Tucker Carlson Thread

[RLLD 4,230]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What confuses you? 

He is really just another opinion guy, sure he was popular, but he is only different from a Maddow, Lemon or Reid in terms of what propoganda he was selling.  I have no doubt he will move on and do his thing, it will hurt Fox in the short term for sure, and they may never fully recover.

Oh well, still need to read and listen to multuple sources of information, distill their respective lies and arrive at a conclusion based on simple reasoning. 

[Mr Fantasy 67]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

He is really just another opinion guy, sure he was popular, but he is only different from a Maddow, Lemon or Reid in terms of what propoganda he was selling. 

It seemed to be he wasnt following the fox flavor of propaganda and that became problematic 

[RLLD 4,230]

9 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

It seemed to be he wasnt following the fox flavor of propaganda and that became problematic 

OK.

And then you have Lemon who was simply a racist-mysogynist who stopped hiding it, so he gets canned.

These people trot themselves out as enlighted and holier than thou, but they are not. We should not think of them in that way either. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

13 minutes ago, RLLD said:

He is really just another opinion guy, sure he was popular, but he is only different from a Maddow, Lemon or Reid in terms of what propoganda he was selling.  I have no doubt he will move on and do his thing, it will hurt Fox in the short term for sure, and they may never fully recover.

Oh well, still need to read and listen to multuple sources of information, distill their respective lies and arrive at a conclusion based on simple reasoning. 

It’s so amusing to me. You can read complaint after complaint about the uniparty around here, and the one prominent voice that actually went after it, gets lumped in with the partisan hacks. Some people have settled on a position and they aren’t going to move off of it no matter what actually happens. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

OK.

And then you have Lemon who was simply a racist-mysogynist who stopped hiding it, so he gets canned.

These people trot themselves out as enlighted and holier than thou, but they are not. We should not think of them in that way either. 

Not looking for anyone to be holier than though. No one is and no one is 100 pct honest. But I’ll take the ones that come close. And there are very few, and most of them are former darlings of the left, who have now been steamrolled. 

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Not looking for anyone to be holier than though. No one is and no one is 100 pct honest. But I’ll take the ones that come close. And there are very few, and most of them are former darlings of the left. 

To be fair, if we look back over time, Tucker was certainly correct more than he was wrong.  And this was true for Fox overall.  But I suggest that is more an outcome of the bad behaviors of Demcorats.

Democrats BECAME the caricatured version that Fox was selling.  It was hilarious.

[thegeneral 3,209]

Still talking about this sloppy cunnt I see.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

To be fair, if we look back over time, Tucker was certainly correct more than he was wrong.  And this was true for Fox overall.  But I suggest that is more an outcome of the bad behaviors of Demcorats.

Democrats BECAME the caricatured version that Fox was selling.  It was hilarious.

The one thing the uniparty always comes together on is war. There was one prominent voice speaking out against the current one. A hack  like Hannity and others will throw out bromides about oversight of the money, but not the actual reason why we are in it and if we should be. He stays. The other guy goes. 

[thegeneral 3,209]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The one thing the uniparty always comes together on is war. There was one prominent voice speaking out against the current one. A hack  like Hannity and others will throw out bromides about oversight of the money, but not the actual reason why we are in it and if we should be. He stays. The other guy goes. 

What is the actual reason there is a war in Ukraine?

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17 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

What is the actual reason there is a war in Ukraine?

Cause we overthrew the previous regime and inserted our shadow govt 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

25 minutes ago, RLLD said:

To be fair, if we look back over time, Tucker was certainly correct more than he was wrong.  And this was true for Fox overall.  But I suggest that is more an outcome of the bad behaviors of Demcorats.

Democrats BECAME the caricatured version that Fox was selling.  It was hilarious.

 

What's telling of the pathology of the radical left is how they instantly switch narratives in order to hunt the "bigger fish" 

None of the radical leftists who compliment Liz Cheney would vote for her in a general election. Zero. And before Trump came onto the scene, she would have been roasted and vilified like all the other Republicans. But once she was anti-Trump, for her own scarcely disguised bid to be a POTUS contender herself, suddenly she was treated like a hero of the Republic. 

Right now, there are some radical leftists who will actually try to boost Tucker Carlson, despite hating him before, because it's in their interests to go after the bigger fish in denouncing Fox  News. 

The majority of Democrats I know in real life are OK people. Some are great people, but I don't see eye to eye with them on public policy and public administration issues. 

But I've never met a radical leftist that I liked before. Or respected. Or trusted. Or would turn my back on for even a split second. 

No one really is too bothered by a traditional liberal like Bill Maher. In fact, Democrats like that sometimes have pretty interesting perspectives. But the blue haired furry tree hugging SJW that keeps shouting at everyone is more likely to get the attention and notice. 

I don't believe all Democrats are caricatures. I do believe the radical left freak show version of Democrats, the fringe extremists ( and yes even some of those are disguised as 'establishment Democrats') are the complete and total caricatures that you are talking about. And people watch them the same way that people watch animals at the zoo. 

For the record, I only watched Carlson a few times. I don't enjoy his show or format. I do enjoy The Five. 

Here's the thing no one wants to talk about. The radical left and a lot of Democrats in general want to denounce Fox News as 100 percent propaganda. However why do you even need to do that? As you pointed out here, the current Democratic Party and the Biden Administration and the radical left are clear disaster zones. You don't need propaganda to denounce them, you just need to provide the information and context and let people decide for themselves. That's what happens on The Five. The liberal panelists like Jessica Tarlov, Harold Ford Jr and Geraldo Rivera often have nothing they can say to defend Team Blue. 

You don't need propaganda if you are covering a total disaster zone. You just need to provide the context and information. So, in that regard, someone like Carlson often had the easiest job in the entire world. Gregory Foreman of Black Conservative Perspective has also pointed out that out several times on his platform - That he doesn't need to dig to find new material to upload, that Biden, Harris, the DNC and the rest keep doing so much stupid s##t, that the headlines literally write themselves. And that he doesn't even need to take a partisan approach, he just needs to point out the stupidity of what's going on. 

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[thegeneral 3,209]

25 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Cause we overthrew the previous regime and inserted our shadow govt 

So we lured Russia to attack Ukraine to prop up the military-industrial complex? 

[thegeneral 3,209]

13 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

 

Cunnty face Carlson!

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

If you use the C word to describe your female supervisor or boss you’re gonna get fired in any large company or corporation in this country, period. 

I don’t think this has anything to do with January 6, or the “establishment media”, or any of the other conspiracy theories. I don’t think it had anything to do with Dominion (except for revealing  what he wrote). I don’t think liberals should celebrate because Tucker wasn’t fired for his on air political views, no matter how obnoxious those views are to many of us. 

It’s a lot simpler than all that. He was fired for being a jerk. 

[thegeneral 3,209]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you use the C word to describe your female supervisor or boss you’re gonna get fired in any large company or corporation in this country, period. 

I don’t think this has anything to do with January 6, or the “establishment media”, or any of the other conspiracy theories. I don’t think it had anything to do with Dominion (except for revealing  what he wrote). I don’t think liberals should celebrate because Tucker wasn’t fired for his on air political views, no matter how obnoxious those views are to many of us. 

It’s a lot simpler than all that. He was fired for being a jerk. 

We have no clue why he was shetcanned. I wouldn’t buy any of these “reports”. This is Rupert Murdoch’s company after all, think he’s kind of adept at manipulating stories.

I don’t know about celebrating, but a loudmouth carnival barker getting fired in this manner is kind of funny / entertaining. Cable news def has a WWE vibe. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

Joe Rogan, Tucker, Tim Pool, Russell Brand, Elon Musk, Glenn Greenwald, Gad Saad, ect.  
 

These are not Republicans or Democrats.  They are the only people left asking the right questions.  And people hate them for it.  

They are all guys trying to sell you their product. 

They are also guys who have clear bias in what they are saying even if they invite on the opposing side to talk. 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

Hasn't Fox survived sex scandals by the owner or GM, the firing of Bill O'Rielly, and law suits by Megan Kelly and Gretchen Carlson as they went out the door? Wasn't Glen Beck one of theirs for a time?

 

Seems to me the formula is not dependant on the personalities.  I don't know as I don't watch Fox except on election nights where I really enjoy switching back and forth betwseen them, CNN and MSNBC as the contrast is wonderful. It just seems to me that individuals who leave, no matter their popularity, don't effect the network.  of course maybe the network takes a major hit each time and i am simply unaware as it does not effect my life.

 

My main exposure to Fox is when folks post clips here and elsewhere.  The same is true of the View.  I have never watched it as broadcast, but I have had a fair amount of exposure due to posted and linked clips.

[thegeneral 3,209]

13 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Hasn't Fox survived sex scandals by the owner or GM, the firing of Bill O'Rielly, and law suits by Megan Kelly and Gretchen Carlson as they went out the door? Wasn't Glen Beck one of theirs for a time?

 

Seems to me the formula is not dependant on the personalities.  I don't know as I don't watch Fox except on election nights where I really enjoy switching back and forth betwseen them, CNN and MSNBC as the contrast is wonderful. It just seems to me that individuals who leave, no matter their popularity, don't effect the network.  of course maybe the network takes a major hit each time and i am simply unaware as it does not effect my life.

 

My main exposure to Fox is when folks postm clips here and elsewhere.  The same is true of the View.  I have never watched it as broadcast, but I have had a fair amount of exposure due to posted and linked clips.

Fox will have their next new screamer on in a couple months. If they can’t bring it they just keep rotating them in. They’ll eventually find one that sticks. They’ll be fine relative to other cable news.

I did notice Tuck’s numbers were way below what O’Reilly had when that creep was shoved out the door. 

Way too much competition now.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

55 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

They are all guys trying to sell you their product. 

They are also guys who have clear bias in what they are saying even if they invite on the opposing side to talk. 

so the guy who thinks he knows everything has no place to list that has information, yet bashes every single alternative to cable news

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

So we lured Russia to attack Ukraine to prop up the military-industrial complex? 

no we wanted our teeth in Ukraine, and we got it, and it pissed off Russia when we overthrew the previous regime which would work with Russia over the US

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

Some members of the progressive left have expressed admiration for Tucker Carlson’s populist, anti free trade and anti-corporate establishment message, while still despising his nativism, 

this doesn’t surprise me. The radical left in this country, led by Bernie Sanders and AOC, have long been opposed to globalism and free trade. They supported Trump’s tariffs and have successfully pressured Biden not to get rid of most of them. Of course they hate the nativism and white supremacy stuff. What they don’t seem to realize is that the two are inevitably linked. Tariffs and white supremacy, anti-globalism and racism all go hand and hand. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

44 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so the guy who thinks he knows everything has no place to list that has information, yet bashes every single alternative to cable news

Hope you feel better after vomiting this into existence.

 

[jonmx 2,429]

27 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Some members of the progressive left have expressed admiration for Tucker Carlson’s populist, anti free trade and anti-corporate establishment message, while still despising his nativism, 

this doesn’t surprise me. The radical left in this country, led by Bernie Sanders and AOC, have long been opposed to globalism and free trade. They supported Trump’s tariffs and have successfully pressured Biden not to get rid of most of them. Of course they hate the nativism and white supremacy stuff. What they don’t seem to realize is that the two are inevitably linked. Tariffs and white supremacy, anti-globalism and racism all go hand and hand. 

White supremacy?.....GTFO.  I am so sick of leftists.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Hope you feel better after vomiting this into existence.

 

Thanks know it all yet have no sources 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Some members of the progressive left have expressed admiration for Tucker Carlson’s populist, anti free trade and anti-corporate establishment message, while still despising his nativism, 

this doesn’t surprise me. The radical left in this country, led by Bernie Sanders and AOC, have long been opposed to globalism and free trade. They supported Trump’s tariffs and have successfully pressured Biden not to get rid of most of them. Of course they hate the nativism and white supremacy stuff. What they don’t seem to realize is that the two are inevitably linked. Tariffs and white supremacy, anti-globalism and racism all go hand and hand. 

Why do you want globalism? When we can’t even help the people in this country. You realize globalism is nothing more than a ploy to take more of our money and give it to sh1thole countries that couldn’t give a flying fock about the US

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Why do you want globalism? When we can’t even help the people in this country. You realize globalism is nothing more than a ploy to take more of our money and give it to sh1thole countries that couldn’t give a flying fock about the US

I want globalism because I think it will benefit us here by creating consumers for our products all around the globe. I also believe it will eventually lead to a greater chance for peace and better human rights for all as it brings prosperity around the globe. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I want globalism because I think it will benefit us here by creating consumers for our products all around the globe. I also believe it will eventually lead to a greater chance for peace and better human rights for all as it brings prosperity around the globe. 

thats sweet, religion will never allow that

peace is not ever achievable.  Capitalism is the best thing that can occur for prosperity and human rights, but I am sure you got your nikes on

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I want globalism because I think it will benefit us here by creating consumers for our products all around the globe. I also believe it will eventually lead to a greater chance for peace and better human rights for all as it brings prosperity around the globe. 

My daddy came on the Ohio works

When he came home from World War Two

Now they yards just scrap and rubble 

He said them big boys did what Hitler couldn’t do.  

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

thats sweet, religion will never allow that

peace is not ever achievable.  Capitalism is the best thing that can occur for prosperity and human rights, but I am sure you got your nikes on

 

I agree with you about capitalism. Globalism means free trade which is the ultimate form of capitalism. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

I agree with you about capitalism. Globalism means free trade which is the ultimate form of capitalism. 

right just like NATO means everyone works together

and globalism does not mean free trade, because there is no such thing as free trade, we have been being raped for decades by tarrifs

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

These mills they built the tanks and bombs that won this countries wars

We sent our sons to Korea and Vietnam 

Now we wonder what they were dying for

Here in Youngstown. 

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

My daddy came on the Ohio works

When he came home from World War Two

Now they yards just scrap and rubble 

He said them big boys did what Hitler couldn’t do.  

And the railroads killed the steamship industry. And the automobile killed the horse industry. 
 

Technological advancement kills older industries. But there’s no going back. As the rust belt weakens, other industries prosper. Eventually nuclear fusion will put all oil, coal and solar workers out of a job. But we will still be better off. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Thanks know it all yet have no sources 

I read the AP and Reuters.

You watch people who give you opinion disguised as fact.

Makes it crystal clear. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

From the Monongahlea valley

To the Masabi iron range 

From the coal mines of Appalachia 

The stories always the same. 
 

700 tons of metal a day now you tell me the worlds changed 

Once I made you rich enough. Rich enough to forget my name. 
 

Here in Youngstown. 

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

right just like NATO means everyone works together

and globalism does not mean free trade, because there is no such thing as free trade, we have been being raped for decades by tarrifs

 

The point is to lower tariffs not raise them. That was the key behind NAFTA which was terrific for our economy. That was the key behind Obama’s Trans Pacific Partnership which also would have been a boon for us, provided a true answer to China, but was stopped by a coalition of conservatives and radical leftists. Then Trump came along and made everything worse by scrapping NAFTA and imposing ridiculous tariffs on China. We will be paying the price for years for that disaster. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,424]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And the railroads killed the steamship industry. And the automobile killed the horse industry. 
 

Technological advancement kills older industries. But there’s no going back. As the rust belt weakens, other industries prosper. Eventually nuclear fusion will put all oil, coal and solar workers out of a job. But we will still be better off. 

Sure. We don’t use steel anymore? Are you telling me that’s been replaced? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I read the AP and Reuters.

You watch people who give you opinion disguised as fact.

Makes it crystal clear. 

I read AP and Reuters, I watch podcasts from 6 other people all over the spectrum

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The point is to lower tariffs not raise them. That was the key behind NAFTA which was terrific for our economy. That was the key behind Obama’s Trans Pacific Partnership which also would have been a boon for us, provided a true answer to China, but was stopped by a coalition of conservatives and radical leftists. Then Trump came along and made everything worse by scrapping NAFTA and imposing ridiculous tariffs on China. We will be paying the price for years for that disaster. 

lol, get your mouth off Obama's c0ck for a second, NAFTA screwed the US, just like EVERY single deal Obama got us into

 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I read AP and Reuters, I watch podcasts from 6 other people all over the spectrum

So opinion disguised as fact...and you seem to only buy what one side is selling.