iam90sbaby 2,129 Posted April 26, 2019 They aren’t monkeying around that’s for sure The 53-page bill, which passed by a 22-17margin, now goes to the Florida House of Representatives, the newspaper reported. It passed with a clause that included an expansion of the “Guardian” program created in 2018, the Tampa Bay Times reported. The program allows teachers to carry guns after completing psychological screening and at least 144 hours training from a sheriff’s office, according to the Sun-Sentinel. The bill includes other items aimed at beefing up school safety, including more reporting of school safety incidents, a standardized risk assessment process for dangerous students and brand-new guidelines on school-based mental health, the newspaper reported. https://www.fox23.com/news/trending-now/florida-senate-passes-bill-to-arm-teachers/942724902 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,042 Posted April 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: They aren’t monkeying around that’s for sure The 53-page bill, which passed by a 22-17margin, now goes to the Florida House of Representatives, the newspaper reported. It passed with a clause that included an expansion of the “Guardian” program created in 2018, the Tampa Bay Times reported. The program allows teachers to carry guns after completing psychological screening and at least 144 hours training from a sheriff’s office, according to the Sun-Sentinel. The bill includes other items aimed at beefing up school safety, including more reporting of school safety incidents, a standardized risk assessment process for dangerous students and brand-new guidelines on school-based mental health, the newspaper reported. https://www.fox23.com/news/trending-now/florida-senate-passes-bill-to-arm-teachers/942724902 That's 6 full days, I think that's more time than I spent studying my entire time in school. (which probably doesn't surprise anybody here) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted April 26, 2019 Not sure this is the best of ideas.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,545 Posted April 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: That's 6 full days, I think that's more time than I spent studying my entire time in school. (which probably doesn't surprise anybody here) This is silly. How many days do you think you need? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted April 26, 2019 I’m assuming this is a response to school shootings. What are the odds that an armed teacher is able to successfully stop an active shooting, vs. the chance that introducing a gun to the school leads to an accident? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,042 Posted April 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: This is silly. How many days do you think you need? Not that I'm pro-arming teachers and having guns in schools, but 8 hours training for a week is 40 hours is probably way more than enough training + passing some kind of competency test. Maybe 8 hour refresher re-certification every other year. At 144 hours, assuming 8 hour days-that's 18 days of training, that's would get pretty costly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,995 Posted April 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m assuming this is a response to school shootings. What are the odds that an armed teacher is able to successfully stop an active shooting, vs. the chance that introducing a gun to the school leads to an accident? I've addressed this in the past. There are actually school districts already doing this. Feel free to search for my previous posts on this question. In short, it's worked very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted April 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, Strike said: I've addressed this in the past. There are actually school districts already doing this. Feel free to search for my previous posts on this question. In short, it's worked very well. I am not going to dig around looking for your thoughts on arming teachers. I’m not necessarily against teachers who already have a concealed carry permit carrying on school grounds. The idea of encouraging teachers to get CC training specifically to stop school shootings is focking retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,995 Posted April 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, MDC said: I am not going to dig around looking for your thoughts on arming teachers. I’m not necessarily against teachers who already have a concealed carry permit carrying on school grounds. The idea of encouraging teachers to get CC training specifically to stop school shootings is focking retarded. I didn't post thoughts on arming teachers. I posted links to articles regarding school districts that already did so, and how they had fared in doing so. But I'm sure things like "facts" get in the way of your narrative so I can see why you wouldn't want to read such data. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,042 Posted April 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Strike said: I didn't post thoughts on arming teachers. I posted links to articles regarding school districts that already did so, and how they had fared in doing so. But I'm sure things like "facts" get in the way of your narrative so I can see why you wouldn't want to read such data. Gotta love I proved that once in a link somewhere, sometime on a board with a few million posts, go find it. For fun a I did a search for 'teachers AND guns" by author strike and came across found this exchange. On 3/13/2018 at 6:09 PM, Strike said: All the school districts where teachers are already carrying guns disagree with you. You people act like there aren't already teachers packing. There are. And everything I've read, some of which I've posted links to here, suggests it does in fact make the schools safer. On 3/13/2018 at 6:15 PM, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Just provide those links and we can decide for ourselves. TIA On 3/13/2018 at 6:16 PM, Strike said: I already did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted April 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, Strike said: I didn't post thoughts on arming teachers. I posted links to articles regarding school districts that already did so, and how they had fared in doing so. But I'm sure things like "facts" get in the way of your narrative so I can see why you wouldn't want to read such data. I’d be happy to read it if you want to take a break from being a little twat and post a link or something. But I’m not going to go digging through your archive to find it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted April 26, 2019 Why does Florida hire teachers with no arms? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted April 26, 2019 And yet Still illegal to CC in the meeting they had this vote in Irony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,129 Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, bandrus1 said: And yet Still illegal to CC in the meeting they had this vote in Irony I’m not seeing the irony? Can you link me to the article of one of these meetings getting shot up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 476 Posted April 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: That's 6 full days, I think that's more time than I spent studying my entire time in school. (which probably doesn't surprise anybody here) We are just impressed that you lasted six days in school, Mike. Props. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 476 Posted April 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Why does Florida hire teachers with no arms? Somebody said: Who wants a job, and somebody raised their foot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,180 Posted April 27, 2019 8 hours ago, MDC said: I’m assuming this is a response to school shootings. What are the odds that an armed teacher is able to successfully stop an active shooting, vs. the chance that introducing a gun to the school leads to an accident? Do you know that answer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,737 Posted April 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Do you know that answer? He is all knowing , just ask him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted April 27, 2019 3 hours ago, shorepatrol said: He is all knowing , just ask him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,649 Posted April 27, 2019 I think we could save a lot of toner on our phones if we waited to have these threads until the actual law is passed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted April 27, 2019 Many cops shouldn't have guns. Now we want to give them to teachers? Count me out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,180 Posted April 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Alias Detective said: Do you know that answer? 7 hours ago, shorepatrol said: He is all knowing , just ask him Um, I did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites