TRUMP NOW OUT-POLLING JEB 8-1 IN IOWA

[MDC 7,949]

Call me crazy, but I am going to go ahead and suggest the party that's spent 7+ years implying that Obummer is a foreign-born closet Muslim terrorist sympathizer who hates America is actually not interested in cross-party collaboration!

 

Far as Trump goes, I am actually starting to think he could win the GOP ticket. Not that he's in any way qualified to be President, but Trump is a giant "FU" to the establishment and he's basically criticism proof. Taking shots at Trump just draws the spotlight to him and that's exactly his game. And frankly the field of candidates on the GOP side is so weak and Jeb seems like such a wimp that I really can't see anybody beating Trump at his own game.

 

I do think many of the liberal / moderate leaning types voting for him in polls are just trolling the Republican party though.

[NewbieJr 541]

Call me crazy, but I am going to go ahead and suggest the party that's spent 7+ years implying that Obummer is a foreign-born closet Muslim terrorist sympathizer who hates America is actually not interested in cross-party collaboration!

 

Far as Trump goes, I am actually starting to think he could win the GOP ticket. Not that he's in any way qualified to be President, but Trump is a giant "FU" to the establishment and he's basically criticism proof. Taking shots at Trump just draws the spotlight to him and that's exactly his game. And frankly the field of candidates on the GOP side is so weak and Jeb seems like such a wimp that I really can't see anybody beating Trump at his own game.

 

I do think many of the liberal / moderate leaning types voting for him in polls are just trolling the Republican party though.

Sadly, I think you're right about Trump winning the GOP side. In a year where the Republicans had a real good chance to get the Presidency back. I don't see anything promising on the left. And they're putting up Don Rickles. Unbelievable.

[MDC 7,949]

Sadly, I think you're right about Trump winning the GOP side. In a year where the Republicans had a real good chance to get the Presidency back. I don't see anything promising on the left. And they're putting up Don Rickles. Unbelievable.

I liked Rubio a little.

 

I was really pretty shocked at how weak and pitiful Jeb's showing was at the debate. And Ted Cruz. I never realized what a wormy little slimeball he is.

[edjr 6,923]

If Bush got a 2nd term and Obama even got elected in the 1st place, need you ask how dumb voters are?

[NewbieJr 541]

I liked Rubio a little.

 

I was really pretty shocked at how weak and pitiful Jeb's showing was at the debate. And Ted Cruz. I never realized what a wormy little slimeball he is.

Cruz is horrible. Probably the worst of the bunch. Rubio still has antiquated views on abortion and gay marriage. He's way too right on social issues. Plus, he wants to increase the age at which people can collect social security. Without offering an increase in the cap at which it is taken out of your check. It's all about concessions on both sides.

I like Kasich because I believe he will keep things moving forward and try to improve the healthcare act.

 

I would take any of them over Trump. Who knows absolutely nothing about politics or how things work, internationally or domestic. And has the tact of a six year old. It would be such an embarrassment, globally.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

If Bush got a 2nd term and Obama even got elected in the 1st place, need you ask how dumb voters are?

Now that's the real deal right there. I will be using that this weekend.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,645]

FACT: Congressional Republicans' primary goal from day one was to make Obama a one term president. Mitch McConnell even said exactly that.

 

So yeah, he told 'em to fock off. They were never interested in working together. Obama should have done it sooner but it took him a couple years to accept the reality of it.

 

And, BTW, the Congressional Republicans failed in that goal. Miserably

 

Fact: Obama campaigned on working with congress and reaching across and bring Washington together. Maybe he should of been the grown up in the room? And that whole "My administration is going to be the most transparent in history" bullshat was right up there.

[RLLD 4,275]

This entire situation feels like a will Ferrell movie

[edjr 6,923]

Now that's the real deal right there. I will be using that this weekend.

 

Are you going to some kind of rally?

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

 

Fact: Obama campaigned on working with congress and reaching across and bring Washington together. Maybe he should of been the grown up in the room? And that whole "My administration is going to be the most transparent in history" bullshat was right up there.

Fact: FDR campaigned on keeping us out of the war in Europe. Things changed.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,645]

Fact: FDR campaigned on keeping us out of the war in Europe. Things changed.

 

Obama campaigned hard on closing Gitmo. What's changed?

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

 

Obama campaigned hard on closing Gitmo. What's changed?

Congress has to act first on closing it. Talk to McConnell.

[NewbieJr 541]

No new taxes!!!

[IGotWorms 4,063]

 

Obama campaigned hard on closing Gitmo. What's changed?

Now there's an actual failing on his part. Good job

 

Tell me, are you actually worried about that? Does it bother you that potential terrorists are holed up in Gitmo with no due process? It bothers me but I find my right wing friends usually aren't kept awake by whether potential terrorists are receiving rights

 

Similarly I'm not a fan of the drone strikes or Obama's decision to continue the NSA spying program. But some righties like Rand Paul were legitimately concerned about the NSA spying program, I'll give you that

[BunnysBastatrds 2,645]

Now there's an actual failing on his part. Good job

 

Tell me, are you actually worried about that? Does it bother you that potential terrorists are holed up in Gitmo with no due process? It bothers me but I find my right wing friends usually aren't kept awake by whether potential terrorists are receiving rights

 

Similarly I'm not a fan of the drone strikes or Obama's decision to continue the NSA spying program. But some righties like Rand Paul were legitimately concerned about the NSA spying program, I'll give you that

 

No. I'm not for locking them up without giving them some sort of trial. We can't let them go either. I understand the need for Gitmo.

[edjr 6,923]

When Trump becomes president can he make everyone get the same haircut as him? Like kim jung un?

 

North Korea mandates Kim Jong-un haircut for all men:

 

North Korea has issued guidelines requiring all men to wear their hair just like their supreme leader, Kim Jong-un, a South Korean news outlet has reported.

The state-ordered “fashion guidelines” were introduced in the capital Pyongyang about two weeks ago and are now being rolled out across the country, the Korea Times reported.

“Our leader’s haircut is very particular, if you will,” one source told Radio Free Asia, BBC reported. “It doesn’t always go with everyone since everyone has different face and head shapes.”

A North Korean now living in China told the station that the look is unpopular where he lives because it resembles that of Chinese smugglers.

“Until the mid-2000s, we called it the ‘Chinese smuggler haircut,’” the source said.

 

 

 

 

A real true DICKtater, right there.

[mobb_deep 920]

When Trump becomes president can he make everyone get the same haircut as him? Like kim jung un?

 

North Korea mandates Kim Jong-un haircut for all men:

 

 

A real true DICKtater, right there.

 

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[KSB2424 3,174]

Don't under estimate the power of fame and dummies. You really don't think Kayne wouldnt garner 25-50% of the black (poll numbers) and a huge chunk of the popular 18-24 year olds? Plus people just "sick of the old status quo"? Mr. West would kill a Martin O'Mally in the polls. He'd be going neck and neck with Bernie right now. I'm telling you. 90% of the general public doesn't keep up with stuff like you do. They get their news from Facebook.

 

The end is near. It's coming.

 

I type this post yesterday morning and then last night this op-ed pops up on Politico. I really think somebody follows my posts on this board. I know Matthew Berry does on the Mange bored.

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/2016-election-social-media-ruining-politics-213104

 

How Social Media is ruining Politics

 

Our political discourse is shrinking to fit our smartphone screens. The latest evidence came on Monday night, when Barack Obama turned himself into the country’s Instagrammer-in-Chief. While en route to Alaska to promote his climate agenda, the president took a photograph of a mountain range from a window on Air Force One and posted the shot on the popular picture-sharing network. “Hey everyone, it's Barack,” the caption read. “I'll be spending the next few days touring this beautiful state and meeting with Alaskans about what’s going on in their lives. Looking forward to sharing it with you.” The photo quickly racked up thousands of likes.

Ever since the so-called Facebook election of 2008, Obama has been a pacesetter in using social media to connect with the public. But he has nothing on this year’s field of candidates. Ted Cruz live-streams his appearances on Periscope. Marco Rubio broadcasts “Snapchat Stories” at stops along the trail. Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush spar over student debt on Twitter. Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham produce goofy YouTube videos. Even grumpy old Bernie Sanders has attracted nearly two million likers on Facebook, leading the New York Times to dub him “a king of social media.”

Trump’s glow may fade—online celebrity has a fast-burning wick—but his ability to control the agenda this summer says a lot about the changing dynamics of political races. If traditional print and broadcast media required candidates to be nouns—stable, coherent figures—social media pushes them to be verbs, engines of activity. Authority and respect don’t accumulate on social media; they have to be earned anew at each moment. You’re only as relevant as your last tweet.

And then there’s Donald Trump. If Sanders is a king, Trump is a god. A natural-born troll, adept at issuing inflammatory bulletins at opportune moments, he’s the first candidate optimized for the Google News algorithm. In a typical tweet, sent out first thing Monday morning, he described Clinton aide Huma Abedin as “a major security risk” and “the wife of perv sleazebag Anthony Wiener.” Exuberantly impolitic, such messages attract Trump a vast web audience—four million followers on Twitter alone—while giving reporters and pundits fresh bait to feed on. What Trump understands is that the best way to dominate the online discussion is not to inform but to provoke.

The more established among this year’s candidates have been slow to learn this lesson. That’s particularly true of Clinton and Bush, the erstwhile shoo-ins. Their Twitter tiff was an exception to their generally anodyne presence on social media. They’ve played it safe, burnishing their images as reliable public servants while trying to avoid any misstep that might blow up into a TV controversy. Bush’s various social-media feeds come off as afterthoughts. They promote his appearances, offer kudos to his endorsers and provide links to his merchandise store. What they don’t do—at least until he launched a Twitter attack on Trump yesterday—is make news. Clinton’s postings have been equally bland. Her Facebook feed is a mirror image of her Twitter feed, and both aim to give followers a warm-and-fuzzy feeling about the candidate.

Clinton’s predicament is a particularly painful one. She’s spent years filing the burrs off her personality, only to find that rough edges are in. Back in June, her campaign issued an Official Hillary 2016 Playlist on Spotify. It was packed with upbeat, on-message tunes (“Brave,” “Fighters,” “Stronger,” “Believer”), but it sounded like an anachronism in a campaign that’s more punk than pop.

Twice before in the last hundred years a new medium has transformed elections. In the 1920s, radio disembodied candidates, reducing them to voices. It also made national campaigns far more intimate. Politicians, used to bellowing at fairgrounds and train depots, found themselves talking to families in their homes. The blustery rhetoric that stirred big, partisan crowds came off as shrill and off-putting when piped into a living room or a kitchen. Gathered around their wireless sets, the public wanted an avuncular statesman, not a firebrand. With Franklin Roosevelt, master of the soothing fireside chat, the new medium found its ideal messenger.

In the 1960s, television gave candidates their bodies back, at least in two dimensions. With its jumpy cuts and pitiless close-ups, TV placed a stress on sound bites, good teeth and an easy manner. Image became everything, as the line between politician and celebrity blurred. John Kennedy was the first successful candidate of the TV era, but it was Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton who perfected the form. Born actors, they could project a down-home demeanor while also seeming bigger than life.

Today, with the public looking to smartphones for news and entertainment, we seem to be at the start of the third big technological makeover of modern electioneering. The presidential campaign is becoming just another social-media stream, its swift and shallow current intertwining with all the other streams that flow through people’s devices. This shift is changing the way politicians communicate with voters, altering the tone and content of political speech. But it’s doing more than that. It’s changing what the country wants and expects from its would-be leaders.

What’s important now is not so much image as personality. But, as the Trump phenomenon reveals, it’s only a particular kind of personality that works—one that’s big enough to grab the attention of the perpetually distracted but small enough to fit neatly into a thousand tiny media containers. It might best be described as a Snapchat personality. It bursts into focus at regular intervals without ever demanding steady concentration.

Social media favors the bitty over the meaty, the cutting over the considered. It also prizes emotionalism over reason. The more visceral the message, the more quickly it circulates and the longer it holds the darting public eye. In something of a return to the pre-radio days, the fiery populist now seems more desirable, more worthy of attention, than the cool wonk. It’s the crusty Bernie and the caustic Donald that get hearted and hash-tagged, friended and followed. Is it any wonder that “Feel the Bern” has become the rallying cry of the Sanders campaign?

 

 

In 2024 don't be surprised if a Kardashian isn't running for President and polling well. May God have mercy on our souls.

[Voltaire 5,500]

Ah sh*t. Trump did what he was told and signed the 'Loyalty Pledge.'

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Ah sh*t. Trump did what he was told and signed the 'Loyalty Pledge.'

Sell out

[gocolts 300]

 

I type this post yesterday morning and then last night this op-ed pops up on Politico. I really think somebody follows my posts on this board. I know Matthew Berry does on the Mange bored.

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/2016-election-social-media-ruining-politics-213104

 

 

In 2024 don't be surprised if a Kardashian isn't running for President and polling well. May God have mercy on our souls.

 

That is because you are an establishment guy who just regurgitates what the pundits on TV say. Heard all of that nonsense before. You are still completely lost as to why the outsiders are rising through the ranks, just like the establishment guys. Folks are sick of being lied to, you seem to relish it. HTH

[RLLD 4,275]

Ah sh*t. Trump did what he was told and signed the 'Loyalty Pledge.'

 

Doing so helps negate the Bush tactic that Trump isn't really a Republican. It might not be the best strategy, but Trump clearly believes he can crush anything else in the Republican party, and he may very well be right.

[Fenster 6]

Trump totally milked that for everything it was worth. Dude is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

[cbfalcon 827]

 

Doing so helps negate the Bush tactic that Trump isn't really a Republican. It might not be the best strategy, but Trump clearly believes he can crush anything else in the Republican party, and he may very well be right.

Another article I read made a good point. One can view this as Trump agreeing to support the eventual candidate... But Trump can view this as all the other candidates pledging to support Trump.

[KSB2424 3,174]

So Donald Trump, who's donated to the Clintons and was a Democrat before he decided being a Republican suited him better and career politician Ted Cruz is somehow your bastion of truth?

 

Dear God man.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

So Donald Trump, who's donated to the Clintons and was a Democrat before he decided being a Republican suited him better and career politician Ted Cruz is somehow your bastion of truth?

 

Dear God man.

Reagan was a Democrat once. You didn't know that?

[KSB2424 3,174]

Reagan was a Democrat once. You didn't know that?

Are you comparing Reagan to Trump?

 

How many years before Reagan was President did he register as a Democrat?

 

I'll save you the trouble. It was almost 20 years. A generation.

 

Apples and oranges.

[gocolts 300]

So Donald Trump, who's donated to the Clintons and was a Democrat before he decided being a Republican suited him better and career politician Ted Cruz is somehow your bastion of truth?

 

Dear God man.

Is that a bad thing to you suddenly??? All I see you post is how we need a moderate, yet you b1tch and moan about Trump nonstop. You are starting to sound like a hypocrite.

 

Not sure how many times I have to say this before it sinks in, but I will give it one more shot.

 

Trump is NOT my guy. HTH

 

Also, Cruz is my guy because he does not bow down to the establishment and has more integrity than the rest of the field combined. He is a strong conservative who stands by his principles and does not abandon his principles once elected like most of the guys you seem to want. I do not agree with him 100% of the time either, but he would easily win the POTUS if he gets the nomination.

 

Last time we actually nominated a true conservative, he won two MASSIVE landslides. Not Obama landslides , I am talking 49 out of 50 states landslide. HTH

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Is that a bad thing to you suddenly??? All I see you post is how we need a moderate, yet you b1tch and moan about Trump nonstop. You are starting to sound like a hypocrite.

 

Not sure how many times I have to say this before it sinks in, but I will give it one more shot.

 

Trump is NOT my guy. HTH

 

Also, Cruz is my guy because he does not bow down to the establishment and has more integrity than the rest of the field combined. He is a strong conservative who stands by his principles and does not abandon his principles once elected like most of the guys you seem to want. I do not agree with him 100% of the time either, but he would easily win the POTUS if he gets the nomination.

 

Last time we actually nominated a true conservative, he won two MASSIVE landslides. Not Obama landslides , I am talking 49 out of 50 states landslide. HTH

Who was that?

 

It seems like you're talking about Reagan but you would consider him a commie pinko flaming libtard if he were around today

[KSB2424 3,174]

Who was that?

 

It seems like you're talking about Reagan but you would consider him a commie pinko flaming libtard if he were around today

Bingo. I agree with Worms.

[gocolts 300]

Who was that?

 

It seems like you're talking about Reagan but you would consider him a commie pinko flaming libtard if he were around today

Of course I was referring to Reagan. I would not consider him anything even close to what you are suggesting because I actually know some history and why he did some of the stuff he did. Why did you skip the part where I said I would not agree with anyone 100% of the time???

[gocolts 300]

Bingo. I agree with Worms.

I know you do. You are STILL buying this claptrap of thinking some moderate will win, even though it has been proven in the last two elections they can not win. You want the same guy the liberals want and it is disturbing.

 

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Are you comparing Reagan to Trump?

 

How many years before Reagan was President did he register as a Democrat?

 

I'll save you the trouble. It was almost 20 years. A generation.

 

Apples and oranges.

I'm not comparing Trump/Reagan. I'm pointing out that just because someone changes parties that's not a negative, as you tried to portray. You can't blame Trump for not supporting the Republican Party or being a member of it during the Bush years. It's actually an attribute.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I know you do. You are STILL buying this claptrap of thinking some moderate will win, even though it has been proven in the last two elections they can not win. You want the same guy the liberals want and it is disturbing.

 

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

And anyone who thinks Cruz is somehow great and has any more integrity than any other politician is fooling himself.

[gocolts 300]

 

And anyone who thinks Cruz is somehow great and has any more integrity than any other politician is fooling himself.

He did not and does not back down from his campaign promises like most of the GOP. He does what he says he will do while the rest of the GOP can not wait to buckle and do Obama's bidding.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

He did not and does not back down from his campaign promises like most of the GOP. He does what he says he will do while the rest of the GOP can not wait to buckle and do Obama's bidding.

Please. Name one thing he's had done since becoming a senator. He's an obstructionist, which is the easiest thing to be. Not an original, innovative thought in his head.

[KSB2424 3,174]

I will say this in gocolts defense. You cannot trust all you so called 'Reagan Democrats' or 'Blue Dog Democrats".

 

McCain? A moderate. Yall killed him on his age. Meanwhile Hillary, Bernie and Biden have a combined age of like 400 and, well it's all good.

 

Romney was as focking moderate as they come. He was from Massachusets and implemented healthcare, was moderate on national security. Etc. Yet yall scanned the internet earth to find a sound bite like the 99 percent BS spin to find a reason to hate him. And spun him into some ultra conservative.

 

The truth is...,,FrankM, IGW, MDC and MB are voting for Hillary or Biden or Bernie. Bottom line.

 

So spare us the bullshitt. That BS is what gocolts and others like him are tired of.

[mobb_deep 920]

Is that a bad thing to you suddenly??? All I see you post is how we need a moderate, yet you b1tch and moan about Trump nonstop. You are starting to sound like a hypocrite.

 

Not sure how many times I have to say this before it sinks in, but I will give it one more shot.

 

Trump is NOT my guy. HTH

 

Also, Cruz is my guy because he does not bow down to the establishment and has more integrity than the rest of the field combined. He is a strong conservative who stands by his principles and does not abandon his principles once elected like most of the guys you seem to want. I do not agree with him 100% of the time either, but he would easily win the POTUS if he gets the nomination.

 

Last time we actually nominated a true conservative, he won two MASSIVE landslides. Not Obama landslides , I am talking 49 out of 50 states landslide. HTH

LOFL. The guy being funded by the Koch bros

and Citizens United does not bow down to the establishment. You can't make this stuff up. Comedy gold.

[Voltaire 5,500]

LOFL. The guy being funded by the Koch bros

and Citizens United does not bow down to the establishment. You can't make this stuff up. Comedy gold.

Gary is right. Cruz has been a pain in the ass for GOP Senate leaders since the day he arrived. He doesn't like or respect them for the exact same reasons Gary doesn't. They don't like him at all either. Cruz does his own thing with his own priorities which may or may not align with GOP leadership.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

I will say this in gocolts defense. You cannot trust all you so called 'Reagan Democrats' or 'Blue Dog Democrats".

 

McCain? A moderate. Yall killed him on his age. Meanwhile Hillary, Bernie and Biden have a combined age of like 400 and, well it's all good.

 

Romney was as focking moderate as they come. He was from Massachusets and implemented healthcare, was moderate on national security. Etc. Yet yall scanned the internet earth to find a sound bite like the 99 percent BS spin to find a reason to hate him. And spun him into some ultra conservative.

 

 

 

The truth is...,,FrankM, IGW, MDC and MB are voting for Hillary or Biden or Bernie. Bottom line.

 

 

 

So spare us the bullshitt. That BS is what gocolts and others like him are tired of.

Don't speak for me. I'm not voting for Hillary. If it's Trump vs her I go Trump or I don't vote for president. If it's Biden or Bernie I vote for them.