The Big 12, err, 13....14

[Mike Honcho 5,432]

 

The University of Maryland's Board of Regents on Monday voted unanimously to accept an invitation to join the Big Ten Conference and leave the Atlantic Coast Conference, a source told ESPN on Monday.

 

An afternoon announcement is expected.

 

Sources also said that Rutgers is expected to follow the Terrapins and will announce its own move from the Big East to the Big Ten, possible as early as Tuesday.

 

Maryland, a charter member of the ACC, faces a $50 million exit fee from the ACC.

 

Rutgers' Board of Governors is holding a regularly schedule meeting Monday in New Brunswick, N.J.

 

 

 

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8651934/maryland-terrapins-accept-invitation-join-big-ten

[phillybear 366]

All this movement the past couple of years is destroying decades worth of rivalries. I mean, it makes sense for teams like TCU and Boise St and Utah that could never qualify for a run at a national title. But Maryland moving to the Big Ten? It's a lateral move, unless the expectation is the ACC dissolves. Rutgers? I guess maybe it's a step up for them.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

All this movement the past couple of years is destroying decades worth of rivalries. I mean, it makes sense for teams like TCU and Boise St and Utah that could never qualify for a run at a national title. But Maryland moving to the Big Ten? It's a lateral move, unless the expectation is the ACC dissolves. Rutgers? I guess maybe it's a step up for them.

 

The ACC is not dissolving. They are getting bigger with the addition of Pitt, Syracuse and Notre Dame (except for football).

 

Maryland is looking at the $25m that Big Ten teams get paid in shared revenue as a key driver, although that $50m exit fee is going to cut into that quite a bit. I think that the people deciding in College Park have Big Ten ties, but I can't really understand why they would make this move at this time.

[Mike Honcho 5,432]

The ACC is not dissolving. They are getting bigger with the addition of Pitt, Syracuse and Notre Dame (except for football).

 

Maryland is looking at the $25m that Big Ten teams get paid in shared revenue as a key driver, although that $50m exit fee is going to cut into that quite a bit. I think that the people deciding in College Park have Big Ten ties, but I can't really understand why they would make this move at this time.

 

You are correct, it's about the money. SI has some numbers that perfect world, putting the Big Ten network into Washington DC and New York each school might get 30-35M per year.

 

http://sportsillustr....html?eref=sihp

 

Feel like Rutgers is going to be Northwestern part due..the other team everyone schedules for Homecoming...

[DankNuggs 305]

Maryland and rutgers are AWFUL additions to the B10... Almost sounds desperate like the play the Big Least made

[hoytdwow 202]

Maryland almost got beat by I-AA William & Mary earlier this year

[DankNuggs 305]

You are correct, it's about the money. SI has some numbers that perfect world, putting the Big Ten network into Washington DC and New York each school might get 30-35M per year.

 

http://sportsillustr....html?eref=sihp

 

Feel like Rutgers is going to be Northwestern part due..the other team everyone schedules for Homecoming...

NW is a great school, Rutgers, notsomuch

[TimmySmith 2,783]

As a lifelong Terp fan, I find it interesting. Football money rules college athletics and Maryland will be dominant Big 10 basketball from the get go. There probably was not much discussion among the regents.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

Maryland and rutgers are AWFUL additions to the B10... Almost sounds desperate like the play the Big Least made

The DC/Balt area is one of the absolute pinnacles of athletic talent in the nation, and MD was constantly losing the top football guys to Big 10 schools. Not anymore.

[KSB2424 3,173]

I really hate all this shuffling. It's all due to the BCS and when they said a conference had to have 12 teams for a championship game. It has nothing to do with academics or even athletics; its all about the dollar bills.

 

Conferences don't mean anything to me anymore. My favorite team will have a schedule for football, basketball, and baseball and I'll just root for whomever they play. The whole 'conference pride' stuff is out the window.

 

Missouri and Kansas not in the same conference? Stupid. Boise St in the Big East? Dumb Charter member Maryland leaving the ACC? ummm, okay. :yawn:

[KSB2424 3,173]

Football money rules college athletics

While you are 100% correct, don't you find it a bit...shallow that its come to that and pretty much only that these days?

[TimmySmith 2,783]

While you are 100% correct, don't you find it a bit...shallow that its come to that and pretty much only that these days?

An unintended, yet entirely predictable result of Title 9. NCAA athletic programs have no choice but to pimp their football teams.

 

As far as conferences go, they are an antiquated approach. FBS needs a complete overhaul to justify playoffs, and the first thing to go is conferences.

[KSB2424 3,173]

All of Marylands other sports take a hit. Soccer, baseball, does the BIG even have lacrosse? Which is huge in Maryland? Even basketball takes a bit of a hit too. Not that the BIG is not on par with the ACC, but those DC recruits like to play close to home than travel west for every single game. Duke and UNC should be able to raid that area now in basketball.

 

But its all about football TV contracts and money and whatnot.

 

To me, college athletics was ALL about tradition and rivalries. It's what made it different than the NFL or the NBA. All that is becoming less and less relevant.

[phillybear 366]

An unintended, yet entirely predictable result of Title 9. NCAA athletic programs have no choice but to pimp their football teams.

 

As far as conferences go, they are an antiquated approach. FBS needs a complete overhaul to justify playoffs, and the first thing to go is conferences.

 

What fans want: every Div I team as an independent. Make your own schedule, but use computers and panel to create BCS rank based on results and strength of schedule, ala March Madness selection Sunday. 64 team playoff. Single elimination. Hell, go 96 teams, and give 32 teams a bye. But make it a true tournament. All the minor bowls host a first round game. The BCS bowls host the final rounds. Ratings bonanza. Recruitment for "mid majors" gets much better, leveling the playing field.

 

Downside: Revenue sharing. Alabama gets the same cash as Idaho. Built in payouts for conferences due to TV ties, conference championship, tie ins to specific bowls. All go away. What about merchandise?

[TimmySmith 2,783]

All of Marylands other sports take a hit. Soccer, baseball, does the BIG even have lacrosse? Which is huge in Maryland? Even basketball takes a bit of a hit too. Not that the BIG is not on par with the ACC, but those DC recruits like to play close to home than travel west for every single game. Duke and UNC should be able to raid that area now in basketball.

Soccer - Maryland is always top 5, their coach has sent more players to the professional level than any other college coach today. Not any change.

 

Baseball - Meh, MD was never good anyway.

 

Lacrosse - you do not play a "conference" schedule, so the schedule won't change. At-large bid should be about the same. My guess is that the Big10 will start lacrosse as part of the deal.

 

Basketball - Mark Turgeon is killing it at recruiting and DC is the best area in the nation.

[KSB2424 3,173]

Soccer - Maryland is always top 5, their coach has sent more players to the professional level than any other college coach today. Not any change.

 

Baseball - Meh, MD was never good anyway.

 

Lacrosse - you do not play a "conference" schedule, so the schedule won't change. At-large bid should be about the same. My guess is that the Big10 will start lacrosse as part of the deal.

 

Basketball - Mark Turgeon is killing it at recruiting and DC is the best area in the nation.

I am glad you are excited and looking at it glass half full on the other sports, but I think you are wrong.

 

ACC soccer is heads and shoulders above B1G. College athletics is about recruiting and those stud soccer recruits may pick a UVA or a UNC over UMD now to play in the ACC.

 

And if you don't think it will hurt a bit in Basketball then you're mistaken.

 

I don't know much about LAX, but I do know UNC, Duke, and UVA are some of the better LAX schools in the nation.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

I am glad you are excited and looking at it glass half full on the other sports, but I think you are wrong.

 

ACC soccer is heads and shoulders above B1G. College athletics is about recruiting and those stud soccer recruits may pick a UVA or a UNC over UMD now to play in the ACC.

 

And if you don't think it will hurt a bit in Basketball then you're mistaken.

 

I don't know much about LAX, but I do know UNC, Duke, and UVA are some of the better LAX schools in the nation.

I guess we'll have to see. And I do not see the glass as half full, I see it as half filled (the pragmatists view). With the current economic situation and Title 9, some of those sports might not even exist in 5 years without football doing the earning.

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 42]

As a Badger Alum, I just don't see it. Next the BIG will invite UCLA and Gonzaga (or Cal) for those TV markets. I would enjoy going to a WI Mary Football game about as much as WI/Northern Ill.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

I guess we'll have to see. And I do not see the glass as half full, I see it as half filled (the pragmatists view). With the current economic situation and Title 9, some of those sports might not even exist in 5 years without football doing the earning.

Have you seen Maryland play football recently?

[GettnHuge 2]

Makes more sense with missouri, west virginny, notre dame...

[montana 89]

As a lifelong Terp fan, I find it interesting. Football money rules college athletics and Maryland will be dominant Big 10 basketball from the get go. There probably was not much discussion among the regents.

Dominant?

 

Haven't been watching B1G basketball the last 5-7 years have ya son?

[montana 89]

Yeah, the B1G only has 3 of the top 4 in the latest poll.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

Dominant?

 

Haven't been watching B1G basketball the last 5-7 years have ya son?

I guess I must have missed all of their championships? (Which are not won in November, by the way.)

[Mungwater 601]

I guess I must have missed all of their championships? (Which are not won in November, by the way.)

 

So a conference is only good if a team wins the tournament?

[montana 89]

And how many has Maryland won during this span? How many sweet 16's...Elite 8's....Final 4....Championship Game....?

 

I can answer it for you if need be.

 

Competitive, likely.

 

Dominant, not so much.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

And how many has Maryland won during this span? How many sweet 16's...Elite 8's....Final 4....Championship Game....?

 

I can answer it for you if need be.

 

Competitive, likely.

 

Dominant, not so much.

You know what, we'll see. MD only has 4 upperclassmen and only one of them starts. They will be a top 5 team in 2014.

[montana 89]

You know what, we'll see. MD only has 4 upperclassmen and only one of them starts. They will be a top 5 team in 2014.

 

I agree that Maryland is a great basketball program. But we'll agree to disagree as far as dominant.

[JT 137]

Feel like Rutgers is going to be Northwestern part due..the other team everyone schedules for Homecoming...

 

Rutgers is 5-1 in bowl games since 2005, their only loss coming by 5 on Arizona State's home field as a 14 pt dog. They're 56-33 over that same span, and 9-1 this season.

 

NJ is great recruiting ground and since Schiano first arrived on campus they've done a great job of keeping in-state kids at home. No small task; Penn State, Nebraska and Miami had a lock on that area for decades. New staff has continued that trend.

 

Basketball? As a proud Scarlet Knight, I find it inexplicable that they can't find ten players in the corridor between DC and NYC. Hopeefully they'll turn that around. Women's hoops...I know... has been one of the nation's most successful programs for over a decade.

 

It's the RU experience!

[CantTouchThis 23]

The thing that blows my mind with the shuffling is very few of these moves make geographic sense. BSU and SDSU in the big EAST?!?! EAST?!?!

 

I dunno, I haven't heard much about this, but it just bothers me. That is an very unnecessary amount of traveling, and that adds a lot of stress to the players too. No one feels like playing football after a 6 hour plane trip.

[JT 137]

The thing that blows my mind with the shuffling is very few of these moves make geographic sense. BSU and SDSU in the big EAST?!?! EAST?!?!

 

I dunno, I haven't heard much about this, but it just bothers me. That is an very unnecessary amount of traveling, and that adds a lot of stress to the players too. No one feels like playing football after a 6 hour plane trip.

 

Yep. College administrators are terrified of the prospect of delicate players engaging in an extra game at the end of the season... but not carting them 2/3 of the way across the country and back every couple weeks.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

The guys running these schools are completely out of control. In the search for a boost to their ego and the promise of a new and better source for cash they have given the middle finger to tradition, fans, alumni, and "student athletes". These guys who didn't want to agree to a playoff that would "take student athletes away from classrooms" sure don't mind arranging for those student athletes to have half their conference games played 3,000 miles from school.

[swirvenirvin 25]

Maryland and rutgers are AWFUL additions to the B10... Almost sounds desperate like the play the Big Least made

Agreed these two fucko teams are on the bottom of the barrel for teams I wanted to see join. Would have liked Pitt and maybe Cincy

[ZeroTolerance 584]

Agreed these two fucko teams are on the bottom of the barrel for teams I wanted to see join. Would have liked Pitt and maybe Cincy

It is ALL about money. The move is simply to add the Maryland/DC and New Jersey markets to Big Ten territory. Pitt and Cincy are within current Big Ten territory so they wouldn't add as much potential revenue, and that is all that matters to these guys.

[montana 89]

It is ALL about money. The move is simply to add the Maryland/DC and New Jersey markets to Big Ten territory. Pitt and Cincy are within current Big Ten territory so they wouldn't add as much potential revenue, and that is all that matters to these guys.

 

Agreed. If they had actually gone after a school or two within their region, they would have gone after bigger schools that travel well. I'm not overly excited about either school joining.

If it were up to me (w/o all the b.s.): I would like to have ND & WV in the B1G....but it'll never happen.

[MedStudent 56]

Agreed. If they had actually gone after a school or two within their region, they would have gone after bigger schools that travel well. I'm not overly excited about either school joining.

If it were up to me (w/o all the b.s.): I would like to have ND & WV in the B1G....but it'll never happen.

 

The big 10 would love to have ND too. I think piitsburgh would have been a better fit in the big ten with a natural rivalry with penn state but these additions are all about opening up new television markets and getting more money.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

It is ALL about money. The move is simply to add the Maryland/DC and New Jersey markets to Big Ten territory. Pitt and Cincy are within current Big Ten territory so they wouldn't add as much potential revenue, and that is all that matters to these guys.

I keep mentioning Title 9 for a reason. Money is ALL these guys CAN care about. Their backs are against the wall if they want to field a complete athletic program. Football is the only sport capable of generating more money to pay for volleyball etc. Maryland is the top football team in a 10 million person market. That instantly makes them the biggest market in the Big 10.

 

IMO the whole thing is a farce. I couldn't care less about history or rivalries and obviously the Conferences feel similarly. The NCAA is letting the inmates run the asylum. It's time to get the top 50 schools to the table and hash out a playoff.

[MedStudent 56]

I keep mentioning Title 9 for a reason. Money is ALL these guys CAN care about. Their backs are against the wall if they want to field a complete athletic program. Football is the only sport capable of generating more money to pay for volleyball etc. Maryland is the top football team in a 10 million person market. That instantly makes them the biggest market in the Big 10.

 

IMO the whole thing is a farce. I couldn't care less about history or rivalries and obviously the Conferences feel similarly. The NCAA is letting the inmates run the asylum. It's time to get the top 50 schools to the table and hash out a playoff.

 

Chicago is a bigger market than Maryland/DC.

[Mungwater 601]

Chicago is a bigger market than Maryland/DC.

 

That's what I was just about to post, I don't think he knows geography

 

ETA: but in Chicago they do have three schools fighting for football talent (ND, northwestern, Illinois).

[TimmySmith 2,783]

Chicago is a bigger market than Maryland/DC.

DC/Balt is bigger than Chicago. MD is the only major school that serves both. Does Chicago have a major college that they support? If so it's more likely to be Notre Dame than Northwestern or Illinois.

[Mungwater 601]

DC/Balt is bigger than Chicago. MD is the only major school that serves both. Does Chicago have a major college that they support? If so it's more likely to be Notre Dame than Northwestern or Illinois.

 

If you include what is known as the Chicagoland area, you're looking at about 10 million people. DC Baltimore is about 8