President of planned parenthood

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Really?

Yes, really. I deal with em often. Some are fine and I bet you're one of the better ones. But some of them have souls so black even us godless (fake) attorneys shudder at the thought

[BunnysBastatrds 2,510]

Circles

[MDC 7,590]

I wish I knew that taxpayers could veto federal $ for things they don't support back when the last admin was lying us into a war that killed tens of thousands of actual people, as opposed to theoretical / potential people.

[hoytdwow 202]

I don't get the outrage ... PP does not use federal money for abortions ... that's already illegal and has been since the 80s.

[Mike Honcho 5,332]

I don't get the outrage ... PP does not use federal money for abortions ... that's already illegal and has been since the 80s.

 

Exactly, most of the "federal" money they get is from medicaid...which can't pay for abortions, but does pay for breast screenings, PAP smears, pregnancy tests. This ISSUE is just another example of the puppet masters getting the idiot mob to froth at the mouth to distract them from real issues facing this country.

[Mike Honcho 5,332]

And makes $520,000 a year.

 

And after having to listen to the stupid questions posed by the GOP this week, she should get a raise.

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I don't get the outrage ...

 

It's almost like it's fake® or something...

[edjr 6,682]

I want a 3some with her and Ann Coulter

[Mike Honcho 5,332]

I want a 3some with her and Ann Coulter

 

Not me, I'd be scared Ann would have a bigger d!ck than me.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

Those hussys out in the sticks need to learn how to work a condom or do facials.

[KSB2424 3,148]

 

It's almost like it's fake® or something...

 

Out of all the fake outrage things out there, folks upset over babies being killed isn't one of them. People are genuinely passionate about it; there is nothing fake about it. You may disagree with it and think a baby <> fetus, but others think and genuinely believe differently.

[KSB2424 3,148]

I don't get the outrage

 

While there is some ignorance on what exactly Planned Parenthood does and where it gets it's money I think the following is perfectly fine to be upset about.

 

• In 2013, abortions made up 94% of Planned Parenthood’s pregnancy services.
• For every adoption referral, Planned Parenthood performed 174 abortions.
• While abortions rose, Planned Parenthood adoption referrals dropped 14% in one year, and prenatal care services dropped 4%.
• Planned Parenthood’s cancer prevention services are down 17% over one year, and contraceptive services dropped by 4%.

• Planned Parenthood reported more than $127 million in excess revenue, and more than $1.4 billion in net assets.
• Planned Parenthood gave over $1 million in donations to PAC's in the 2012 election cycle alone. (99% of which were to Democrat canidates)

The point being is that PP is a non profit organization that supposedly needs Title X Grant funding to operate. How can that be when they report 127 million in excess revenue per year? And then flip that "excess revenue" aka "profit" into political votes via a super PAC?

The other point is that Planned Parenthood seems to be advocating for abortions over adoption. We've seen this in videos but also their own stats show this as well. (see the first couple bullet points).

Accepting medicaid payments is fine. Accepting big donations from private folks is fine. Operating like a not for profit is fine. But there are some things that don't sit well with me. Using these huge dollars and flipping them for votes and (more funding). Not advocating for other forms of pregnancy (adoption) first or even as a real choice.

Not to mention that with the onset of Obamacare, where everyone is covered by insurance, the need going forward for cheap women's health should theoretically go way down as, well, all women have insurance now. So Title X should be antiquated.

All of this are reasons to not END PP itself, but to reduce or end federal grants going to it, when its not even needed.

[Mike Honcho 5,332]

 

While there is some ignorance on what exactly Planned Parenthood does and where it gets it's money I think the following is perfectly fine to be upset about.

 

 

• In 2013, abortions made up 94% of Planned Parenthood’s pregnancy services.
• For every adoption referral, Planned Parenthood performed 174 abortions.
• While abortions rose, Planned Parenthood adoption referrals dropped 14% in one year, and prenatal care services dropped 4%.
• Planned Parenthood’s cancer prevention services are down 17% over one year, and contraceptive services dropped by 4%.

• Planned Parenthood reported more than $127 million in excess revenue, and more than $1.4 billion in net assets.
• Planned Parenthood gave over $1 million in donations to PAC's in the 2012 election cycle alone. (99% of which were to Democrat canidates)

 

The point being is that PP is a non profit organization that supposedly needs Title X Grant funding to operate. How can that be when they report 127 million in excess revenue per year? And then flip that "excess revenue" aka "profit" into political votes via a super PAC?

 

The other point is that Planned Parenthood seems to be advocating for abortions over adoption. We've seen this in videos but also their own stats show this as well. (see the first couple bullet points).

 

Accepting medicaid payments is fine. Accepting big donations from private folks is fine. Operating like a not for profit is fine. But there are some things that don't sit well with me. Using these huge dollars and flipping them for votes and (more funding). Not advocating for other forms of pregnancy (adoption) first or even as a real choice.

 

Not to mention that with the onset of Obamacare, where everyone is covered by insurance, the need going forward for cheap women's health should theoretically go way down as, well, all women have insurance now. So Title X should be antiquated.

 

All of this are reasons to not END PP itself, but to reduce or end federal grants going to it, when its not even needed.

 

would you mind linking us to where you got those stats?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,510]

 

While there is some ignorance on what exactly Planned Parenthood does and where it gets it's money I think the following is perfectly fine to be upset about.

 

 

• In 2013, abortions made up 94% of Planned Parenthood’s pregnancy services.
• For every adoption referral, Planned Parenthood performed 174 abortions.
• While abortions rose, Planned Parenthood adoption referrals dropped 14% in one year, and prenatal care services dropped 4%.
• Planned Parenthood’s cancer prevention services are down 17% over one year, and contraceptive services dropped by 4%.

• Planned Parenthood reported more than $127 million in excess revenue, and more than $1.4 billion in net assets.
• Planned Parenthood gave over $1 million in donations to PAC's in the 2012 election cycle alone. (99% of which were to Democrat canidates)

 

The point being is that PP is a non profit organization that supposedly needs Title X Grant funding to operate. How can that be when they report 127 million in excess revenue per year? And then flip that "excess revenue" aka "profit" into political votes via a super PAC?

 

The other point is that Planned Parenthood seems to be advocating for abortions over adoption. We've seen this in videos but also their own stats show this as well. (see the first couple bullet points).

 

Accepting medicaid payments is fine. Accepting big donations from private folks is fine. Operating like a not for profit is fine. But there are some things that don't sit well with me. Using these huge dollars and flipping them for votes and (more funding). Not advocating for other forms of pregnancy (adoption) first or even as a real choice.

 

Not to mention that with the onset of Obamacare, where everyone is covered by insurance, the need going forward for cheap women's health should theoretically go way down as, well, all women have insurance now. So Title X should be antiquated.

 

All of this are reasons to not END PP itself, but to reduce or end federal grants going to it, when its not even needed.

[KSB2424 3,148]

 

would you mind linking us to where you got those stats?

 

OpenSecrets.org shows PAC monies for everybody.

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000591&cycle=2012

 

Is from this fact sheet, supposedly pulled from PP's own numbers.

 

http://www.sba-list.org/sites/default/files/content/shared/12.31.14fact_sheet_pp_2013_2014_annual_report.pdf

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Out of all the fake outrage things out there, folks upset over babies being killed isn't one of them. People are genuinely passionate about it; there is nothing fake about it. You may disagree with it and think a baby <> fetus, but others think and genuinely believe differently.

 

I'm referring more to the phony outrage over the whole "selling body parts" thing. Most people understand exactly what is occurring, but play stupid (some aren't playing, granted) because it's simply another way to try and attack the practice of abortion.

 

Then again, don't kid yourself, for many people abortion is a talking point just like anything else. These fockers are so "passionate" that these babies be born, but give the mother some food stamps and they lose their focking minds.

 

There is also the fact that many of these organizations and politicians are not just opposed to PP's abortion services, they are also opposed vehemently to their contraceptive services. You know, those things that help PREVENT THE NEED FOR ABORTIONS.

[jerryskids 6,925]

 

I'm referring more to the phony outrage over the whole "selling body parts" thing. Most people understand exactly what is occurring, but play stupid (some aren't playing, granted) because it's simply another way to try and attack the practice of abortion.

 

Then again, don't kid yourself, for many people abortion is a talking point just like anything else. These fockers are so "passionate" that these babies be born, but give the mother some food stamps and they lose their focking minds.

I've already said that selling body parts gives them financial incentive to encourage abortions. Is that part of the "phony outrage"?

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I've already said that selling body parts gives them financial incentive to encourage abortions. Is that part of the "phony outrage"?

 

Since they've made it pretty clear that they are only trying to cover the related costs and the dollar amounts would seem to indicate that is probably true, I'm going to say yes, it absolutely is. Do you really think they're encouraging abortions to make $30? Couldn't they make far more by encouraging NOT abortions?

[Mike Honcho 5,332]

I've already said that selling body parts gives them financial incentive to encourage abortions. Is that part of the "phony outrage"?

 

And I asked what is the financial incentive for a non-profit.

 

Also...Doing the Math on Planned Parenthood’s Alleged Fetal Tissue Profit Scheme

 

Luckily, we do have some numbers, courtesy of the (mostly) unedited videos filmed by the Center for Medical Progress, in which they spoke to doctors who thought they were discussing tissue donations to a biotech firm. The numbers being tossed around seem rather miniscule for an evil criminal organization: $30 to $100 a specimen. That's not profit—that's reimbursement.

 

“In reality, $30-100 probably constitutes a loss for [Planned Parenthood],” Sherilyn J. Sawyer, a biotech expert at Harvard, told FactCheck.org. “Most hospitals will provide tissue blocks from surgical procedures (ones no longer needed for clinical purposes, and without identity) for research, and cost recover for their time and effort in the range of $100-500 per case/block.”

 

Those hospitals probably don't tolerate too much of a loss, so let's be generous and assume the biggest bath they take is $50 per specimen. This math is backed up by five separate state investigations that show Planned Parenthood is making no profits off “selling” fetal body parts.

 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,510]

 

Since they've made it pretty clear that they are only trying to cover the related costs and the dollar amounts would seem to indicate that is probably true, I'm going to say yes, it absolutely is. Do you really think they're encouraging abortions to make $30? Couldn't they make far more by encouraging NOT abortions?

 

 

The president of PP has said herself that 83% of their income comes from abortions. Of course they encourage them.

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The president has said herself that 83% of their income comes from abortions. Of course they encourage them.

 

Right, because I'm sure these greedy bastards would rather make a couple hundred bucks for a one time procedure - not to mention that sweet, sweet $30 organ bonus - rather than making $1000s of dollars in medicaid/medicare/insurance payments over 9 months. Even if we assume they are all evil Snidely Whiplash types, can't we also assume they aren't stupid?

 

Bottom line, most places don't even do abortions, so that is what women go to Planned Parenthood for. I don't think encouraging has a ton to do with it. And I don't think encouraging to make $30 on the organs has fock all to do with it.

 

Also, do you have a quote for that stat?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,510]

 

Right, because I'm sure these greedy bastards would rather make a couple hundred bucks for a one time procedure - not to mention that sweet, sweet $30 organ bonus - rather than making $1000s of dollars in medicaid/medicare/insurance payments over 9 months. Even if we assume they are all evil Snidely Whiplash types, can't we also assume they aren't stupid?

 

Bottom line, most places don't even do abortions, so that is what women go to Planned Parenthood for. I don't think encouraging has a ton to do with it. And I don't think encouraging to make $30 on the organs has fock all to do with it.

 

Also, do you have a quote for that stat?

 

 

It's in that four hour testimony she gave on Capital Hill day before yesterday. The one the MSM reported happened but didn't give any details. They did a great editing job on that one.

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It's in that four hour testimony she gave on Capital Hill day before yesterday. The one the MSM reported happened but didn't give any details. They did a great editing job on that one.

 

So you watched and saw her say it?

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

 

So you watched and saw her say it?

Ha!

[BunnysBastatrds 2,510]

 

So you watched and saw her say it?

 

I was listening to a local talk show. One of the liberal guests who watched it said she gave that number during her testimony and that it surprised even her.

[parrot 789]

 

I was listening to a local talk show. One of the liberal guests who watched it said she gave that number during her testimony and that it surprised even her.

 

I couldn't figure out how that could possibly be right since my understanding was some 40ish % of their money was from government funding with a large portion of that being federal dollars which are not allowed to be used on abortion services.

 

Finally found a link, at Red State,

 

"Richards admitted that a staggering 86% of non-government revenue "

http://www.redstate.com/2015/09/30/cecile-richards-abortion-86-planned-parenthoods-revenue/

 

 

"non-government revenue" - that's a pretty big qualifier.

[Baker Boy 1,704]

What is wrong with delaying abortions until the fetal organs are mature enough to harvest? Why waste a perfectly good human life, they do have something to contribute to society! All of you conservatives and your moral crap make me sick!

[penultimatestraw 473]

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Cute. I guarantee I have more say so in handling insurance claims than you ever have. And have done ten times the better job than you ever would.

I agree that you have much more say than I handling insurance claims.

[penultimatestraw 473]

How do you sleep at night knowing one wrong decision, right or wrong, determines the outcome of your life depending on a decision you, and your staff make, made by those who make them based on training you have through a med school training via attorneys?

I'm not sure what you're trying to communicate. But I sleep fine, thanks.