vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 This happened close to me, it's a rich area with lots of racism. 2 kids get in a fight, black kid gets cuffed, white kid goes free. Black kid detained for 30 mins and banned from the mall for 3 years because the cop broke a table while jumping on him. Even the white kid is on record as being confused and upset that he didn't get detained as well. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,237 Posted February 16, 2022 So if I locate an instance where this did not happen, I then refute the notion of a systemic issue? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,992 Posted February 16, 2022 I'm amazed how quickly the police responded. 15 seconds! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, RLLD said: So if I locate an instance where this did not happen, I then refute the notion of a systemic issue? No that's not how this works. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gladiators said: I'm amazed how quickly the police responded. 15 seconds! I frequently see police in this mall, and supposedly there was a tip that there was going to be trouble that night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted February 16, 2022 Yes, it’s irrefutable. Based on a thirty second tweet. Off with their heads! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted February 16, 2022 Did the white kid really go free? The cops took care to detain the black kid first. The video recorder claims its racial motivated and then stops filming as the cop goes to detain the white kid. Didn't want to show that part. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted February 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yes, it’s irrefutable. Based on a thirty second tweet. Off with their heads! Lol. This vomit guy is hilarious. No context. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Did the white kid really go free? The cops took care to detain the black kid first. The video recorder claims its racial motivated and then stops filming as the cop goes to detain the white kid. Didn't want to show that part. Well first of all, does it really matter? They took the white kid off the black, so both cops could kneel on the back of the black while the white just sat there. He could have run away, shot them, anything. Why did they do this if not racism? But, here is the white kid saying he went free “I knew it was wrong, and I knew there was gonna be problems when they did that,” 15-year-old Joey, who was involved in the fight, said. “They didn’t go for me.” Tuesday night, he told PIX11 News — with his mother’s permission — that he couldn’t believe he wasn’t also placed in cuffs. “I didn’t understand why,” the teen said. “I even offered to get handcuffed as well.” https://pix11.com/news/local-news/new-jersey/i-didnt-understand-response-to-nj-mall-scuffle-ignites-critique-of-policing/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,992 Posted February 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Lol. This vomit guy is hilarious. No context. It happened close to him though, so whatever he says must be true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Lol. This vomit guy is hilarious. No context. What context do you need? You see two kids fighting, you let the white one go and cuff the black one. In what context is this right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, Gladiators said: It happened close to him though, so whatever he says must be true. ITS ON VIDEO. Did I fake the video? Man you focking racists are simply unbelievable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, vomit said: What context do you need? You see two kids fighting, you let the white one go and cuff the black one. In what context is this right? Is the black kid a repeat offender who starts trouble at this mall a lot and they just got sick of it? 30 second clip = irrefutable to you. I am not saying there is any more context to be had. Cops jump on black kid. = look at hoe racist all cops are! Just look at the comments under the tweet. Race baiting 101. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,992 Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, vomit said: ITS ON VIDEO. Did I fake the video? Man you focking racists are simply unbelievable. We have all of the information based on that clip? What if someone tipped the police off about the fight and said the black kid was bringing a gun? What if the police thought the phone that the black kid was holding was a weapon, so they decided to subdue him first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted February 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, vomit said: Man you focking racists are simply unbelievable. And there it is! Hahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Gladiators said: We have all of the information based on that clip? What if someone tipped the police off about the fight and said the black kid was bringing a gun? What if the police thought the phone that the black kid was holding was a weapon, so they decided to subdue him first? What if the white kid had a gun? What if the white kid already shot or stabbed the black kid and was left to go free? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: And there it is! Hahahaha Any person that can't admit this if focked up is racist, no other way to put it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted February 16, 2022 I have questions before I would go with "irrefutable", and I would not color all police with the broad brush from this singular incident, an incident where we only have a brief view of the whole. What if, for instance, the cops had previous contact with the black youth? Perhaps within the last week he was trespassed from the mall for fighting and carrying a weapon. Were that speculation actually the case I would have a problem with your narrative. I have, however, no problem with your suspicions. I share them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, vomit said: Any person that can't admit this if focked up is racist, no other way to put it. Lol. Wanting more context = racist Well if that isn't exactly what is wrong with the country these days. Hahaha You are a scumbag. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said: I have questions before I would go with "irrefutable", and I would not color all police with the broad brush from this singular incident, an incident where we only have a brief view of the whole. What if, for instance, the cops had previous contact with the black youth? Perhaps within the last week he was trespassed from the mall for fighting and carrying a weapon. Were that speculation actually the case I would have a problem with your narrative. I have, however, no problem with your suspicions. I share them. Well we know that this is not the case. The black kid was defending his friend from the white bully. He was not armed and had no previous history of causing any trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted February 16, 2022 Don't take a second to make sure to get it right. Just scream RACIST. Lebron James putting a picture up of the cop on his twitter and screaming racist... who heroically shot the black girl who was trying to stab a smaller black girl comes to mind. Wait for nothing just scream racist! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: Lol. Wanting more context = racist Well if that isn't exactly what is wrong with the country these days. Hahaha You are a scumbag. Don't hide behind "Want more context" because as long as something fits your narrative you don't give a damn about context. With everything we know about this, including the video, those cops are racist. You want to hold out for further evidence before calling it out is bullsh!t, and exactly what is wrong with society today. You're too scared to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,992 Posted February 16, 2022 I watched the video again. When the police get there, it looks like the white kid is trying to hold the black kid down and the black kid is still throwing punches from the ground. If that's all the police saw, perhaps they didn't see the white kid as a threat. In addition, when the lady pulls the white kid up, he calmly sat down while the other officer was cuffing the black kid. Looks like the lady went to help with that and then went back to handle the white kid. Racism!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: Don't take a second to make sure to get it right. Just scream RACIST. Lebron James putting a picture up of the cop on his twitter and screaming racist... who heroically shot the black girl who was trying to stab a smaller black girl comes to mind. Wait for nothing just scream racist! What is there to get right? I provided the clip and the accounts from both parties involved. You're still holding out hope that the black kid was armed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, vomit said: Don't hide behind "Want more context" because as long as something fits your narrative you don't give a damn about context. With everything we know about this, including the video, those cops are racist. You want to hold out for further evidence before calling it out is bullsh!t, and exactly what is wrong with society today. You're too scared to be honest. Maybe they are racist. Maybe they aren't. Not going to be called racist and shrink to your narrative for fear of being labeled racist. Go kick rocks goofball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted February 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, vomit said: Any person that can't admit this if focked up is racist, no other way to put it. It could be racist. But a thirty second clip may be evidence, but it’s not proof. You think it is, which says it all about you. You want it to be racist, so it is. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, vomit said: What is there to get right? I provided the clip and the accounts from both parties involved. You're still holding out hope that the black kid was armed? I never said anything about a gun. Read goofball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted February 16, 2022 The video does look bad but I side with wanting more context. I'm not making any judgements on these cops without hearing more details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted February 16, 2022 Vomit spastic like a teen girl. Screech! Screech! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted February 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, vomit said: Well we know that this is not the case. The black kid was defending his friend from the white bully. He was not armed and had no previous history of causing any trouble. Was that information in the original story? If so I missed it. Perhaps it is known in that vicinity. Perhaps more has come out. Perhaps it was well down in the comments to the article. I did not read those. I will say that from the bit of video shown it did appear to me that the youth in the dark colored clothing was seeking confrontation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gladiators said: I watched the video again. When the police get there, it looks like the white kid is trying to hold the black kid down and the black kid is still throwing punches from the ground. If that's all the police saw, perhaps they didn't see the white kid as a threat. In addition, when the lady pulls the white kid up, he calmly sat down while the other officer was cuffing the black kid. Looks like the lady went to help with that and then went back to handle the white kid. Racism!!!!!!! She went to help the cop who had a kid on the ground and a knee in his back? The kid needed another knee in his back? This b!tch cop turned her back on a white kid that could have stabbed her so she could put another knee in the back of a subdued black kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,992 Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, vomit said: She went to help the cop who had a kid on the ground and a knee in his back? The kid needed another knee in his back? This b!tch cop turned her back on a white kid that could have stabbed her so she could put another knee in the back of a subdued black kid. Looked to me like she was helping the other cop cuff him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, vomit said: She went to help the cop who had a kid on the ground and a knee in his back? The kid needed another knee in his back? This b!tch cop turned her back on a white kid that could have stabbed her so she could put another knee in the back of a subdued black kid. You ever cuff someone? I’ll tell you something, it ain’t that easy. And two doing it is better and safer, for the cops and the detainee. Maybe you should get the training revised? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, Gladiators said: Looked to me like she was helping the other cop cuff him. Why does the black kid get cuffed and not the white kid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted February 16, 2022 Do we know if someone ran to the cops and told them a black kid was assaulting their white friend? Seems like that could lead to this result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, vomit said: Why does the black kid get cuffed and not the white kid? Those are the questions you should get answered before you make up your mind and post this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You ever cuff someone? I’ll tell you something, it ain’t that easy. And two doing it is better and safer. Maybe you should get the training revised. OK so there are two people that need to be cuffed, and two cops. You're seriously telling me that both cops should try and cuff one person first, and then after they are done, they should go cuff the other person, who is just sitting there waiting patiently for their turn to get cuffed? That's your story? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, vomit said: Why does the black kid get cuffed and not the white kid? Decisions, decisions. Sometimes you gotta make them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Do we know if someone ran to the cops and told them a black kid was assaulting their white friend? Seems like that could lead to this result. Given the fact of how fast this happened, it seems like a far stretch, but keep going, what other excuses do we have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, vomit said: OK so there are two people that need to be cuffed, and two cops. You're seriously telling me that both cops should try and cuff one person first, and then after they are done, they should go cuff the other person, who is just sitting there waiting patiently for their turn to get cuffed? That's your story? Someone has to get cuffed first, and I would go for the one that is resisting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites