What if it's found that Trump did help the Russians

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[Sho Nuff 720]

 

No, you said if Trump called therefore a convo between Manafort and Trump wouldn't be covered under FISA.

Then that was an error in my part. The article didnt suggest that.

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Then that was an error in my part. The article didnt suggest that.

 

Pay attention folks................Sho admitted he was wrong.

 

Isn't that one of the signs of the Mayan Apocalypse?

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40 on page 40

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He's being surveilled under a FISA warrant. The F stands for Foreign. Trump isn't a foreigner So yes, numbnuts, they are supposed to turn it off.

Lol this is hilarious. You think if an Arab terrorist in Kabul is talking to an American in NYC the Feds are supposed to turn it off?

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Lol this is hilarious. You think if an Arab terrorist in Kabul is talking to an American in NYC the Feds are supposed to turn it off?

Who thinks that? Clueless.

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Who thinks that? Clueless.

You do apparently see your above comment.

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Lol this is hilarious. You think if an Arab terrorist in Kabul is talking to an American in NYC the Feds are supposed to turn it off?

are Trump or manafort Arab terrorists in kabul ? Because that seems to be your point.

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are Trump or manafort Arab terrorists in kabul ? Because that seems to be your point.

FISA is for catching terrorists and spies. If you apply your rule to Trump because he's "an American" you have to apply it to all Americans.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

You do apparently see your above comment.

Ok special Ed, I'll splain it to you real slow. One of the parties has to be a foreigner. Mmmkay? If Mrs Manafort calls him up they don't get to listen in. Or on any other Citizen of the United States. Got it now? You would have to get a different type of warrant for that, not. a FISA.

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Ok special Ed, I'll splain it to you real slow. One of the parties has to be a foreigner. Mmmkay? If Mrs Manafort calls him up they don't get to listen in. Or on any other Citizen of the United States. Got it now? You would have to get a different type of warrant for that, not. a

 

That's the point. The only way that Trump was actually captured under the Fisa warrant is if he was involved in a call or discussion with a foreign spy under the warrant. If you or anyone else is claiming that Trump was caught on tape then that's how it must have happened. Are we claiming this happened or no?

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who cares ? What about trump ?

 

He is going to prison. HTH

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/21/james-clapper-its-possible-that-trumps-voice-was-picked-up-by-manafort-wiretap.html

 

"Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper suggested on Wednesday that "it's possible" that President Trump's voice was picked up in a wiretap as he spoke with his former campaign manager Paul Manafort.

"It's certainly conceivable," Clapper said on CNN.

When asked by host Don Lemon if it was likely, Clapper said he couldn't say, but again asserted that there is a chance.

"I wouldn't want to go there, but I will say it's possible," Clapper said."

Let's hear the spin on this one................

 

 

 

The only way this happens is if Manafort was on the line or in a meeting with a foreign spy/agent. Which we know Manafort was meeting with such people in Trump Tower in June 2016.

 

One way that would work is if Trump was on speaker phone during the meeting.

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He is going to prison. HTH

to visit Hillary and grab her pussay

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

Like a dog in heat they grab anything and hump it.

 

I'm not a regular politics poster here and I won't be a regular on the Geek board. I come to FFT for football. If Fernandez told me who to start at RB this week there's a pretty good chance I'd listen to him and say thank you for the free advice, and I'd appreciate it. His posts in general have always led me to believe he's a solid guy, no complaints here and to you too.

- But I have to say it's hard to find Trump supporters willing to talk about this stuff. And I find it odd that you give Sho such a hard time considering the trouble he goes through to explain stuff to you. What really gets me is how you actually sound to the far left of Sho.

 

This is what I hear:

• The US intelligence community - who protects us from terrorism, spying, foreign bad guys, corruption - are really untrustable and would do anything and everything illegal, even though by and large as a group they're pretty conservative.
• The US's cops, spies and diplomats should not be listening in on foreign agents speaking to Americans about bad things.

You realize how far left you sound? You're to the left of the ACLU and guys like Sanders and Kucinich. There's no explaining how a couple pretty much conservative, pro-Reagan sounding guys landed where you are. Except one reason, you have to do it to defend Trump.

 

What makes it even harder is you don't trust the MSM but then in a whole other thread you'll point to reporting from NYT and CNN as to why Trump was supposedly bugged. And I only say that because I realize we sound so different because you're reading from a whole different set of reporting than I am, and yet even that reporting you look at refers back to the MSM media anyway. I just want you guys to see the reasonableness of this POV. Lord knows you don't have to agree that Trump is guilty of anything but at least see the reasons why this is happening to him don't involve some sort of secret cabal to take him down under false pretenses.

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I'm not a regular politics poster here and I won't be a regular on the Geek board. I come to FFT for football. If Fernandez told me who to start at RB this week there's a pretty good chance I'd listen to him and say thank you for the free advice, and I'd appreciate it. His posts in general have always led me to believe he's a solid guy, no complaints here and to you too.

- But I have to say it's hard to find Trump supporters willing to talk about this stuff. And I find it odd that you give Sho such a hard time considering the trouble he goes through to explain stuff to you. What really gets me is how you actually sound to the far left of Sho.

 

This is what I hear:

 

• The US intelligence community - who protects us from terrorism, spying, foreign bad guys, corruption - are really untrustable and would do anything and everything illegal, even though by and large as a group they're pretty conservative.
• The US's cops, spies and diplomats should not be listening in on foreign agents speaking to Americans about bad things.

You realize how far left you sound? You're to the left of the ACLU and guys like Sanders and Kucinich. There's no explaining how a couple pretty much conservative, pro-Reagan sounding guys landed where you are. Except one reason, you have to do it to defend Trump.

I will need a link that states the American Intelligence Community is “by and large as a group they're pretty conservative“.

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If you think that that none of the unmasking was done for political purposes then I don't know what to say. And it also just happened to coincide with Obama loosening the protocols for the dissemination of classified information, in the last weeks of his term, post election. Why did he do it at that time, and not years earlier? He just thought of it on his way out the door?

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

I will need a link that states the American Intelligence Community is “by and large as a group they're pretty conservative“.

 

You think people who want to find, fight, kill and jail criminals, terrorists and spies as a life's mission are flaming liberals?

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If you think that that none of the unmasking was done for political purposes then I don't know what to say.

 

And it also just happened to coincide with Obama loosening the protocols for the dissemination of classified information, in the last weeks of his term, post election. Why did he do it at that time, and not years earlier? He just thought of it on his way out the door?

 

It's not a mystery. The thought was that Trump would come in and put a lock down on the intelligence about him, so it was disseminated. Obama's not an intelligence guy, that's something intelligence professionals do to protect information.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

 

You think people who want to find, fight, kill and jail criminals, terrorists and spies as a life's mission are flaming liberals?

You think the Obama administration hired and promoted conservatives? I suggest you read up on John Brennan and tell me where he lands on the liberal/ conservative scale. He was the guy in charge if you didn't know.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

 

It's not a mystery. The thought was that Trump would come in and put a lock down on the intelligence about him, so it was disseminated. Obama's not an intelligence guy, that's something intelligence professionals do to protect information.

Or they wanted the info they had gained from the unmasking to be leaked and difficult or near impossible to trace it back. Ever think that might be a possibility?

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You think the Obama administration hired and promoted conservatives? I suggest you read up on John Brennan and tell me where he lands on the liberal/ conservative scale. He was the guy in charge if you didn't know.

 

You mean in the general body of the community as opposed to the leadership? Yes, they did not have a choice. And the intelligence community is designed to keep politics separated from its inner workings. Yes, Rice is definitely obviously a liberal. But the others, the career guys? No.

 

As an example look at Mike Pompeo, head of the CIA. He's a career conservative and Republican, granted. However personally I think that in his job he puts politics aside as Director of the CIA. If he was political he never would have declared Wikileaks a Russian front, which he did.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

 

You mean in the general body of the community as opposed to the leadership? Yes, they did not have a choice. And the intelligence community is designed to keep politics separated from its inner workings. Yes, Rice is definitely obviously a liberal. But the others, teh career guys? No.

 

As an example look at Mike Pompeo, head of the CIA. He's a career conservative and Republican, granted. However personally I think that in his job he puts politics aside as Director of the CIA. If he was political he never would have declared Wikileaks a Russian front, which he did.

Brennan. The HDIC. Tell me bout him. He is career CIA.

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Good thing Saints is here so the same 7-8 ass hurt clowns can take a break from bickering with Sho to bicker with someone else all day.

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Or they wanted the info they had gained from the unmasking to be leaked and difficult or near impossible to trace it back. Ever think that might be a possibility?

 

Just to be clear, which leak are you speaking of? The Flynn information that came out? We know now that Yates brought that to McGahn. It was in the upper DOJ and the White House itself at that point.

 

But in general, I also don't think they had to disseminate it to leak it. These are some tough SOB's and if they want to nail someone they nail them, they've been doing it since Hoover and they did it to Nixon. If you want to do something like that you don't bring in some schmoe from the staff room.

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Brennan. The HDIC. Tell me bout him. He is career CIA.

 

He was Director of the National Counterterrorism Center. Finding and killing terrorists was his life. You want me to go on from there?

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Good thing Saints is here so the same 7-8 ass hurt clowns can take a break from bickering with Sho to bicker with someone else all day.

Someone needs to get to the bottom of this and who better than the geek club.

 

I know that talking about the same thing for months on end is boring to normal people, but we need these people.

 

 

God speed guys.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

 

He was Director of the National Counterterrorism Center. Finding and killing terrorists was his life. You want me to go on from there?

Yes. Or go back from there.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

It's not a mystery. The thought was that Trump would come in and put a lock down on the intelligence about him, so it was disseminated. Obama's not an intelligence guy, that's something intelligence professionals do to protect information.

 

You sound suspiciously like Slo Nutt now..........

 

This was to facilitate the leaks we saw; nothing more.

 

Brennan is one of the leakers FFS. So is Comey...........

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

 

You sound suspiciously like Slo Nutt now..........

 

This was to facilitate the leaks we saw; nothing more.

 

Brennan is one of the leakers FFS. So is Comey...........

 

If Brennan is a leaker then that would negate the need to disseminate the information to do that, as you and DrS suggested above.

 

As for Comey and his memo - I fully support him on that. He did the right thing, just like Mark Felt leaked about Nixon. - Trump fired Comey to stop the investigation, Comey told us what happened and now as a result of Trump's - truly - stupid decision we now have Mueller.

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I'm not going to kick this around all day. It's Friday, it's September, the beer will be flowing. Not to mention lunch is nigh.

 

I just want you Trump supporters to brace yourselves, and you seem like good guys and it concerns me, seriously, that you think ill things about our country, because IMO you probably think America is Great in your heart and you're patriotic, and I sense that.

 

But you need to brace yourselves:

 

- There are TWO grand juries. They are taking testimony and issuing subpoenas.

- Mueller is getting White House documents and he is interviewing White House personnel.

 

- Manafort will be indicted. That was Trump's campaign manager and the accusation is that Trump's campaign illegally coordinated with Russian intelligence services.

 

Prepare yourselves, that's all I'm saying, and when it happens don't blame anyone else but Trump.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

Good thing Saints is here so the same 7-8 ass hurt clowns can take a break from bickering with Sho to bicker with someone else all day.

Feeling left out? Reminds you of childhood I guess. You should start a thread about things you want to talk about. Form your own group, like in high school. I'll stop by and give you a verbal wedgie to give it an authentic feel.

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You think people who want to find, fight, kill and jail criminals, terrorists and spies as a life's mission are flaming liberals?

So you are talking out of your bigotry toward Conservatives and made that entire statement up! I never mentioned Liberals, you did.

 

Just what we need another socialist bigot!

[Baker Boy 1,703]

You sound suspiciously like Slo Nutt now..........

 

This was to facilitate the leaks we saw; nothing more.

 

Brennan is one of the leakers FFS. So is Comey...........

Yup, he makes statements out of his butt and cant back them up. I think we caught another Hagfish!

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What if it is found out that Trump did not help the Russians?

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What if it is found out that Trump helped the Brazilians, would that be so bad?

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

Nonsensical posts are kind of my specialty. It is lunch time, it is Friday. I am ready for the weekend.

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I am contributing as much to this thread as anyone else.

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I am contributing as much to this thread as anyone else.

 

Maybe even more!

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Trump should help the Ethiopians, they seem like they need more help than Trump.