Score two for democracy

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Worms tilted in his defense of cheating

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

Worms tilted in his defense of cheating

No.

 

Wanting to identify those voting as who they say they are is an act of Treason against America. It is clearly spelled out in the Declaration of Independence.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Link to all the disenfranchisement that went on after these laws were put in place?

 

Stupid statement. You want people to prove a negative...people that didn't vote due to ID laws.

 

By the way, where is your link to prove that voter ID is needed to protect us against election fraud, remember we're looking for .05%?

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

. You want people to prove a negative...people that didn't vote due to ID laws.

 

 

You claim people who want to vote are being refused that right.

 

Those are the folks you are basing your opposition to voter ID laws on. Are you saying you can't show us any?

 

Seems like a non-existent problem.

[redtodd 7]

Oh bullsh!t. You don't think the reason for seeking to pass laws has any bearing on their merit? Come on.

 

I mean half of you guys are sitting here telling us it won't disenfranchise voters when THE ENTIRE REASON FOR THE LAWS IS TO SUPPRESS VOTER TURNOUT.

 

Honestly, I don't really know how you can live with yourself supporting anti-democracy garbage like this. And that's not hyperbole, I really think that you should consider yourselves traitors to the American political system

 

[Baker Boy 1,703]

Stupid statement. You want people to prove a negative...people that didn't vote due to ID laws.

 

By the way, where is your link to prove that voter ID is needed to protect us against election fraud, remember we're looking for .05%?

You need a link to show you the effects on a country that lets anyone walk across its borders and gives them food, room and board, health care, and the right to vote. There is a certain amount of normal intelligence involved here.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

You claim people who want to vote are being refused that right.

 

Those are the folks you are basing your opposition to voter ID laws on. Are you saying you can't show us any?

 

Seems like a non-existent problem.

 

Show us the need for the law, (you know the first thing that is required before creating a law) the vast numbers of people defrauding elections, people elected to office fraudulently, or are you saying you can't show us any?

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

Bridgeport Connecticut state representative, Christina Ayala, was arrested on 19 counts of voter fraud. They included eight counts of fraudulent voting, ten counts of primary or enrollment violations, and one count of tampering with or fabricating physical evidence.

The arrest warrant alleges that Ayala voted in multiple Bridgeport Democratic Town Committee elections, a municipal primary election, and a state primary election in districts she didn’t live in. The warrant also claims she provided fabricated address information when applying for public campaign finance grants.

 

 

 

You are now 19 cases behind, Honcho.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

You need a link to show you the effects on a country that lets anyone walk across its borders and gives them food, room and board, health care, and the right to vote. There is a certain amount of normal intelligence involved here.

 

Of which you just clearly showed in your statement you don't possess.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

 

 

You are now 19 cases behind, Honcho.

 

RP, she voted under her own name, voter ID woudn't have done anything. So back to 0 for you.

 

And by the way, 1 person doesn't equal .05% threshold we've established. So again...are you saying you can't show us any?

[Baker Boy 1,703]

Show us the need for the law, the vast numbers of people defrauding elections, people elected to office fraudulently, or are you saying you can't show us any?

I have often wondered what would happen when a country's "next generation" was not prepared to carry on for the current generation.

Well Generation X you are it. What a bunch of clueless incompetent losers and Baby Boomer you suck as parents.

 

It's a new dawn.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

I have often wondered what would happen when a country's "next generation" was not prepared to carry on for the current generation.

Well Generation X you are it. What a bunch of clueless incompetent losers and Baby Boomer you suck as parents.

 

It's a new dawn.

 

English as a Second Language.

 

HTH.

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

 

 

And by the way, 1 person doesn't equal .05% threshold we've established.

You pulled that number out of your ass, Sport.

 

Me = 19

 

Honcho = ZIP!

 

[Baker Boy 1,703]

English as a Second Language.

 

HTH.

 

Do you want me to dumb it down for you? I don't think it will help

[MDC 7,491]

 

 

You are now 19 cases behind, Honcho.

I'm wondering how voter ID laws would've prevented this from happening?

[Sho Nuff 720]

You need a link to show you the effects on a country that lets anyone walk across its borders and gives them food, room and board, health care, and the right to vote. There is a certain amount of normal intelligence involved here.

 

So you have proof that these illegals were given the right to vote and did so fraudulently?

Or just more claims without a single thing to back them up?

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

So you have proof that these illegals were given the right to vote and did so fraudulently?

Or just more claims without a single thing to back them up?

Ohio:

 

http://conservativetribune.com/illegals-caught-voting-in-ohio/

 

 

Florida:

 

http://watchdogwire.com/florida/video/illegal-aliens-caught-voting-and-stealing-elections-in-florida/

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

You pulled that number out of your ass, Sport.

 

Me = 19

 

Honcho = ZIP!

 

 

First I have already shown a disenfrachised voter(so wrong again)...Typical how you ignore the part where Voter ID would have had no effect on this case though.

 

And you are right, I gave you a number(arbitrarily)that would be 5% of the estimated amount of people who could be disenfranchised due to voter ID, and you can't even find that. So thanks for proving conclusively these laws are not needed to fight voter fraud but are being created to discourage people who typically vote democrat from voting. Just like the GOP leadership has stated.

[paulinstl 296]

17 alleged illegal votes out of over 5 million.

 

[jerryskids 6,829]

 

Show us the need for the law, (you know the first thing that is required before creating a law) the vast numbers of people defrauding elections, people elected to office fraudulently, or are you saying you can't show us any?

If we don't have a mechanism to identify the fraud, how exactly would one know how much fraud is occurring?

[HenryHill9323 65]

 

First I have already shown a disenfrachised voter(so wrong again)...

 

Oh yeah....I forgot about the 100 year old black guy the Dems pulled off his porch in Alabama and trotted him up to the polls despite him not getting the ID he knew he needed.

 

One out of tens of millions of votes.

[jerryskids 6,829]

Oh bullsh!t. You don't think the reason for seeking to pass laws has any bearing on their merit? Come on.

 

I mean half of you guys are sitting here telling us it won't disenfranchise voters when THE ENTIRE REASON FOR THE LAWS IS TO SUPPRESS VOTER TURNOUT.

 

Honestly, I don't really know how you can live with yourself supporting anti-democracy garbage like this. And that's not hyperbole, I really think that you should consider yourselves traitors to the American political system

The Dem party is equally motivated to maintain those voters because they vote for the party of Free Stuff.

[KSB2424 3,148]

If we don't have a mechanism to identify the fraud, how exactly would one know how much fraud is occurring?

 

This is the part that baffles me. Any current voter fraud statistic is, by its very nature null and void. You can't measure something that you don't have a mechanism to properly/easily identify.

 

This would be like showing what percentage of people drive over the speed limit but not allowing police cars to have radar. Then coming out with some statistic like " only 0.1 percent of Americans ever speed!@#!"

[drobeski 3,061]

If we don't have a mechanism to identify the fraud, how exactly would one know how much fraud is occurring?

great question

 

Cheaters gotta cheat

[SUXBNME 1,516]

great question

 

Cheaters gotta cheat

Plumbers gotta plumb

[IGotWorms 4,058]

 

Worms tilted in his defense of cheating

"Cheating"? Wtf are you even taking about??

[IGotWorms 4,058]

 

If I had my way, you'd be shot for treason

[drobeski 3,061]

Plumbers gotta plumb

parts guys gotta get parts

And wear a name tag

And ask if you want to join the rewards club

[SUXBNME 1,516]

parts guys gotta get parts

And wear a name tag

And ask if you want to join the rewards club

I'm not one of the above. Try again

[drobeski 3,061]

I'm not one of the above. Try again

no

[jerryskids 6,829]

If I had my way, you'd be shot for treason

Why is it treasonous to want to protect the sanctity of the election process?

[HenryHill9323 65]

Why is it treasonous to want to protect the sanctity of the election process?

It sez so in the Declaration of Independence.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Why is it treasonous to want to protect the sanctity of the election process?

You already admitted these laws are subterfuge to suppress voter turnout

[HenryHill9323 65]

The right to vote permeates the whole damn Constitution, dummy. Not to mention the Declaration of Independence

 

 

 

Really? The right to vote is spelled out in the Declaration of Independence???

 

 

Here is the text of it, Dumbfukk. Show us where they spell out the right of vote, or even mention it.

 

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

 

[jerryskids 6,829]

You already admitted these laws are subterfuge to suppress voter turnout

No I didn't. The laws have the effect of resulting in fewer democrats, which the GOP likes. But the underlying reason is that lazy, unmotivated people won't do what they need to do.

 

Look, I'm not in favor of stuff like passing a law weeks before an election requiring ID, nor is it fair to have an ID location open 4 days per year. ID access should be reasonably available.

 

Let me ask: if there were an ID supply on every streetcorner, and they were open 24/7, and they were free, would you support it? If so, we are fundamentally aligned, and just differ on the minimum level of effort.

[HenryHill9323 65]

:popcorn:

[IGotWorms 4,058]

No I didn't. The laws have the effect of resulting in fewer democrats, which the GOP likes. But the underlying reason is that lazy, unmotivated people won't do what they need to do.

 

Look, I'm not in favor of stuff like passing a law weeks before an election requiring ID, nor is it fair to have an ID location open 4 days per year. ID access should be reasonably available.

 

Let me ask: if there were an ID supply on every streetcorner, and they were open 24/7, and they were free, would you support it? If so, we are fundamentally aligned, and just differ on the minimum level of effort.

I do not support any measure designed to disenfranchise voters, especially when no need whatsoever has been shown for the law. HTH

[jerryskids 6,829]

I do not support any measure designed to disenfranchise voters, especially when no need whatsoever has been shown for the law. HTH

That was mildly non-responsive. Should I take that as a "no"? Also see my earlier (yet unanswered) question regarding how one shows fraud when no mechanism exists to measure fraud.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

That was mildly non-responsive. Should I take that as a "no"? Also see my earlier (yet unanswered) question regarding how one shows fraud when no mechanism exists to measure fraud.

If it's voter ID fraud, the problem would manifest itself when two people try to vote under the same identity

[IGotWorms 4,058]

http://bradblog.com/Docs/JudgePosnerDissent_PhotoID_WI_101014.pdf