Ukraine - Doomsday

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

5 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

The general theory on how this is supposed to play out in the scenario i heard was:

1. Putin invades Ukraine
2. NATO goes ham on trying to arm Ukraine and defend poland, germany etc. making big rough talk.
3. Putin wins and takes Ukraine anyway.
4. NATO loses face (on purpose).  Lawmakers begin to seriously question what NATO is good for.  
5. Now they dismantle NATO and replace it with a modern agreement with a big focus on asia for the purposes of cutting deals with China more than Russia.  

Its a lot easier to do that if NATO proves to be a joke and cant stop Putin taking Ukraine.

 

This is mostly rumor although the deals getting cancelled in recent years make it plausible.

You sound like a moron. The voices in your head telling you things are not a source. 

[Cdub100 3,936]

The western powers really screwed up here. The world economy the west controlled is now fractured. There will be two competing economies. On one side we have the old system run on swift which is basically like a fax machine with 1/3 of the world population. On the other will be a new cryptosystem with Russia, China (digital yan already exists), and India (plans to have their digital CBDC this year) at the head with 2/3 of the world population.

 

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50 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

The western powers really screwed up here. The world economy the west controlled is now fractured. There will be two competing economies. On one side we have the old system run on swift which is basically like a fax machine with 1/3 of the world population. On the other will be a new cryptosystem with Russia, China (digital yan already exists), and India (plans to have their digital CBDC this year) at the head with 2/3 of the world population.

 

Russia will never invade Ukraine.  It's a Biden smokescreen.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

So I guess Russia is presenting evidence of bio labs in Ukraine to the UN today. Should be interesting. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,365]

32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So I guess Russia is presenting evidence of bio labs in Ukraine to the UN today. Should be interesting. 

factchecked though I was told

weird they would have a UN council over it when USA today said it was a lie

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,365]

there is no propaganda from the Ukrainian side I am sure

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/11/tik-tok-ukraine-white-house/

these seem like very important people to brief on the situation

the entire war is a information war

 

 

[Baker Boy 1,704]

1 hour ago, vomit said:

Russia will never invade Ukraine.  It's a Biden smokescreen.

 Hank

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

We can’t even get India on our side in this. Fockin India? What don’t we do for them? India has been in a “skirmish”, with bullets, with China for a few years now. And they’re aligned on this? Heck of a job, Joe. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So I guess Russia is presenting evidence of bio labs in Ukraine to the UN today. Should be interesting. 

Right out of the Putin playbook. He accuses what he plans on doing himself.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/russia-ukraine/?id=83390885#83392856

[Utilit99 4,099]

creepy joe should send kameltoe to deal with Putin on all this. Putin may just promise to quit the war if the US would just take her back. 

[RLLD 4,256]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We can’t even get India on our side in this. Fockin India? What don’t we do for them? India has been in a “skirmish”, with bullets, with China for a few years now. And they’re aligned on this? Heck of a job, Joe. 

I would not mind seeing India and China have a tussle, kill of some of both those focking peoples

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

29 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I would not mind seeing India and China have a tussle, kill of some of both those focking peoples

Both have nukes. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

https://sports.yahoo.com/fox-newss-jennifer-griffin-contradicts-tucker-carlsons-coverage-russian-conspiracy-083557670.html

 

Even Fox is going b******* on Tucker's propaganda. Their own analysts for Pete's sake. And you guys still drink it up with a spoon.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

3 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/fox-newss-jennifer-griffin-contradicts-tucker-carlsons-coverage-russian-conspiracy-083557670.html

 

Even Fox is going b******* on Tucker's propaganda. Their own analysts for Pete's sake. And you guys still drink it up with a spoon.

2005? 

[Baker Boy 1,704]

8 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/fox-newss-jennifer-griffin-contradicts-tucker-carlsons-coverage-russian-conspiracy-083557670.html

 

Even Fox is going b******* on Tucker's propaganda. Their own analysts for Pete's sake. And you guys still drink it up with a spoon.

Wow, to different options on the same network, you don’t see that anymore.

[Cdub100 3,936]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

Wow, to different options on the same network, you don’t see that anymore.

Other than tucker faux news is liberal garbage with a sprinkle of conservative view points.

[Cdub100 3,936]

3 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

creepy joe should send kameltoe deal with Putin on all this. Putin may just promise to quit the war if the US would just take her back. 

Cackling intensifies!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

2005? 

Crickets. 

[fandandy 3,313]

6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We can’t even get India on our side in this. Fockin India? What don’t we do for them? India has been in a “skirmish”, with bullets, with China for a few years now. And they’re aligned on this? Heck of a job, Joe. 

India ain't stoopod.  They see how this is playing out.  Not just this but the world in general.  And not just now.  I have said this numerous times.  The US is still living in the 1800s.  It's choosing teams on the playground in 2022 and we pick Israel and the UK.

Hmmm.  OK....

[fandandy 3,313]

We are governed by absolute fools.

[fandandy 3,313]

And before anyone says it, I understand that Isreal was not a nation in the 1800s.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

25 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Crickets. 

Story was from this month. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

Story was from this month. 

Yeah, I know. What I’d like to know why it’s taken so long? 17 years to clear up these labs, like they claim they have been doing? Forgive me for being skeptical. And considering the US government has been lying to me my whole life about almost everything, I’ll wait for some more info before I accept them at their word. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

Looking at it, I'm not sure how Belarus is much different than Laos. We know the enemy is launching atacks from Belarus. We've vowed not to commit troops to Ukraine. Fine. Butyou're e going to launch operations from Belarus, why are we not going to town on those m************? Not a single f****** plane should ever be able to leave Belarus air space. We never admitted being in Laos. But it sure as F made a difference.

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

50 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah, I know. What I’d like to know why it’s taken so long? 17 years to clear up these labs, like they claim they have been doing? Forgive me for being skeptical. And considering the US government has been lying to me my whole life about almost everything, I’ll wait for some more info before I accept them at their word. 

This will be something you'll be clinging to 20 years from now while a planet-killing asteroid is about to hit Earth. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

51 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah, I know. What I’d like to know why it’s taken so long? 17 years to clear up these labs, like they claim they have been doing? Forgive me for being skeptical. And considering the US government has been lying to me my whole life about almost everything, I’ll wait for some more info before I accept them at their word. 

Maybe research American superfund sites. 

Instead of sucking Tucckers propaganda.

Jeesus Krist. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

Maybe research American superfund sites. 

Instead of sucking Tucckers propaganda.

Jeesus Krist. 

That and whatever whacko right-wing-generated conspiracy theory emerges. 

[Gladiators 1,995]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

That and whatever whacko right-wing-generated conspiracy theory emerges. 

Muh Russia?

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

5 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Muh Russia?

He's fixated on the Uker lab thing, so it would be muh Uker lab. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

42 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Maybe research American superfund sites. 

Instead of sucking Tucckers propaganda.

Jeesus Krist. 

Have you ever once intelligently countered any of what Carlson has said? 

Or is it just fun for you to make shlt up? 

Just like @Pimpadeaux

Focking weak minded fools that can't hold their own. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

51 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Maybe research American superfund sites. 

Instead of sucking Tucckers propaganda.

Jeesus Krist. 

Actually he might be a fan of Rachel Maddow. He considers her a journalist. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

8 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Have you ever once intelligently countered any of what Carlson has said? 

Or is it just fun for you to make shlt up? 

Just like @Pimpadeaux

Focking weak minded fools that can't hold their own. 

You understand he has been countered by even people on his own network? Jesus Christ. Keep living in your little bubble.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

10 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Have you ever once intelligently countered any of what Carlson has said? 

Or is it just fun for you to make shlt up? 

Just like @Pimpadeaux

Focking weak minded fools that can't hold their own. 

The mentally retarded could counter Tucker and make even quicker work of you.

[Utilit99 4,099]

22 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The mentally retarded could counter Tucker and make even quicker work of you.

But you have never been able to successfully do so. 

What's below mentally retarded? Whatever that is, is where you sit on the scale I guess. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The mentally retarded could counter Tucker and make even quicker work of you.

I have to disagree with you....there is a lot of evidence utilit99 is mentally retarded so he could probably counter Tucker. 

[Gepetto 1,374]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-ukraine-mig-29-fiasco-gets-worse-joe-biden-vladimir-putin-poland-ukraine-russia-nato-11646953225

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2022/03/10/biden-blames-putin-for-inflation-gop-blames-biden-00016131

“The transfer might have been possible if the deal was kept under wraps, but that became impossible after JOSEP BORRELL, the EU’s foreign affairs and security policy chief, declared unequivocally to reporters on Feb. 27 that the bloc would provide Ukraine with fighter jets. The announcement came as a shock to many, U.S. and European officials said, including aides in Eastern European capitals who hoped to keep the transfer quiet.

[Utilit99 4,099]

12 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I have to disagree with you....there is a lot of evidence utilit99 is mentally retarded so he could probably counter Tucker. 

Says a second grade babysitter hack that doesn't even know what his union spends his money on. 

That's what failing out of college gets you in life. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

15 hours ago, wiffleball said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/fox-newss-jennifer-griffin-contradicts-tucker-carlsons-coverage-russian-conspiracy-083557670.html

 

Even Fox is going b******* on Tucker's propaganda. Their own analysts for Pete's sake. And you guys still drink it up with a spoon.

Really? So we were able to take down all these bio labs in other former Soviet satellites, but the ones in Ukraine are taking 17 years? And all she said is the bio labs aren’t under US “control” not that they don’t exist. So the out for the US is they don’t control them. Ok. But they do exist, and they do contain biological weapons, most likely. Calling them “defensive” doesn’t cut it. Why would Nuland be so concerned about former Soviet  biological weapons falling into the hands of the Russians ? You would think they have that old technology themselves. Afraid they will use them as a false flag? Maybe. But that only comes into play if they do use them as a false flag. What if they don’t ? What if they just say Ukraine had biological weapons that they developed? The timeline is important here. Why is it taking so long to dismantle the ones in Ukraine, but not in the other places? She pointed out we dismantled the one in Uzbekistan in 2001. 21 years ago. There could be a reason. I’m open to it. But what is it? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

11 hours ago, wiffleball said:

You understand he has been countered by even people on his own network? Jesus Christ. Keep living in your little bubble.

I didn't read your yahoo article but if someone has an opposing opinion on the same network this is what I'm guessing your take is.

So you think networks should demand their TV personalities to do and say what the station tells them to do and say like CNN does? Have one person at the top tell everyone who is under him what exactly to say and DO NOT say another thing?  

Pitch the company narrative rather than having free thinkers that bring up opposing opinions at times?  

You would really hate one of FOX's radio shows where they have 3 or 4 people on the show. One of the guys is pretty liberal and they have opposing opinions on a lot of different subjects.  

And when did you last make a case and counter what Carlson says vs. the name calling?  

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

10 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

Says a second grade babysitter hack that doesn't even know what his union spends his money on. 

That's what failing out of college gets you in life. 

Swing and a miss....

 

Oh...two swings and misses in the same post.