Decades of sexual harassment accusations against Harvey Weinstein

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20 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The board righties seem to have a much different take on decades old accusations in this thread, than in other threads with similar accusations.  I'm not sure what the difference is between the two, just can put my finger on the key fact between the two stories that has caused such diametrically opposed reactions to these stories.    I wonder if this mystery will ever be solved.  

The difference between Harvey and Donald is that there's actual, you know, evidence against Harvey.  So far all we've got against Donald is a  bunch of accusations from when he was running for President from a bunch of unnamed chicks we haven't heard from since he won the election, and this new accusation by some nutjob who is putting out a book.  Yeah, there's a slight difference.  You used to actually be a reasonable poster but lately you're dropping to Newbie levels of trolling. 

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2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

The board righties seem to have a much different take on decades old accusations in this thread, than in other threads with similar accusations.  I'm not sure what the difference is between the two, just can put my finger on the key fact between the two stories that has caused such diametrically opposed reactions to these stories.    I wonder if this mystery will ever be solved.  

Weinstein has been busy writing massive checks to his victims and has been indicted if that clears things up for you. Probably not. 

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Weinstein has been busy writing massive checks to his victims and has been indicted if that means anything to you. 

Whereas Donald already wrote his checks? 

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2 hours ago, Strike said:

The difference between Harvey and Donald is that there's actual, you know, evidence against Harvey.  So far all we've got against Donald is a  bunch of accusations from when he was running for President from a bunch of unnamed chicks we haven't heard from since he won the election, and this new accusation by some nutjob who is putting out a book.  Yeah, there's a slight difference.  You used to actually be a reasonable poster but lately you're dropping to Newbie levels of trolling. 

Dude has always been a clown.

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1 minute ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Whereas Donald already wrote his checks? 

I wasn't aware Stormy accused him of rape. Link? 

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44 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I wasn't aware Stormy accused him of rape. Link? 

Oh, that is right.  He just pays them to keep quiet.  

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7 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Oh, that is right.  He just pays them to keep quiet.  

I'm not really sure what your point is.  Paying her to keep quiet may be morally reprehensible, although I suspect males have been doing that for a long time with their mistresses, but it's not a crime.  And is anyone surprised that Trump is morally reprehensible at this point?

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12 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Oh, that is right.  He just pays them to keep quiet.  

Not as much as Hillary and Bill did to his accusers. Not even close. But the Clintons actually got their friends to do it. One of them that received a pardon. But let's not dwell on the past, right? 

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7 minutes ago, Strike said:

I'm not really sure what your point is.  Paying her to keep quiet may be morally reprehensible, although I suspect males have been doing that for a long time with their mistresses, but it's not a crime.  And is anyone surprised that Trump is morally reprehensible at this point?

If Trump didn’t think the Stormy thing could have tipped the election he wouldn’t have paid her off.  

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Just now, MDC said:

If Trump didn’t think the Stormy thing could have tipped the election he wouldn’t have paid her off.  

You've cracked the case! Well done Sherlock! 

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

If Trump didn’t think the Stormy thing could have tipped the election he wouldn’t have paid her off.  

Hah!  Look at this guy and his fake moral outrage! 

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3 hours ago, Strike said:

 You used to actually be a reasonable poster but lately you're dropping to Newbie levels of trolling. 

This is the new term for 'fu--, the right just got owned again. These guys are really exposing our hypocrisy"

Take it as a compliment, Honcho. They hate being challenged. A sign of mental weakness.

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5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Hah!  Look at this guy and his fake moral outrage! 

Just responding to the claim that we all knew how morally reprehensible Trump was before the election, cuz. If that were true there would be no reason to pay Stormy off. Get it?

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18 minutes ago, Strike said:

I'm not really sure what your point is.  Paying her to keep quiet may be morally reprehensible, although I suspect males have been doing that for a long time with their mistresses, but it's not a crime.  And is anyone surprised that Trump is morally reprehensible at this point?

It was brought up that Harvey was busy with writing checks to his accusers. I was merely pointing out that Donald had also had his checkbook out (or at least his friend Cohen's checkbook).  I believe both men (and you can factor in quite a few others) are morally reprehensible if that helps. 

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When I used to support the Clintons I was well aware of how morally compromised and reprehensible (especially her) they  were. Same goes for Trump. But like them at the time, he's the better option of the choices now. 

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Just now, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

It was brought up that Harvey was busy with writing checks to his accusers. I was merely pointing out that Donald had also had his checkbook out (or at least his friend Cohen's checkbook).  I believe both men (and you can factor in quite a few others) are morally reprehensible if that helps. 

Only one is being criminally prosecuted.  When Trump has a history as documented below let me know.  Until then they're both dooshbags but not on a comparable level.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein_sexual_abuse_allegations

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4 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

It was brought up that Harvey was busy with writing checks to his accusers. I was merely pointing out that Donald had also had his checkbook out (or at least his friend Cohen's checkbook).  I believe both men (and you can factor in quite a few others) are morally reprehensible if that helps. 

And..... you left out the indicted part. Says a lot.  

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10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And..... you left out the indicted part. Says a lot.  

I did not want to go down the road of Trump being indicted.  It stirs up all sorts of emotions, so I only focused on the first part of your reference, which was the checks.  

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Just now, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

I did not want to go down the road of Trump being indicted.  It stirs up all sorts of emotions, so I only focused on the first part of your reference, which was the checks.  

Right. Much like you don't focus on the blacked out Patriot games when it's brought up their fans are disloyal and fair weather. 

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5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Right. Much like you don't focus on the blacked out Patriot games when it's brought up their fans are disloyal and fair weather. 

You mean when I keep pointing out that you are wrong every time you say that?  Blackouts haven't happened since the early 90's.  Get your facts straight.  Or don't, since I don't expect you to ever change.  

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1 minute ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

You mean when I keep pointing out that you are wrong every time you say that?  Blackouts haven't happened since the early 90's.  Get your facts straight.  Or don't, since I don't expect you to ever change.  

He won't. Facts mean nothing to Troubadouche

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7 minutes ago, The Observer said:

He won't. Facts mean nothing to Troubadouche

Like the facts you were disregarding here during deflategate? 

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10 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

You mean when I keep pointing out that you are wrong every time you say that?  Blackouts haven't happened since the early 90's.  Get your facts straight.  Or don't, since I don't expect you to ever change.  

Like the facts you, as well, were disregarding here during deflategate? Early 90's? Well they started winning during the mid 90's. Funny as hell! 

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10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like the facts you, as well, were disregarding here during deflategate? Early 90's? Well they started winning during the mid 90's. Funny as hell! 

Except you tell us that no one went to the Pats games until they won in 2001-2002.  You aren't really funny.  More sad than anything.

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1 minute ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Except you tell us that no one went to the Pats games until they won in 2001-2002.  You aren't really funny.  More sad than anything.

Blackouts never happened for many teams. Good times and bad. 

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18 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Except you tell us that no one went to the Pats games until they won in 2001-2002.  You aren't really funny.  More sad than anything.

When Troubadouche feels inferior, he'll pick certain lies out and just keep repeating them to make himself feel better.  I usually smile in a 'bless his heart' manner and continue to make him feel bad with reality.

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1 minute ago, The Observer said:

When Troubadouche feels inferior, he'll pick certain lies out and just keep repeating them to make himself feel better.  I usually smile in a 'bless his heart' manner and continue to make him feel bad with reality.

When did I lie? Are you claiming the Patriots never had blacked out games? I'm sure if I had some years wrong I copped to it. It's how I roll if I have bad info. But the point remains. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

When did I lie? Are you claiming the Patriots never had blacked out games? I'm sure if I had some years wrong I copped to it. It's how I roll if I have bad info. But the point remains. 

I just know your personality. You are jealous of the patriots success so you'll lie to make yourself feel better. You're jealous of me, so you make up stuff (apartment, Trans Am, etc) to make yourself feel better.  Everyone here knows you're a sad little man. We just play along hoping you get through each day.

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2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

I just know your personality. You are jealous of the patriots success so you'll lie to make yourself feel better. You're jealous of me, so you make up stuff (apartment, Trans Am, etc) to make yourself feel better.  Everyone here knows you're a sad little man. We just play along hoping you get through each day.

Nailed it! But the jealous thing is weird, considering the Giants succes vs them. And can we chalk up your stance during deflategate to jealousy too? You were pretty vocal back then. I recall a lot of "scumbags" and "Lying POS" or something similar being thrown around. Lol. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nailed it! But the jealous thing is weird, considering the Giants succes vs them. And can we chalk up your stance during deflategate to jealousy too? You were pretty vocal back then. I recall a lot of "scumbags" and "Lying POS" or something similar being thrown around. Lol. 

Difference between me and you (and maybe it's the macho NYC cop thing) I'm not afraid to admit when I'm envious. I'm the one who started the Gronk thread. Weird for a narcissist, no?  lol   I will gladly admit that I'm jealous of New England's success and hope the eagles enjoy something similar someday.  See?  Not that hard.

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6 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Difference between me and you (and maybe it's the macho NYC cop thing) I'm not afraid to admit when I'm envious. I'm the one who started the Gronk thread. Weird for a narcissist, no?  lol   I will gladly admit that I'm jealous of New England's success and hope the eagles enjoy something similar someday.  See?  Not that hard.

That wasn't exactly your stance back then. I don't feel like going to the wayback machine right now, so I'll let it stand for now. But nice backpedal, it may keep the numerous Pats fans around here from piling on. They like when people lay down like a bich. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

That wasn't exactly your stance back then. I don't feel like going to the wayback machine right now, so I'll let it stand for now. But nice backpedal, it may keep the numerous Pats fans around here from piling on. They like when people lay down like a bich. 

I hated the way Belichick cheated during spygate and deflategate.  My opinions today would mirror my opinions back then. Not sure what you're insinuating.  I suggest you do some searches tonight for old posts while you ignore your little kids.  Come prepared.

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Just now, The Observer said:

I hated the way Belichick cheated during spygate and deflategate.  My opinions today would mirror my opinions back then. Not sure what you're insinuating.  I suggest you do some searches tonight for old posts while you ignore your little kids.  Come prepared.

Don't worry, the Pats fans think you're ok now. They don't hurt the ones that lay down for them. Good boy.  Woof woof. 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Don't worry, the Pats fans think you're ok now. They don't hurt the ones that lay down for them. Good boy.  Woof woof. 

Have they cheated again since Deflategate?  Or should I just be a jealous whiny pussie like you every day?

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3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Have they cheated again since Deflategate?  Or should I just be a jealous whiny pussie like you every day?

Move over Rover, let Newbie take over!  Woof woof! 

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Blackouts never happened for many teams. Good times and bad. 

Bud...just stop. 

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So a (tentative) $25m settlement agreement has been reached on behalf of Harvey and his studio. If approved by a judge:

* H.W. will not have to pay anything personally.

* H.W. will not have to admit any wrongdoing/guilt.

So can we conclude:

* In the end, this wasn't about punishing Weinstein or seeking justice? 

* In the end, this was about standing up to sexual harassment/abuse - fighting for a cause?

* In the end "ME TOO" is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme front to cash in?

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/11/787306873/harvey-weinstein-reaches-tentative-25-million-deal-to-settle-sex-claims

 

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I'm pretty sure the TV told me this is just one big right wing conspiracy

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The takeaway is: the rich and powerful can still do whatever the fock they want.