I just traded Bell.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,269]

I wouldn't take those trades if I were those owners. Gronk is pretty much untradeable. He's just such a huge weekly advantage.

 

Why would anyone give up Gurley and Rodgers? Gurley looks like the second coming of AP.

Its worth a shot. Looking at the other teams i am prob not getting a good rb and good player at another position for Bell. So it seems its either trade him and lose value or keep him because the trades where i gain value are way too much.

 

Rodgers has been human the past few weeks along with Gronk. Graham is coming off a good game too so maybe the owner thinks he is better off with the reliable Bell, who i trust more than Gurley.

[Kent 228]

I am still not sure if you are getting it. I traded with a team that HAD wr to give and needed a RB. NO OTHER TEAM was like that in my league. The trade I made was the best option I had and it made my team significantly better. How can it be the worst trade ever if the trade has seen my team go from an avg score of 130 to one of over 170?

Can we get your detailed scoring rules?

[kilroy69 1,251]

Can we get your detailed scoring rules?

1 point bonus for every 10 yards rushing or recieving is the biggest difference between ours and a regular league. the swap from bell to gurly has cost me something like 4 points at rb while adding something like 35 to my wr corps.

[tanatastic 2,062]

1 point bonus for every 10 yards rushing or recieving is the biggest difference between ours and a regular league. the swap from bell to gurly has cost me something like 4 points at rb while adding something like 35 to my wr corps.

You dont compare him to Gurley, you compare the loss compared to the other guy youd start, like forsett. since you would be starting Bell and Gurley anyway. Its not the worst trade ever, thats hyperbole, its just bad. but not the worst.

[kilroy69 1,251]

You dont compare him to Gurley, you compare the loss compared to the other guy youd start, like forsett. since you would be starting Bell and Gurley anyway. Its not the worst trade ever, thats hyperbole, its just bad. but not the worst.

I disagree. In the context of the trade being the worst ever I am saying that the bell for gurley swap is almost a wash. The part that is paying off is the upgrade at wr. My wr corps before the trade would have gained me a grand total of 7 points over the 2 weeks.

[RepoPatrol 14]

Forsett - Bell. Let say on average this is 22 pts vs 15 points a week. So he loses 7 points a week at RB

 

Cooper and Maclin should gain him at least 7 points a week each vs. who he had.

 

So basically the trades nets him about 7 points per week on average and likely a bit more.

 

Probably the same result for the other owner as well so both teams benefit.

 

Those who have bashed this trade are obviously not the greatest thinkers in the world. You have to factor in everything!

[Newkid 1]

This discussion will go no where cause there's so much missing information. For example, if this was a 16 team league with 16 roster spots then it would be a much better trade than if it was in a league with 10 teams and 16 roster spots. The critical factor being the waiver wire.

 

We at least need # of teams, # of roster spots, requirements of starting roster and scoring system before this will go anywhere.

[Kent 228]

This discussion will go no where cause there's so much missing information. For example, if this was a 16 team league with 16 roster spots then it would be a much better trade than if it was in a league with 10 teams and 16 roster spots. The critical factor being the waiver wire.

 

We at least need # of teams, # of roster spots, requirements of starting roster and scoring system before this will go anywhere.

I'd have kept Bell and picked up waiver wrs.

[jaxjag 43]

and rawls to the lynch owner for cooper,Maclin and royal. I was starting Brian quick and hoping stevie johnson could go this week. I have hillman,gurly,forsett jones,simms in a league where you can start a rb/wr at your flex. it jumped my projected point total to almost even this week and made the team better as a whole and giving more flexibility. I feel dirty trading him. but I got a haul I think and fixed some holes.

 

Too bad your league didn't veto this and save you from yourself.

 

Like most of the other responses here, I'd love to field Bell and Gurley every week, especially come play-off time. You put too much emphasis on one week's projected points.

 

I understand the goal is to improve the whole team - I think you had other backs (Forsett, Hillman, Jones, Sims) that may have helped you improve your WRs. There is also the waiver wire and WRs do emerge (example Diggs). It's a long season.

[jaxjag 43]

Forsett - Bell. Let say on average this is 22 pts vs 15 points a week. So he loses 7 points a week at RB

 

Cooper and Maclin should gain him at least 7 points a week each vs. who he had.

 

So basically the trades nets him about 7 points per week on average and likely a bit more.

 

Probably the same result for the other owner as well so both teams benefit.

 

Those who have bashed this trade are obviously not the greatest thinkers in the world. You have to factor in everything!

 

While you're at it, why don't you factor in a few more things. For example, do you think he could have moved Forsett/Rauls for Cooper? (especially to the Lynch owner) Or that the Chiefs could prove to be an unreliable offense? Or that Bell is widely considered the top asset in the game and could have commanded more?

[jaxjag 43]

Bell scored 22.4 points in my keeper league scoring week 4.

 

Rawls scored 6.25

 

Quick scored 0.00

 

Stevie scored 3.6

 

Cooper scored 10.8

 

Maclin scored 15.9

 

Royal scored 12.2

 

Gurley scored 14.85

 

Forsett scored 14.9

 

Hillman scored 16.1

 

 

So...assuming he can start two RB and two WR (I think three is more common, but he only mentioned two), his prior lineup maxed out at 42.1 if he started Bell, Hillman, Quick, and Johnson.

 

His new lineup would have maxed out at 59.1 if my math is right.

 

You can add but why insist that he is locked into Quick and Johnson? Then and going forward, the Bell/Gurley combo has a huge ceiling.

[kilroy69 1,251]

so now with lynch back the trade becomes a 2 for 1. bell for amari cooper,jeremy Maclin. Maclin has pretty much paced bell with the exception of last games concussion ender and gave me a wr 1 cooper has provided me a reliable number 3 to go along with Emanuel sanders as my 2. forsett has put up 18 to 20 points a game and moving gurly from the bench to the lineup has paid off huge. overall I stand by the outcome of the trade. my goal was to get my wr corps to the point where I was competitive after losing Jordy nelson and because of the emergence of gurly and to a lesser extent hillman I transformed my team from a mediocre team to one that has been among the highest scorers each week.

[Kent 228]

so now with lynch back the trade becomes a 2 for 1. bell for amari cooper,jeremy Maclin. Maclin has pretty much paced bell with the exception of last games concussion ender and gave me a wr 1 cooper has provided me a reliable number 3 to go along with Emanuel sanders as my 2. forsett has put up 18 to 20 points a game and moving gurly from the bench to the lineup has paid off huge. overall I stand by the outcome of the trade. my goal was to get my wr corps to the point where I was competitive after losing Jordy nelson and because of the emergence of gurly and to a lesser extent hillman I transformed my team from a mediocre team to one that has been among the highest scorers each week.

You should've kept Bell and made wr waiver claims. Then you'd have the best team in the history of fantasy sports. Now you have bad receivers and no Bell. Didn't know you had Sanders anchoring your wrs. You were gonna be ok at WR and you threw it all away. For Jeremy Maclin and Amari Cooper.

[tanatastic 2,062]

More Hyperbole from Kent (lol best team in fantasy sports) but his idea is right. Kilroy keeps justifying the trade based on his teams output. He is scoring a lot because Gurley and Forsett have played well. Starting Bell, Gurley and Forsett at flex (?) with a waiver wr would be giving same results I Think. Also haven't Maclin and Cooper been on bye last few weeks? Can't have made it that much different.

 

But end of day what matters is results so keep it going.

[Kent 228]

More Hyperbole from Kent (lol best team in fantasy sports) but his idea is right. Kilroy keeps justifying the trade based on his teams output. He is scoring a lot because Gurley and Forsett have played well. Starting Bell, Gurley and Forsett at flex (?) with a waiver wr would be giving same results I Think. Also haven't Maclin and Cooper been on bye last few weeks? Can't have made it that much different.

He had Sanders at the time of the trade. Why trade anyone. Just pick up one Waiver WR and away you go.

 

Worst trade in the history of trades. Not just fantasy trades. Any trade for anything ever.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

so now with lynch back the trade becomes a 2 for 1. bell for amari cooper,jeremy Maclin. Maclin has pretty much paced bell with the exception of last games concussion ender and gave me a wr 1 cooper has provided me a reliable number 3 to go along with Emanuel sanders as my 2. forsett has put up 18 to 20 points a game and moving gurly from the bench to the lineup has paid off huge. overall I stand by the outcome of the trade. my goal was to get my wr corps to the point where I was competitive after losing Jordy nelson and because of the emergence of gurly and to a lesser extent hillman I transformed my team from a mediocre team to one that has been among the highest scorers each week.

If that was your goal, you should've gotten far better WRs. Those guys are pretty much JAGs

[kilroy69 1,251]

Lol. you guys play in a shallow league if Maclin and cooper are jags. my waiver wire has shitt. we have deep benches and attentive owners.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Lol. you guys play in a shallow league if Maclin and cooper are jags. my waiver wire has shitt. we have deep benches and attentive owners.

Maclin would be good except his QB is a focking scaredy cat who can't or won't throw downfield. Really limits his ceiling

 

Cooper is a rookie WR on the damn Raiders. Enough said.

 

You traded away a top RB for a couple of also-rans. Simple fact

[Newkid 1]

Lol. you guys play in a shallow league if Maclin and cooper are jags. my waiver wire has shitt. we have deep benches and attentive owners.

You were asked for the league settings. Why are you hiding behind a veil?

 

You aren't even comparing the right things. You should be comparing what you would be scoring is you still had Bell (while starting Gurley and Forsett) and whoever you plug into WR over what you currently score. Of course if you can't start 3 RBs in your league then it's a different story.

 

Gurley and Forsett are scoring so much better than before you traded Bell.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

And Maclin is out with injury. Who could've know that would happen though?

[kilroy69 1,251]

bell 23 points.

 

gurly 36 points.

 

cooper. 28 points.

 

say what you focks wish but I'm on track to score a new league high 218 points. 2 of the 3 weeks since the trade have been wins. all 3 have been above 170.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Cooper okay, but I must've missed where you got Gurley in the trade

[kilroy69 1,251]

Cooper okay, but I must've missed where you got Gurley in the trade

gurly was on my bench. he got moved into the lineup when bell left.

[bobby heenan 60]

You did fine Lil Roy don't listen to these dweebs

[stonewall 647]

Can this thread die already?

[bobby heenan 60]

Can this thread die already?

It won't die because too many idiots can't fathom someone traded the almighty leveon bell....bell is great no doubt and in most situations it would be stupid...in this guy's situation it wasnt.....maybe he could have gotten more but he improved his team which I could tell from the onset.....but too many can't wrap their pea brains around it

[Kent 228]

It won't die because too many idiots can't fathom someone traded the almighty leveon bell....bell is great no doubt and in most situations it would be stupid...in this guy's situation it wasnt.....maybe he could have gotten more but he improved his team which I could tell from the onset.....but too many can't wrap their pea brains around it

What's with all the name calling?

 

He traded Bell in a year when there are like 5 real stud backs and a million good wrs. He got Amari Cooper amd Jeremy Maclin.

[jaxjag 43]

bell 23 points.

 

gurly 36 points.

 

cooper. 28 points.

 

say what you focks wish but I'm on track to score a new league high 218 points. 2 of the 3 weeks since the trade have been wins. all 3 have been above 170.

 

 

And you could have Bell, Gurley and Cooper had you not overpaid - probably could have swung Forsett/Rauls for Cooper.

[kilroy69 1,251]

What's with all the name calling?

 

He traded Bell in a year when there are like 5 real stud backs and a million good wrs. He got Amari Cooper amd Jeremy Maclin.

Kent

You seem to be a little bit of a moron. Maybe you just can not read. There were not other trades to be had. this was the best trade I had available. The trade made my team SIGNIFICANTLY better than it was. Bell is not god. He can not win the game for you by himself. It is ok if you do not understand. You seem to have some type of mental deficiency.

[Kent 228]

Kent

You seem to be a little bit of a moron. Maybe you just can not read. There were not other trades to be had. this was the best trade I had available. The trade made my team SIGNIFICANTLY better than it was. Bell is not god. He can not win the game for you by himself. It is ok if you do not understand. You seem to have some type of mental deficiency.

I now believe this is a troll thread and the trade never happened.

[killersquids 3]

I now believe this is a troll thread and the trade never happened.

 

I was just thinking the same thing.

[kilroy69 1,251]

I now believe this is a troll thread and the trade never happened.

That is pretty amusing coming from a troll. Why don't you turn your attention to the billy goats about to cross the bridge and leave us here to discuss fantasy football?

[Kent 228]

That is pretty amusing coming from a troll. Why don't you turn your attention to the billy goats about to cross the bridge and leave us here to discuss fantasy football?

Now I'm a troll? Classic troll redirect. 10/10. Bravo.

 

You knew the reaction you were looking for when you made the thread. Congrats. You got it.

[kilroy69 1,251]

Now I'm a troll? Classic troll redirect. 10/10. Bravo.

 

You knew the reaction you were looking for when you made the thread. Congrats. You got it.

Wait......who are you again? ohhhh nevermind just a troll that got ignored that's who.

[stonewall 647]

Can this thread die already?

[Kent 228]

Wait......who are you again? ohhhh nevermind just a troll that got ignored that's who.

 

I don't think you know what "ignored" means. And I'm the moron?

 

Here's a hint: stop quoting me if you're going to ignore me. Just for starters.

 

Good luck this year with the rest of your fictional fantasy season. I hope you win and take home the trophy. A purple unicorn.

[jgcrawfish 232]

I love this bored.

[Newkid 1]

Still going in circles cause this guy refuse to show his league settings. I am curious what team and scoring system is producing 170-200 point weeks.

 

Until then there is no reason to be had here.

[kilroy69 1,251]

Still going in circles cause this guy refuse to show his league settings. I am curious what team and scoring system is producing 170-200 point weeks.

Until then there is no reason to be had here.

I'm actually just ignoring you because you can't read. not my fault. probably a lazy parent.

[Newkid 1]

I'm actually just ignoring you because you can't read. not my fault. probably a lazy parent.

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