Ukraine - Doomsday

[porkbutt 893]

38 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

So our board communists and dictator lovers are:

porkbutt

Big Guy

Cbdub

 

no. im just not sure i can align with transvestite dancing

[DonS 3,292]

11 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yeah, he was one of the co-conspirators of Operation Valkyrie-the plot to assassinate Hitler.  

Operation Valkyrie.  Thx.  That was driving me nuts.

[MDC 7,505]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

You think its not possible 

Putin isn’t going to invade an EU member state. GTFO.

[RLLD 4,254]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Putin isn’t going to invade an EU member state. GTFO.

I guess the move to put troops there to protect them is just stupidity on the part of the leaders doing so  

Maybe

Or maybe not, I wonder if there is a precedent in history where people did not believe someone would invade such as you have noted....I wonder....

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

 

16 minutes ago, porkbutt said:

no. im just not sure i can align with transvestite dancing

He's not a tranny. He used to be a professional comedian and had his own show. 

[Mike Honcho 5,299]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I guess the move to put troops there to protect them is just stupidity on the part of the leaders doing so  

Maybe

Or maybe not, I wonder if there is a precedent in history where people did not believe someone would invade such as you have noted....I wonder....

I'd say I'm 90% sure Putin wouldn't invade Putin, but that leaves a good 10% of me that thinks, yup, that mad man could conceivably do that.  Gotta side with RLLD on the this, never say never with Putin.

[MDC 7,505]

12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I guess the move to put troops there to protect them is just stupidity on the part of the leaders doing so  

Maybe

Or maybe not, I wonder if there is a precedent in history where people did not believe someone would invade such as you have noted....I wonder....

Literally Hitler.

Global interventionists love dimwits.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

21 minutes ago, MDC said:

Putin isn’t going to invade an EU member state. GTFO.

Neither are the corrupt globalists who have been using Ukraine as a EU-free haven.  In that respect we all have benefitted from this. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Globalists, including the US, kicked Putins guy out of Ukraine and turned it into a piggy bank. Convinced them to join NATO. Now they are being overrun and NATO is on the sidelines. 

[Mike Honcho 5,299]

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

Literally Hitler.

Global interventionists love dimwits.

While I disagree with your certainty that "Putin isn’t going to invade an EU member state. GTFO", I am amused that people give more credence to Putin invading Poland than they do that he meddled in US elections.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, Mike Honcho said:

While I disagree with your certainty that "Putin isn’t going to invade an EU member state. GTFO", I am amused that people give more credence to Putin invading Poland than they do that he meddled in US elections.  

Which elections? 

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3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Globalists, including the US, kicked Putins guy out of Ukraine and turned it into a piggy bank. Convinced them to join NATO. Now they are being overrun and NATO is on the sidelines. 

Ukraine never joined NATO.

While you guys fight over US/Globalists vs Russia, let's not forget about the people in the Ukraine.  These people want freedom, they want to join the EU, and now they are getting killed for it, by a guy that wants to control them.

[Mike Honcho 5,299]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Which elections? 

And proving my point.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

While I disagree with your certainty that "Putin isn’t going to invade an EU member state. GTFO", I am amused that people give more credence to Putin invading Poland than they do that he meddled in US elections.  

He must have meddled in 2020 so trump would lose and he could invade 

[MDC 7,505]

4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Neither are the corrupt globalists who have been using Ukraine as a EU-free haven.  In that respect we all have benefitted from this. 

The corrupt globalists helped engineer this conflict through NATO and now they’d like you to think Putin = Hitler to justify military intervention. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Globalists, including the US, kicked Putins guy out of Ukraine and turned it into a piggy bank. Convinced them to join NATO. Now they are being overrun and NATO is on the sidelines. 

OMG, Ukraine isn't a NATO member!!!!!

A lot of this conflict is about Putin and Russia not wanting them to join NATO, which is anything but on the sidelines because for the first time in its history it's sending troops into neighboring countries. 

[RLLD 4,254]

20 minutes ago, MDC said:

Literally Hitler.

Global interventionists love dimwits.

Your knowledge of history is only limited to Hitler it would seem. Well, god bless leftist education eh 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

6 minutes ago, vomit said:

Ukraine never joined NATO.

While you guys fight over US/Globalists vs Russia, let's not forget about the people in the Ukraine.  These people want freedom, they want to join the EU, and now they are getting killed for it, by a guy that wants to control them.

You're SOOOO close.  Think about this, they have been denied the EU for years and NOT by Putin.  And if they were in the EU, Putin wouldn't be there.  All of this could have been avoided, but for......

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

14 minutes ago, vomit said:

Ukraine never joined NATO.

While you guys fight over US/Globalists vs Russia, let's not forget about the people in the Ukraine.  These people want freedom, they want to join the EU, and now they are getting killed for it, by a guy that wants to control them.

Yeah I know, never said they did. They applied. That was just as good as joining. 

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4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

You're SOOOO close.  Think about this, they have been denied the EU for years and NOT by Putin.  And if they were in the EU, Putin wouldn't be there.  All of this could have been avoided, but for......

Why did you stop posting and go with "....."

You're saying that "someone" denied the Ukraine entry into the EU?  What could have avoided this whole thing?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

15 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

And proving my point.  

I didn’t say he didn’t. I only asked which ones, and you deflected. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah I know, never said they did. They applied. That was just as good as joining. 

They didn't formally apply until yesterday, and no, applying for something is not the same as being accepted.

Here is some history in case you want to learn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–European_Union_relations

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

Why did you stop posting and go with "....."

You're saying that "someone" denied the Ukraine entry into the EU?  What could have avoided this whole thing?

So now it’s  about joining the EU and not NATO. Lol. Putin does most of his business with the EU, in case you didn’t know that. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

More people killed in attack on TV tower.

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1498708271930261504?s=20&t=6MJOCTsMQSwB9V3tUm8xKA

[Casual Observer 597]

I have to say, for the beginning of WWIII, the Russians seems pretty restrained.  Otherwise we'd see all kinds of photos of dead bodies strewn about, destroyed civilian buildings, etc.

Anyway, did anyone ever determine which side Soros is backing?

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

So now it’s  about joining the EU and not NATO. Lol. 

I don't know who you are laughing at, but its always been about the Ukraine's path to the EU AND NATO, and away from Russia control.

[Casual Observer 597]

42 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

 

He's not a tranny. He used to be a professional comedian and had his own show. 

Is this supposed to be a news report?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

They didn't formally apply until yesterday, and no, applying for something is not the same as being accepted.

Here is some history in case you want to learn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–European_Union_relations

They wanted to join NATO. Everyone knows this. Stop with the nonsense.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

I don't know who you are laughing at, but its always been about the Ukraine's path to the EU AND NATO, and away from Russia control.

Always? They had a pro Putin president in 2014 till we ran him out. Guess what? No war way back then. He left and Putin made his move. 

[RLLD 4,254]

10 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

You're SOOOO close.  Think about this, they have been denied the EU for years and NOT by Putin.  And if they were in the EU, Putin wouldn't be there.  All of this could have been avoided, but for......

I believe the reason for not allowing entry was to avoid taunting Putin.  Putin wanted Ukraine to at least be a puppet to Russia, but they bounced his puppet and were going down the road toward a free society, he cannot allow that on his door step.

It was smart of the EU to not allow them entry, it was dumb for Ukraine to ask.  The mart move would be to accept that you are the "tweener" between two rather large powers. And balance your place between them.

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3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They wanted to join NATO. Everyone knows this. Stop with the nonsense.  

Huh?  Yes I know they wanted to join NATO, I never said they didn't.  I was just correcting you when you said they already joined, because they didn't.  You're wrong, own it bud.  That's why NATO isn't doing too much of anything except sending support.

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Always? They had a pro Putin president in 2014 till we ran him out. Guess what? No war way back then. He left and Putin made his move. 

Always = since 2014.

OK, so your solution is as long as we appease Putin by giving him puppet states, then all is good?

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5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I believe the reason for not allowing entry was to avoid taunting Putin.  Putin wanted Ukraine to at least be a puppet to Russia, but they bounced his puppet and were going down the road toward a free society, he cannot allow that on his door step.

It was smart of the EU to not allow them entry, it was dumb for Ukraine to ask.  The mart move would be to accept that you are the "tweener" between two rather large powers. And balance your place between them.

Validity to this.

[Gepetto 1,374]

6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s not about him justifying it to you or anyone else. It’s about him justifying it to himself. When the nut job with nukes tells you what he’s going to do if in his mind if you Fock with him, listen. The west didn’t. Acting surprised that the bad guy did bad things is silly. But we’re beyond all that.  The question is now, as you see kids getting harmed and killed, what are you prepared to do? 

I already said in this thread we should declare a no fly zone above Ukraine and enforce it.  I don't make those decisions.  That's up to the old senile guy that Democrats elected and for all Congressman, Senators, other nations to pressure him to do, if they agree with me that is.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They wanted to join NATO. Everyone knows this. Stop with the nonsense.  

The European Union and NATO are not the same thing. Juneteenth is not in December.

Ukraine applied yesterday to join the European Union, which focuses on politics and economics.

It has not applied to join NATO, which focuses on military.

A big reason Putin invaded Ukraine is to keep it from becoming a NATO nation.

NATO for the first time in history is sending troops to bordering countries.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The European Union and NATO are not the same thing. Juneteenth is not in December.

Ukraine applied yesterday to join the European Union, which focuses on politics and economics.

It has not applied to join NATO, which focuses on military.

A big reason Putin invaded Ukraine is to keep it from becoming a NATO nation.

NATO for the first time in history is sending troops to bordering countries.

 

No shite. I’m the one who said it was about NATO and not the EU. You pompous fool. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

16 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I believe the reason for not allowing entry was to avoid taunting Putin.  Putin wanted Ukraine to at least be a puppet to Russia, but they bounced his puppet and were going down the road toward a free society, he cannot allow that on his door step.

It was smart of the EU to not allow them entry, it was dumb for Ukraine to ask.  The mart move would be to accept that you are the "tweener" between two rather large powers. And balance your place between them.

When you span the entire globe for a country like Ukraine, you won't find another.  Independent, outside major world conglomerations, filled with natural resources, and civilized.  That is why it is so valuable for the elites.  If they lost it to the EU, there would be no place to go.  Sorry, I just won't buy the Putin angle that is being pushed by everyone who wants us to ignore anything else.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

During the Cold War, after 1963, Russia stayed on its side of the world and we stayed on ours for the most part.  Once the Cold War ended we started Fockin around everywhere. We destabilized nearly everyplace we went. Globalism has been a complete failure. Deal with it. We messed with Ukraine, ran his guy out and out our guy in. And now it’s destabilized. Now the question is what do we do next? If you’re concerned about human lives then there is only one way to stop it. Who’s in? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

12 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I already said in this thread we should declare a no fly zone above Ukraine and enforce it.  I don't make those decisions.  That's up to the old senile guy that Democrats elected and for all Congressman, Senators, other nations to pressure him to do, if they agree with me that is.

Declaring a no fly zone means shooting at Russians if they fly.  You ready for that? 

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9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No shite. I’m the one who said it was about NATO and not the EU. You pompous fool. 

It's both you retard.