Failure of the public education system

[Utilit99 4,099]

13 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm in your head because of the passive aggressive way you have to refer to me instead of just making your stupid points.

I made a comment that there is a point where parent concern can cross over into something else. You wanted an example and I gave you one. You decided that wasn't enough and was absurd. Even though there are pushbacks against Holocaust novels that may or may not be the reason it is happening right now. I don't fear sh!t from parents. My lessons are all already posted through my school. I live in a state where they are about to make it so everything a teacher does needs to be posted online. I ain't got nothing to hide. I don't fear additional transparency, I foresee misguided transparency. I foresee parents not questioning why we are doing things but rather trying to dictate how we do things. 

I taught in a cyber school for years where I videotaped lessons. I am coming off 2 years where I was doing lessons virtually while kids sat at home with parents within earshot. I welcome people listening in because I've got nothing to hide and there is absolutely nothing I do in the classroom that is questionable in any real way. 

But you have decided you know what is happening even though you are just parroting what others say. You have bought into this idea that the right wants to make teachers on par with how they view the left treat cops. I'd bet you have problems with cops being monitored and under scrutiny like they are. But yet- you think I'm ridiculous for thinking people might go overboard.

You can p-i-s-s off with your fake William Wallace BS pretending like you give a damn about transparency in teaching or parental concern and choice. 

Babysitter. And not even good at it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

That's true with just about everything in life.

Not when it comes to this stuff.Some idiots are told to go scratch, like Holocaust deniers. Don’t act like the schools can’t say no. They do it all the time. 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

57 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

I agree with the below. The problem is a minority of the people are the loudest.

 

That is all well and good and I know in Hardcore's pollyanna view you just tell those people tough and they go away. Problem is- they don't. And we just spent 2 years of schooling encouraging parents to yell louder and louder to get their way and we just had a bunch of school boards across the country flip because parents weren't getting their way so they mobilized against it. 

Most school board members are spineless and they will kowtow to the loud minority because it causes them the least amount of grief. This happens with just about every issue as it appears in schools. 

Give people an inch and they take a mile. 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Not when it comes to this stuff.Some idiots are told to go scratch, like Holocaust deniers. Don’t act like the schools can’t say no. They do it all the time. 

Such a Pollyannaish way of thinking. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

That is all well and good and I know in Hardcore's pollyanna view you just tell those people tough and they go away. Problem is- they don't. And we just spent 2 years of schooling encouraging parents to yell louder and louder to get their way and we just had a bunch of school boards across the country flip because parents weren't getting their way so they mobilized against it. 

Most school board members are spineless and they will kowtow to the loud minority because it causes them the least amount of grief. This happens with just about every issue as it appears in schools. 

Give people an inch and they take a mile. 

Right. I’m sure there would be a very long line to speak at the school board meeting by parents who were against remote learning on a snow day. The line would go out the door. Just stop it man. Funny last year when we only had one snow day left they started remote learning on snow days. What happened? 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Right. I’m sure there would be a very long line to speak at the school board meeting by parents who were against remote learning on a snow day. The line would go out the door. Just stop it man. Funny last year when we only had one snow day left they started remote learning on snow days. What happened? 

You are so out of touch with anything going on in schools it is bizarre. And then you think your opinion is so valid.

I can tell you last year in the district I work in they called a remote learning day for snow and parents lit up the school district page to the point the school had to change it to a snow day because "we aren't allowing kids to be kids."

And the discussion here was about parents going for year round schooling with just a 2 week break here and there. I provided an example of a time where parents went nuts about something completely innocuous. Why did that become the thing for you? I think you and fireballer don't understand how examples work. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are so out of touch with anything going on in schools it is bizarre. And then you think your opinion is so valid.

I can tell you last year in the district I work in they called a remote learning day for snow and parents lit up the school district page to the point the school had to change it to a snow day because "we aren't allowing kids to be kids."

And the discussion here was about parents going for year round schooling with just a 2 week break here and there. I provided an example of a time where parents went nuts about something completely innocuous. Why did that become the thing for you? I think you and fireballer don't understand how examples work. 

I’m out of touch? That would be the case if I said no parents complained. I didn’t say that, I acknowledge that some did. You want to sell it that it’s a large pct.  It’s not. Again I ask, how come when we were down to one snow day, they all of a sudden went remote on the next two snow days? What changed? 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m out of touch? That would be the case if I said no parents complained. I didn’t say that, I acknowledge that some did. You want to sell it that it’s a large pct.  It’s not. Again I ask, how come when we were down to one snow day, they all of a sudden went remote on the next two snow days? What changed? 

I literally never said it was a large percentage. In fact, I said numerous times it was a loud minority. And the school boards and schools will bow to that loud minority- they've spent the past 18-24 months doing it.

You are in one school district. I am in one, and tied to many more through the network of teachers I've made over the years. The reality is that loud minority is more emboldened now than they were in February 2020. 

And again- it's not about snow days- it was a minor example of a similar type scenario. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

I literally never said it was a large percentage. In fact, I said numerous times it was a loud minority. And the school boards and schools will bow to that loud minority- they've spent the past 18-24 months doing it.

You are in one school district. I am in one, and tied to many more through the network of teachers I've made over the years. The reality is that loud minority is more emboldened now than they were in February 2020. 

And again- it's not about snow days- it was a minor example of a similar type scenario. 

babysitting 101. Do what you are told to do by your masters. -sean mooney

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

I literally never said it was a large percentage. In fact, I said numerous times it was a loud minority. And the school boards and schools will bow to that loud minority- they've spent the past 18-24 months doing it.

You are in one school district. I am in one, and tied to many more through the network of teachers I've made over the years. The reality is that loud minority is more emboldened now than they were in February 2020. 

And again- it's not about snow days- it was a minor example of a similar type scenario. 

Once again, I pointed out that school boards and administrators say no all the time. Don’t act like they can’t. Just say they won’t. Different discussion. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

babysitting 101. Do what you are told to do by your masters. -sean mooney

Enough man. You don’t have kids, teachers do a lot more than babysit. You know this. 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Once again, I pointed out that school boards and administrators say no all the time. Don’t act like they can’t. Just say they won’t. Different discussion. 

You really like these merry-go-round arguments where you just ignore what you want and try to argue things that were never said. 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Enough man. You don’t have kids, teachers do a lot more than babysit. You know this. 

Nothing he says matters in any way to me. You at least try to add something to a discussion even if I rarely ever agree with you. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

You really like these merry-go-round arguments where you just ignore what you want and try to argue things that were never said. 

Your claim is that pita parents complain about doing remote learning on snow days, and that is the reason it’s not done. I say that’s not a good enough reason, they should be told no, that it happens all the time. Where am I going around in a circle? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Enough man. You don’t have kids, teachers do a lot more than babysit. You know this. 

I have a kid I raised, and she is now out on her own in her mid 20s and doing well in life. She's well adjusted and happy in life. Just like her dad. 

The hardest thing about grade school is not teaching the kids, it's babysitting them. Which I never said was easy. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

7 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

I have a kid I raised, and she is now out on her own in her mid 20s and doing well in life. She's well adjusted and happy in life. Just like her dad. 

The hardest thing about grade school is not teaching the kids, it's babysitting them. Which I never said was easy. 

You can do better than that obvious, basic, inaccurate dig. Think a teacher hasn’t heard it a thousand times? I don’t think it bothers him. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You can do better than that obvious, basic, inaccurate dig. Think a teacher hasn’t heard it a thousand times? I don’t think it bothers him. 

I tell the truth. I don't seek to enrage or to compliment unless I state it as such specifically.

mooney is a moron though. 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

28 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Your claim is that pita parents complain about doing remote learning on snow days, and that is the reason it’s not done. I say that’s not a good enough reason, they should be told no, that it happens all the time. Where am I going around in a circle? 

Because that was not the context of what I was saying. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

This is just creepy as fuk.  These people feel entitled to our kids.

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

This is just creepy as fuk.  These people feel entitled to our kids.

 

Is this an ad for homeschooling? It's very persuasive. 

[Voltaire 5,282]

27 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

This is just creepy as fuk.  These people feel entitled to our kids.

 

They themselves don't breed, the leftoid birthrate is in the toilet. Which is good, it may save humanity. I fully support and encourage their decision to exit the gene pool. Unfortunately, they've hit on an alternative way to procreate: by body-snatching other people's children.  Sorry zer, I'm on to you and my job as a parent necessitates that I keep my kids as far away from you as possible.

[Fireballer 2,641]

On 2/15/2022 at 10:49 PM, Fireballer said:

I wanted to quit clogging up the Covid thread and others with posts that deserve their own attention.  Post all things in public education that is making public schools, in general, to spiral down the toilet. I'm gonna start with this clown that I posted about earlier.  He's obviously a groomer and destroys every piece of teacher/parent/student trust.  Fuk this POS.

 

Wow.  Same dude. 

There's no way this is happening in a public school.  It just can't be. Binders and tucking underwear?  There's just no fuking way.

  

 

[RLLD 4,201]

I have not heard of this "transition room" being present locally.  Perhaps its isolated to really hard core leftist areas.

Were it to arise, and my kids were potentially exposed to it, the teachers/school and i would have a serious focking problem.......

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

On 2/20/2022 at 7:44 PM, Fireballer said:

This is just creepy as fuk.  These people feel entitled to our kids.

 

Worried about kids health while their union fights to keep them in masks. GFY. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

Yea, yes, I hate these people more than Putin and consider them the bigger threat. GFY. 

[Voltaire 5,282]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yea, yes, I hate these people more than Putin and consider them the bigger threat. GFY. 

Putin is a punch in the nose while BLM is pancreatic cancer.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

28 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Putin is a punch in the nose while BLM is pancreatic cancer.

Exactly. They can play games all over the world if they want. What goes in here is more important. The US can provide its own energy and food. The rest is replaceable and can be made here except for a few things, mostly luxuries. It’s time the American people wake up and realize that. Especially if they plan on letting everyone in. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

31 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Putin is a punch in the nose while BLM is pancreatic cancer.

If you don't think that Putin pounced after seeing Biden kowtow to BLM and sign an EO to allow men in women's sports on his first day in office, you're blind or an idiot. He's laughing all the way to Kyev.  Social justice has crippled us.

[Fireballer 2,641]

"It is our job, as teachers, to field those questions".

Uhhh...no.  Teach, you fuktard.  That's all.  Fukin teach music.

 

[RLLD 4,201]

Locally the high schools have a group-think perception about them, they are all stereotyped in some way.  Much of it is true, but not to the extent people believe.

I love it when some smug parent is speaking in a group setting about how their kid went to school X and is now at whatever school,  maybe Penn St or VaTech and is doing it to brag a little, which is fine but is implying that because they went to high school x they are smarter/better.  Then I wait, and eventually they just can't help themselves because they want to bring the point home, so they ask me "so where did your kids go?" and I reply they went to school y, and are at the Naval Academy......boom, then its just nice and quiet....  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

26 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

"It is our job, as teachers, to field those questions".

Uhhh...no.  Teach, you fuktard.  That's all.  Fukin teach music.

 

“Be seen”. Automatic cause for curb stomp. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

 

[Fireballer 2,641]

 

[Fireballer 2,641]

What exactly is a "black parallel school board"?  Can we adopt separate but equal again?

 

[Fireballer 2,641]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,282]

Anyone seen Mooney? 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

Oh I'm here.....enjoying you guys posting a bunch of stuff out of context or saying you want to "curb stomp" people like the Internet tough guys you are. 

[Cloaca du jour 2,148]

On 2/17/2022 at 10:15 AM, Sean Mooney said:

That is all well and good and I know in Hardcore's pollyanna view you just tell those people tough and they go away. Problem is- they don't. And we just spent 2 years of schooling encouraging parents to yell louder and louder to get their way and we just had a bunch of school boards across the country flip because parents weren't getting their way so they mobilized against it. 

Most school board members are spineless and they will kowtow to the loud minority because it causes them the least amount of grief. This happens with just about every issue as it appears in schools. 

Give people an inch and they take a mile. 

Spot on

[Fireballer 2,641]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Oh I'm here.....enjoying you guys posting a bunch of stuff out of context or saying you want to "curb stomp" people like the Internet tough guys you are. 

Out of context...LMAO.