Now that the transcripts have been released for deflategate.....

[NewbieJr 541]

 

Newbie quotes:

"When you get rid of a cellphone, that's proof of guilt, even if nobody was ever going to ask to see your cellphone"

"Accepting punishment proves you are guilty, just as not accepting punishment proves you are guilty"

"I focking hate cheaters. But I love Chip Kelly because he cheated previously instead of now, and I respect the hell out of Andy Pettite for cheating and admitting it."

Not one of them is an actual quote of mine. NIce try, Ma'am

[NewbieJr 541]

Three oh my gods. And a ROFL! Hard to argue with that

Just trying to properly relay my shock

[DankNuggs 305]

He made the decision in May I believe? Long after the Super Bowl glow had subsided. My theory is that he took the hit for Belichecks sake, not Brady's. As part of the spygate settlement if BB gets caught again he's banned. My theory is that Goodell told him they are not looking at BB right now, so let's keep it that way. Don't you find it weird that BB, noted hands on freak, hasn't been dragged into this? I don't think Kraft counted on Brady fighting it all the way through, that he thought TB would take a slap on the wrist and get on with it.

It doesn't make any sense for it to have gone down this way. Maybe in the long list of reasons Brady didn't give up his phone includes texts with belicheck he wouldn't want out there... but had there been an inkling of any connection to belicheck he is right in the middle of it.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

It doesn't make any sense for it to have gone down this way. Maybe in the long list of reasons Brady didn't give up his phone includes texts with belicheck he wouldn't want out there... but had there been an inkling of any connection to belicheck he is right in the middle of it.

Maybe that's why the NFL didn't go through the texts themselves and wanted Brady to provide them. If they start looking, they start seeing. Better to just look at what Brady produces, but TB wasnt down with it.

[cbfalcon 825]

Not one of them is an actual quote of mine. NIce try, Ma'am

 

I say they are your exact quotes.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

I say they are your exact quotes.

Good stuff. You're a real master of debate.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Just like Brady will have his Patriots jersey retired.

Of course he will.

[cbfalcon 825]

Good stuff. You're a real master of debate.

 

Well, you know......You say things that are blatantly false at worst, and make no sense at best..... Goodell blatantly lies about Brady's testimony. The league lies about facts....... It's just easier, as the dumb people will believe anything.

 

That said, at least I'm paraphrasing your quotes accurately. Those opinions quoted are factually yours, unless you've been lying in your posts. It's hilarious.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

Well, you know......You say things that are blatantly false at worst, and make no sense at best..... Goodell blatantly lies about Brady's testimony. The league lies about facts....... It's just easier, as the dumb people will believe anything.

 

That said, at least I'm paraphrasing your quotes accurately. Those opinions quoted are factually yours, unless you've been lying in your posts. It's hilarious.

I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat the exact same thing until it might finally penetrate through that rock skull of yours. I am not a fan of Goodell and I don't think the investigation was handled well. In fact, it might even allow Brady to play in week one. I'd say definitely in week 3. I also think the appeal process should change, although the players were dumb enough to agree to it, so I don't know if that's possible. I DO think that Goodell is sick and tired of the Kraft, Belichick, Brady regime and how they think they can do anything they want and it is probably making him a bit blood hungry in this entire process.

 

Anything there that you disagree with?

[cbfalcon 825]

I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat the exact same thing until it might finally penetrate through that rock skull of yours. I am not a fan of Goodell and I don't think the investigation was handled well. In fact, it might even allow Brady to play in week one. I'd say definitely in week 3. I also think the appeal process should change, although the players were dumb enough to agree to it, so I don't know if that's possible. I DO think that Goodell is sick and tired of the Kraft, Belichick, Brady regime and how they think they can do anything they want and it is probably making him a bit blood hungry in this entire process.

 

Anything there that you disagree with?

 

The issue isn't any of that.

 

It's that you can say all that, yet still feel the suspension should stand (or at least want it to stand). Essentially you are taking he Vic Mackey route. If you can't find any real evidence, you aren't content to let it go until next time. And since you know you are infallible, you don't need the evidence that the rest of society requires, because you don't ever make mistakes. And with that confidence, you are at peace with lying, cheating, and maybe planting evidence to get the guy.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

The issue isn't any of that.

 

It's that you can say all that, yet still feel the suspension should stand (or at least want it to stand). Essentially you are taking he Vic Mackey route. If you can't find any real evidence, you aren't content to let it go until next time. And since you know you are infallible, you don't need the evidence that the rest of society requires, because you don't ever make mistakes. And with that confidence, you are at peace with lying, cheating, and maybe planting evidence to get the guy.

oh ok. Well two posts ago, those were the issues. I guess that changed.

I'm at peace with Brady get suspended for the simple reason that he instructed his budfy, The Deflator (lol), to help him cheat. Then he got caught, lied, refused to cooperate, and destroyed evidence. Argue all you want about the procedures on the other side. Hopefully, they'll get penalized in some way for their own digressions.

Im sorry that it ruffles your feathers that I'm so sure they cheated. And that the ball boys didn't come up with this without orders from the QB. I'd bet my life on it. The Deflator had a job to do. And did it. God knows for how many games. How many seasons. I don't think you pick up that nickname in one game.

Now you should come back with some more dancing like you've been doing for weeks while I destroy you like a tom brady cell phone. Hurry back precious.

[Djgb13 2,339]

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1836595-tony-romo-tried-to-kick-the-ball-forward-because-hes-super-sneaky

 

Gonna leave this here...haven't heard anyone calling him a cheater even though he was caught on camera

[Sho Nuff 720]

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1836595-tony-romo-tried-to-kick-the-ball-forward-because-hes-super-sneaky

 

Gonna leave this here...

[Djgb13 2,339]

Don't see anyone crying except the people complaining about Brady. I find it funny the amount of hate he gets from fans of other teams and the fact that it's all they can talk about despite not being patriot fans lol

[Sho Nuff 720]

Don't see anyone crying except the people complaining about Brady. I find it funny the amount of hate he gets from fans of other teams and the fact that it's all they can talk about despite not being patriot fans lol

 

I don't hate the guy at all.

Just find him very dishonest in this whole thing based on his actions (and his agents).

 

But you keep on with that narrative that its all hate and jealousy.

 

And why else bring romo up if not to cry "nobody is claiming he is cheating but they all hate Tom".

[Djgb13 2,339]

Mainly because they labeled Brady a cheater but haven't done the same for other people which I find very biased

[cbfalcon 825]

oh ok. Well two posts ago, those were the issues. I guess that changed.

I'm at peace with Brady get suspended for the simple reason that he instructed his budfy, The Deflator (lol), to help him cheat. Then he got caught, lied, refused to cooperate, and destroyed evidence. Argue all you want about the procedures on the other side. Hopefully, they'll get penalized in some way for their own digressions.

Im sorry that it ruffles your feathers that I'm so sure they cheated. And that the ball boys didn't come up with this without orders from the QB. I'd bet my life on it. The Deflator had a job to do. And did it. God knows for how many games. How many seasons. I don't think you pick up that nickname in one game.

Now you should come back with some more dancing like you've been doing for weeks while I destroy you like a tom brady cell phone. Hurry back precious.

"I'd bet my life on it"..Well, if someone somehow wasn't sure how foolish you are, you have erased all doubt. But in doing so, you deruffled my feathers. So hey, you've got that going for ya.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

The haters have really dwindled. Just a couple whining girls left at this point, too dumb to know the party has passed them by

[Sho Nuff 720]

The haters have really dwindled. Just a couple whining girls left at this point, too dumb to know the party has passed them by

What "haters"?

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

I think the Pats did it. That being said, I hope Brady beats Goodell. Goodell is the more infuriating character In this obvious charade. I firmly believe that what we don't know about this case is much worse than what we do know. I think there's more here than the deflated footballs. Besides, I hate Goodell and his stupid fockin bro hugs at the draft.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

What "haters"?

^^^ for starters

[Sho Nuff 720]

^^^ for starters

That is pretty funny...shows how clueless you are.

 

I have no hate for the guy.

 

Try again.

[NewbieJr 541]

The haters have really dwindled. Just a couple whining girls left at this point, too dumb to know the party has passed them by

I must have missed the article saying that the Pats got their two draft picks back. Link?

[cbfalcon 825]

I must have missed the article saying that the Pats got their two draft picks back. Link?

Poor poor Newbie.

[NewbieJr 541]

Poor poor Newbie.

lol. Perhaps you could help out Worms and show us the link. Go!

[RLLD 4,230]

 

I don't hate the guy at all.

Just find him very dishonest in this whole thing based on his actions (and his agents).

 

But you keep on with that narrative that its all hate and jealousy.

 

And why else bring romo up if not to cry "nobody is claiming he is cheating but they all hate Tom".

 

Distilling this down to Brady is just dumb anyway, he is a product of the system. The real problem is the organization overall and the cultural norm that cheating is just fine.

[TD Ryan2 316]

lol. Perhaps you could help out Worms and show us the link. Go!

the CBA says Roger Goodell can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants.

 

Guilt and Innocence - Honest or Dishonest - they have nothing to do with Roger Goodell's rulings. The NFL has acknowledged this in court.

[TD Ryan2 316]

 

Distilling this down to Brady is just dumb anyway,

that must be awful watching a dumb QB bounce your tough-guy Ravens from the playoffs every year... especially since he out-smarted them at the line-of-scrimmage last time.

[NewbieJr 541]

that must be awful watching a dumb QB bounce your tough-guy Ravens from the playoffs every year... especially since he out-smarted them at the line-of-scrimmage last time.

LOL I love how sad and pathetic Patriot fans have become over this. Their defense against every teams' fans are that they are awesome and everyone else is jealous. Bwahahahaha Your scummy team keeps you guys in defense mode every day of your lives. Funny, I don't hear anyone else talking about your great 'dynasty'. Only you guys. Everyone else just thinks your team is shady and corrupt.

 

 

Pssssst, no one is jealous. They are laughing at how stupid you all sound thinking that the ball boy's nickname was The Deflator because he lost weight.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

that must be awful watching a dumb QB bounce your tough-guy Ravens from the playoffs every year... especially since he out-smarted them at the line-of-scrimmage last time.

I thought Eli was the dumb one? 18 and doh!

[TD Ryan2 316]

Their defense against every teams' fans are that they are awesome and everyone else is jealous.

 

I truly believe that NE is a smarter football team than most every other team.

I truly believe that NE is better prepared during pressure situations.

I truly believe that teams like BAL and PHI who have lost big games to NE are frustrated by this.

 

and based on the pattern of logic you've shown in this thread, I don't expect you to see how obvious any of this is.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

I truly believe that NE is a smarter football team than most every other team.

I truly believe that NE is better prepared during pressure situations.

I truly believe that teams like BAL and PHI who have lost big games to NE are frustrated by this.

 

and based on the pattern of logic you've shown in this thread, I don't expect you to see how obvious any of this is.

We lost one big game to you. I'd hardly consider you a rival. lol Although in your polluted mind, you think the Pats are every teams' bitter rival. Must be that one ring in the last ten years. Bwahahaha

[Herbivore 1,134]

LOL I love how sad and pathetic Patriot fans have become over this. Their defense against every teams' fans are that they are awesome and everyone else is jealous. Bwahahahaha Your scummy team keeps you guys in defense mode every day of your lives. Funny, I don't hear anyone else talking about your great 'dynasty'. Only you guys. Everyone else just thinks your team is shady and corrupt.

 

 

Pssssst, no one is jealous. They are laughing at how stupid you all sound thinking that the ball boy's nickname was The Deflator because he lost weight.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25064858/where-patriots-dynasty-ranks-among-nfls-most-dominant-franchises

 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/patriots-nfl-dynasty-greatest-of-all-time/

 

Keep tryin Newbie.

 

We lost one big game to you. I'd hardly consider you a rival. lol Although in your polluted mind, you think the Pats are every teams' bitter rival. Must be that one ring in the last ten years. Bwahahaha

 

Do you have any idea how dumb this sounds?

[NewbieJr 541]

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25064858/where-patriots-dynasty-ranks-among-nfls-most-dominant-franchises

 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/patriots-nfl-dynasty-greatest-of-all-time/

 

Keep tryin Newbie.

 

 

Do you have any idea how dumb this sounds?

Am I mistaken? They've won more than one in the last ten years? My bad.

 

Hell, I didn't even mention that it was a gift from Pete Carroll.

[Djgb13 2,339]

Am I mistaken? They've won more than one in the last ten years? My bad.

 

Hell, I didn't even mention that it was a gift from Pete Carroll.

I feel sure you're trolling at this point

[NewbieJr 541]

I feel sure you're trolling at this point

No I'm not. TDRyan was trolling. I'm counter trolling.

[Djgb13 2,339]

No I'm not. TDRyan was trolling. I'm counter trolling.

I think we have different definitions of trolling. To me it's the excessive use of emojis and not listening to anything besides your own point of view while repeating the same lines over.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

I feel sure you're trolling at this point

He's not trolling. He really is this much of a dumb a-hole.

[Herbivore 1,134]

Am I mistaken? They've won more than one in the last ten years? My bad.

 

Hell, I didn't even mention that it was a gift from Pete Carroll.

 

To be doubling down on stupid over and over...knock yourself out.

[RLLD 4,230]

that must be awful watching a dumb QB bounce your tough-guy Ravens from the playoffs every year... especially since he out-smarted them at the line-of-scrimmage last time.

 

I do not follow. I did not call Brady dumb, where did you get such a notion? Further, the Ravens and Patriots seem to be rather evenly matched over the years, each having a role in bouncing the other here and there. I would have to agree that the Patriots manipulation of a gap in the rules, subsequently fixed due it this misuse, was not something the Raven's would have likely been prepared for, not many teams are good at anticipating the misuse of rules in that way.