California bans bacon

[JustinCharge 2,397]

i guess restauraunts can only purchase ethically sourced bacon, and almost none in the US pork industry comply with new California regulations.  So bacon is about to disappear in California.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bacon-may-disappear-california-pig-141827828.html

At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 that requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules. Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa, and pork producers will face higher costs to regain a key market.

SCOTT McFETRIDGE

Sat, July 31, 2021, 7:18 AM

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Thanks to a reworked menu and long hours, Jeannie Kim managed to keep her San Francisco restaurant alive during the coronavirus pandemic.

That makes it all the more frustrating that she fears her breakfast-focused diner could be ruined within months by new rules that could make one of her top menu items — bacon — hard to get in California.

“Our number one seller is bacon, eggs and hash browns,” said Kim, who for 15 years has run SAMS American Eatery on the city’s busy Market Street. “It could be devastating for us.”

At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 that requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules. Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa, and pork producers will face higher costs to regain a key market.

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Animal welfare organizations for years have been pushing for more humane treatment of farm animals but the California rules could be a rare case of consumers clearly paying a price for their beliefs. 

With little time left to build new facilities, inseminate sows and process the offspring by January, it’s hard to see how the pork industry can adequately supply California, which consumes roughly 15% of all pork produced in the country.

“We are very concerned about the potential supply impacts and therefore cost increases,” said Matt Sutton, the public policy director for the California Restaurant Association.

California's restaurants and groceries use about 255 million pounds of pork a month, but its farms produce only 45 million pounds, according to Rabobank, a global food and agriculture financial services company. 

The National Pork Producers Council has asked the U.S. Department of Agriculture for federal aid to help pay for retrofitting hog facilities around the nation to fill the gap. Hog farmers said they haven't complied because of the cost and because California hasn't yet issued formal regulations on how the new standards will be administered and enforced. 

Barry Goodwin, an economist at North Carolina State University, estimated the extra costs at 15% more per animal for a farm with 1,000 breeding pigs.

If half the pork supply was suddenly lost in California, bacon prices would jump 60%, meaning a $6 package would rise to about $9.60, according to a study by the Hatamiya Group, a consulting firm hired by opponents of the state proposition.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

All about focking Joe Average. The libs favorite pastime.

[Utilit99 4,099]

Bacon will cost $50 a pound there if there is any.

[Bier Meister 1,655]

We saw this with Chicken, eggs, and veal... there was a shortage, price hike, then it stabilized (mostly)

[Hardcore troubadour 14,903]

Fishtown is still safe, thanks god. 

[Cdub100 3,824]

Hahahahahah 

[Mike Honcho 5,080]

What happened to "let people govern themselves' geeks?  

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At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

16 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

What happened to "let people govern themselves' geeks?  

 

Nothing wrong with it. I think people here are just laughing at them more than anything. 

If all the liberals in this country lived in california, all the smart people would be fine with their focked up view on life as long as it stays in california and doesn't impact the conservative approach in the rest of the country. Problem is, those focking dumb ass  liberals are streaming out into the sane areas of the country and trying to fock them up too.

[Djgb13 2,339]

2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Nothing wrong with it. I think people here are just laughing at them more than anything. 

If all the liberals in this country lived in california, all the smart people would be fine with their focked up view on life as long as it stays in california and doesn't impact the conservative approach in the rest of the country. Problem is, those focking dumb ass  liberals are streaming out into the sane areas of the country and trying to fock them up too.

This. The problem is liberals leave and want to change EVERYWHERE to how they want it. Instead of leaving other states alone and letting them govern themselves liberals try to force it on them 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

41 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

What happened to "let people govern themselves' geeks? 

The problem is when people willingly vote in a dictatorship.  You can vote one in, but you have to fight your way out.

[Cdub100 3,824]

You'll eat bugs and you'll be happy.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

What happened to "let people govern themselves' geeks?  

 

Typical lib feel good referendum that is really a stepping stone to exactly what's happening.  

[Big Guy 1,410]

these people just suck

[KSB2424 3,148]

4 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

What happened to "let people govern themselves' geeks?  

 

It's a great point.  I just wish these weirdos from liberal states would stop moving to mine.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Bacon is now banned in california as of january 1st unless the pigs are raised in “humane” ways as dictated by 2018s prop 12.   Unfortunately, the california state legislature never fully set down the rules regarding this.   So no pork producer knows what is legal or illegal.  Pigs raised in 2021 are exempt from the new law, which in theory might give california 6 months to figure this out - - unless there is a panic run on bacon before that.  Some producers have decided to simply not sell bacon to california shops anymore.  Others are going ahead and will sue the state for not providing clear guidance. At any rate, prices are ok for now but market forces can send them to the moon at any time.  
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfchronicle.com/food/amp/California-s-Prop-12-hasn-t-resulted-in-a-16771372.php

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

I love to swine. 

[NorthernVike 2,083]

The price of bacon should come down for the rest of us. 

[Bier Meister 1,655]

5 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Bacon is now banned in california as of january 1st unless the pigs are raised in “humane” ways as dictated by 2018s prop 12.   Unfortunately, the california state legislature never fully set down the rules regarding this.   So no pork producer knows what is legal or illegal.  Pigs raised in 2021 are exempt from the new law, which in theory might give california 6 months to figure this out - - unless there is a panic run on bacon before that.  Some producers have decided to simply not sell bacon to california shops anymore.  Others are going ahead and will sue the state for not providing clear guidance. At any rate, prices are ok for now but market forces can send them to the moon at any time.  
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfchronicle.com/food/amp/California-s-Prop-12-hasn-t-resulted-in-a-16771372.php

 

California compliant pens are built with more coming. Prices are stable despite a shortage of raw products.  Many restaurants are temporarily moving to precooked bacon and sausage 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Whole Hog.  Low and Slow. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

California 

Wait....

[GobbleDog 976]

Another reason why voters should not be deciding on constitutional amendments.  In the first place, ya shouldn't monkey around with the constitution every time ya want to create a new law. If a new law is needed then the politicians should pass them. Can you imagine the Federal Constitution being amended every time a new law is passed?  That'd be ridiculous. Same at the state level.

Second of all, the average voter is too incompetent to analyze and understand all the ramifications of a new law. That's what elected politicians are paid to do. Yet, every year there's state amendments given to average voters to decide. People read the about the new amendment and play pretend politician. And all they get to make these highly impactful laws is a short little paragraph. "This Amendment requires pigs to be treated humanely."  Well who isn't against that?  But what exactly defines "humane" and what are the potential repercussions of such a law? How will it effect local farmers, economy, prices, etc. Voters haven't a clue.

The real reason most of these amendments are put to the average voter is because the politicians are too chicken sh*t to vote themselves on divisive issues. So they let the voters hang themselves and say "well, the voters decided that."

As a rule, I vote no on all amendments.

[5-Points 3,385]

Still in the case at the butcher shop.

[Djgb13 2,339]

I’ll enjoy my freedom and bacon here in SC