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I would personalize the acceptable B.A.C. level for operating a motor vehicle.

 

If you want to be subject to the .08 level, no problem. But I'd give people the option of paying for an Enhanced B.A.C. License. A Class D license.

 

You would have to pay a fee and take multiple driving tests over a specified period of time, while consuming a specified amount of alcohol between each test, until you fail. Your personal B.A.C. level would be set at the level it was when you passed your last test.

 

Spoken like a true alcoholic.

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You just can't handle your liquor, pvssie. Do you wear a helmet in bars?

 

I can't, and I wear a helmet all the time.

 

My skull is soft. I have osteomalacia.

 

Thanks for making me feel bad, meanie.

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Ban lobbyists.

 

Term limits would help that as the I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine is limited. Term limits would help most everything. THE main issue are these career politicians who stop looking out for their constituents and start playing the game.

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I can't, and I wear a helmet all the time.

 

My skull is soft. I have osteomalacia.

 

Thanks for making me feel bad, meanie.

Your bones wouldn't be so soft if the sunlight could penetrate that stinkin' helmet!

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No. The US' BAC limits are among the highest in the world, and there are plenty of studies showing humans make mental errors and coordination decreases well below 0.08. Why create a system that promotes driving at higher levels for those that can "handle it", especially considering the impact of co-ingested substances/medications, waning liver function over time, etc. Not to mention the logistics of testing "safe" BAC limits - it'd be great to clean up the mess every time some alcoholic tough guy tries his luck at a "higher" license and fails.

 

Hell, why don't we individualize the speed limit as well?

I realize you have professional reasons why you dislike alcohol consumption but let's try to put those aside.

 

If you have demonstrated the ability to safely operate a motor vehicle at elevated BAC levels what's the problem?

 

The tests would be administered on a closed course so there's no risk of injury to the general public. Also, you would be required to retest after each drink so you're going to fail before you get chitfaced. You don't have to crash to fail, you just have to display impairment.

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Spoken like a true alcoholic.

:cheers:

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You just can't handle your liquor, pvssie. Do you wear a helmet in bars?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Your bones wouldn't be so soft if the sunlight could penetrate that stinkin' helmet!

 

I also have severe sun sensitivity.

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Lobbyists drive policy and link politicians to reality. Only a complete moron could think our government could work without them.

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Lobbyists drive agendas and link politicians to slush money. Only a complete moron would think our politicians would do anything without bribes.

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I realize you have professional reasons why you dislike alcohol consumption but let's try to put those aside.

 

If you have demonstrated the ability to safely operate a motor vehicle at elevated BAC levels what's the problem?

 

The tests would be administered on a closed course so there's no risk of injury to the general public. Also, you would be required to retest after each drink so you're going to fail before you get chitfaced. You don't have to crash to fail, you just have to display impairment.

This might be the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

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Lobbyists drive policy and link politicians to reality. Only a complete moron could think our government could work without them.

 

Lobbyists drive agendas and link politicians to slush money to fund future elections. Only a complete moron would think our politicians would do anything without bribes.

 

That's why we need term limits. Lobbyists have a role, but with term limits you limit the negative aspect as there are not career politicians with hands out for election cycle after election cycle.

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This might be the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

 

Can you imagine how costly that would be?

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Can you imagine how costly that would be?

Did you miss the part about the fee involved? All costs would be paid by the applicants. It could actually generate revenue.

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Did you miss the part about the fee involved? All costs would be paid by the applicants. It could actually generate revenue.

There are so many other factors involved that I can't believe you think this is possible.

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I realize you have professional reasons why you dislike alcohol consumption but let's try to put those aside.

 

If you have demonstrated the ability to safely operate a motor vehicle at elevated BAC levels what's the problem?

 

The tests would be administered on a closed course so there's no risk of injury to the general public. Also, you would be required to retest after each drink so you're going to fail before you get chitfaced. You don't have to crash to fail, you just have to display impairment.

I don't have professional dislike of alcohol consumption. I have personal dislike of drunk drivers, and our BAC limits are already generous.

 

The limit should be well below the value at which a driver is impaired, not maxed out based on test performance (which surely can vary for reasons other than I've mentioned - level of hydration, sleep, and other distractions, for example) and ability to pay.

 

Honestly, I think the BAC limit for driving should be zero. It isn't that hard to designate a driver, or pay for a taxi rather than a license to drive at higher BAC. And before some of the drunkards get their panties in a wad, using cell phones while driving should be illegal as well.

 

But to give you the benefit of the doubt, what are the benefits of your plan, besides promoting drivers with higher BAC?

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I realize you have professional reasons why you dislike alcohol consumption but let's try to put those aside.

 

If you have demonstrated the ability to safely operate a motor vehicle at elevated BAC levels what's the problem?

 

The tests would be administered on a closed course so there's no risk of injury to the general public. Also, you would be required to retest after each drink so you're going to fail before you get chitfaced. You don't have to crash to fail, you just have to display impairment.

You also should realize drinkers, even those who can "hold their liquor", show signs of impairment at BAC well before they think they are impaired. And below 0.08.

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Wow, lots of crying here about pensions. I get mine on the 1st, every month! How sweet it is! If I had known all my hard work and sacrifice were protecting the likes of Ed jr and Drobeski, I might not have one. But you're welcome. Puzzies.

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Wow, lots of crying here about pensions. I get mine on the 1st, every month! How sweet it is! If I had known all my hard work and sacrifice were protecting the likes of Ed jr and Drobeski, I might not have one. But you're welcome. Puzzies.

leach

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There are so many other factors involved that I can't believe you think this is possible.

First of all, if I recall correctly you were almost killed by a drunk driver so I know you have every reason to disagree with my position. I am not advocating drunk driving as some have implied. I thought I had made that clear but I guess I hadn't.

 

Secondly, I have no doubt that there are a multitude of factors, both logistical and otherwise, that I have failed to consider. I'm perfectly willing to concede that the idea is ill conceived, although I have yet to read one compelling argument against it.

 

I don't have professional dislike of alcohol consumption. I have personal dislike of drunk drivers, and our BAC limits are already generous.

 

The limit should be well below the value at which a driver is impaired, not maxed out based on test performance (which surely can vary for reasons other than I've mentioned - level of hydration, sleep, and other distractions, for example) and ability to pay.

 

Honestly, I think the BAC limit for driving should be zero. It isn't that hard to designate a driver, or pay for a taxi rather than a license to drive at higher BAC. And before some of the drunkards get their panties in a wad, using cell phones while driving should be illegal as well.

 

But to give you the benefit of the doubt, what are the benefits of your plan, besides promoting drivers with higher BAC?

Good point. You're right the accepted BAC level should be well below the threshold of impairment. However if that level is .095 for one person and .053 for another person, I think that distinction is worthy of consideration.

 

There really aren't any benefits to my plan other than maybe preventing undeserved DUI arrests. I have seen good, responsible people lose their jobs and a great deal of money because they were arrested for DUI after a couple of glasses of wine with dinner (no, not me). The "legal limit" is actually a misnomer. You can pass all FST's and blow a .07 and still be charged and convicted of DUI. In my scenario, if you pass all the FST's and register at or below your specified personal BAC level, you could not be charged with DUI. Fail a test or exceed your limit, go to jail.

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Drobeski, even though you are an ungrateful lout, you're welcome for my service. It takes strong, stout men like me to protect the weak and seek out the wrongdoers.

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First of all, if I recall correctly you were almost killed by a drunk driver so I know you have every reason to disagree with my position. I am not advocating drunk driving as some have implied. I thought I had made that clear but I guess I hadn't.

 

Secondly, I have no doubt that there are a multitude of factors, both logistical and otherwise, that I have failed to consider. I'm perfectly willing to concede that the idea is ill conceived, although I have yet to read one compelling argument against it.

 

Good point. You're right the accepted BAC level should be well below the threshold of impairment. However if that level is .095 for one person and .053 for another person, I think that distinction is worthy of consideration.

 

There really aren't any benefits to my plan other than maybe preventing undeserved DUI arrests. I have seen good, responsible people lose their jobs and a great deal of money because they were arrested for DUI after a couple of glasses of wine with dinner (no, not me). The "legal limit" is actually a misnomer. You can pass all FST's and blow a .07 and still be charged and convicted of DUI. In my scenario, if you pass all the FST's and register at or below your specified personal BAC level, you could not be charged with DUI. Fail a test or exceed your limit, go to jail.

Which do you think is a bigger problem, too many undeserved DUIs or unpunished drunk drivers? Maybe more access to breathalyzers or adoption of a personal policy not to drive after drinking could save all your acquaintances from ruining their lives?

 

Even though I think your two wine-swilling victims are fictitious, why do believe some people are charged with DUI despite sub-.08 BAC? Could it be that the the BAC is an imperfect tool? Might this limit its utility in your alcoholic utopia?

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I'm just wondering how you plan to obtain this drinking and driving "sweet" spot, when different types of alcohol will affect the same person differently, along with other things like how much sleep a person has had, any medications they have taken, health, etc. You'd never be able to nail something like that down.

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I'm just wondering how you plan to obtain this drinking and driving "sweet" spot, when different types of alcohol will affect the same person differently, along with other things like how much sleep a person has had, any medications they have taken, health, etc. You'd never be able to nail something like that down.

STFU. Just because one almost killed you, why do you have such disdain for drunk drivers? Stop thinking about yourself and consider the lives of innocent drinkers ruined by DUI(s)!

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STFU. Just because one almost killed you, why do you have such disdain for drunk drivers? Stop thinking about yourself and consider the lives of innocent drinkers ruined by DUI(s)!

I like breathing... I guess I'm selfish. :(

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I would be in favor of a resolution to drop a tactical nuke on the Fox broadcast booth. Im ok if that wipes out everyone at the game. My ears have been terrorized enough.

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I like breathing... I guess I'm selfish. :(

Now I've heard/read everything…don't you think drivers like breathing too? But with our current law, any breath can ruin your life!?!?! I'd rather risk asphyxiation than have a breathalyzer sneak up on me after dinner!

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Half-price Slurpees, Monday through Thursday. :banana:

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Half-price Slurpees, Monday through Thursday. :banana:

As long as we're dreaming big... Cunnilinggus Tuesdays!

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Drobeski, even though you are an ungrateful lout, you're welcome for my service. It takes strong, stout men like me to protect the weak and seek out the wrongdoers.

shut up and eat your donut and be thankful your dad blew the mayor ya fat lazy unskilled leach.

 

New law, your local loser with no skills doesn't get on the police force just because daddy blew the mayor, the jobs go to veterans only.

As of now I'd guess municipal police forces are staffed at least 75% with losers like MB who's dad had to blow the mayor 25% deserving non connected non hack veterans, these numbers should be swapped.

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