Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 Just a whole lotta stupid flying around here. The confederacy was what it was and the flag stands for many things, including fighting a civil war so you can keep your slaves. But this is America and free speech and all, so all this banning sh1t is just going too far. Maybe just everybody tone it down a bit and we can call it good? Is someone calling for banning anything? I just see people calling for it not to be flying over a government building and a bunch of corporations voluntarily agreeing to not sell items associated with it. And if you carefully read posty's sobbing rant piece, it doesn't say that anyone banned anything, just some folks calling for it and some schools changing their names and mascots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 So out of this whole tragedy the main, overriding thing people are talking about is a flag? Good grief. Sometimes it takes a tragedy for people to start talking about doing the right thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted June 24, 2015 Just a whole lotta stupid flying around here. The confederacy was what it was and the flag stands for many things, including fighting a civil war so you can keep your slaves. But this is America and free speech and all, so all this banning sh1t is just going too far. Maybe just everybody tone it down a bit and we can call it good? Privately, yes. If some bearded yahoo wants to hang a confederate flag outside of his trailer next to his Dale Earnhardt banner , more power to him. But it should be banned in public places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted June 24, 2015 What's with the South's continued adoration of this stuff anyway? I would think the Confederate Flag is just a reminder of that time they got collectively -punched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 24, 2015 Anything have to do with Dixie or rebels is now going to be criticized. No one gave a s*** two weeks ago. Now it's "the worst thing ever" and people are "appalled" that there's so many things reminding them of the civil war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,807 Posted June 24, 2015 Anything have to do with Dixie or rebels is now going to be criticized. No one gave a s*** two weeks ago. Now it's "the worst thing ever" and people are "appalled" that there's so many things reminding them of the civil war. Exactly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 24, 2015 Anything have to do with Dixie or rebels is now going to be criticized. No one gave a s*** two weeks ago. Now it's "the worst thing ever" and people are "appalled" that there's so many things reminding them of the civil war. So you missed the other times its been an issue? Ole Miss changed things up with theor mascot because of yhe symbolism it had with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 24, 2015 So you missed the other times its been an issue? Ole Miss changed things up with theor mascot because of yhe symbolism it had with it. They changed it from an old white guy to a bear named Rebel. Now they will probably have to change the name completely. The fact is no one cared that walmart, eBay, amazon, ect were selling rebel flags until now. People are clutching at things to attack. America has now turned into a country that wants to please everybody who "gets offended" over every little thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 24, 2015 They changed it from an old white guy to a bear named Rebel. Now they will probably have to change the name completely. The fact is no one cared that walmart, eBay, amazon, ect were selling rebel flags until now. People are clutching at things to attack. America has now turned into a country that wants to please everybody who "gets offended" over every little thing. The confederate flag has long been an issue for people...it has come up multiple times over yhe last 15 years or more I typically just make fun of people who want to fly the flag of a vanquished enemy of the United States. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 Anything have to do with Dixie or rebels is now going to be criticized. No one gave a s*** two weeks ago. Now it's "the worst thing ever" and people are "appalled" that there's so many things reminding them of the civil war. As I said earlier, sometimes it takes something like this kid killing a bunch of folks to drag this stuff out into the light. Should we not insist that our government (state, local, and federal) not proudly display symbols associated with racism? It hasn't been two weeks since that association has been made, you know. It's been there for a long time. Nobody said you can't fly it in your yard or have it on your truck or your clothes. Seems like it's not the people who want it taken down who have their panties in a knot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,995 Posted June 24, 2015 F Walmart. There will always be one place you can get your Confederate merchandise: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/06/24/dukes-hazard-actor-who-played-cooter-now-store-owner-defends-confederate-flag/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 24, 2015 As I said earlier, sometimes it takes something like this kid killing a bunch of folks to drag this stuff out into the light. Should we not insist that our government (state, local, and federal) not proudly display symbols associated with racism? It hasn't been two weeks since that association has been made, you know. It's been there for a long time. Nobody said you can't fly it in your yard or have it on your truck or your clothes. Seems like it's not the people who want it taken down who have their panties in a knot. It's actually not a symbol for racism but I won't get into that right now. I personally don't care if it's removed from the state capital grounds or not. However people are starting to go over the top with it. Changing the names of schools because it was named after Robert E Lee or changing their school song from "Dixie". That is way over the top seeing as how neither of those condone racism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 24, 2015 F Walmart. There will always be one place you can get your Confederate merchandise: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/06/24/dukes-hazard-actor-who-played-cooter-now-store-owner-defends-confederate-flag/ Yes...cause when i want an opinion in anything, i go straight to Cooter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 It's actually not a symbol for racism but I won't get into that right now. I personally don't care if it's removed from the state capital grounds or not. However people are starting to go over the top with it. Changing the names of schools because it was named after Robert E Lee or changing their school song from "Dixie". That is way over the top seeing as how neither of those condone racism Maybe not, but just as the swastika is not a symbol for genocide, it is still associated with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted June 24, 2015 Anything have to do with Dixie or rebels is now going to be criticized. No one gave a s*** two weeks ago. Now it's "the worst thing ever" and people are "appalled" that there's so many things reminding them of the civil war. nothing better than watching a good focking pc train wreck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,995 Posted June 24, 2015 Yes...cause when i want an opinion in anything, i go straight to Cooter. You should try forming your own sometime. it's quite liberating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 24, 2015 Maybe not, but just as the swastika is not a symbol for genocide, it is still associated with it. Comparing the swastika and the rebel flag is like comparing apples and oranges. Two totally different things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 Comparing the swastika and the rebel flag is like comparing apples and oranges. Two totally different things No, they're not. They are both symbols that lots of people associate with bad things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 Yes...cause when i want an opinion in anything, i go straight to Cooter. What does the Duck Dynasty guy think of this whole thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 24, 2015 You should try forming your own sometime. it's quite liberating. You should try having a real point sometime rather than making crap up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 24, 2015 No, they're not. They are both symbols that lots of people associate with bad things. Lol yes they are completely different. The fact that you think they are the same shows you don't know the history behind them. As for the flag, many of you don't resize some state flags are modeled after the confederate flag. Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi are prime examples of that. But since they don't look like the battle flag no one really cares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,807 Posted June 24, 2015 Lol yes they are completely different. The fact that you think they are the same shows you don't know the history behind them. As for the flag, many of you don't resize some state flags are modeled after the confederate flag. Alabama and Georgia are prime examples of that. But since they don't look like the battle flag no one really cares. Also Florida and Mississippi... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted June 24, 2015 Lol yes they are completely different. The fact that you think they are the same shows you don't know the history behind them. As for the flag, many of you don't resize some state flags are modeled after the confederate flag. Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi are prime examples of that. But since they don't look like the battle flag no one really cares. mississippi is considering changing it's flag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,995 Posted June 24, 2015 You should try having a real point sometime rather than making crap up. ROFLMAO. Making a joke about Walmart and saying that his store will continue to carry Confederate merchandise is making up? Lighten up Francis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 24, 2015 ROFLMAO. Making a joke about Walmart and saying that his store will continue to carry Confederate merchandise is making ###### up? Lighten up Francis. I wasnt referring to that...but if you claim I dont form and post my own opinions, you are making stuff up. And i posted a joke about Cooter that got you all bent out of shape...so id say its you who need to lighten up chief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted June 24, 2015 warner bros. revokes licensing of toy car/model for dukes of hazzard's general lee products hahahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,995 Posted June 24, 2015 I wasnt referring to that...but if you claim I dont form and post my own opinions, you are making stuff up. And i posted a joke about Cooter that got you all bent out of shape...so id say its you who need to lighten up chief. Again, ROFLMAO. What makes you think I got bent out of shape? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 Lol yes they are completely different. The fact that you think they are the same shows you don't know the history behind them. As for the flag, many of you don't resize some state flags are modeled after the confederate flag. Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi are prime examples of that. But since they don't look like the battle flag no one really cares. Enlighten me about the difference in symbols that people associate with horrible things, and bear in mind that we've already discussed here that the swastika is a symbol for good things in many religions and cultures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted June 24, 2015 mississippi is considering changing it's flag Maybe to one that's not meant to commemorate the time they, and all the dumasses around them, decided to do something really stupid and ended up getting their sh!t stomped flatter than a Phurboy EEG? Crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted June 24, 2015 Maybe to one that's not meant to commemorate the time they, and all the dumasses around them, decided to do something really stupid and ended up getting their sh!t stomped flatter than a Phurboy EEG? Crazy. ahhhhh, nothing like the good ole days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted June 24, 2015 Comparing the swastika and the rebel flag is like comparing apples and oranges. Two totally different thingsNot true. Very similar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 And a symbol of racism, oppression, and, some would say, genocide. [/quote When did the confederates attempt genocide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 And a symbol of racism, oppression, and, some would say, genocide. [/quote When did the confederates attempt genocide? Slavery is considered to be attempted genocide by some. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 Slavery is considered to be attempted genocide by some. By definition, there is no way slavery was genocide, why would you kill off your property that helped you make a living? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted June 24, 2015 By definition, there is no way slavery was genocide, why would you kill off your property that helped you make a living? you answered your own question kill em if they ain't working right and buy a new batch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 24, 2015 Enlighten me about the difference in symbols that people associate with horrible things, and bear in mind that we've already discussed here that the swastika is a symbol for good things in many religions and cultures. Swastika was used as a symbol for nazi party who main goal was the death of jews and with taking over the world. The confederate flag, specifically the one you know not all the others there are, was used as southerners battle flag in a war that a multiple issues, the largest stemming from taxes and tariffs implemented on them from the north. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,414 Posted June 24, 2015 Swastika was used as a symbol for nazi party who main goal was the death of jews and with taking over the world. The confederate flag, specifically the one you know not all the others there are, was used as southerners battle flag in a war that a multiple issues, the largest stemming from taxes and tariffs implemented on them from the north. Ahh yes, I remember that, The War of Revisionist History. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 24, 2015 Ahh yes, I remember that, The War of Revisionist History. Slavery was involved but it was not the main reason. A little peak in the history books would do you guys some good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted June 24, 2015 It's actually not a symbol for racism but I won't get into that right now. I personally don't care if it's removed from the state capital grounds or not. However people are starting to go over the top with it. Changing the names of schools because it was named after Robert E Lee or changing their school song from "Dixie". That is way over the top seeing as how neither of those condone racism Sure they do. Why do we celebrate symbols of southern revolt and oppression? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted June 24, 2015 Slavery was involved but it was not the main reason. A little peak in the history books would do you guys some good wrong, states rights was the main reason for the war and the biggest issue for states rights was slavery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
