Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 @Pimpadeaux Time to sign up dude. Get your war mongering ass to Taiwan since you wimped out on ukraine as you cheered it on daily. President Biden stated that the U.S. will send the military to defend Taiwan if the People's Republic of China were to invade the island nation. "Very quickly, you didn't want to get involved in the Ukraine conflict militarily for obvious reasons. Are you willing to get involved militarily to defend Taiwan if it comes to that?" a reporter asked the president during a news conference in Japan. "Yes," Biden replied. "You are?" the reporter pressed. "That's the commitment we made," the president said. https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-troops-defend-taiwan-china-invades-biden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,559 Posted May 23, 2022 Between this clear statement, seeing Russia's military get humiliated and handed their ass by Ukrainians using US military hardware, and knowing the US military is not presently involved in any other engagements, Xi Jin Ping is well advised to think twice and leave the status quo alone or else reap the storm. Biden* has gained some credibility after his Afghanistan debacle by handing Russia their ass via a proxy war. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Between this clear statement, seeing Russia's military get humiliated and handed their ass by Ukrainians using US military hardware, and knowing the US military is not presently involved in any other engagements, Xi Jin Ping is well advised to think twice and leave the status quo alone or else reap the storm. Biden* has gained some credibility after his Afghanistan debacle by handing Russia their ass via a proxy war. He has done no such thing. Russia got what they wanted, and then some. And Americans suffer because of the disgusting, outrageous spending by this government. Let's let in another 2 million+ illegals and spend another useless couple trillion dollars to gain political support from crooked liberal idiots and throw the rest at a war we shouldn't be involved if not except for trying to keep it from happening. If Trump were in office that war would have never happened. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,559 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Utilit99 said: He has done no such thing. Russia got what they want, and then some. And Americans suffer because of the disgusting, outrageous spending by this government. Let's let in another 2 million+ illegals and spend another useless couple trillion dollars to gain political support from liberal idiots. Russia is being handed their ass in a war they had no business beginning and also one they had no business losing. Ukraine has flipped the odds from being 50:1 underdogs to 2:1 favorites to beat off an aggressive invader. Russia keeps dialing back it's objectives, their morale is non-existent, they won't be able to hold their territory let alone ever conquer/govern it. They're going to get driven out. Invaders have no reason to be there, local residents do. As for Americans suffering, it's a fair point. Yes indirectly. One way in that they're footing the bill for the war. Another in whatever imports from that part of the world, crude oil, cooking oil and wheat and such, is off the market. Frankly, the cost comes cheaply in terms of US blood ... none gets spilt. The Ukrainians are providing all the manpower. This is the price you have to pay if you want to see democracy defeat totalitarianism and it's a small one compared to the price the Ukrainians are willing to pay. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Voltaire said: Russia is being handed their ass in a war they had no business beginning and also one they had no business losing. Ukraine has flipped the odds from being 50:1 underdogs to 2:1 favorites to beat off an aggressive invader. Russia keeps dialing back it's objectives, their morale is non-existent, they won't be able to hold their territory let alone ever conquer/govern it. They're going to get driven out. Invaders have no reason to be there, local residents do. As for Americans suffering, it's a fair point. Yes indirectly. One way in that they're footing the bill for the war. Another in whatever imports from that part of the world, crude oil, cooking oil and wheat and such, is off the market. Frankly, the cost comes cheaply in terms of US blood ... none gets spilt. The Ukrainians are providing all the manpower. This is the price you have to pay if you want to see democracy defeat totalitarianism and it's a small one compared to the price the Ukrainians are willing to pay. And yet Russia still got what they wanted all along. They just started getting greedy and those are the parts they are losing at. Every citizen in the US that even remotely pays attention to anything that's going on around them knew weeks ahead that there was a major threat to ukraine and biden came out and said he would not do anything until after a war started. That strategy killed thousands of people and millions more lost their homes and fled and you know the rest... All the blood shed is on biden for being a poosey for not even trying to be tough on Russia. Taiwan is next. This country can not afford to continue to fund war after war. This country is turning into a liberal totalitarian disaster. The democrats have plenty of ballots sitting on trucks and in warehouses to be delivered come November. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,559 Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: And yet Russia still got what they wanted all along. They just started getting greedy and those are the parts they are losing at. Every citizen in the US that even remotely pays attention to anything that's going on around them knew weeks ahead that there was a major threat to ukraine and biden came out and said he would not do anything until after a war started. That strategy killed thousands of people and millions more lost their homes and fled and you know the rest... All the blood shed is on biden for being a poosey for not even trying to be tough on Russia. Taiwan is next. This country can not afford to continue to fund war after war. This country is turning into a liberal totalitarian disaster. The democrats have plenty of ballots sitting on trucks and in warehouses to be delivered come November. Biden’s* lead up to war was a disaster. That’s on him, the people who rigged him into office, and the morons who voted for him. He exudes dementia and incompetence but they installed him anyway. Then Afghanistan looked pathetic. Russia isn’t getting what they want though, nor will they be able to hold it. They’ve focked themselves in every way possible. Hopefully China sees that and stops the saber rattling. My kids speak Chinese fluently and will need the military to pay for school like I did. I’m not particularly keen on seeing any conflict but you can’t just leave Taiwan isolated. As for left wing totalitarianism, let’s hope that cracks. There are signs it’s happening and concerned citizens acting as election observers will know what to look for and be better prepared for any shenanigans going forward. The Dems won’t be able to use Covid as an excuse to mass-mail ballots this time. Leftoid hold on Twitter is collapsing, states are passing ballot integrity laws, the bad guys went way further than they should have and pissed off the country that didn’t elect them last time.They are in retreat and performing rear guard maneuvers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Voltaire said: Biden’s* lead up to war was a disaster. That’s on him, the people who rigged him into office, and the morons who voted for him. He exudes dementia and incompetence but they installed him anyway. Then Afghanistan looked pathetic. Russia isn’t getting what they want though, nor will they be able to hold it. They’ve focked themselves in every way possible. Hopefully China sees that and stops the saber rattling. My kids speak Chinese fluently and will need the military to pay for school like I did. I’m not particularly keen on seeing any conflict but you can’t just leave Taiwan isolated. As for left wing totalitarianism, let’s hope that cracks. There are signs it’s happening and concerned citizens acting as election observers will know what to look for and be better prepared for any shenanigans going forward. The Dems won’t be able to use Covid as an excuse to mass-mail ballots this time. Leftoid hold on Twitter is collapsing, states are passing ballot integrity laws, the bad guys went way further than they should have and pissed off the country that didn’t elect them last time.They are in retreat and performing rear guard maneuvers. I think if it was a level playing field the conservatives would take over this country. I just think the liberals are way better at cheating than they are at governing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted May 23, 2022 On what has become a daily occurrence, we're told to basically ignore what the babbling idiot in charge says. This shlt is embarrassing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Reality said: On what has become a daily occurrence, we're told to basically ignore what the babbling idiot in charge says. This shlt is embarrassing. They have a good template going for these moments, now. "As the President said , <insert opposite of what President said here>" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted May 23, 2022 If China wants Tawain they can have it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Cdub100 said: If China wants Tawain they can have it. They don't need anyone's approval. While biden is president, they can have anything they want. Including the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Utilit99 said: They don't need anyone's approval. While biden is president, they can have anything they want. Including the US. It's clear they own most US politicians. I don't give two sh1ts about taiwan and nobody here should either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Brad GLuckman said: They have a good template going for these moments, now. "As the President said , <insert opposite of what President said here>" The template has been around for a while... just look at all the "fact checker" websites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted May 23, 2022 Meanwhile at our border, things are going great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Meanwhile at our border, things are going great. Biden gets an A+ for how he handled the border.....to the liberal voter..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 23, 2022 Why do we focking care? You know what would really hurt China? If everyone stopped buying sh!t from them on Amazon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, iam90sbaby said: Why do we focking care? Why do we send billions to ukraine when our own border is under siege? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Why do we focking care? You know what would really hurt China? If everyone stopped buying sh!t from them on Amazon. Something else that would really help is forcing companies to pay US wages to non-US employees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 'Tator Salad' White 82 Posted May 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Why do we focking care? You know what would really hurt China? If everyone stopped buying sh!t from them on Amazon. Or Apple products. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted May 23, 2022 Well I sure hope it doesn’t have to put to the test. China is a whole different beast from Russia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Well I sure hope it doesn’t have to put to the test. China is a whole different beast from Russia Correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted May 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: You know what would really hurt China? If everyone stopped buying sh!t from them on Amazon. You’re right but it may be a biting off your nose to spite your face scenario. China can’t fock with us too much because we buy all their sh1t and it would crater their economy to cut us off. That’s the whole idea of globalism — with interconnectedness comes security, because we can’t harm each other without harming ourselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted May 23, 2022 So now any time a “democracy” gets invaded we’re on the hook? Cool. Now all those democracies can not spend much money on their own defense. Like Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: You’re right but it may be a biting off your nose to spite your face scenario. China can’t fock with us too much because we buy all their sh1t and it would crater their economy to cut us off. That’s the whole idea of globalism — with interconnectedness comes security, because we can’t harm each other without harming ourselves. I would way more want to take the hit on cutting off China ahead of taking the hit for open borders, green new deal, and sending billions to Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So now any time a “democracy” gets invaded we’re on the hook? Cool. Now all those democracies can not spend much money on their own defense. Like Ukraine. biden is all in on war. Except for getting our troops out of Afghanistan safely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted May 23, 2022 So after we arm Iran, we will rescue Israel too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: I would way more want to take the hit on cutting off China ahead of taking the hit for open borders, green new deal, and sending billions to Ukraine. I’m not sure you understand my point. We cut off China, they have no reason not to destroy us. Seems like that could backfire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I’m not sure you understand my point. We cut off China, they have no reason not to destroy us. Seems like that could backfire China owns biden. And the US. No matter what way you look at it or what phase it's in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted May 23, 2022 Mr. Foreign policy doesn’t know our obligations. Fock every one of you that voted for this bumbling idiot. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Mr. Foreign policy doesn’t know our obligations. Fock every one of you that voted for this bumbling idiot. This is the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I’m not sure you understand my point. We cut off China, they have no reason not to destroy us. Seems like that could backfire If we cut off China, they will topple like the house of cards they are. Are you actually suggesting that China would start a war with us? Ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted May 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: If we cut off China, they will topple like the house of cards they are. Are you actually suggesting that China would start a war with us? Ridiculous. I’m suggesting they have a billion more people than we do and are rapidly becoming an economic powerhouse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: You’re right but it may be a biting off your nose to spite your face scenario. China can’t fock with us too much because we buy all their sh1t and it would crater their economy to cut us off. That’s the whole idea of globalism — with interconnectedness comes security, because we can’t harm each other without harming ourselves. We literally gave China superpower status in the pursuit of cheap consume goods. Cut them off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: We literally gave China superpower status in the pursuit of cheap consume goods. Cut them off. biden is in power here. China wins... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, Utilit99 said: biden is in power here. China wins... This has been going on for 20+ years it isn't Biden's fault, he's a terrible president but not everything falls on him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I’m suggesting they have a billion more people than we do and are rapidly becoming an economic powerhouse That billion people are dirt poor. They are the weight dragging China down. Come up with your own opinion on the purpose of the China virus. it isn't the last one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, iam90sbaby said: This has been going on for 20+ years it isn't Biden's fault, he's a terrible president but not everything falls on him We are probably talking about different things at this point. China is empowered now beyond what anyone here should want. Fock what we buy from them, just wait for them to get stronger as we regress though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: That billion people are dirt poor. They are the weight dragging China down. Come up with your own opinion on the purpose of the China virus. it isn't the last one. Seen their navy lately? They don't care about their poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,206 Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Cdub100 said: If China wants Tawain they can have it. We can't let China get TSMC, which makes a high percentage of the worlds advanced digital semiconductors. This isn't baby formula or chlorine tablets, it's serious shiot, access to energy level serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: We are probably talking about different things at this point. China is empowered now beyond what anyone here should want. Fock what we buy from them, just wait for them to get stronger as we regress though. The entire west propped up China's economy for decades. Now they are a superpower. It's our fault. But hey, at least we saved a couple bucks on household items. Oh and everyone has an iPhone. Winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites