Spicy snack foods sending children to the emergency room, experts claim

[Phurfur 70]

The manufacturers of Flamin’ Hot Cheetos may jokingly tout their product as being “dangerously cheesy,” but some doctors argue that the slogan may not be an exaggeration.

Pediatricians are warning parents of the dangers of extremely spicy snacks – such as Cheetos and other chips – claiming these foods are sending numerous children to the emergency room each year, Medical Daily reported. According to experts, eating too many spicy products can cause significant inflammation of the stomach lining, which can ultimately lead to severe abdominal pain.

“We have a population who loves to eat the hot, spicy, not-real foods, and they come in [to the emergency room] with these real complaints,” Dr. Martha Rivera of White Memorial Medical Center in Los Angeles told KABC-TV.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/11/18/spicy-snack-foods-sending-children-to-emergency-room-experts-claim/?intcmp=latestnews

 

Eat spicy foods, get a stomach ache, go to the emergency room. Americans are so stupid and this is part of the reason our health care costs are so high. Of course they have been conditioned to act this way. MK-Ultra

 

We've come a long way since Doctors made house calls and emergency room were not crowded but we weren't the "Great Society" back then.

[MDC 7,921]

Great thread, learned a lot.

[DankNuggs 305]

I had a bag of spicy dill pickle kettle chips, delicious... a little too salty though. You either like salt and vinegar chips or you hate them

[hoytdwow 202]

I dip my Flamin Hot Cheetos in Frank's Red Hot

[DankNuggs 305]

I dip my Flamin Hot Cheetos in Frank's Red Hot

damn skippy...

 

I used to eat those red hot sausages they sell next to the slim jims and jerky section in gas stations. Until i looked at the ingrediants and saw the first item was 'beef lips'....couldn't mentally get over that... Never ate them again. They were delicious tho.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I had no idea Cheetos were part of the MK Ultra conspiracy. How high up does this thing go?

[hoytdwow 202]

Until i looked at the ingrediants and saw the first item was 'beef lips'....couldn't mentally get over that... Never ate them again.

You're so programmed by liberal groupthink it's sickening.

 

We Are The Great Society!

[edjr 6,908]

For once, Phurfail has a point and is right about something.

 

Because he is the boy that cried wolf, no one gives a fock.

[DankNuggs 305]

For once, Phurfail has a point and is right about something.

 

Because he is the boy that cried wolf, no one gives a fock.

True, emergency room visits are the biggest killer of any HC system... My BCBS plan has a 24hr nurse line that saves the company money by adding it, bc if a phone call saves an emergency room visit, it is an enormous cost saver.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I had no idea Cheetos were part of the MK Ultra conspiracy. How high up does this thing go?

 

Apparently the government mind control has taught us that if we have hurt our stomach...with "significant inflammation of the stomach lining"...the government has programmed us to seek medical attention.

 

And that is why our health care costs are high...because people seek medical help for significant inflammation of their stomach lining.

 

 

Damn mind control.

 

Should it be an ER visit...probably not. But depending on the child...get a kid screaming in pain about his stomach bothering him when a visit to the regular doctor is not available...and of course a parent will take them to the ER.

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'beef lips'

Are those like meat curtains?

[patweisers44 865]

Are those like meat curtains?

How about Ham Wallet....?

[Herbivore 1,201]

 

Apparently the government mind control has taught us that if we have hurt our stomach...with "significant inflammation of the stomach lining"...the government has programmed us to seek medical attention.

 

And that is why our health care costs are high...because people seek medical help for significant inflammation of their stomach lining.

 

 

Damn mind control.

 

Should it be an ER visit...probably not. But depending on the child...get a kid screaming in pain about his stomach bothering him when a visit to the regular doctor is not available...and of course a parent will take them to the ER.

 

If only there was a way to lower these unnecessary ER Visits.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

 

If only there was a way to lower these unnecessary ER Visits.

We could require everyone to buy healthy insurance so they can go to a normal doc when they get sick. Some republican governor did that a few years back but I'm sure the dems will never go for it

[frank 2,348]

I dip my Flamin Hot Cheetos in Frank's Red Hot

 

[Phurfur 70]

We could require the successful hard working people to buy healthy insurance for everyone else so they can go to a normal doc when they get sick.

fixed

 

BTW: The point is that they aren't sick.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

fixed

 

BTW: The point is that they aren't sick.

Are cranky old welfare queens "successful" and "hard working"?

[Sho Nuff 720]

fixed

 

BTW: The point is that they aren't sick.

 

Significantly inflammed stomach lining is normal to you?

Umm...ok.

[hoytdwow 202]

 

Significantly inflammed stomach lining is normal to you?

Umm...ok.

It isn't normal, but the treatment is a glass of warm milk and The Andy Griffith Show, not doctors and hospitals and all that

[Sho Nuff 720]

It isn't normal, but the treatment is a glass of warm milk and The Andy Griffith Show, not doctors and hospitals and all that

 

And again...when you have a screaming 9 year old on a Saturday night....what makes more sense.

Giving a kid screaming about stomach pain a glass of warm milk...yeah, no thanks.

 

Thankfully my kid can handle the spicy nacho doritos, spicy cheetos...and freaking Takis which are quite spicy.

 

But I do love the armchair parents acting as if something that is causing enough pain for a child to agree to go to the ER is simple to diagnose or in phurfur's case...ignore the kid because he is too busy searching foxnews to post another link at FFT.

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True, emergency room visits are the biggest killer of any HC system... My BCBS plan has a 24hr nurse line that saves the company money by adding it, bc if a phone call saves an emergency room visit, it is an enormous cost saver.

End of life care is a bigger expense, but unnecessary use of ERs is a colossal waste too.

 

The nurse line is a good idea though.

[penultimatestraw 473]

We could require everyone to buy healthy insurance so they can go to a normal doc when they get sick. Some republican governor did that a few years back but I'm sure the dems will never go for it

I don't think it is that easy. The vast majority of people I admit from the ER have primary care providers. I don't know the stats among those the ER sends home, but I bet a huge hunk of them are just ignorant of what constitutes an "emergency".

 

Which I think is part of Phurfur's point.

[tikigods 76]

I don't think it is that easy. The vast majority of people I admit from the ER have primary care providers. I don't know the stats among those the ER sends home, but I bet a huge hunk of them are just ignorant of what constitutes an "emergency".

 

Which I think is part of Phurfur's point.

 

If you call the ER they tell you that they can't advise you over the phone and you have to come in. Lawsuits for phone malpractice.

[Vikings4ever 569]

End of life care is a bigger expense, but unnecessary use of ERs is a colossal waste too.

 

The nurse line is a good idea though.

I think everyone can agree the ER system is being abused.

 

But I think the question has to be asked: why is ER care so expensive? Obviously they see a lot of serious injuries, so that's a big contributing cost. But why should (for example) going there for the flu cost so much more than going to a primary physician?

 

Is it really that much more expensive to treat at the ER? Or is that so many people skip out on the bill that the hospitals have to gouge the people (and insurance companies) that do pay? If everyone paid their bill, would an ER visit be comparable to one to a primary care physician?

 

If the answer is yes, then ultimately Obamacare is a shell game. Instead of people who buy their insurance paying for the uninsured, the taxpayer (a large overlap with the previous group) pays for the uninsured to get insurance.

 

Health care, and health care spending, in this country definitely needs to be reformed. But considering all signs is that Obamacare will do nothing to contain health care costs, and in fact likely will make it more expensive, it's not a step in the right direction.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I think everyone can agree the ER system is being abused.

 

But I think the question has to be asked: why is ER care so expensive? Obviously they see a lot of serious injuries, so that's a big contributing cost. But why should (for example) going there for the flu cost so much more than going to a primary physician?

 

Is it really that much more expensive to treat at the ER? Or is that so many people skip out on the bill that the hospitals have to gouge the people (and insurance companies) that do pay? If everyone paid their bill, would an ER visit be comparable to one to a primary care physician?

 

If the answer is yes, then ultimately Obamacare is a shell game. Instead of people who buy their insurance paying for the uninsured, the taxpayer (a large overlap with the previous group) pays for the uninsured to get insurance.

 

Health care, and health care spending, in this country definitely needs to be reformed. But considering all signs is that Obamacare will do nothing to contain health care costs, and in fact likely will make it more expensive, it's not a step in the right direction.

 

That is the ultimate failure of Obamacare... all it does is find a way to pay the exhorbitant, ridiculous costs, it does nothing to lower them.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

If you call the ER they tell you that they can't advise you over the phone and you have to come in. Lawsuits for phone malpractice.

 

Right...any insurance company will have some hotline to call.

They advise you a little bit...sort of triage.

 

Did this when my son jumped from the steps...landing tooth first into my daughter's scalp.

Had her bleading from the head and him from the mouth.

He was fine...her head kept bleeding and would not stop. Advised us on all the little signs for a possible concussion.

Said if we could get it stopped in a certain time and it was not a deep or big wound that she would likely be fine til seeing the regular doc the next day.

 

Well...after and hour, she was still bleeding and with it being on her head we took her in.

It was worth the $100 or whatever we pay for Emergency care at that point to make sure I would not wake up to my daughter laying in a pool of blood on her pillow.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

 

Right...any insurance company will have some hotline to call.

They advise you a little bit...sort of triage.

 

Did this when my son jumped from the steps...landing tooth first into my daughter's scalp.

Had her bleading from the head and him from the mouth.

He was fine...her head kept bleeding and would not stop. Advised us on all the little signs for a possible concussion.

Said if we could get it stopped in a certain time and it was not a deep or big wound that she would likely be fine til seeing the regular doc the next day.

 

Well...after and hour, she was still bleeding and with it being on her head we took her in.

It was worth the $100 or whatever we pay for Emergency care at that point to make sure I would not wake up to my daughter laying in a pool of blood on her pillow.

We are the Great Society!

[penultimatestraw 473]

 

If you call the ER they tell you that they can't advise you over the phone and you have to come in. Lawsuits for phone malpractice.

This is frequently done because many people cannot communicate their health problems effectively, in addition to liability concerns.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I think everyone can agree the ER system is being abused.

 

But I think the question has to be asked: why is ER care so expensive? Obviously they see a lot of serious injuries, so that's a big contributing cost. But why should (for example) going there for the flu cost so much more than going to a primary physician?

 

Is it really that much more expensive to treat at the ER? Or is that so many people skip out on the bill that the hospitals have to gouge the people (and insurance companies) that do pay? If everyone paid their bill, would an ER visit be comparable to one to a primary care physician?

 

If the answer is yes, then ultimately Obamacare is a shell game. Instead of people who buy their insurance paying for the uninsured, the taxpayer (a large overlap with the previous group) pays for the uninsured to get insurance.

 

Health care, and health care spending, in this country definitely needs to be reformed. But considering all signs is that Obamacare will do nothing to contain health care costs, and in fact likely will make it more expensive, it's not a step in the right direction.

ER doctors and nurses are more highly trained than their primary care counterparts, and ERs have much higher operating expenses (maintaining all the technology and additional personnel) than the typical outpatient office. The patient ends up paying a share of this, no matter their underlying diagnosis.

[penultimatestraw 473]

 

That is the ultimate failure of Obamacare... all it does is find a way to pay the exhorbitant, ridiculous costs, it does nothing to lower them.

Agree that cost containment should have been addressed simultaneously with access.

[penultimatestraw 473]

 

Right...any insurance company will have some hotline to call.

They advise you a little bit...sort of triage.

 

Did this when my son jumped from the steps...landing tooth first into my daughter's scalp.

Had her bleading from the head and him from the mouth.

He was fine...her head kept bleeding and would not stop. Advised us on all the little signs for a possible concussion.

Said if we could get it stopped in a certain time and it was not a deep or big wound that she would likely be fine til seeing the regular doc the next day.

 

Well...after and hour, she was still bleeding and with it being on her head we took her in.

It was worth the $100 or whatever we pay for Emergency care at that point to make sure I would not wake up to my daughter laying in a pool of blood on her pillow.

Unless she needed sutures (stitches) the bleeding probably would've stopped with direct pressure. What did the ER do?

[hoytdwow 202]

 

But I think the question has to be asked: why is ER care so expensive? Obviously they see a lot of serious injuries, so that's a big contributing cost. But why should (for example) going there for the flu cost so much more than going to a primary physician?

 

Because it's a profit driver for hospitals.

 

I've mentioned here before, but I went to the ER a couple summers ago to get stitches. I ended up having a $150 copay and got billed $700 out of pocket to boot. If I had gone to the urgent care clinic, it would have been a $40 co pay.

[penultimatestraw 473]

Because it's a profit driver for hospitals.

 

I've mentioned here before, but I went to the ER a couple summers ago to get stitches. I ended up having a $150 copay and got billed $700 out of pocket to boot. If I had gone to the urgent care clinic, it would have been a $40 co pay.

Do you have any data to support ERs are money makers for hospitals? I don't know for sure, but suspect they aren't. Outpatient surgery/procedures and diagnostic imagery make a lot more.

 

Free standing "urgent care" centers are another matter.

[hoytdwow 202]

Do you have any data to support ERs are money makers for hospitals? I don't know for sure, but suspect they aren't. Outpatient surgery/procedures and diagnostic imagery make a lot more.

 

Free standing "urgent care" centers are another matter.

Right, I'm sure the hospital took my $850 and gave it to charity.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Unless she needed sutures (stitches) the bleeding probably would've stopped with direct pressure. What did the ER do?

 

It was worrisome as even with pressure it was still dripping/oozing.

ER cleaned it up...said they could have stiched it...and if it were anywhere else on the body they would have.

With where it was on her head...in her hair, they said that would be more trouble later.

After cleaning and more pressure it finally did stop.

But it kept my wife from freaking out the whole night.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Right, I'm sure the hospital took my $850 and gave it to charity.

In a sense they did. They charged you more to defray the cost of the poor person next to you who couldn't pay.

 

 

Kinda like that Obamacare you keep defending, so STFU.

[tikigods 76]

This is frequently done because many people cannot communicate their health problems effectively, in addition to liability concerns.

 

It's done because nurses or ER doctors can't diagnose over the phone in fear of malpractice lawsuits.

[ROCKFORD 134]

can we get back to the cheetoes?

[penultimatestraw 473]

Right, I'm sure the hospital took my $850 and gave it to charity.

You misunderstood my point. Hospitals are expensive to run, and considering their overhead, ERs are not big moneymakers. Do you have data that says otherwise?

 

Admittedly, I am basing my opinion on the priorities of hospital admin where I've worked, and never having heard that the ER is a significant revenue generator.

[penultimatestraw 473]

 

It's done because nurses or ER doctors can't diagnose over the phone in fear of malpractice lawsuits.

This is far too simplistic. Get back to me when you actually field some calls from sick people.