Mitt blasts The Donald.

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Gocolts has told us a handful of time that his candidate is Cruz.

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Gocolts has told us a handful of time that his candidate is Cruz.

Who is 'us'? You guys act like we all sit around in one big circle and talk to one another taking notes. I'm sure at some Timmy Smith or a Mike Honcho prolly said so too in a thread, maybe several times. But I dont recall if they did, hopefully if someone was to ask they would merely just answer.

 

Not everybody reads the same threads, let alone posts. I didn't recall him ever really saying, only noticed he apologized for both Cruz and Trump in the threads I have read. So I asked a simple question. One that could have been answered and met with one word.

 

Instead we got a barrage of manic posts. Over asking a question. It's weird, dumb and rather mental.

 

Sorry.

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I've seen him post his preference at least on three occasions maybe more. As for why he's being coy now, that's for him to explain.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Gocolts has told us a handful of time that his candidate is Cruz.

He has seemingly backed off of that over the last couple months. Looks like he's back in though. Too bad, I thought he'd figured out Cruz is a liar and a creep

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He has seemingly backed off of that over the last couple months. Looks like he's back in though. Too bad, I thought he'd figured out Cruz is a liar and a creep

 

as opposed to everyone else we see up there?

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as opposed to everyone else we see up there?

This is the funniest part about it. People acting like there is some sort of great alternative. Sanders is an honest man, but he sealed his fate years ago calling himself a socialist. It's just never going to fly in America. He would be better off if he were gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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as opposed to everyone else we see up there?

 

As opposed to Sanders, yes.

 

As opposed to Kasich, yes.

 

But that probably is about it.

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As opposed to Sanders, yes.

 

As opposed to Kasich, yes.

 

But that probably is about it.

Once Kasich starts getting looked at you won't be saying that. He's the biggest con man there is on that stage. But he gives everyone the aw shucks treatment and they fall for it. Eddie Haskell.

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Once Kasich starts getting looked at you won't be saying that. He's the biggest con man there is on that stage. But he gives everyone the aw shucks treatment and they fall for it. Eddie Haskell.

That's rich from a guy who has fallen for Trumps crap.

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Once Kasich starts getting looked at you won't be saying that. He's the biggest con man there is on that stage. But he gives everyone the aw shucks treatment and they fall for it. Eddie Haskell.

No candidate is perfect. They all have flaws and things that can be viewed as negatives. But Kasich was in a heated race for Govener in 2010. His opponent pulled out all the stops. And he still won after being vetted. Also he has years and years of experience to look at. A persons history and resume and voting history is.....what it is. There is actual substance to look at and rely upon. You're pulling the 'he's the biggest con man of them all' out of your arse. If that as true, he'd of been exposed years ago.

 

With Trump, you don't have that. He's just now being vetted.

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Funny thread!

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Funny Sad thread!

 

How do yous guys say

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[IGotWorms 4,063]

Once Kasich starts getting looked at you won't be saying that. He's the biggest con man there is on that stage. But he gives everyone the aw shucks treatment and they fall for it. Eddie Haskell.

 

Well that's certainly a possibility. But so far the only thing I've heard about him is that he's pretty rabid pro-life and that doesn't really bother me too much.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

No candidate is perfect. They all have flaws and things that can be viewed as negatives. But Kasich was in a heated race for Govener in 2010. His opponent pulled out all the stops. And he still won after being vetted. Also he has years and years of experience to look at. A persons history and resume and voting history is.....what it is. There is actual substance to look at and rely upon. You're pulling the 'he's the biggest con man of them all' out of your arse. If that as true, he'd of been exposed years ago.

 

With Trump, you don't have that. He's just now being vetted.

Never held a job outside of Govt in his life and as soon as he leaves congress he gets a job with Lehman. Why's that? I wonder how he voted all those years about Wall Sreeet oversight and regulation? He did the bidding of the biggest crooks on the planet and was rewarded handsomely for his efforts. And we got to pay for a lot of his bounty.

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Well that's certainly a possibility. But so far the only thing I've heard about him is that he's pretty rabid pro-life and that doesn't really bother me too much.

In a General Election there are two things and pretty much two things only a Hillary Machine could hit Kasich on.

 

1. He is a Pro Life Conservative. Absolutely, and the left will bring this topic up in November no matter what. But so is Cruz and Rubio. I would say Trump but he changes stances daily so who knows.

 

2. Kasich held a Director position for a local Lehmens Brothers Bank in Ohio. That name automatically gives an opponent something to bring up. However his opponent for Govener ran that rabbit hole all the way to the bottom. And it didn't stick. Because Kasich wasn't on the board of directors, wasn't in the 'mortgage' wing of the company and didn't make high level decisions that rooned that company. Kasich also has released all his tax returns those years which is how everybody knows his salary and compensation while there. It's a negative based on association, yes, and it gives the tin foil hat conspiracy folks (see post above) ammo. But he's been vetted extensively on it and there was nothing more than what we know already.

 

 

Other than that his record speaks for itself. And it's impressive.

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Kasich as the nominee with Rubio as his running mate is to me the most viable GE ticket the Reps have. Trump has no shot at all and frankly I don't think Cruz is much better.

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In a General Election there are two things and pretty much two things only a Hillary Machine could hit Kasich on.

 

1. He is a Pro Life Conservative. Absolutely, and the left will bring this topic up in November no matter what. But so is Cruz and Rubio. I would say Trump but he changes stances daily so who knows.

 

2. Kasich held a Director position for a local Lehmens Brothers Bank in Ohio. That name automatically gives an opponent something to bring up. However his opponent for Govener ran that rabbit hole all the way to the bottom. And it didn't stick. Because Kasich wasn't on the board of directors, wasn't in the 'mortgage' wing of the company and didn't make high level decisions that rooned that company. Kasich also has released all his tax returns those years which is how everybody knows his salary and compensation while there. It's a negative based on association. But he's been vetted extensively on it and there was nothing more than what we know already.

 

 

Other than that his record speaks for itself. And it's impressive.

You're not seeing what his job with Lehamn was all about. He wasn't given that job for what he would do for them, he was given that job because of what he had done for them as a member of congress. It was a reward. Wall Street and the banks and many corporations do it all the time. Sure, it's not money in a briefcase for his support and votes, but it has the same affect. So saying what he did while at Lehamn misses the mark. His work was already done. But it's not like Hillary is going to be able to tag him with it. She's just as bad.

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You're not seeing what his job with Lehamn was all about. He wasn't given that job for what he would do for them, he was given that job because of what he had done for them as a member of congress. It was a reward. Wall Street and the banks and many corporations do it all the time. Sure, it's not money in a briefcase for his support and votes, but it has the same affect. So saying what he did while at Lehamn misses the mark. His work was already done. But it's not like Hillary is going to be able to tag him with it. She's just as bad.

Look, we can come up with conspiracy theories all day. But what I do know is his time there was and is known about. His opponent for Govener tried to run with this and looked under ever nook and cranny and nothing 'nefarious' came up.

 

So I'll stick with the facts. You have fun thinking and imagining stuff in your head.

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Look, we can come up with conspiracy theories all day. But what I do know is his time there was and is known about. His opponent for Govener tried to run with this and looked under ever nook and cranny and nothing 'nefarious' came up.

 

So I'll stick with the facts. You have fun thinking and imagining stuff in your head.

I didnt say it was nefarious. No laws were broken, but he is part of, and had a great benefit from, our broken system. Of course nothing he did was illegal, how could it be when the ones that benefit from it wrote that laws? This is the same system that brought about an economic collapse, and the ones who designed it and ultimately benefited from it have never been held accountable. And they want to do it again. Kasich said the other night that he wants to do away with regulations. What do you think he's talking about? Do you think he's talking about some zoning law? He's talking about getting rid of the capital requirements for borrowing, which is what got us in the mess in the first place, but made his masters rich. Where do I sign up? I telling you, the guy is way more dangerous than people see. Aw shucks.

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I didnt say it was nefarious. No laws were broken, but he is part of, and had a great benefit from, our broken system. Of course nothing he did was illegal, how could it be when the ones that benefit from it wrote that laws? This is the same system that brought about an economic collapse, and the ones who designed it and ultimately benefited from it have never been held accountable. And they want to do it again. Kasich said the other night that he wants to do away with regulations. What do you think he's talking about? Do you think he's talking about some zoning law? He's talking about getting rid of the capital requirements for borrowing, which is what got us in the mess in the first place, but made his masters rich. Where do I sign up? I telling you, the guy is way more dangerous than people see. Aw shucks.

Donald Trump IS the exact thing you're talking about though. He's been in the middle of business-politics and that marraige for over 40 years. He brags about paying off politicians for his own gain.

 

Trump isnt the anti-crony capitalism. He IS the crony capitalism.

 

That's the irony of this whole election cycle.

 

Look, the point is that Kasichs few years in the public sector has been vetted. I'm sure people will use it against him. Fine, it should be vetted. But that's pretty much all they got, and that well is damn near dry.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

In a General Election there are two things and pretty much two things only a Hillary Machine could hit Kasich on.

 

1. He is a Pro Life Conservative. Absolutely, and the left will bring this topic up in November no matter what. But so is Cruz and Rubio. I would say Trump but he changes stances daily so who knows.

 

2. Kasich held a Director position for a local Lehmens Brothers Bank in Ohio. That name automatically gives an opponent something to bring up. However his opponent for Govener ran that rabbit hole all the way to the bottom. And it didn't stick. Because Kasich wasn't on the board of directors, wasn't in the 'mortgage' wing of the company and didn't make high level decisions that rooned that company. Kasich also has released all his tax returns those years which is how everybody knows his salary and compensation while there. It's a negative based on association, yes, and it gives the tin foil hat conspiracy folks (see post above) ammo. But he's been vetted extensively on it and there was nothing more than what we know already.

 

 

Other than that his record speaks for itself. And it's impressive.

I dunno, you're kind of losing me on #2. I mean I just don't buy that he was some low level regional peon guy. Not after being a US Congressman. And if he was, well then why is he good enough to be president if he couldn't land a big gig at Lehman?

 

Yeah that issue could sink him for me but I'd have to know more. Also presumably he'd be going against Hillary and she's probably just as much of a shill if not even moreso, so I guess it wouldn't matter so much

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The Republicans need to nip this now, and stop this nonsense... infighting and bickering allows someone like Trump to gain steam and momentum, banding together is the best way to head this off.

 

In March 1933 17,264,296 German people voted for the National Socialist party, 20,680,000 others split their votes between democrats, communists etc....a lack of unity allows the people with the biggest voice, based on anger, who make tons of claims and promises in....and that is not all the great....

 

Time to get together people.......

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

You know what they say,that during political discourse, once you bring up Hitler.....,

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You know what they say,that during political discourse, once you bring up Hitler.....,

 

I do not know. I am aware that people who do not learn from their mistakes......

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I do not know. I am aware that people who do not learn from their mistakes......

What people? Last I checked it was Germans in the 1930s who voted for him. Might as well bring up Genghis Khan. Godwins Law. Check it out.

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What people? Last I checked it was Germans in the 1930s who voted for him. Might as well bring up Genghis Khan. Godwins Law. Check it out.

 

Any people. It's not the people or the time period, its what can be learned and not repeated. Note that you introduced the name Hitler, and ignored the context of the assertion, and continue to do so. You would be more apt to promote Jefferson's statements on plurality.,

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Any people. It's not the people or the time period, its what can be learned and not repeated. Note that you introduced the name Hitler, and ignored the context of the assertion, and continue to do so. You would be more apt to promote Jefferson's statements on plurality.,

Oh, so you weren't talking about Hitler when you brought up that Germans voted Nazi? You were just talking about the political party that they voted for?

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Oh, so you weren't talking about Hitler when you brought up that Germans voted Nazi? You were just talking about the political party that they voted for?

This disingenuous poosay tactic is classic RLLD.

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Sanders and Cruz are the ones I fear getting elected.

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Oh, so you weren't talking about Hitler when you brought up that Germans voted Nazi? You were just talking about the political party that they voted for?

 

Correct. It does not matter that Hitler was involved, the point that was emphatically made was that the majority of Germans voted for something other than the National Socialists, but because their votes were spread, the Socialists were victorious; hence my assertion that the Republicans need to fix their sh!t.

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This disingenuous poosay tactic is classic RLLD.

 

Says the racist dooshbag, your stupidity once more on display.

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Says the racist dooshbag, your stupidity once more on display.

Rut Roh looks like Dirtbag Ray is going to pop a forehead vein again.

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And y'all thought it was cool that one of our own, ~stick, was in politics. Well, RLLD may have just been outed as the President of Mexico.

 

 

Mexico's president has said his country will not pay for White House hopeful Donald Trump's proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, and likened his "strident tone" to the ascent of dictators like Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.

President Enrique Pena Nieto's comments, published in Monday's Excelsior newspaper, were among the most critical public comments yet by a foreign leader of the New York billionaire.

 

 

 

Asked by Excelsior whether there was a "scenario" under which Mexico would pay if Trump won the presidency, Pena Nieto was clear. "There is no scenario," he said. "I have to say that I regret (the plan), and of course, I can't agree with this American politician's position."

Trump, who has also aroused concern among many in his own party with his proposals, has accused Mexico of sending rapists and drug runners across the border and vowed to increase fees on some Mexican visas and all border crossing cards to help make Mexico pay for the wall.

Pena Nieto attacked the "populism" of the Trump campaign, which he said sought to put forward "very easy, simple solutions to problems that are obviously not that easy to solve."

"And there have been episodes in human history, unfortunately, where these expressions of this strident rhetoric have only led to very ominous situations in the history of humanity," the Mexican president added.

"That's how Mussolini got in, that's how Hitler got in, they took advantage of a situation, a problem perhaps, which humanity was going through at the time, after an economic crisis.

 

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Rut Roh looks like Dirtbag Ray is going to pop a forehead vein again.

 

Aww, you gonna cry now? Throw some more name calling out, maybe you can throw out some racist verbiage, you are good at that.

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And y'all thought it was cool that one of our own, ~stick, was in politics. Well, RLLD may have just been outed as the President of Mexico.

 

 

 

 

You do realize that was not my assertion. Reading comprehension around here must be taking the day off....

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You do realize that was not my assertion. Reading comprehension around here must be taking the day off....

 

I was making a joke. Lighten Up.

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Correct. It does not matter that Hitler was involved, the point that was emphatically made was that the majority of Germans voted for something other than the National Socialists, but because their votes were spread, the Socialists were victorious; hence my assertion that the Republicans need to fix their sh!t.

And the only example you could come up with was Germany in the 1930's? If you try real hard, you may be able to make your point with a more contemporary example, not one from 90 years ago that ended up in a world war and a holocaust. Now go hit the Google.

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And the only example you could come up with was Germany in the 1930's? If you try real hard, you may be able to make your point with a more contemporary example, not one from 90 years ago that ended up in a world war and a holocaust. Now go hit the Google.

 

I am not clear what results you are hoping to find, or what point you feel can be further made. Please feel free to add to my example if you agree that the dilution of voters is a concern.

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Has ray brought up Brady and the Pats yet today ?

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Aww, you gonna cry now? Throw some more name calling out, maybe you can throw out some racist verbiage, you are good at that.

Says the guy who immediately called me racist.

 

You are what you hate Ray: a hypocrite and a bigot who doesn't even have the balls to stand behind what he says. You're an effeminate waffling shell of a man and a pity you.