Gheys Don't Demand Special Treatment

[penultimatestraw 473]

You can't be this naive. Your employer gives you a pamphlet with suggestions, the implication is that it is in your best interest to follow said suggestions.

I routinely ignore stupid policies. If you do your job well, sh!t like this is inconsequential.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I routinely ignore stupid policies. If you do your job well, sh!t like this is inconsequential.

But you are not a cog in the Gubmint wheel..........................YET, Dr.

[jerryskids 6,735]

I routinely ignore stupid policies. If you do your job well, sh!t like this is inconsequential.

I would reply, but RP did it quite well.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I would reply, but RP did it quite well.

I guess I'll find out. Anything specific I should do to avoid becoming a government automaton?

[IGotWorms 4,057]

I would reply, but RP did it quite well.

Did you lose a little self respect typing that?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

You can't be this naive. Your employer gives you a pamphlet with suggestions, the implication is that it is in your best interest to follow said suggestions.

 

And then states that your silence speaks volumes acording to their interpertations of YOU the employee.

 

 

Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality.

“Don’t judge or remain silent,” the brochure read. “Silence will be interpreted as disapproval.”

 

 

 

They aren't naive. They are looking for a fight and with those who they disagree with and those they want to intemidate.

 

Ones silence is now disapproval? "Psssssssssssssst...Fred in warrants and accounting hasn't affirmed you. The bigger uppers need to know. He might be one of them."

 

Yelling "fire" in a theater is not protected by free speech. Yelling " " in the DOJ isn't either as of today.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

I routinely ignore stupid policies. If you do your job well, sh!t like this is inconsequential.

 

 

Did you read where it said "order"?

 

 

 

Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality.

 

 

What does vocally affirm mean to you Dr?

 

 

[penultimatestraw 473]

 

 

Did you read where it said "order"?

 

 

 

Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality.

 

 

What does vocally affirm mean to you Dr?

 

 

I read the brochure; it doesn't order anything. You read the FoxNews interpretation of the brochure, with editorial hysteria included.

 

I will reiterate: sh!t like this is inconsequential and can be ignored if one does a good job. If you do a crappy job, admin can use nonsense like this against you. So do well at your work and don't worry about it.

[MDC 7,299]

Did the brochure come from DOJ or this DOJ Pride advocacy group?

[penultimatestraw 473]

Did the brochure come from DOJ or this DOJ Pride advocacy group?

Looks like DOJ Pride to me.

[penultimatestraw 473]

You can't be this naive. Your employer gives you a pamphlet with suggestions, the implication is that it is in your best interest to follow said suggestions.

One other thing. I don't worry about this sh!t like this because my training is always in demand and allows me alternative work/employment if institutional policy is oppressive.

[MDC 7,299]

Looks like DOJ Pride to me.

Me too. In which case, who cares?

[parrot 789]

 

And then states that your silence speaks volumes acording to their interpertations of YOU the employee.

 

 

Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality.

“Don’t judge or remain silent,” the brochure read. “Silence will be interpreted as disapproval.”

 

 

 

They aren't naive. They are looking for a fight and with those who they disagree with and those they want to intemidate.

 

Ones silence is now disapproval? "Psssssssssssssst...Fred in warrants and accounting hasn't affirmed you. The bigger uppers need to know. He might be one of them."

 

Yelling "fire" in a theater is not protected by free speech. Yelling " " in the DOJ isn't either as of today.

Oh please. You post this crap, along with the over-the-top Fox editorializing, then cry 'intimidation' if anyone takes issue with it? You sound like a PC , no offense. It's a discussion forum. Nut up buttercup.

 

I think what they are saying is that silence from a manager might be interpreted by the gay employee as disapproval, even if the manager doesn't intend it that way. So the suggestion is, talk to your gay employees just like you would any other. Crazy idea right there.

 

Some of the stuff in there is decent, constructive advice, and some is a little silly and excessive. So you keep the baby, and throw out the bath water. It ain't all that tough.

[jerryskids 6,735]

One other thing. I don't worry about this sh!t like this because my training is always in demand and allows me alternative work/employment if institutional policy is oppressive.

I understand that. Unfortunately, not everyone is in your situation. Also regarding the source (DOJ vs. DOJ Pride), not everyone will make that distinction. If it is being sent to all DOJ employees, there is a tacit endorsement from DOJ.

 

I think it is reasonable to assume that many employees will interpret this pamphlet as describing behaviors which are required of their job. If you disagree with my assumption let me know.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Crazy people tend to read into things that aren't really there. And Fox News is all too happy to oblige them. What are you gonna do?

[MDC 7,299]

I understand that. Unfortunately, not everyone is in your situation. Also regarding the source (DOJ vs. DOJ Pride), not everyone will make that distinction. If it is being sent to all DOJ employees, there is a tacit endorsement from DOJ.

 

I think it is reasonable to assume that many employees will interpret this pamphlet as describing behaviors which are required of their job. If you disagree with my assumption let me know.

I can't tell whether this brochure was sent to all employees or just management. Either way, the brochure was sent from an advocacy group - not the DOJ itself.

 

So what we have here is a brochure of management suggestions by an advocacy group, followed by a bunch of hyperbole and speculation.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

If you go to the OP and sub "Christian" for every "Ghey/LBGT/homersexual" and vice versa, and the bored libtards would be foaming at the mouth.

[patweisers44 840]

Straight or gay over the top PDA is offensive. It's not a business or working topic. It's irrelevant. I work with plenty of people who are gay and they make no efforts to either promote it or hide it, it works fine.

This. You want to be treated equally, treat your sexuality as normal and everyone else will as well. Draw attention via excessive PDAs, or parades, or whatever and thats where people have issues.

[Voltaire 5,282]

If you go to the OP and sub "Christian" for every "Ghey/LBGT/homersexual" and vice versa, and the bored libtards would be foaming at the mouth.

Maybe. I think the annoyance factors are very similar and even the attempts to try to beat non-fellow travelers into submission and shove their beliefs down other people's throats are starting to even out. I'm not into this pro-gay thing generally but the one upside is it's funny seeing Christian fundies getting a taste of their own medicine from the gays.

[parrot 789]

I understand that. Unfortunately, not everyone is in your situation. Also regarding the source (DOJ vs. DOJ Pride), not everyone will make that distinction. If it is being sent to all DOJ employees, there is a tacit endorsement from DOJ.

 

I think it is reasonable to assume that many employees will interpret this pamphlet as describing behaviors which are required of their job. If you disagree with my assumption let me know.

I'm guessing managerial level, government, UNION employees are able to distinguish between suggestions offered by an advocacy group, and their actual employment policies.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

Crazy people tend to read into things that aren't really there. And Fox News is all too happy to oblige them. What are you gonna do?

 

 

 

Is the goverment agency really there?

[IGotWorms 4,057]

 

 

 

Is the goverment agency really there?

Yes. The DOJ does, in fact, exist

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

Yes. The DOJ does, in fact, exist

 

 

How would you feel if a anti-abortion advocacy group in the DOJ sent out a brouchere advising all prolifers to put a sticker in their office showing their support for pro life?

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

How would you feel if a anti-abortion advocacy group in the DOJ sent out a brouchere advising all prolifers to put a sticker in their office showing their support for pro life?

Are you really comparing the two?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

How would you feel if a anti-abortion advocacy group in the DOJ sent out a brouchere advising all prolifers to put a sticker in their office showing their support for pro life?

 

I am sure all those defending this would have no problem with the DOJ advising all employees to hang a crucifix in their cubicle to show their religious tolerance.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

 

 

How would you feel if a anti-abortion advocacy group in the DOJ sent out a brouchere advising all prolifers to put a sticker in their office showing their support for pro life?

You're assuming I am rabidly pro-choice, which is not accurate.

 

But to answer the question, I would consider that inappropriate.

 

However, are there any unborn fetuses in the DOJ who may be discriminated against? I doubt it, so you can see how the two situations aren't exactly analogous.

 

I will concede though that this DOJ Pride group may be acting inappropriately, if the facts really are as stated by Fox News (which is probably unlikely). I just don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as you're making it into. Like not 1/100th as much of an issue as you seem to believe.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

Are you really comparing the two?

 

 

Why not? If one believes in pro-life, what's the big deal if they want to put a sticker on the wall showing their support. That way, fellow employees with their beliefs will be able to recognige them and affirm them. Why don't we also put a sticker up for men showing our love for poosay. And tell anybody that doesn't affirm our love for poosay that it will be interperated as disapproval.

[OldMaid 2,130]

Stop hyperventilating, Bunny. It's going to be okay.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

You're assuming I am rabidly pro-choice, which is not accurate.

 

But to answer the question, I would consider that inappropriate.

 

However, are there any unborn fetuses in the DOJ who may be discriminated against? I doubt it, so you can see how the two situations aren't exactly analogous.

 

I will concede though that this DOJ Pride group may be acting inappropriately, if the facts really are as stated by Fox News (which is probably unlikely). I just don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as you're making it into. Like not 1/100th as much of an issue as you seem to believe.

 

 

You don't see it as an issue because you really can't defend it.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

Stop hyperventilating, Bunny. It's going to be okay.

 

Stop hyperventilating, Bunny. It's going to be okay.

 

 

It's all relative.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

Why not? If one believes in pro-life, what's the big deal if they want to put a sticker on the wall showing their support. That way, fellow employees with their beliefs will be able to recognige them and affirm them. Why don't we also put a sticker up for men showing our love for poosay. And tell anybody that doesn't affirm our love for poosay that it will be interperated as disapproval.

It's so hard debating someone with neanderthalic beliefs. Why do homosexuals bother you? I'm not talking about PDA, flamboyant, in-your-face gays, just everyday guys and gals who happen to be attracted to the same sex. It has absolutely ZERO affect on you. Or anyone else.

[MDC 7,299]

I am sure all those defending this would have no problem with the DOJ advising all employees to hang a crucifix in their cubicle to show their religious tolerance.

The DOJ didn't send out this brochure. If DOJ Employees for Christ sent me a list of suggestions on how to relate to Christian employees it would end up in the garbage.

[Mungwater 596]

It's so hard debating someone with neanderthalic beliefs. Why do homosexuals bother you? I'm not talking about PDA, flamboyant, in-your-face gays, just everyday guys and gals who happen to be attracted to the same sex. It has absolutely ZERO affect on you. Or anyone else.

That's what I have trouble understanding, even those ultra religious folks: "it's a sin, they're going to burn.."

 

Sounds like their problem, how does that effect you?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

It's so hard debating someone with neanderthalic beliefs. Why do homosexuals bother you? I'm not talking about PDA, flamboyant, in-your-face gays, just everyday guys and gals who happen to be attracted to the same sex. It has absolutely ZERO affect on you. Or anyone else.

 

 

I have no problem with ghey people at ALL. Live your life however you want and do whatever you want in the bedroom. I don't really care. What bothers me is the in your face recognize me and show me the special treatment I deserve people. I have flamboyant ghey friends that can't stand them either. Fine. Your ghey. We get it. Now go on and live your life. Lets get some work done. We can recognize your gheyness after work.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

I have no problem with ghey people at ALL. Live your life however you want and do whatever you want in the bedroom. I don't really care. What bothers me is the in your face recognize me and show me the special treatment I deserve people. I have flamboyant ghey friends that can't stand them either. Fine. Your ghey. We get it. Now go on and live your life. Lets get some work done. We can recognize your gheyness after work.

I don't think it's 'special' treatment they're looking for. They can't even get married. They are looking for equal treatment.

[parrot 789]

The DOJ didn't send out this brochure. If DOJ Employees for Christ sent me a list of suggestions on how to relate to Christian employees it would end up in the garbage.

 

How narrow-minded of you. Christians have huge tolerance problems in our culture. I mean sure, their 'God' is printed on our money, and mentioned in our pledge of allegiance, but only 70 or 80 some odd percent of our country identifies as Christian, and sometimes when you walk into a store you get "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". It's a war I tell ya.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

I don't think it's 'special' treatment they're looking for. They can't even get married. They are looking for equal treatment.

 

 

What happens after they can get married? Is the issue completely resolved when it comes to equal treatment?

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

What happens after they can get married? Is the issue completely resolved when it comes to equal treatment?

What 'issue' worries you? They want the same rights that you and I have. That's all.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,413]

What 'issue' worries you? They want the same rights that you and I have. That's all.

 

 

I have no worries. They have all the rights we have. And then some. But I'm guessing the ghey lobby doesn't.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

I have no worries. They have all the rights we have. And then some. But I'm guessing the ghey lobby doesn't.

They do? You fell in love and got married. Can they do that?