I just traded Bell.

[Kent 228]

I'm starting Rawls Sunday. He's going to get 35 touches since they are down to a Fullback.

[bobby heenan 60]

Too many stuck in the mud people looking at draft positions and simply hearing the name leveon bell

 

The draft is over and we're a month into the season....if u want to keep harping on where guys were drafted go ahead

 

Yes leveon bell is a dream....a godsend ....if u have a decent team around him....clearly this guy's team is struggling and certainly at a particular position which is wr.....

 

Again....he has guys like hillman...forsett...and gurley in his backfield ....I doubt it but gurley could be right there with bell the rest of the way...or come close .....he has other guys that are decent plays at rb ....his wr options pre trade stunk flat out

 

Ya trading bell never seems like a good idea....unless your team and year are sinking... If he lost the last two weeks what good did bell do?

 

Now people are worried about how good the other guys team is after this trade? Lol....insane....ya he might have the most loaded team in the league.....bottom line is this guy needs to save his season and get into contention and let the chips fall

 

You guys are too hung up on who bell is and where cooper and maclin were drafted to understand the situation ....and ya I still think he might have been able to get a little more or better.., but I still think this trsde makes his team all around better

[Kent 228]

Too many stuck in the mud people looking at draft positions and simply hearing the name leveon bell

 

The draft is over and we're a month into the season....if u want to keep harping on where guys were drafted go ahead

 

Yes leveon bell is a dream....a godsend ....if u have a decent team around him....clearly this guy's team is struggling and certainly at a particular position which is wr.....

 

Again....he has guys like hillman...forsett...and gurley in his backfield ....I doubt it but gurley could be right there with bell the rest of the way...or come close .....he has other guys that are decent plays at rb ....his wr options pre trade stunk flat out

 

Ya trading bell never seems like a good idea....unless your team and year are sinking... If he lost the last two weeks what good did bell do?

 

Now people are worried about how good the other guys team is after this trade? Lol....insane....ya he might have the most loaded team in the league.....bottom line is this guy needs to save his season and get into contention and let the chips fall

 

You guys are too hung up on who bell is and where cooper and maclin were drafted to understand the situation ....and ya I still think he might have been able to get a little more or better.., but I still think this trsde makes his team all around better

He also gave up Rawls.

 

Doh!

[bobby heenan 60]

He also gave up Rawls.

Doh!

Ok? And? Let's not analyze the Rawls part of this deal right now....since he was mostly getting killed for leveon bell

 

If the guy is 2-6 with bell in another month what good would bell be to him? If he misses the playoffs what consolation does he have? Does he get a trophy and some money for owning leveon bell? Is their some kind of award for that?

[Kent 228]

Ok? And? Let's not analyze the Rawls part of this deal right now....since he was mostly getting killed for leveon bell

 

If the guy is 2-6 with bell in another month what good would bell be to him? If he misses the playoffs what consolation does he have? Does he get a trophy and some money for owning leveon bell? Is their some kind of award for that?

Let's not analyze Rawls? Because it makes your argument look bad? Rawls is now a #1 back on a team that likes to run and play good defense. Lynch is old and carry worn.

 

He gave up bell for a rookie WR and a Chief WR. There is no way to sugar coat the trade. Sorry.

 

I'm starting Rawks this week. He would be too.

[bobby heenan 60]

Let's not analyze Rawls? Because it makes your argument look bad? Rawls is now a #1 back on a team that likes to run and play good defense. Lynch is old and carry worn.

He gave up bell for a rookie WR and a Chief WR. There is no way to sugar coat the trade. Sorry.

So what's your projection on Rawls the rest of the way? If lynch is cleared to play does he overtake lynch or is he getting a handful of touches each week?

 

Do u know exactly how long Rawls is a #1 back?

 

If we're going by the way most of the people in this thread think.....Rawls is just a luxury picked off the waiver wire (since some seem so hong up on draft position)

 

U still havent answered my question ....what good is bell if he has lost the last two weeks with bell? What good is bell if he doesn't make playoffs? Does he get an award for drafting him? What good is bell if he's starting brian quick and stevie j at wr?

[Kent 228]

So what's your projection on Rawls the rest of the way? If lynch is cleared to play does he overtake lynch or is he getting a handful of touches each week?

 

Do u know exactly how long Rawls is a #1 back?

 

If we're going by the way most of the people in this thread think.....Rawls is just a luxury picked off the waiver wire (since some seem so hong up on draft position)

 

U still havent answered my question ....what good is bell if he has lost the last two weeks with bell? What good is bell if he doesn't make playoffs? Does he get an award for drafting him? What good is bell if he's starting brian quick and stevie j at wr?

Bell is no good for Amari Cooper and Maclin. You trade Bell for Julio and Maclin. That's what Bell is good for.

 

Now he's going to lose without Bell too. With Bell he had a chance and at least a shot at a stud WR.

[bobby heenan 60]

Bell is no good for Amari Cooper and Maclin. You trade Bell for Julio and Maclin. That's what Bell is good for.

Now he's going to lose without Bell too. With Bell he had a chance and at least a shot at a stud WR.

Only in your world can u get julio and maclin for bell....only in a non competitive league

 

Let me answer my question for u correctly ....the answer is "bell is no good to a non playoff team and no u do not get an award at the end of the season for simply owning bell"

[Kent 228]

Only in your world can u get julio and maclin for bell....only in a non competitive league

 

Let me answer my question for u correctly ....the answer is "bell is no good to a non playoff team and no u do not get an award at the end of the season for simply owning bell"

You're making a huge assumption he loses WITH Bell. It's hilarious.

[brotherbock 349]

You're making a huge assumption he loses WITH Bell. It's hilarious.

I think we're assuming that he has been losing, even with Bell back. If he's been winning and traded Bell away...I don't think Heenan will even defend that one.

[Kent 228]

I think we're assuming that he has been losing, even with Bell back. If he's been winning and traded Bell away...I don't think Heenan will even defend that one.

The sample size is too small since Bell has only played 2 weeks this year. He's been good both weeks.

[bobby heenan 60]

You're making a huge assumption he loses WITH Bell. It's hilarious.

I'm guessing by the trade he didn't exactly go 2-0 with bell in lineup last two weeks....I think we can agree on that...even if he went 1-1 last two with bell he'd be silly to make such a deal.....I'm sure anyone who drafts bell is aware what they have

 

It's most likely bell hasn't helped him yet win a game yet and he thinks it will be tough to win with the team he had

 

Ya maybe he hold onto bell and things turn sround....but he's stating quick and stevie j....that's enough to sink a team with bell and ___(insert virtually an other rb in league)...., even with bell that kind of team is going to struggle to score consistent points unless quick turns into Torry holt and Steve johnson turns into VJax from 5 years ago ......

 

This was a move that gives him more consistent points across he board ....he's got 3 decent rbs left to plug and play

[bobby heenan 60]

The sample size is too small since Bell has only played 2 weeks this year. He's been good both weeks.

Yep he has been good....and prob hasn't been enough because rest of team is weak....even with bell being good

 

Ya the sample size is small but I think he sees the writing on the wall....and it's not like hes starting CJ Anderson and demarco murray at rb now

 

I don't think he's losing because he's scoring and just facing unlucky matchups each week....I think he's losing and not scoring enough points to beat most teams in his league

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

Bell is no good for Amari Cooper and Maclin. You trade Bell for Julio and Maclin. That's what Bell is good for.

 

Now he's going to lose without Bell too. With Bell he had a chance and at least a shot at a stud WR.

As a Bell owner in all leagues (and a Bell, julio, luck owner in one) i would never trade Julio and Maclin for Bell.

[brotherbock 349]

Bell scored 22.4 points in my keeper league scoring week 4.

 

Rawls scored 6.25

 

Quick scored 0.00

 

Stevie scored 3.6

 

Cooper scored 10.8

 

Maclin scored 15.9

 

Royal scored 12.2

 

Gurley scored 14.85

 

Forsett scored 14.9

 

Hillman scored 16.1

 

 

So...assuming he can start two RB and two WR (I think three is more common, but he only mentioned two), his prior lineup maxed out at 42.1 if he started Bell, Hillman, Quick, and Johnson.

 

His new lineup would have maxed out at 59.1 if my math is right.

[weepaws 3,204]

If I drafted Bell number one and he looked awful I would look to trade him but I'm not going to draft him and hold him and then trade him after he has played Two good games

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

I traded Leveon Bell after his first game back

 

I got DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald and Frank Gore

 

the OP got raped

[bobby heenan 60]

I traded Leveon Bell after his first game back

 

I got DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald and Frank Gore

 

the OP got raped

Situations and rosters are relevant ...also competitiveness and league stakes

 

If someone traded u Hopkins, fitz and gore....I mean fitz was a 7th to later round pick ....Hopkins anywhere from a 3-4....that guy could have julio jones and Matt forte for all I know....guy could have james jones and allen hurns from off waivers ......so losing guys like fitz and gore don't mean a hell of alot when he can get bell.....it'd conceivable that guy that traded to u had julio, hopkins, maclin and fitz.....it's all relative to rosters and situations

 

Alot of situations are different .....the op trading bell really helped his overall projected scoring .....something bell wasn't going to do in his own ...and his wr situation wasn't likely to get any better on its own

[kilroy69 1,251]

Bell scored 22.4 points in my keeper league scoring week 4.

 

Rawls scored 6.25

 

Quick scored 0.00

 

Stevie scored 3.6

 

Cooper scored 10.8

 

Maclin scored 15.9

 

Royal scored 12.2

 

Gurley scored 14.85

 

Forsett scored 14.9

 

Hillman scored 16.1

 

 

So...assuming he can start two RB and two WR (I think three is more common, but he only mentioned two), his prior lineup maxed out at 42.1 if he started Bell, Hillman, Quick, and Johnson.

 

His new lineup would have maxed out at 59.1 if my math is right.

it ended up taking me fronm a projected total of 140 to a projected total of 159. I'm 2 and 2 in a league full of 2 and 2s. If the projected point total holds I will win against a pretty good team. the people who are bashing it fail to see how bad my wr corps were. bell scored 30 the last 2 weeks. so did Maclin. toss in cooper's floor of around 18 and royal as a bye week replacement. those that ask me about pairing bell with a top wr. I did. Jordy nelson.

[kilroy69 1,251]

Bell scored 22.4 points in my keeper league scoring week 4.

 

Rawls scored 6.25

 

Quick scored 0.00

 

Stevie scored 3.6

 

Cooper scored 10.8

 

Maclin scored 15.9

 

Royal scored 12.2

 

Gurley scored 14.85

 

Forsett scored 14.9

 

Hillman scored 16.1

 

 

So...assuming he can start two RB and two WR (I think three is more common, but he only mentioned two), his prior lineup maxed out at 42.1 if he started Bell, Hillman, Quick, and Johnson.

 

His new lineup would have maxed out at 59.1 if my math is right.

it ended up taking me fronm a projected total of 140 to a projected total of 159. I'm 2 and 2 in a league full of 2 and 2s. If the projected point total holds I will win against a pretty good team. the people who are bashing it fail to see how bad my wr corps were. bell scored 30 the last 2 weeks. so did Maclin. toss in cooper's floor of around 18 and royal as a bye week replacement. those that ask me about pairing bell with a top wr. I did. Jordy nelson.

[kilroy69 1,251]

Prior to the trade my season high was 130. The first game post trade I scored a league season high 201 points. Fuckk all of those who doubted me.

 

Maclin scored as many points as bell.

Rawls outscored Cooper but was on his bench and would have been on mine too.

Royal sat out but will be a bye week filler this week.

[Kent 228]

As a Bell owner in all leagues (and a Bell, julio, luck owner in one) i would never trade Julio and Maclin for Bell.

Julio is going to miss games. You can't start him this week. He may play 5 snaps. He was awful last week against the Redskins. Fell on a fumble to save his day.

[Kent 228]

Prior to the trade my season high was 130. The first game post trade I scored a league season high 201 points. Fuckk all of those who doubted me.

 

Maclin scored as many points as bell.

Rawls outscored Cooper but was on his bench and would have been on mine too.

Royal sat out but will be a bye week filler this week.

I started Rawls and he got me a two point victory. He's a stud and will be amazing this year as Lynch crumbles.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Julio is going to miss games. You can't start him this week. He may play 5 snaps. He was awful last week against the Redskins. Fell on a fumble to save his day.

With Freeman taing over that offense and Julio trnding down, meanwhile Bell is a top 2 RB in fantasy, id say its not that far fetched. Id like to get a good prospective wr along with him to replace Julio tho. If I can get Bell and Allen Robinson im doing that all day. Wrs are easily replaceable, not so for top shelf RBs.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Still a dumb trade

[SexyRexy 60]

I'm back to remind u this trade sucked

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

Julio is going to miss games. You can't start him this week. He may play 5 snaps. He was awful last week against the Redskins. Fell on a fumble to save his day.

When i posted that it was before Julios hammy seemed as serious as it is.

[thePRO 78]

18 points for bell

 

And

 

14 points from Maclin and Cooper lol

 

22-24 if PPR.

[kilroy69 1,251]

18 points for bell

 

And

 

14 points from Maclin and Cooper lol

 

22-24 if PPR.

26 points for bell

 

21points for maclin( his 3rd straight game over 20 points)

12 points for cooper

 

More importantly between the 2 players that I was going to start at wr I would have got TWO points.I shifted Gurley into bells spot and he got me 20 points.

[thePRO 78]

26 points for bell

 

21points for maclin( his 3rd straight game over 20 points)

12 points for cooper

 

More importantly between the 2 players that I was going to start at wr I would have got TWO points.I shifted Gurley into bells spot and he got me 20 points.

I have 8 catches for 80 yards for Maclin? Where's the 5 come from? Guessing bonuses.

[kilroy69 1,251]

Yea we get a yardage bonus.

[bobby heenan 60]

26 points for bell

 

21points for maclin( his 3rd straight game over 20 points)

12 points for cooper

 

More importantly between the 2 players that I was going to start at wr I would have got TWO points.I shifted Gurley into bells spot and he got me 20 points.

and thats one of the most important details of the trade.....ur still starting gurley or forsett at rb....gurley may be as talented as bell and getting just as much opportunity.....your dropoff at rb is not that steep even though you were dealing one of the most valuable players in fantasy

 

trading bell never seems look a good idea...guy is a certified animal......but in some rare cases it makes sense...some people dont want to face that...they just hear "leveon bell" and automatically think you are nuts for even considering dealing him

[jdon 28]

 

That is the worst trade I have ever heard anyone admit to. Cooper and Maclin???? No No No...and I am not even counting Royal cause he should be on the waiver in 95% of all leagues. Bell is worth Julio and Maclin in my opinion.

I offered julio and dion lewis for Bell in a ppr league... dude laughed at me. as he should

 

OP, you up homie

[bobby heenan 60]

I offered julio and dion lewis for Bell in a ppr league... dude laughed at me. as he should

 

OP, you ###### up homie

Another typical response from a guy who is strictly looking at it from his own perspective .....try reading all responses and realize he still has gurley and Forsett .....but was starting Steve johnson and quick at wr......bell wasn't helping him win and helping his overall team score points

[Houston Texans 10]

Another typical response from a guy who is strictly looking at it from his own perspective .....try reading all responses and realize he still has gurley and Forsett .....but was starting Steve johnson and quick at wr......bell wasn't helping him win and helping his overall team score points

I'm in a similar situation.

 

have an offer of Lynch, D Murray and Julio for Bell.

 

Keeper league; only Bell can be kept-the other 3 are at the end of their contracts. Would be a rental situation.

 

RBs now are: Bell, Martin, Blount (flex) WRs now are: Cobb, J Matthews

 

RBs after would be: Lynch, Martin, D Murray (flex) & WRs would be Julio and Cobb.

 

Is the upgrade from Blount to Murray & Matthews to Julio worth the drop from Bell to Lynch (is Murray an upgrade?)

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

Im trying to trade Bell in my big money league. Im 1-5 and need to win out. I offered up Bell and Graham for Foster and Gronk, non ppr. I offered Bell and Matt Ryan for Gurley and A Rodgers to a diff owner in the same league, 6 pt pass tds.

[Kent 228]

Im trying to trade Bell in my big money league. Im 1-5 and need to win out. I offered up Bell and Graham for Foster and Gronk, non ppr. I offered Bell and Matt Ryan for Gurley and A Rodgers to a diff owner in the same league, 6 pt pass tds.

I wouldn't take those trades if I were those owners. Gronk is pretty much untradeable. He's just such a huge weekly advantage.

 

Why would anyone give up Gurley and Rodgers? Gurley looks like the second coming of AP.

[kilroy69 1,251]

So far my trade has paid off huge dividends. I lost last week to the leagues high scorer and that was without a lot of my team due to byes. However I scored 177 points good for second highest behind the guy I lost to and also good for 47 points over what my avg was.

[Kent 228]

So far my trade has paid off huge dividends. I lost last week to the leagues high scorer and that was without a lot of my team due to byes. However I scored 177 points good for second highest behind the guy I lost to and also good for 47 points over what my avg was.

 

Still goes down as the worst trade of all time. You would've won this week if you had traded for better receivers.

[kilroy69 1,251]

Still goes down as the worst trade of all time. You would've won this week if you had traded for better receivers.

I am still not sure if you are getting it. I traded with a team that HAD wr to give and needed a RB. NO OTHER TEAM was like that in my league. The trade I made was the best option I had and it made my team significantly better. How can it be the worst trade ever if the trade has seen my team go from an avg score of 130 to one of over 170?