. And sure enough, they all correlate directly to my miss.

 

Basically, my misses are the push or the snap hook. And damnit, now I can't let it go. That smug Cruzer claiming he could beat me at golf is bugging me also. I don't like losing, even to people I've never met nor played against.....So it's a rebuild, boys.

 

Luckily, what I am seeing is all somewhat related.

 

Backswing:

1. I am getting a bit disconnected on my takeaway. So I am doing the old "glove under the left armpit" drill.

2. I was coming back way inside. So now I am making sure my left arm is pointing down the target line when parallel with the ground on my backswing. Before, it was pointed way out to the right. It's getting me way more vertical.

 

Downswing:

1. I was dropping way underneath the plane. So I'm focusing on keeping my hands in front of me.

2. I was sliding left before turning the hips....a lot. Damn near a foot I would guess. I've had to set a chair up about 3 inches off my left hip and take swings.

 

Luckily, the flaws are all correlated with each other, and all related to the Push/Snap Hook miss. So I'm thinking I can work this out without too many growing pains. I will have to actually practice though. Blah. In the meantime, you can see me in my living room taking Mike Weir drawbacks, before swinging with a dish towel under my left arm pit, and a chair just off my left hip....and I may have broken my ceiling fan tonight. Didn't think I could get to it, but who hasn't made that mistake?

 

Everything I wrote here......scratch it all out.

 

Basically, I've spent more time looking at video of my swing and researching online this week than I have the last 5 years combined. And while I was in fact getting disconnected, coming too far inside, dropping under the plane, etc, I've now found a root cause of many problems. Basically, my shoulder turn was way too flat. And because of that, I'm guilty of several things which seem to come down to me trying to create enough space to swing the club... Here is an image. http://cdn.thesandtrap.com/8/87/941x500px-8773c713_03.jpg

 

On video at least, when I turn the shoulders on the proper plane, everything else looks solid. So basically, in the short term I'm only going to be working on shoulder plane, and the short game.

 

Next summer, I'll be a scratch golfer......obviously.

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Everything I wrote here......scratch it all out.

 

On video at least, when I turn the shoulders on the proper plane, everything else looks solid. So basically, in the short term I'm only going to be working on shoulder plane, and the short game.

Doesn't look like a bad position at all... That being said - I'd be careful over-analyzing and dissecting swing planes and the such... Paralysis by analysis is a real thing - things like balance, tempo and timing are far more important.

 

You do seem to go well past parallel at the top - have you always?

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Doesn't look like a bad position at all... That being said - I'd be careful over-analyzing and dissecting swing planes and the such... Paralysis by analysis is a real thing - things like balance, tempo and timing are far more important.

 

You do seem to go well past parallel at the top - have you always?

That wasn't a pic of me. That was just a sample I found online to explain what I meant about the shoulders. I'm worse.

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Though I do agree, I need to not go too crazy analyzing and dissecting. I'm like a lot of people, in that if I get too many thoughts in my head, I'll forget about actually striking the ball. Then all hell breaks loose. That said, my history is that I can think about one change and do well. Then once that becomes muscle memory, I can focus on something else if need be.

 

Like most, I'm at my best when I have no swing thoughts. Just visualize what I want the ball to do, then swing without thought.....But considering I've went a few years without a new swing thought, and that my game has plateaued with the same consistent miss the entire time, it was time to make an adjustment.

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Next summer, I'll be a scratch golfer......obviously.

 

Hopefully from contracting herpes.

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My golf game for the last year has been a work in progress. As Ive approached 40 years old, being hard on my body has caught up with me and my swing isn't what it used to be. The only problem is, by brain "thought" I was able to swing like I did in my 20's. I finally watched my swing on video, and saw all sorts of problems. Mainly, my shoulder turn isn't what it used to be, but I felt like I still needed to get my hands up high. In order to achieve this, I was letting my arms run away from my body and I was losing all flex in my rear leg. I did the following things, and my game is back where is used to be.

 

First, I feel this drill is the holy grail of golf drills. I actually hit 3/4 shots with this, and dont have my index finger down the shaft as in the video.

 

http://www.golfchannel.com/media/school-golf-split-grip-drill/

 

This drill did alot for me. It got my backswing shortened up where it needed to be and it got my body/arms matched up properly again. It also really helps get the feel of delivering the club with the hands leading. I also hit alot of chips and pitches this way. This is an awesome way to get a deadly accurate short game. Try it and you wont be sorry. You really need to have an active body turn to not hit it fat. If you hit it fat, it shows that you are getting too quick with hands/arms. Also, this drill forces you to keep some flex in your trail leg and makes you turn properly.

 

I do all my own club work, so equipment changes were pretty easy. I went away from my old X flex Dyanamic Golf Iron shafts, and went with the Dynamic Gold SL shafts. They are still a "players" shaft but lighter weight is nice for the aging player. Also, I got rid of the 80 gram X flex driver shaft. I toyed around with several shafts, and I finally settled on a Grafalloy Pro Launch Blue in stiff. With my swing changes and a new shaft, my SS with driver is back up to 110 mph. Not bad for an older guy! I also added a 3 and 4 Hybrid. I made the hybrids myself with components, and put in steel shafts. I really like my hybrids to hit like irons, not fairway woods. Most off the rack hybrids come with lightweight graphite which I hate. My accuracy is much better with steel.

 

 

I shot a 77 yesterday (took an 8 on a par 5, ugh) and I really struck the ball well. Before each shot, I took two practice swings with a split grip, and then took my normal interlock grip and let it rip.

 

Edited to add...If you are playing with a modern "stock" driver, do yourself a favor and try it after cutting it down to 44.5" or maybe 44". Lots of stock drivers today, are 45.5" or even 46". This is outrageous. The loss of distance, if any at all, will usually be cancel out by hitting in in the middle of the club face more often. I've put lots of shafts in drivers for friends, and I always recommend cutting it down. You may have to toy around with some lead tape on the club head, but it usually isn't a big deal. I usually just put on a Winn light weight grip and the swing weight is back where it was before.

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First off, I don't appreciate this "Fireballer" posting about shooting 77's with a triple, when I've never heard of him.....now back to me.

 

So I went to the range Friday night with only one thought. That being the aforementioned shoulder plane. (In essence, it's just another way of saying "turn around my spine, as opposed to twisting and raising up". I hit the ball better than I ever have in my entire life. :banana:

 

Played Champions Circle on Saturday. I shot an 84, which sounds "meh", but there were enough factors in play to give me confidence.

1. 17 of my last 20 scores have been between 80 and 86. So being the first round after a change, I experienced no dropoff.

2. I shot a 39 on the front, hitting 6 greens in regulation. I just couldn't make anything, nor could I get up and down when I missed.

3. This was in part because the greens were in horrible shape. Bumpy and sandy. It directly cost me 2 short putts, and it left me longer leaves on some chips and pitches.

4. I got a bit too confident and started trying to swing more aggressively on the back side. I can solve that by simply maintaining a better mental game. And that partially suffered because....

5. While I'm in good shape, I apparently overdid it Friday at the range. My hamstrings hurt, my arms felt dead and the club felt heavy. Then the heat got to me (I think it was 99 degrees and humidity was in the 80s. It was the suck). So I kind of lost it late and shot a 45 on the back.

 

But overall, I think I really found something. Its got me feeling the sky is the limit (relatively speaking). I've been playing well for a long time, but the swing always felt so complicated and timing based, that I was often just hoping for a result. Now it seems simple and it's just a matter of making it second nature, then deciding how good I want to get. I truly expect to be putting up regular rounds in the 70's by the end of the year, and to be a firm single digit handicap that can kick Cruzer's ass at golf drafts AND real life golf by next summer.

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First off, I don't appreciate this "Fireballer" posting about shooting 77's with a triple, when I've never heard of him.....now back to me.

 

So I went to the range Friday night with only one thought. That being the aforementioned shoulder plane. (In essence, it's just another way of saying "turn around my spine, as opposed to twisting and raising up". I hit the ball better than I ever have in my entire life. :banana:

 

 

Meh, it was a local 6500 yard track, it's not as glamerous as it sounds. All Par 5s are just under, or at 500 yards. As far as you practicing your "shoulder plane", do you mean you were turning too flat? I played alot of baseball growing up, and turning flat felt to natural. After I learned to "steepen" my front shoulder as I turned, I really starting compressing the ball well. Sounds like you really found something there.

Check out this youtube video about shoulder plane. It is probably more affirmation that you are on the right track. This guy also has some other great vids that make the swing more simple.

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